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Roccaforte Amps?
>Newsgroups: alt.guitar.amps
>From: roccafortea...@aol,com (RoccaforteAmps)
>Subject: Re: Roccaforte Amps?
>
><<KP wrote: > That's when I dropped the idea of buying >a Roccaforte amp like a
>
>
>hot potato
>
>
>> and just went for the real deal, a vintage Marshall, >for less than half the
>> cost. >>
>
>
>KP,
>until you own or play one
>of my amps shut your mouth.
>I dont build marshall clones,
>and for the idiot you just made
>yourself out to be:
>"this SL sucks, my TSL blows it away",
>" wont buy Dougs amp, it doesnt have reverb",
>"I bought the amp on everyones recomendation"
>(boo fucking hoo)
>you knew that the superlead you were
>buying didnt have reverb either,
>why did you buy it?
>If your TSL is so great why buy the SL anyway?
>Well?
>Go ahead and see if your Bass player
>tech can give you some much needed
>help in the guitar tone dept,
>but dont talk shit about my work
>until you've at least played it.
>Doug
>
Kent Pearson is an idiot if he thinks a TSL is anywhere near a
hand-wired Roccaforte.
But then again, we already knew he was an idiot!
Only wankers need reverb and effects to sound good, sorry KP!
BTW, happy 60th, you old ignorant fart.
>Newsgroups: alt.guitar.amps
>From: roccafortea...@aol,com (RoccaforteAmps)
>Subject: Re: Roccaforte Amps?
>
><<KP wrote: > That's when I dropped the idea of buying >a Roccaforte amp like a
>
>
>hot potato
>
>
>> and just went for the real deal, a vintage Marshall, >for less than half the
>> cost. >>
>
>
>KP,
>until you own or play one
>of my amps shut your mouth.
>I dont build marshall clones,
>and for the idiot you just made
>yourself out to be:
>"this SL sucks, my TSL blows it away",
>" wont buy Dougs amp, it doesnt have reverb",
>"I bought the amp on everyones recomendation"
>(boo fucking hoo)
>you knew that the superlead you were
>buying didnt have reverb either,
>why did you buy it?
>If your TSL is so great why buy the SL anyway?
>Well?
>Go ahead and see if your Bass player
>tech can give you some much needed
>help in the guitar tone dept,
>but dont talk shit about my work
>until you've at least played it.
>Doug
>
Kent Pearson is an idiot if he thinks a TSL is anywhere near a
hand-wired Roccaforte.
But then again, we already knew he was an idiot!
Only wankers need reverb and effects to sound good, sorry KP!
BTW, happy 60th, you old ignorant fart.
Re: Roccaforte Amps?
Jeff Fraken schrieb:
>> Newsgroups: alt.guitar.amps
>> From: roccafortea...@aol,com (RoccaforteAmps)
>> Subject: Re: Roccaforte Amps?
>>
>> <<KP wrote: > That's when I dropped the idea of buying >a Roccaforte amp like a
>>
>>
>> hot potato
>>
>>
>>> and just went for the real deal, a vintage Marshall, >for less than half the
>>> cost. >>
>>
>> KP,
>> until you own or play one
>> of my amps shut your mouth.
>> I dont build marshall clones,
>> and for the idiot you just made
>> yourself out to be:
>> "this SL sucks, my TSL blows it away",
>> " wont buy Dougs amp, it doesnt have reverb",
>> "I bought the amp on everyones recomendation"
>> (boo fucking hoo)
>> you knew that the superlead you were
>> buying didnt have reverb either,
>> why did you buy it?
>> If your TSL is so great why buy the SL anyway?
>> Well?
>> Go ahead and see if your Bass player
>> tech can give you some much needed
>> help in the guitar tone dept,
>> but dont talk shit about my work
>> until you've at least played it.
>> Doug
>>
>
>
>
> Kent Pearson is an idiot if he thinks a TSL is anywhere near a
> hand-wired Roccaforte.
>
> But then again, we already knew he was an idiot!
>
> Only wankers need reverb and effects to sound good, sorry KP!
>
> BTW, happy 60th, you old ignorant fart.
Why donīt you post the year when these posts were made?
Itīs at least 5 or 6 years ago. IIRC Kent ditched the TSL. He showed his
ability to learn.
shut up
Jochen
Jeff Fraken schrieb:
>> Newsgroups: alt.guitar.amps
>> From: roccafortea...@aol,com (RoccaforteAmps)
>> Subject: Re: Roccaforte Amps?
>>
>> <<KP wrote: > That's when I dropped the idea of buying >a Roccaforte amp like a
>>
>>
>> hot potato
>>
>>
>>> and just went for the real deal, a vintage Marshall, >for less than half the
>>> cost. >>
>>
>> KP,
>> until you own or play one
>> of my amps shut your mouth.
>> I dont build marshall clones,
>> and for the idiot you just made
>> yourself out to be:
>> "this SL sucks, my TSL blows it away",
>> " wont buy Dougs amp, it doesnt have reverb",
>> "I bought the amp on everyones recomendation"
>> (boo fucking hoo)
>> you knew that the superlead you were
>> buying didnt have reverb either,
>> why did you buy it?
>> If your TSL is so great why buy the SL anyway?
>> Well?
>> Go ahead and see if your Bass player
>> tech can give you some much needed
>> help in the guitar tone dept,
>> but dont talk shit about my work
>> until you've at least played it.
>> Doug
>>
>
>
>
> Kent Pearson is an idiot if he thinks a TSL is anywhere near a
> hand-wired Roccaforte.
>
> But then again, we already knew he was an idiot!
>
> Only wankers need reverb and effects to sound good, sorry KP!
>
> BTW, happy 60th, you old ignorant fart.
Why donīt you post the year when these posts were made?
Itīs at least 5 or 6 years ago. IIRC Kent ditched the TSL. He showed his
ability to learn.
shut up
Jochen
Re: Roccaforte Amps?
On Wed, 14 Mar 2007 07:33:24 +0100, jh <jh-audiop NOSPAM@t-online.de>
wrote:
>Jeff Fraken schrieb:
>>> Newsgroups: alt.guitar.amps
>>> From: roccafortea...@aol,com (RoccaforteAmps)
>>> Subject: Re: Roccaforte Amps?
>>>
>>> <<KP wrote: > That's when I dropped the idea of buying >a Roccaforte amp like a
>>>
>>>
>>> hot potato
>>>
>>>
>>>> and just went for the real deal, a vintage Marshall, >for less than half the
>>>> cost. >>
>>>
>>> KP,
>>> until you own or play one
>>> of my amps shut your mouth.
>>> I dont build marshall clones,
>>> and for the idiot you just made
>>> yourself out to be:
>>> "this SL sucks, my TSL blows it away",
>>> " wont buy Dougs amp, it doesnt have reverb",
>>> "I bought the amp on everyones recomendation"
>>> (boo fucking hoo)
>>> you knew that the superlead you were
>>> buying didnt have reverb either,
>>> why did you buy it?
>>> If your TSL is so great why buy the SL anyway?
>>> Well?
>>> Go ahead and see if your Bass player
>>> tech can give you some much needed
>>> help in the guitar tone dept,
>>> but dont talk shit about my work
>>> until you've at least played it.
>>> Doug
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Kent Pearson is an idiot if he thinks a TSL is anywhere near a
>> hand-wired Roccaforte.
>>
>> But then again, we already knew he was an idiot!
>>
>> Only wankers need reverb and effects to sound good, sorry KP!
>>
>> BTW, happy 60th, you old ignorant fart.
>
>Why donīt you post the year when these posts were made?
