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Which multi-effect to get...?

Reply from: majorbluegoose@msn,com
Date: 12 Mar 2007, 12:25
Which multi-effect to get...?

As a self confessed pedal junkie, I'm sad to say I have not
learned much multi-effects. However, I need one for
my PV Triple XXX.

Is the TC $1500 G-Force THAT much better than the $400 G-Major???
I prefer floor units for some reason, but its not that important.
What is the best floor unit?

Price isint really an issue as long as its not over $2000.
Good natural overdrives/distortions/fuzzes would be nice, but I
hear multi-effects have not had a good history of making good-sounding
overdriven tones..
"ruins your tube tone" they say... Is this true?

-I would appreciate everyones advice!!


Reply from: Julien BH
Date: 12 Mar 2007, 15:38
Re: Which multi-effect to get...?

On Mar 12, 7:25 am, majorbluego...@msn,com wrote:
> As a self confessed pedal junkie, I'm sad to say I have not
> learned much multi-effects. However, I need one for
> my PV Triple XXX.
>
> Is the TC $1500 G-Force THAT much better than the $400 G-Major???
> I prefer floor units for some reason, but its not that important.
> What is the best floor unit?
>
> Price isint really an issue as long as its not over $2000.
> Good natural overdrives/distortions/fuzzes would be nice, but I
> hear multi-effects have not had a good history of making good-sounding
> overdriven tones..
> "ruins your tube tone" they say... Is this true?
>
> -I would appreciate everyones advice!!

Please, don't get a multi-FX if you want distortion tones.
Get a multi-FX if you want to know what effects you WILL want.
>From what I see you want only overdrives, so get a good OD pedal.

ie:
Barber Electronics Direct Drive or Small Fry.
Basic BOSS OD, Dist.


Reply from: majorbluegoose@msn,com
Date: 12 Mar 2007, 18:52
Re: Which multi-effect to get...?

On Mar 12, 10:38 am, "Julien BH" <julie...@gmail,com > wrote:
> On Mar 12, 7:25 am, majorbluego...@msn,com wrote:
>
> > As a self confessed pedal junkie, I'm sad to say I have not
> > learned much multi-effects. However, I need one for
> > my PV Triple XXX.
>
> > Is the TC $1500 G-Force THAT much better than the $400 G-Major???
> > I prefer floor units for some reason, but its not that important.
> > What is the best floor unit?
>
> > Price isint really an issue as long as its not over $2000.
> > Good natural overdrives/distortions/fuzzes would be nice, but I
> > hear multi-effects have not had a good history of making good-sounding
> > overdriven tones..
> > "ruins your tube tone" they say... Is this true?
>
> > -I would appreciate everyones advice!!
>
> Please, don't get a multi-FX if you want distortion tones.
> Get a multi-FX if you want to know what effects you WILL want.
>
> >From what I see you want only overdrives, so get a good OD pedal.
>
> ie:
> Barber Electronics Direct Drive or Small Fry.
> Basic BOSS OD, Dist.

I'm actually looking for a Multi-FX with good
reverbs,choruses,delays,pitch shifters, tremolos........
It would just be nice to be able to get 3 nice dist./fuzz tones within
a preset or whatever, instead
of having to use 3 different pedals.
I actually have quite a few distortion boxes, I am mostly concerned
about the other effects that I
mentioned before... A realistic sounding pitch shifter is a MUST, as
is a pristine sparkly chorus....
saturated in reverbs and delays and stuff.

Hows the T.C. G-Major?, the G-Force?, Gt-8?, Lexicon stuff?
What brands are known for good (or at least use-able) distortions?




Reply from: MASTER
Date: 12 Mar 2007, 20:06
Re: Which multi-effect to get...?

> > > -I would appreciate everyones advice!!
>
>
Are you kidding me?
You want a multi effect under 2000$.
I never heard of a multi-effect that costs over 2000$...

These are around or under 500 bucks
Zoom G9.2tt
Digitech GNX4
VOX Tone Lab SE
Line 6 Pod XT Live
Boss GT8

And these all work. Famous musicians use them too. e.g. Marty Friedman...


I can only dream of spending one thousand bucks on my guitar effects.
Here is what I would do:

I would buy a nice pedalboard, like a gator or coffincase for 250$, filled
with a power splitter and fill it with:
DOD YJM308 - it's on blowout sale for 30$ at musician's friend, and it's
Malmsteen's main pedal... I'd buy two!
Digitech Whammy - 200$
MXR KFK1 eq - 140$
Boss delay - 100$
Boss CS3 - 100$
Boss noise surpressor - 85$
MXR EVH Phase 90 - 130$
MXR EVH-117 Flanger - 190$
Some pedal tuner for 50-70$
Dunlop ZW-45 - 130$
Radial Tonebone Classic Tube Drive 189$
Ibanez TS808 - 170$
Boss OD-20 - 150$

And never look at another guitar pedal again.
Ofcourse this is going all the way, but for your setup.
If it was my rig, I wouldn't buy the phaser and the flanger.
Not even the wah. I don't need it.