>
>Itīs at least 5 or 6 years ago. IIRC Kent ditched the TSL. He showed his
>ability to learn.
>
>shut up
>
>Jochen
Shut up, fool. Kent is a tone deaf moron.
He said in 20 years, the TSL will be tha amp all others are measurd
against. The dude's brain is fried and his playing shows it.
This is what he wrote about the tsl at harmony central -
http :// www .harmony-central,com /Guitar/Data/Marshall/JCM 2000 TSL-01.html
This is a FINAL ammendment to the two previous posts I'd made
immediately after I bought the amp, and I'd like to say something
after having actually having used the amp in several different stage
and studio situations. I have been playing for 33 years. I play many
different styles of old-generation rock and blues. My strong hand is
with the early Clapton (Cream period) style, and even more so the
style of Jimi Hendrix. Amps I have owned over the years have included
several vintage Fenders (including a 1959 3X10 tweed Bandmaster, many
Voxes (liked the AC-50 and the Berkeley the best), Sunns, Kustoms,
Hiwatt, Tweed Gretsch, etc, etc. Oh yes, and FOUR of the Super Lead
100 watts from the early 70's - the ones Marshall fans drool over, and
a very rare 200W Super Bass. Out of ALL those amps, NOTHING has come
even close to this TSL100 for tone and versatility. I don't care how
many negative comments you read about it in these listings - you'll
find negativity and complainers everywhere you look. These guys must
be cracked, or have no ears. Not even my old Super Leads sounded this
good. And one thing those amps vere definately NOT was versatile
because, to me, the clean sound was flat and lackluster - you had to
turn everything on 10 to get tone. The TSL has a great clean channel,
but it also has a better (for me) clean sound that can be gotten in
the Crunch channel that absolutely BRISTLES like a good old Vox
withit's top end boost. For that, I run bass at 5, mid at 10, treble
on 8, presence on 2, gain 2-4, Fender Strat with Texas Specials. The
Lead sounds? What do you want? This amp has anything I would ever want
to hear and more. And it makes me want to PLAY PLAY PLAY!!
Undoubtedly, for my money (and it WAS a lot) the best amp I've ever
owned in my life. I really don't see how it could be improved,
sound-wise. Feature-wise, all I could suggest would be the ability to
have seperate effects loop for the Crunch and Lead channels instead of
one for the clean and a shared one for the Crunch and Lead - but
that's a bone to pick. I predict that in 20 years, THIS will be the
amp they measure all others against. Nothing else in it's catagory
comes close. Any emails from others with this amp, or others with
questions about it are welcome.
On Wed, 14 Mar 2007 07:33:24 +0100, jh <jh-audiop NOSPAM@t-online.de>
wrote:
>Jeff Fraken schrieb:
>>> Newsgroups: alt.guitar.amps
>>> From: roccafortea...@aol,com (RoccaforteAmps)
>>> Subject: Re: Roccaforte Amps?
>>>
>>> <<KP wrote: > That's when I dropped the idea of buying >a Roccaforte amp like a
>>>
>>>
>>> hot potato
>>>
>>>
>>>> and just went for the real deal, a vintage Marshall, >for less than half the
>>>> cost. >>
>>>
>>> KP,
>>> until you own or play one
>>> of my amps shut your mouth.
>>> I dont build marshall clones,
>>> and for the idiot you just made
>>> yourself out to be:
>>> "this SL sucks, my TSL blows it away",
>>> " wont buy Dougs amp, it doesnt have reverb",
>>> "I bought the amp on everyones recomendation"
>>> (boo fucking hoo)
>>> you knew that the superlead you were
>>> buying didnt have reverb either,
>>> why did you buy it?
>>> If your TSL is so great why buy the SL anyway?
>>> Well?
>>> Go ahead and see if your Bass player
>>> tech can give you some much needed
>>> help in the guitar tone dept,
>>> but dont talk shit about my work
>>> until you've at least played it.
>>> Doug
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Kent Pearson is an idiot if he thinks a TSL is anywhere near a
>> hand-wired Roccaforte.
>>
>> But then again, we already knew he was an idiot!
>>
>> Only wankers need reverb and effects to sound good, sorry KP!
>>
>> BTW, happy 60th, you old ignorant fart.
>
>Why donīt you post the year when these posts were made?
>
>Itīs at least 5 or 6 years ago. IIRC Kent ditched the TSL. He showed his
>ability to learn.
>
>shut up
>
>Jochen
Shut up, fool. Kent is a tone deaf moron.
He said in 20 years, the TSL will be tha amp all others are measurd
against. The dude's brain is fried and his playing shows it.
This is what he wrote about the tsl at harmony central -
http :// www .harmony-central,com /Guitar/Data/Marshall/JCM 2000 TSL-01.html
This is a FINAL ammendment to the two previous posts I'd made
immediately after I bought the amp, and I'd like to say something
after having actually having used the amp in several different stage
and studio situations. I have been playing for 33 years. I play many
different styles of old-generation rock and blues. My strong hand is
with the early Clapton (Cream period) style, and even more so the
style of Jimi Hendrix. Amps I have owned over the years have included
several vintage Fenders (including a 1959 3X10 tweed Bandmaster, many
Voxes (liked the AC-50 and the Berkeley the best), Sunns, Kustoms,
Hiwatt, Tweed Gretsch, etc, etc. Oh yes, and FOUR of the Super Lead
100 watts from the early 70's - the ones Marshall fans drool over, and
a very rare 200W Super Bass. Out of ALL those amps, NOTHING has come
even close to this TSL100 for tone and versatility. I don't care how
many negative comments you read about it in these listings - you'll
find negativity and complainers everywhere you look. These guys must
be cracked, or have no ears. Not even my old Super Leads sounded this
good. And one thing those amps vere definately NOT was versatile
because, to me, the clean sound was flat and lackluster - you had to
turn everything on 10 to get tone. The TSL has a great clean channel,
but it also has a better (for me) clean sound that can be gotten in
the Crunch channel that absolutely BRISTLES like a good old Vox
withit's top end boost. For that, I run bass at 5, mid at 10, treble
on 8, presence on 2, gain 2-4, Fender Strat with Texas Specials. The
Lead sounds? What do you want? This amp has anything I would ever want
to hear and more. And it makes me want to PLAY PLAY PLAY!!
Undoubtedly, for my money (and it WAS a lot) the best amp I've ever
owned in my life. I really don't see how it could be improved,
sound-wise. Feature-wise, all I could suggest would be the ability to
have seperate effects loop for the Crunch and Lead channels instead of
one for the clean and a shared one for the Crunch and Lead - but
that's a bone to pick. I predict that in 20 years, THIS will be the
amp they measure all others against. Nothing else in it's catagory
comes close. Any emails from others with this amp, or others with
questions about it are welcome.
Re: Roccaforte Amps?
On Mar 14, 3:08 am, Jeff Fraken <j...@jhrockr,com > wrote:
> On Wed, 14 Mar 2007 07:33:24 +0100, jh <jh-audiop NOS...@t-online.de>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> >Jeff Fraken schrieb:
> >>> Newsgroups: alt.guitar.amps
> >>> From: roccafortea...@aol,com (RoccaforteAmps)
> >>> Subject: Re: Roccaforte Amps?
>
> >>> <<KP wrote: > That's when I dropped the idea of buying >a Roccaforte amp like a
>
> >>> hot potato
>
> >>>> and just went for the real deal, a vintage Marshall, >for less than half the
> >>>> cost. >>
>
> >>> KP,
> >>> until you own or play one
> >>> of my amps shut your mouth.