It's a well spent 1400$. All the types of distortion that I would ever need.
A tube screamer for everything
A boss for the heavy stuff
The YJM for arpeggios
And the tonebone for Gary Moore

Whammy, delay and sustaner to play around
Noise supressor and eq to keep it under control
and the tuner so I'm in tune. : )



Reply from: gregjgman@gmail,com
Date: 20 Mar 2007, 15:35
Re: Which multi-effect to get...?

On Mar 12, 3:06 pm, "MASTER" <hardpegg...@hotmail,com > wrote:
> > > > -I would appreciate everyones advice!!
>
> Are you kidding me?
> You want amultieffect under 2000$.
> I never heard of amulti-effect that costs over 2000$...
>
> These are around or under 500 bucks
> Zoom G9.2tt
> Digitech GNX4
> VOX Tone Lab SE
> Line 6 Pod XT Live
> Boss GT8
>
> And these all work. Famous musicians use them too. e.g. Marty Friedman...
>
> I can only dream of spending one thousand bucks on my guitareffects.
> Here is what I would do:
>
> I would buy a nicepedalboard, like a gator or coffincase for 250$, filled
> with a power splitter and fill it with:
> DOD YJM308 - it's on blowout sale for 30$ at musician's friend, and it's
> Malmsteen's main pedal... I'd buy two!
> Digitech Whammy - 200$
> MXR KFK1 eq - 140$
> Boss delay - 100$
> Boss CS3 - 100$
> Boss noise surpressor - 85$
> MXR EVH Phase 90 - 130$
> MXR EVH-117 Flanger - 190$
> Some pedal tuner for 50-70$
> Dunlop ZW-45 - 130$
> Radial Tonebone Classic Tube Drive 189$
> Ibanez TS808 - 170$
> Boss OD-20 - 150$


Why would you want to carry all that around and do the pedal dance?
For instance, with such a rig, if you wanted to go to a solo tone with
delay, compressor, noise supression and overdrive on, and turn off the
flanger you were using on a previous rhythm part, you'd have to step
on a ton of pedals!'

And this doesn't even get into perhaps using different delay or reverb
settings for different tones thus requiring you to also have to bend
down and twist knobs and remember settings on those pedalboards
(between songs since this can't happen during a song unless you have a
long rest for the guitar part).

As for expensive systems, the original poster was probably thinking of
something like the TC Electronics G-system.

I'm on a shoestring also, so I'm thinking about getting a Floor Pod
and just using it for live effects through my tube amp.


Reply from: Mogens V.
Date: 14 Mar 2007, 16:49
Re: Which multi-effect to get...?

majorbluegoose@msn,com wrote:
> On Mar 12, 10:38 am, "Julien BH" <julie...@gmail,com > wrote:
>
>>On Mar 12, 7:25 am, majorbluego...@msn,com wrote:
>>
>>
>>>As a self confessed pedal junkie, I'm sad to say I have not
>>>learned much multi-effects. However, I need one for
>>>my PV Triple XXX.
>>
>>>Is the TC $1500 G-Force THAT much better than the $400 G-Major???
>>>I prefer floor units for some reason, but its not that important.
>>>What is the best floor unit?
>>
>>>Price isint really an issue as long as its not over $2000.
>>>Good natural overdrives/distortions/fuzzes would be nice, but I
>>>hear multi-effects have not had a good history of making good-sounding
>>>overdriven tones..
>>>"ruins your tube tone" they say... Is this true?
>>
>>>-I would appreciate everyones advice!!
>>
>>Please, don't get a multi-FX if you want distortion tones.
>>Get a multi-FX if you want to know what effects you WILL want.
>>
>>>From what I see you want only overdrives, so get a good OD pedal.
>>
>>ie:
>>Barber Electronics Direct Drive or Small Fry.
>>Basic BOSS OD, Dist.
>
>
> I'm actually looking for a Multi-FX with good
> reverbs,choruses,delays,pitch shifters, tremolos........
> It would just be nice to be able to get 3 nice dist./fuzz tones within
> a preset or whatever, instead
> of having to use 3 different pedals.
> I actually have quite a few distortion boxes, I am mostly concerned
> about the other effects that I
> mentioned before... A realistic sounding pitch shifter is a MUST, as
> is a pristine sparkly chorus....
> saturated in reverbs and delays and stuff.
>
> Hows the T.C. G-Major?, the G-Force?, Gt-8?, Lexicon stuff?
> What brands are known for good (or at least use-able) distortions?

Can't comment on tone from various thingies. I just use my ADA MP-2 :)
However, since you'd like presets for _good_ distortion, the G-force
will be a good choice, as it has four programmable analog loops you can
use for your carefully chosen stomps.
Yes, it's expensive, but you'll save on additional switching gear, and
it can be configured as an all-floor thingy or the processor can be
lifted out for rack mounting later.

It's other effects probably won't disappoint you...
Download the manual and see what it'll do for you.

--
Kind regards,
Mogens V.





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