> >>> I dont build marshall clones,
> >>> and for the idiot you just made
> >>> yourself out to be:
> >>> "this SL sucks, my TSL blows it away",
> >>> " wont buy Dougs amp, it doesnt have reverb",
> >>> "I bought the amp on everyones recomendation"
> >>> (boo fucking hoo)
> >>> you knew that the superlead you were
> >>> buying didnt have reverb either,
> >>> why did you buy it?
> >>> If your TSL is so great why buy the SL anyway?
> >>> Well?
> >>> Go ahead and see if your Bass player
> >>> tech can give you some much needed
> >>> help in the guitar tone dept,
> >>> but dont talk shit about my work
> >>> until you've at least played it.
> >>> Doug
>
> >> Kent Pearson is an idiot if he thinks a TSL is anywhere near a
> >> hand-wired Roccaforte.
>
> >> But then again, we already knew he was an idiot!
>
> >> Only wankers need reverb and effects to sound good, sorry KP!
>
> >> BTW, happy 60th, you old ignorant fart.
>
> >Why donīt you post the year when these posts were made?
>
> >Itīs at least 5 or 6 years ago. IIRC Kent ditched the TSL. He showed his
> >ability to learn.
>
> >shut up
>
> >Jochen
>
> Shut up, fool. Kent is a tone deaf moron.
>
> He said in 20 years, the TSL will be tha amp all others are measurd
> against. The dude's brain is fried and his playing shows it.
>
> This is what he wrote about the tsl at harmony central -
>
> http :// www .harmony-central,com /Guitar/Data/Marshall/JCM 2000 TSL-01.html
>
> This is a FINAL ammendment to the two previous posts I'd made
> immediately after I bought the amp, and I'd like to say something
> after having actually having used the amp in several different stage
> and studio situations. I have been playing for 33 years. I play many
> different styles of old-generation rock and blues. My strong hand is
> with the early Clapton (Cream period) style, and even more so the
> style of Jimi Hendrix. Amps I have owned over the years have included
> several vintage Fenders (including a 1959 3X10 tweed Bandmaster, many
> Voxes (liked the AC-50 and the Berkeley the best), Sunns, Kustoms,
> Hiwatt, Tweed Gretsch, etc, etc. Oh yes, and FOUR of the Super Lead
> 100 watts from the early 70's - the ones Marshall fans drool over, and
> a very rare 200W Super Bass. Out of ALL those amps, NOTHING has come
> even close to this TSL100 for tone and versatility. I don't care how
> many negative comments you read about it in these listings - you'll
> find negativity and complainers everywhere you look. These guys must
> be cracked, or have no ears. Not even my old Super Leads sounded this
> good. And one thing those amps vere definately NOT was versatile
> because, to me, the clean sound was flat and lackluster - you had to
> turn everything on 10 to get tone. The TSL has a great clean channel,
> but it also has a better (for me) clean sound that can be gotten in
> the Crunch channel that absolutely BRISTLES like a good old Vox
> withit's top end boost. For that, I run bass at 5, mid at 10, treble
> on 8, presence on 2, gain 2-4, Fender Strat with Texas Specials. The
> Lead sounds? What do you want? This amp has anything I would ever want
> to hear and more. And it makes me want to PLAY PLAY PLAY!!
> Undoubtedly, for my money (and it WAS a lot) the best amp I've ever
> owned in my life. I really don't see how it could be improved,
> sound-wise. Feature-wise, all I could suggest would be the ability to
> have seperate effects loop for the Crunch and Lead channels instead of
> one for the clean and a shared one for the Crunch and Lead - but
> that's a bone to pick. I predict that in 20 years, THIS will be the
> amp they measure all others against. Nothing else in it's catagory
> comes close. Any emails from others with this amp, or others with
> questions about it are welcome.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
He wrote that like eight years ago??????
Have you been cryogenically frozen since then or something?
Maybe banished to one of those mirrors in space like Superman?
Plotting your revenge?
Chris
On Mar 14, 3:08 am, Jeff Fraken <j...@jhrockr,com > wrote:
> On Wed, 14 Mar 2007 07:33:24 +0100, jh <jh-audiop NOS...@t-online.de>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> >Jeff Fraken schrieb:
> >>> Newsgroups: alt.guitar.amps
> >>> From: roccafortea...@aol,com (RoccaforteAmps)
> >>> Subject: Re: Roccaforte Amps?
>
> >>> <<KP wrote: > That's when I dropped the idea of buying >a Roccaforte amp like a
>
> >>> hot potato
>
> >>>> and just went for the real deal, a vintage Marshall, >for less than half the
> >>>> cost. >>
>
> >>> KP,
> >>> until you own or play one
> >>> of my amps shut your mouth.
> >>> I dont build marshall clones,
> >>> and for the idiot you just made
> >>> yourself out to be:
> >>> "this SL sucks, my TSL blows it away",
> >>> " wont buy Dougs amp, it doesnt have reverb",
> >>> "I bought the amp on everyones recomendation"
> >>> (boo fucking hoo)
> >>> you knew that the superlead you were
> >>> buying didnt have reverb either,
> >>> why did you buy it?
> >>> If your TSL is so great why buy the SL anyway?
> >>> Well?
> >>> Go ahead and see if your Bass player
> >>> tech can give you some much needed
> >>> help in the guitar tone dept,
> >>> but dont talk shit about my work
> >>> until you've at least played it.
> >>> Doug
>
> >> Kent Pearson is an idiot if he thinks a TSL is anywhere near a
> >> hand-wired Roccaforte.
>
> >> But then again, we already knew he was an idiot!
>
> >> Only wankers need reverb and effects to sound good, sorry KP!
>
> >> BTW, happy 60th, you old ignorant fart.
>
> >Why donīt you post the year when these posts were made?
>
> >Itīs at least 5 or 6 years ago. IIRC Kent ditched the TSL. He showed his
> >ability to learn.
>
> >shut up
>
> >Jochen
>
> Shut up, fool. Kent is a tone deaf moron.
>
> He said in 20 years, the TSL will be tha amp all others are measurd
> against. The dude's brain is fried and his playing shows it.
>
> This is what he wrote about the tsl at harmony central -
>
> http :// www .harmony-central,com /Guitar/Data/Marshall/JCM 2000 TSL-01.html
>
> This is a FINAL ammendment to the two previous posts I'd made
> immediately after I bought the amp, and I'd like to say something
> after having actually having used the amp in several different stage
> and studio situations. I have been playing for 33 years. I play many
> different styles of old-generation rock and blues. My strong hand is
> with the early Clapton (Cream period) style, and even more so the
> style of Jimi Hendrix. Amps I have owned over the years have included
> several vintage Fenders (including a 1959 3X10 tweed Bandmaster, many
> Voxes (liked the AC-50 and the Berkeley the best), Sunns, Kustoms,
> Hiwatt, Tweed Gretsch, etc, etc. Oh yes, and FOUR of the Super Lead
> 100 watts from the early 70's - the ones Marshall fans drool over, and
> a very rare 200W Super Bass. Out of ALL those amps, NOTHING has come
> even close to this TSL100 for tone and versatility. I don't care how
> many negative comments you read about it in these listings - you'll
> find negativity and complainers everywhere you look. These guys must
> be cracked, or have no ears. Not even my old Super Leads sounded this
> good. And one thing those amps vere definately NOT was versatile
> because, to me, the clean sound was flat and lackluster - you had to
> turn everything on 10 to get tone. The TSL has a great clean channel,
> but it also has a better (for me) clean sound that can be gotten in
> the Crunch channel that absolutely BRISTLES like a good old Vox
> withit's top end boost. For that, I run bass at 5, mid at 10, treble
> on 8, presence on 2, gain 2-4, Fender Strat with Texas Specials. The
> Lead sounds? What do you want? This amp has anything I would ever want
> to hear and more. And it makes me want to PLAY PLAY PLAY!!
> Undoubtedly, for my money (and it WAS a lot) the best amp I've ever
> owned in my life. I really don't see how it could be improved,
> sound-wise. Feature-wise, all I could suggest would be the ability to
> have seperate effects loop for the Crunch and Lead channels instead of
> one for the clean and a shared one for the Crunch and Lead - but
> that's a bone to pick. I predict that in 20 years, THIS will be the
> amp they measure all others against. Nothing else in it's catagory
> comes close. Any emails from others with this amp, or others with
> questions about it are welcome.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
He wrote that like eight years ago??????
Have you been cryogenically frozen since then or something?
Maybe banished to one of those mirrors in space like Superman?
Plotting your revenge?
Chris
Re: Roccaforte Amps?
Why do you cross post your brainless bullshit here?
I doubt that anyone who visits here wants to see it. We create our own
trouble without you chipping in.
"Jeff Fraken" <jf@jhrockr,com > wrote in message
news:0avev2plchvaf6nd4ornkp6alg3tcmr33v@4ax,com ...
> >Newsgroups: alt.guitar.amps
>>From: roccafortea...@aol,com (RoccaforteAmps)
>>Subject: Re: Roccaforte Amps?
>>
>><<KP wrote: > That's when I dropped the idea of buying >a Roccaforte amp
>>like a
>>
>>
>>hot potato
>>
>>
>>> and just went for the real deal, a vintage Marshall, >for less than half
>>> the
>>> cost. >>
>>
>>
>>KP,
>>until you own or play one
>>of my amps shut your mouth.
>>I dont build marshall clones,
>>and for the idiot you just made
>>yourself out to be:
>>"this SL sucks, my TSL blows it away",
>>" wont buy Dougs amp, it doesnt have reverb",
>>"I bought the amp on everyones recomendation"
>>(boo fucking hoo)
>>you knew that the superlead you were
>>buying didnt have reverb either,
>>why did you buy it?
>>If your TSL is so great why buy the SL anyway?
>>Well?
>>Go ahead and see if your Bass player
>>tech can give you some much needed
>>help in the guitar tone dept,
>>but dont talk shit about my work
>>until you've at least played it.
>>Doug
>>
>
>
>
> Kent Pearson is an idiot if he thinks a TSL is anywhere near a
> hand-wired Roccaforte.
>
> But then again, we already knew he was an idiot!
>
> Only wankers need reverb and effects to sound good, sorry KP!
>
> BTW, happy 60th, you old ignorant fart.
Why do you cross post your brainless bullshit here?
I doubt that anyone who visits here wants to see it. We create our own
trouble without you chipping in.
"Jeff Fraken" <jf@jhrockr,com > wrote in message
news:0avev2plchvaf6nd4ornkp6alg3tcmr33v@4ax,com ...
> >Newsgroups: alt.guitar.amps
>>From: roccafortea...@aol,com (RoccaforteAmps)
>>Subject: Re: Roccaforte Amps?
>>
>><<KP wrote: > That's when I dropped the idea of buying >a Roccaforte amp
>>like a
>>
>>
>>hot potato
>>
>>
>>> and just went for the real deal, a vintage Marshall, >for less than half
>>> the
>>> cost. >>
>>
>>
>>KP,
>>until you own or play one
>>of my amps shut your mouth.
>>I dont build marshall clones,
>>and for the idiot you just made
>>yourself out to be:
>>"this SL sucks, my TSL blows it away",
>>" wont buy Dougs amp, it doesnt have reverb",
>>"I bought the amp on everyones recomendation"
>>(boo fucking hoo)
>>you knew that the superlead you were
>>buying didnt have reverb either,
>>why did you buy it?
>>If your TSL is so great why buy the SL anyway?
>>Well?
>>Go ahead and see if your Bass player
>>tech can give you some much needed
>>help in the guitar tone dept,
>>but dont talk shit about my work
>>until you've at least played it.
>>Doug
>>
>
>
>
> Kent Pearson is an idiot if he thinks a TSL is anywhere near a
> hand-wired Roccaforte.
>
> But then again, we already knew he was an idiot!
>
> Only wankers need reverb and effects to sound good, sorry KP!
>
> BTW, happy 60th, you old ignorant fart.
Re: Roccaforte Amps?
On Wed, 14 Mar 2007 02:23:04 -0700, "Keith Adams"
<keithadams@socal.rr,com > wrote:
>Why do you cross post your brainless bullshit here?
> I doubt that anyone who visits here wants to see it. We create our own
>trouble without you chipping in.
>
You sound horribly gay.
>"Jeff Fraken" <jf@jhrockr,com > wrote in message
>news:0avev2plchvaf6nd4ornkp6alg3tcmr33v@4ax,com ...
>> >Newsgroups: alt.guitar.amps
>>>From: roccafortea...@aol,com (RoccaforteAmps)
>>>Subject: Re: Roccaforte Amps?
>>>
>>><<KP wrote: > That's when I dropped the idea of buying >a Roccaforte amp
>>>like a
>>>
>>>
>>>hot potato
>>>
>>>
>>>> and just went for the real deal, a vintage Marshall, >for less than half
>>>> the
>>>> cost. >>
>>>
>>>
>>>KP,
>>>until you own or play one
>>>of my amps shut your mouth.
>>>I dont build marshall clones,
>>>and for the idiot you just made
>>>yourself out to be:
>>>"this SL sucks, my TSL blows it away",
>>>" wont buy Dougs amp, it doesnt have reverb",
>>>"I bought the amp on everyones recomendation"
>>>(boo fucking hoo)
>>>you knew that the superlead you were
>>>buying didnt have reverb either,
>>>why did you buy it?
>>>If your TSL is so great why buy the SL anyway?
>>>Well?
>>>Go ahead and see if your Bass player
>>>tech can give you some much needed
>>>help in the guitar tone dept,
>>>but dont talk shit about my work
>>>until you've at least played it.
>>>Doug
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Kent Pearson is an idiot if he thinks a TSL is anywhere near a
>> hand-wired Roccaforte.
>>
>> But then again, we already knew he was an idiot!
>>
>> Only wankers need reverb and effects to sound good, sorry KP!
>>
>> BTW, happy 60th, you old ignorant fart.
>
On Wed, 14 Mar 2007 02:23:04 -0700, "Keith Adams"
<keithadams@socal.rr,com > wrote:
>Why do you cross post your brainless bullshit here?
> I doubt that anyone who visits here wants to see it. We create our own
>trouble without you chipping in.
>
You sound horribly gay.
>"Jeff Fraken" <jf@jhrockr,com > wrote in message
>news:0avev2plchvaf6nd4ornkp6alg3tcmr33v@4ax,com ...
>> >Newsgroups: alt.guitar.amps
>>>From: roccafortea...@aol,com (RoccaforteAmps)
>>>Subject: Re: Roccaforte Amps?
>>>
>>><<KP wrote: > That's when I dropped the idea of buying >a Roccaforte amp
>>>like a
>>>
>>>
>>>hot potato
>>>
>>>
>>>> and just went for the real deal, a vintage Marshall, >for less than half
>>>> the
>>>> cost. >>
>>>
>>>
>>>KP,
>>>until you own or play one
>>>of my amps shut your mouth.
>>>I dont build marshall clones,
>>>and for the idiot you just made
>>>yourself out to be:
>>>"this SL sucks, my TSL blows it away",
>>>" wont buy Dougs amp, it doesnt have reverb",
>>>"I bought the amp on everyones recomendation"
>>>(boo fucking hoo)
>>>you knew that the superlead you were
>>>buying didnt have reverb either,
>>>why did you buy it?
>>>If your TSL is so great why buy the SL anyway?
>>>Well?
>>>Go ahead and see if your Bass player
>>>tech can give you some much needed
>>>help in the guitar tone dept,
>>>but dont talk shit about my work
>>>until you've at least played it.
>>>Doug
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Kent Pearson is an idiot if he thinks a TSL is anywhere near a
>> hand-wired Roccaforte.
>>
>> But then again, we already knew he was an idiot!
>>
>> Only wankers need reverb and effects to sound good, sorry KP!
>>
>> BTW, happy 60th, you old ignorant fart.
>
Re: Roccaforte Amps?
Hello Fritz,
Made any tubes yet or have your machines rusted away?
Clarke
On Mar 13, 11:47=EF=BF=BDpm, Jeff Fraken <j...@jhrockr,com > wrote:
> >Newsgroups: alt.guitar.amps
> >From: roccafortea...@aol,com (RoccaforteAmps)
> >Subject: Re: Roccaforte Amps?
>
> ><<KP wrote: > That's when I dropped the idea of buying >a Roccaforte amp=
like a
>
> >hot potato
>
> >> and just went for the real deal, a vintage Marshall, >for less than ha=
lf the
> >> cost. =A0>>
>
> >KP,
> >until you own or play one
> >of my amps shut your mouth.
> >I dont build marshall clones,
> >and for the idiot you just made
> >yourself out to be:
> >"this SL sucks, my TSL blows it away",
> >" wont buy Dougs amp, it doesnt have reverb",
> >"I bought the amp on everyones recomendation"
> >(boo fucking hoo)
> >you knew that the superlead you were
> >buying didnt have reverb either,
> >why did you buy it?
> >If your TSL is so great why buy the SL anyway?
> >Well?
> >Go ahead and see if your Bass player
> >tech can give you some much needed
> >help in the guitar tone dept,
> >but dont talk shit about my work
> >until you've at least played it.
> >Doug
>
> Kent Pearson is an idiot if he thinks a TSL is anywhere near a
> hand-wired Roccaforte.
>
> But then again, we already knew he was an idiot!
>
> Only wankers need reverb and effects to sound good, sorry KP!
>
> BTW, happy 60th, you old ignorant fart.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
Hello Fritz,
Made any tubes yet or have your machines rusted away?
Clarke
On Mar 13, 11:47=EF=BF=BDpm, Jeff Fraken <j...@jhrockr,com > wrote:
> >Newsgroups: alt.guitar.amps
> >From: roccafortea...@aol,com (RoccaforteAmps)
> >Subject: Re: Roccaforte Amps?
>
> ><<KP wrote: > That's when I dropped the idea of buying >a Roccaforte amp=
like a
>
> >hot potato
>
> >> and just went for the real deal, a vintage Marshall, >for less than ha=
lf the
> >> cost. =A0>>
>
> >KP,
> >until you own or play one
> >of my amps shut your mouth.
> >I dont build marshall clones,
> >and for the idiot you just made
> >yourself out to be:
> >"this SL sucks, my TSL blows it away",
> >" wont buy Dougs amp, it doesnt have reverb",
> >"I bought the amp on everyones recomendation"
> >(boo fucking hoo)
> >you knew that the superlead you were
> >buying didnt have reverb either,
> >why did you buy it?
> >If your TSL is so great why buy the SL anyway?
> >Well?
> >Go ahead and see if your Bass player
> >tech can give you some much needed
> >help in the guitar tone dept,
> >but dont talk shit about my work
> >until you've at least played it.
> >Doug
>
> Kent Pearson is an idiot if he thinks a TSL is anywhere near a
> hand-wired Roccaforte.
>
> But then again, we already knew he was an idiot!
>
> Only wankers need reverb and effects to sound good, sorry KP!
>
> BTW, happy 60th, you old ignorant fart.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
Re: Roccaforte Amps?
On 14 Mar 2007 05:02:01 -0700, "Naked" <aclarke3@aol,com > wrote:
>Hello Fritz,
>
>Made any tubes yet or have your machines rusted away?
>
Hello kent,
Cried to mommy lately, you old piece of shit.
>Clarke
>
>On Mar 13, 11:47?pm, Jeff Fraken <j...@jhrockr,com > wrote:
>> >Newsgroups: alt.guitar.amps
>> >From: roccafortea...@aol,com (RoccaforteAmps)
>> >Subject: Re: Roccaforte Amps?
>>
>> ><<KP wrote: > That's when I dropped the idea of buying >a Roccaforte amp like a
>>
>> >hot potato
>>
>> >> and just went for the real deal, a vintage Marshall, >for less than half the
>> >> cost. >>
>>
>> >KP,
>> >until you own or play one
>> >of my amps shut your mouth.
>> >I dont build marshall clones,
>> >and for the idiot you just made
>> >yourself out to be:
>> >"this SL sucks, my TSL blows it away",
>> >" wont buy Dougs amp, it doesnt have reverb",
>> >"I bought the amp on everyones recomendation"
>> >(boo fucking hoo)
>> >you knew that the superlead you were
>> >buying didnt have reverb either,
>> >why did you buy it?
>> >If your TSL is so great why buy the SL anyway?
>> >Well?
>> >Go ahead and see if your Bass player
>> >tech can give you some much needed
>> >help in the guitar tone dept,
>> >but dont talk shit about my work
>> >until you've at least played it.
>> >Doug
>>
>> Kent Pearson is an idiot if he thinks a TSL is anywhere near a
>> hand-wired Roccaforte.
>>
>> But then again, we already knew he was an idiot!
>>
>> Only wankers need reverb and effects to sound good, sorry KP!
>>
>> BTW, happy 60th, you old ignorant fart.- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
On 14 Mar 2007 05:02:01 -0700, "Naked" <aclarke3@aol,com > wrote:
>Hello Fritz,
>
>Made any tubes yet or have your machines rusted away?
>
Hello kent,
Cried to mommy lately, you old piece of shit.
>Clarke
>
>On Mar 13, 11:47?pm, Jeff Fraken <j...@jhrockr,com > wrote:
>> >Newsgroups: alt.guitar.amps
>> >From: roccafortea...@aol,com (RoccaforteAmps)
>> >Subject: Re: Roccaforte Amps?
>>
>> ><<KP wrote: > That's when I dropped the idea of buying >a Roccaforte amp like a
>>
>> >hot potato
>>
>> >> and just went for the real deal, a vintage Marshall, >for less than half the
>> >> cost. >>
>>
>> >KP,
>> >until you own or play one
>> >of my amps shut your mouth.
>> >I dont build marshall clones,
>> >and for the idiot you just made
>> >yourself out to be:
>> >"this SL sucks, my TSL blows it away",
>> >" wont buy Dougs amp, it doesnt have reverb",
>> >"I bought the amp on everyones recomendation"
>> >(boo fucking hoo)
>> >you knew that the superlead you were
>> >buying didnt have reverb either,
>> >why did you buy it?
>> >If your TSL is so great why buy the SL anyway?
>> >Well?
>> >Go ahead and see if your Bass player
>> >tech can give you some much needed
>> >help in the guitar tone dept,
>> >but dont talk shit about my work
>> >until you've at least played it.
>> >Doug
>>
>> Kent Pearson is an idiot if he thinks a TSL is anywhere near a
>> hand-wired Roccaforte.
>>
>> But then again, we already knew he was an idiot!
>>
>> Only wankers need reverb and effects to sound good, sorry KP!
>>
>> BTW, happy 60th, you old ignorant fart.- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
Re: Roccaforte Amps?
On Thu, 15 Mar 2007 04:23:15 -0700, Jeff Fraken <jffw@jhrocker,com >
wrote:
>On 14 Mar 2007 05:02:01 -0700, "Naked" <aclarke3@aol,com > wrote:
>
>>Hello Fritz,
>>
>>Made any tubes yet or have your machines rusted away?
>Cried to mommy lately, you old piece of shit.
...said Jeff Fraken @ Giganews? Someone said that our dear Gigaboy
was actually Doug Roccaforte. I thought it was unlikely at the time,
but the old posts that 'Jeff' quotes for support were actually
Roccaforte aliases.
I kind of liked the Gigaboy spammer in some perverse way, but the
'Jeff Fraken' persona just seems ignorant. Gigaboy, tell me this
isn't you, little buddy!
No big deal to me if this is Roccaforte, but I don't understand how
this mentality could deal anything more complicated than a can opener,
much less build a guitar amp.
On Thu, 15 Mar 2007 04:23:15 -0700, Jeff Fraken <jffw@jhrocker,com >
wrote:
>On 14 Mar 2007 05:02:01 -0700, "Naked" <aclarke3@aol,com > wrote:
>
>>Hello Fritz,
>>
>>Made any tubes yet or have your machines rusted away?
>Cried to mommy lately, you old piece of shit.
...said Jeff Fraken @ Giganews? Someone said that our dear Gigaboy
was actually Doug Roccaforte. I thought it was unlikely at the time,
but the old posts that 'Jeff' quotes for support were actually
Roccaforte aliases.
I kind of liked the Gigaboy spammer in some perverse way, but the
'Jeff Fraken' persona just seems ignorant. Gigaboy, tell me this
isn't you, little buddy!
No big deal to me if this is Roccaforte, but I don't understand how
this mentality could deal anything more complicated than a can opener,
much less build a guitar amp.
Re: Roccaforte Amps?
"V" <V@nospam,com > wrote in message
news:2rkjv2pmhvk80o19686scj3cqs5mib91k1@4ax,com ...
...
> No big deal to me if this is Roccaforte, but I don't understand how
> this mentality could deal anything more complicated than a can opener,
> much less build a guitar amp.
Furniture... with Marshall Clone guts. See Roccaforte,
think Expensive Furniture.
He *did* hip us to MM, though...
__
Steve
.
"V" <V@nospam,com > wrote in message
news:2rkjv2pmhvk80o19686scj3cqs5mib91k1@4ax,com ...
...
> No big deal to me if this is Roccaforte, but I don't understand how
> this mentality could deal anything more complicated than a can opener,
> much less build a guitar amp.
Furniture... with Marshall Clone guts. See Roccaforte,
think Expensive Furniture.
He *did* hip us to MM, though...
__
Steve
.
Re: Roccaforte Amps?
Stephen Cowell wrote:
> "V" <V@nospam,com > wrote in message
> news:2rkjv2pmhvk80o19686scj3cqs5mib91k1@4ax,com ...
>
> ...
>
>
>>No big deal to me if this is Roccaforte, but I don't understand how
>>this mentality could deal anything more complicated than a can opener,
>>much less build a guitar amp.
>
>
> Furniture... with Marshall Clone guts. See Roccaforte,
> think Expensive Furniture.
Based on his sound clips, seems to be higher gain. Somewhere between
Marshall and Soldano. But computer clips are not the best way to judge.
I've seen some shots of his layout and wiring, and they look NICE.
Stephen Cowell wrote:
> "V" <V@nospam,com > wrote in message
> news:2rkjv2pmhvk80o19686scj3cqs5mib91k1@4ax,com ...
>
> ...
>
>
>>No big deal to me if this is Roccaforte, but I don't understand how
>>this mentality could deal anything more complicated than a can opener,
>>much less build a guitar amp.
>
>
> Furniture... with Marshall Clone guts. See Roccaforte,
> think Expensive Furniture.
Based on his sound clips, seems to be higher gain. Somewhere between
Marshall and Soldano. But computer clips are not the best way to judge.
I've seen some shots of his layout and wiring, and they look NICE.
Re: Roccaforte Amps?
"Jim" <askme@beforeyousend,com > wrote in message
news:12vjsmplkoqv450@corp.supernews,com ...
> Stephen Cowell wrote:
>
>> "V" <V@nospam,com > wrote in message
>> news:2rkjv2pmhvk80o19686scj3cqs5mib91k1@4ax,com ...
>>
>> ...
>>
>>
>>>No big deal to me if this is Roccaforte, but I don't understand how
>>>this mentality could deal anything more complicated than a can opener,
>>>much less build a guitar amp.
>>
>>
>> Furniture... with Marshall Clone guts. See Roccaforte,
>> think Expensive Furniture.
>
> Based on his sound clips, seems to be higher gain. Somewhere between
> Marshall and Soldano. But computer clips are not the best way to judge.
>
> I've seen some shots of his layout and wiring, and they look NICE.
Yes, I've seen them as well... they do look
nice, inside. So does an old HiWatt.
__
Steve
.
"Jim" <askme@beforeyousend,com > wrote in message
news:12vjsmplkoqv450@corp.supernews,com ...
> Stephen Cowell wrote:
>
>> "V" <V@nospam,com > wrote in message
>> news:2rkjv2pmhvk80o19686scj3cqs5mib91k1@4ax,com ...
>>
>> ...
>>
>>
>>>No big deal to me if this is Roccaforte, but I don't understand how
>>>this mentality could deal anything more complicated than a can opener,
>>>much less build a guitar amp.
>>
>>
>> Furniture... with Marshall Clone guts. See Roccaforte,
>> think Expensive Furniture.
>
> Based on his sound clips, seems to be higher gain. Somewhere between
> Marshall and Soldano. But computer clips are not the best way to judge.
>
> I've seen some shots of his layout and wiring, and they look NICE.
Yes, I've seen them as well... they do look
nice, inside. So does an old HiWatt.
__
Steve
.
Re: Roccaforte Amps?
On Fri, 16 Mar 2007 02:20:18 GMT, "Stephen Cowell"
<scowell@sbcglobal,net > wrote:
>
>"Jim" <askme@beforeyousend,com > wrote in message
>news:12vjsmplkoqv450@corp.supernews,com ...
>> Stephen Cowell wrote:
>>
>>> "V" <V@nospam,com > wrote in message
>>> news:2rkjv2pmhvk80o19686scj3cqs5mib91k1@4ax,com ...
>>>>No big deal to me if this is Roccaforte, but I don't understand how
>>>>this mentality could deal anything more complicated than a can opener,
>>>>much less build a guitar amp.
>>>
>>>
>>> Furniture... with Marshall Clone guts. See Roccaforte,
>>> think Expensive Furniture.
>>
>> Based on his sound clips, seems to be higher gain. Somewhere between
>> Marshall and Soldano. But computer clips are not the best way to judge.
>>
>> I've seen some shots of his layout and wiring, and they look NICE.
>
>Yes, I've seen them as well... they do look
>nice, inside. So does an old HiWatt.
>__
>Steve
That was you that nailed Gigaboy = Roccaforte, right? Good catch.
The Kent Pearson posts were one thing (nothing like holding a grudge
for years!) but to think that all the asinine crossposted political
trash was posted by an adult! That's amazing that he'd trash music
groups like that. Especially if he counts on musicians as a source of
income.
Anyway, I haven't seen the guts of his amps, but I listened to Kent
Pearson's clips, then listened to some Roccaforte clips (yeah, Kent is
a player, and Doug evidently isn't, but I wondered what they were
after re tone). Kent seems to get some nice, liquid tones which are
perfect for what he does. Some had an early Clapton vibe. Some oddly
reminded me of slightly deeper sounding Hendrix, kind of like Trower
without the extra electronics.
The Roccaforte Amp clips, by contrast, were annoyingly edgy, with some
kind of a raspy resonance that showed up in most of them. Granted, I
didn't listen to that many, so maybe they are not all like that. That
sound may be appropriate for thrashy-sounding stuff where you're
constantly hitting power chords, but I didn't hear the guitar through
it, even during less heavy passages. Kind of like a diode distortion
box. I can see why Kent decided against them. Even the supposedly
clean tracks had the fizzy-sounding top.
There was one of the clips that sounded pretty good. Maybe he needs to
get someone else to demo them. Doug/Gigaboy, you should hire Kent to
do your demos!
On Fri, 16 Mar 2007 02:20:18 GMT, "Stephen Cowell"
<scowell@sbcglobal,net > wrote:
>
>"Jim" <askme@beforeyousend,com > wrote in message
>news:12vjsmplkoqv450@corp.supernews,com ...
>> Stephen Cowell wrote:
>>
>>> "V" <V@nospam,com > wrote in message
>>> news:2rkjv2pmhvk80o19686scj3cqs5mib91k1@4ax,com ...
>>>>No big deal to me if this is Roccaforte, but I don't understand how
>>>>this mentality could deal anything more complicated than a can opener,
>>>>much less build a guitar amp.
>>>
>>>
>>> Furniture... with Marshall Clone guts. See Roccaforte,
>>> think Expensive Furniture.
>>
>> Based on his sound clips, seems to be higher gain. Somewhere between
>> Marshall and Soldano. But computer clips are not the best way to judge.
>>
>> I've seen some shots of his layout and wiring, and they look NICE.
>
>Yes, I've seen them as well... they do look
>nice, inside. So does an old HiWatt.
>__
>Steve
That was you that nailed Gigaboy = Roccaforte, right? Good catch.
The Kent Pearson posts were one thing (nothing like holding a grudge
for years!) but to think that all the asinine crossposted political
trash was posted by an adult! That's amazing that he'd trash music
groups like that. Especially if he counts on musicians as a source of
income.
Anyway, I haven't seen the guts of his amps, but I listened to Kent
Pearson's clips, then listened to some Roccaforte clips (yeah, Kent is
a player, and Doug evidently isn't, but I wondered what they were
after re tone). Kent seems to get some nice, liquid tones which are
perfect for what he does. Some had an early Clapton vibe. Some oddly
reminded me of slightly deeper sounding Hendrix, kind of like Trower
without the extra electronics.
The Roccaforte Amp clips, by contrast, were annoyingly edgy, with some
kind of a raspy resonance that showed up in most of them. Granted, I
didn't listen to that many, so maybe they are not all like that. That
sound may be appropriate for thrashy-sounding stuff where you're
constantly hitting power chords, but I didn't hear the guitar through
it, even during less heavy passages. Kind of like a diode distortion
box. I can see why Kent decided against them. Even the supposedly
clean tracks had the fizzy-sounding top.
There was one of the clips that sounded pretty good. Maybe he needs to
get someone else to demo them. Doug/Gigaboy, you should hire Kent to
do your demos!
Re: Roccaforte Amps?
On Fri, 16 Mar 2007 00:11:52 -0500, V <V@nospam,com > wrote:
>On Fri, 16 Mar 2007 02:20:18 GMT, "Stephen Cowell"
><scowell@sbcglobal,net > wrote:
>
>>
>>"Jim" <askme@beforeyousend,com > wrote in message
>>news:12vjsmplkoqv450@corp.supernews,com ...
>>> Stephen Cowell wrote:
>>>
>>>> "V" <V@nospam,com > wrote in message
>>>> news:2rkjv2pmhvk80o19686scj3cqs5mib91k1@4ax,com ...
>>>>>No big deal to me if this is Roccaforte, but I don't understand how
>>>>>this mentality could deal anything more complicated than a can opener,
>>>>>much less build a guitar amp.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Furniture... with Marshall Clone guts. See Roccaforte,
>>>> think Expensive Furniture.
>>>
>>> Based on his sound clips, seems to be higher gain. Somewhere between
>>> Marshall and Soldano. But computer clips are not the best way to judge.
>>>
>>> I've seen some shots of his layout and wiring, and they look NICE.
>>
>>Yes, I've seen them as well... they do look
>>nice, inside. So does an old HiWatt.
>>__
>>Steve
>
>That was you that nailed Gigaboy = Roccaforte, right? Good catch.
>The Kent Pearson posts were one thing (nothing like holding a grudge
>for years!) but to think that all the asinine crossposted political
>trash was posted by an adult! That's amazing that he'd trash music
>groups like that. Especially if he counts on musicians as a source of
>income.
>
>Anyway, I haven't seen the guts of his amps, but I listened to Kent
>Pearson's clips, then listened to some Roccaforte clips (yeah, Kent is
>a player, and Doug evidently isn't, but I wondered what they were
>after re tone). Kent seems to get some nice, liquid tones which are
>perfect for what he does. Some had an early Clapton vibe. Some oddly
>reminded me of slightly deeper sounding Hendrix, kind of like Trower
>without the extra electronics.
>
>The Roccaforte Amp clips, by contrast, were annoyingly edgy, with some
>kind of a raspy resonance that showed up in most of them. Granted, I
>didn't listen to that many, so maybe they are not all like that. That
>sound may be appropriate for thrashy-sounding stuff where you're
>constantly hitting power chords, but I didn't hear the guitar through
>it, even during less heavy passages. Kind of like a diode distortion
>box. I can see why Kent decided against them. Even the supposedly
>clean tracks had the fizzy-sounding top.
>
>There was one of the clips that sounded pretty good. Maybe he needs to
>get someone else to demo them. Doug/Gigaboy, you should hire Kent to
>do your demos!
You better watch it little man.
Any post that comes from someone other than Doug or Roccaforte amps is
not representative of him or his company. So you better drop him from
this conversation asap.
Got it?
On Fri, 16 Mar 2007 00:11:52 -0500, V <V@nospam,com > wrote:
>On Fri, 16 Mar 2007 02:20:18 GMT, "Stephen Cowell"
><scowell@sbcglobal,net > wrote:
>
>>
>>"Jim" <askme@beforeyousend,com > wrote in message
>>news:12vjsmplkoqv450@corp.supernews,com ...
>>> Stephen Cowell wrote:
>>>
>>>> "V" <V@nospam,com > wrote in message
>>>> news:2rkjv2pmhvk80o19686scj3cqs5mib91k1@4ax,com ...
>>>>>No big deal to me if this is Roccaforte, but I don't understand how
>>>>>this mentality could deal anything more complicated than a can opener,
>>>>>much less build a guitar amp.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Furniture... with Marshall Clone guts. See Roccaforte,
>>>> think Expensive Furniture.
>>>
>>> Based on his sound clips, seems to be higher gain. Somewhere between
>>> Marshall and Soldano. But computer clips are not the best way to judge.
>>>
>>> I've seen some shots of his layout and wiring, and they look NICE.
>>
>>Yes, I've seen them as well... they do look
>>nice, inside. So does an old HiWatt.
>>__
>>Steve
>
>That was you that nailed Gigaboy = Roccaforte, right? Good catch.
>The Kent Pearson posts were one thing (nothing like holding a grudge
>for years!) but to think that all the asinine crossposted political
>trash was posted by an adult! That's amazing that he'd trash music
>groups like that. Especially if he counts on musicians as a source of
>income.
>
>Anyway, I haven't seen the guts of his amps, but I listened to Kent
>Pearson's clips, then listened to some Roccaforte clips (yeah, Kent is
>a player, and Doug evidently isn't, but I wondered what they were
>after re tone). Kent seems to get some nice, liquid tones which are
>perfect for what he does. Some had an early Clapton vibe. Some oddly
>reminded me of slightly deeper sounding Hendrix, kind of like Trower
>without the extra electronics.
>
>The Roccaforte Amp clips, by contrast, were annoyingly edgy, with some
>kind of a raspy resonance that showed up in most of them. Granted, I
>didn't listen to that many, so maybe they are not all like that. That
>sound may be appropriate for thrashy-sounding stuff where you're
>constantly hitting power chords, but I didn't hear the guitar through
>it, even during less heavy passages. Kind of like a diode distortion
>box. I can see why Kent decided against them. Even the supposedly
>clean tracks had the fizzy-sounding top.
>
>There was one of the clips that sounded pretty good. Maybe he needs to
>get someone else to demo them. Doug/Gigaboy, you should hire Kent to
>do your demos!
You better watch it little man.
Any post that comes from someone other than Doug or Roccaforte amps is
not representative of him or his company. So you better drop him from
this conversation asap.
Got it?
Re: Roccaforte Amps?
Rich M wrote:
> On Fri, 16 Mar 2007 00:11:52 -0500, V <V@nospam,com > wrote:
>
> >On Fri, 16 Mar 2007 02:20:18 GMT, "Stephen Cowell"
> ><scowell@sbcglobal,net > wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>"Jim" <askme@beforeyousend,com > wrote in message
> >>news:12vjsmplkoqv450@corp.supernews,com ...
> >>> Stephen Cowell wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> "V" <V@nospam,com > wrote in message
> >>>> news:2rkjv2pmhvk80o19686scj3cqs5mib91k1@4ax,com ...
> >>>>>No big deal to me if this is Roccaforte, but I don't understand how
> >>>>>this mentality could deal anything more complicated than a can opener,
> >>>>>much less build a guitar amp.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Furniture... with Marshall Clone guts. See Roccaforte,
> >>>> think Expensive Furniture.
> >>>
> >>> Based on his sound clips, seems to be higher gain. Somewhere between
> >>> Marshall and Soldano. But computer clips are not the best way to judge.
> >>>
> >>> I've seen some shots of his layout and wiring, and they look NICE.
> >>
> >>Yes, I've seen them as well... they do look
> >>nice, inside. So does an old HiWatt.
> >>__
> >>Steve
> >
> >That was you that nailed Gigaboy = Roccaforte, right? Good catch.
> >The Kent Pearson posts were one thing (nothing like holding a grudge
> >for years!) but to think that all the asinine crossposted political
> >trash was posted by an adult! That's amazing that he'd trash music
> >groups like that. Especially if he counts on musicians as a source of
> >income.
> >
> >Anyway, I haven't seen the guts of his amps, but I listened to Kent
> >Pearson's clips, then listened to some Roccaforte clips (yeah, Kent is
> >a player, and Doug evidently isn't, but I wondered what they were
> >after re tone). Kent seems to get some nice, liquid tones which are
> >perfect for what he does. Some had an early Clapton vibe. Some oddly
> >reminded me of slightly deeper sounding Hendrix, kind of like Trower
> >without the extra electronics.
> >
> >The Roccaforte Amp clips, by contrast, were annoyingly edgy, with some
> >kind of a raspy resonance that showed up in most of them. Granted, I
> >didn't listen to that many, so maybe they are not all like that. That
> >sound may be appropriate for thrashy-sounding stuff where you're
> >constantly hitting power chords, but I didn't hear the guitar through
> >it, even during less heavy passages. Kind of like a diode distortion
> >box. I can see why Kent decided against them. Even the supposedly
> >clean tracks had the fizzy-sounding top.
> >
> >There was one of the clips that sounded pretty good. Maybe he needs to
> >get someone else to demo them. Doug/Gigaboy, you should hire Kent to
> >do your demos!
>
> You better watch it little man.
>
> Any post that comes from someone other than Doug or Roccaforte amps is
> not representative of him or his company. So you better drop him from
> this conversation asap.
>
> Got it?
No, he doesn't "get it."
In fact, this whole piss-up has smelled like a character
assassination attack on Doug and his company from
the git-go. Kent Pearson is just the mule this creep
rode it in on.
LV
Rich M wrote:
> On Fri, 16 Mar 2007 00:11:52 -0500, V <V@nospam,com > wrote:
>
> >On Fri, 16 Mar 2007 02:20:18 GMT, "Stephen Cowell"
> ><scowell@sbcglobal,net > wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>"Jim" <askme@beforeyousend,com > wrote in message
> >>news:12vjsmplkoqv450@corp.supernews,com ...
> >>> Stephen Cowell wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> "V" <V@nospam,com > wrote in message
> >>>> news:2rkjv2pmhvk80o19686scj3cqs5mib91k1@4ax,com ...
> >>>>>No big deal to me if this is Roccaforte, but I don't understand how
> >>>>>this mentality could deal anything more complicated than a can opener,
> >>>>>much less build a guitar amp.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Furniture... with Marshall Clone guts. See Roccaforte,
> >>>> think Expensive Furniture.
> >>>
> >>> Based on his sound clips, seems to be higher gain. Somewhere between
> >>> Marshall and Soldano. But computer clips are not the best way to judge.
> >>>
> >>> I've seen some shots of his layout and wiring, and they look NICE.
> >>
> >>Yes, I've seen them as well... they do look
> >>nice, inside. So does an old HiWatt.
> >>__
> >>Steve
> >
> >That was you that nailed Gigaboy = Roccaforte, right? Good catch.
> >The Kent Pearson posts were one thing (nothing like holding a grudge
> >for years!) but to think that all the asinine crossposted political
> >trash was posted by an adult! That's amazing that he'd trash music
> >groups like that. Especially if he counts on musicians as a source of
> >income.
> >
> >Anyway, I haven't seen the guts of his amps, but I listened to Kent
> >Pearson's clips, then listened to some Roccaforte clips (yeah, Kent is
> >a player, and Doug evidently isn't, but I wondered what they were
> >after re tone). Kent seems to get some nice, liquid tones which are
> >perfect for what he does. Some had an early Clapton vibe. Some oddly
> >reminded me of slightly deeper sounding Hendrix, kind of like Trower
> >without the extra electronics.
> >
> >The Roccaforte Amp clips, by contrast, were annoyingly edgy, with some
> >kind of a raspy resonance that showed up in most of them. Granted, I
> >didn't listen to that many, so maybe they are not all like that. That
> >sound may be appropriate for thrashy-sounding stuff where you're
> >constantly hitting power chords, but I didn't hear the guitar through
> >it, even during less heavy passages. Kind of like a diode distortion
> >box. I can see why Kent decided against them. Even the supposedly
> >clean tracks had the fizzy-sounding top.
> >
> >There was one of the clips that sounded pretty good. Maybe he needs to
> >get someone else to demo them. Doug/Gigaboy, you should hire Kent to
> >do your demos!
>
> You better watch it little man.
>
> Any post that comes from someone other than Doug or Roccaforte amps is
> not representative of him or his company. So you better drop him from
> this conversation asap.
>
> Got it?
No, he doesn't "get it."
In fact, this whole piss-up has smelled like a character
assassination attack on Doug and his company from
the git-go. Kent Pearson is just the mule this creep
rode it in on.
LV
