There is no gas shortage

Saw this article in another ng, thought the drivers here would find it
interesting and something to think about next time you fill up and pay
US$4.00 for the gallon: * tinyurl . com /6hl2p9

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I am necromancer and I approved this poast.

On Apr 22, 7:58 pm, necromancer <55_sux@worldofnecromancer_NO-SPAM_NO-
WAY . com > wrote:
> Saw this article in another ng, thought the drivers here would find it
> interesting and something to think about next time you fill up and pay
> US$4.00 for the gallon: * tinyurl . com /6hl2p9
>
> --
> I am necromancer and I approved this poast.

I heard an account of that in the local news. Some of the
interviewees mentioned greed in the futures market as a big factor. I
have been suspecting that since we first cracked $2.

Also mentioned on the local news report was how investors were dumping
other investments to jump into the oil market. No wonder my 401K dove
into the $#itcan the past 3 months.

I am MLOM and I endorse necromancer's post.

On Apr 22, 7:07 pm, MLOM <gr...@netzero . net > wrote:

>
> I am MLOM and I endorse necromancer's post.

That's because neco is just another of your many aliases. You are such
a loser.

On Apr 22, 9:08 pm, "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS"
<beta...@earthlink . net > wrote:
> On Apr 22, 7:07 pm, MLOM <gr...@netzero . net > wrote:
>
>
>
> > I am MLOM and I endorse necromancer's post.
>
> That's because neco is just another of your many aliases. You are such
> a loser.

You're just disappointed I'm not c@lrög.

On Tue, 22 Apr 2008 19:30:15 -0700 (PDT), MLOM <grvan@netzero . net >
wrote:

>On Apr 22, 9:08 pm, "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS"
><beta...@earthlink . net > wrote:
>> On Apr 22, 7:07 pm, MLOM <gr...@netzero . net > wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> > I am MLOM and I endorse necromancer's post.
>>
>> That's because neco is just another of your many aliases. You are such
>> a loser.

ROTFLMAO!!!!!

>You're just disappointed I'm not c@lrög.

Maybe SFB was thinking (hoping, maybe) that you were erika....

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Speeders & Drunk Drivers Are MURDERERS (a.k.a. SFB) admits to being
a deadly speeder, psychopath and criminal coddler:

"> Have you ever driven a car faster than the legal speed limit?

Yes, but never deliberately. In fact i got a speeding ticket about 5
years ago for doing 41 in a 25. I just about kicked the cops teeth in
cause i was sure he was lying. No way the SL on this wide open
stretch could be 25, i thought."

Pride of America (c.k.a. Laura Bush murdered her boyfriend/
laura bush - VEHICULAR HOMICIDE/Speeders And Drunk Drivers
Are Murderers (SADDAM)), 10/3/2002
Message-ID: <3c1753f7.0210030916.7b6f5dff@posting.google . com >
* tinyurl . com /5u4wg

Proof that POA is LBMHB/lbVH/SADDAM:
See the following: * tinyurl . com /ahphj

In article <9c46de47-52af-4279-bda0-1c6908026b25@x35g2000hsb.googlegroups . com >, MLOM wrote:
>On Apr 22, 7:58 pm, necromancer <55_sux@worldofnecromancer_NO-SPAM_NO-
>WAY . com > wrote:
>> Saw this article in another ng, thought the drivers here would find it
>> interesting and something to think about next time you fill up and pay
>> US$4.00 for the gallon: * tinyurl . com /6hl2p9
>>
>> --
>> I am necromancer and I approved this poast.
>
>I heard an account of that in the local news. Some of the
>interviewees mentioned greed in the futures market as a big factor. I
>have been suspecting that since we first cracked $2.

>Also mentioned on the local news report was how investors were dumping
>other investments to jump into the oil market. No wonder my 401K dove
>into the $#itcan the past 3 months.
>
>I am MLOM and I endorse necromancer's post.

Gasoline and oil prices are more or less stable in silver and gold.

oh yeah, that's right... it's only tin-foil-hatter nutters that money
that private bankers and governments can't manipulate for their own
benefit.

On Apr 22, 9:15 pm, tetraethylleadREMOVET...@yahoo . com (Brent P)
wrote:
> In article <9c46de47-52af-4279-bda0-1c6908026...@x35g2000hsb.googlegroups.=
com>, MLOM wrote:
> >On Apr 22, 7:58 pm, necromancer <55_sux@worldofnecromancer_NO-SPAM_NO-
> >WAY . com > wrote:
> >> Saw this article in another ng, thought the drivers here would find it
> >> interesting and something to think about next time you fill up and pay
> >> US$4.00 for the gallon: * tinyurl . com /6hl2p9
>
> >> --
> >> I am necromancer and I approved this poast.
>
> >I heard an account of that in the local news.  Some of the
> >interviewees mentioned greed in the futures market as a big factor.  I
> >have been suspecting that since we first cracked $2.
> >Also mentioned on the local news report was how investors were dumping
> >other investments to jump into the oil market.  No wonder my 401K dove
> >into the $#itcan the past 3 months.
>
> >I am MLOM and I endorse necromancer's post.
>
> Gasoline and oil prices are more or less stable in silver and gold.

Not sure about silver and gold: both have been dropping (gold down
from over $1,000/oz to just over $900, and silver down from $21 to
around $18). I suspect that investors are now starting to dump silver
and gold like they are dumping other stocks in order to continue
jacking with oil.

> oh yeah, that's right... it's only tin-foil-hatter nutters that money
> that private bankers and governments can't manipulate for their own
> benefit

Tin as a hat may no longer be practical, as all metals are going up in
cost.

In article <5800fca1-7461-4f7b-87b4-025a8c2498db@z72g2000hsb.googlegroups . com >, MLOM wrote:
>On Apr 22, 9:15 pm, tetraethylleadREMOVET...@yahoo . com (Brent P)
>wrote:
>> In article <9c46de47-52af-4279-bda0-1c6908026...@x35g2000hsb.googlegroups . com >, MLOM wrote:
>> >On Apr 22, 7:58 pm, necromancer <55_sux@worldofnecromancer_NO-SPAM_NO-
>> >WAY . com > wrote:
>> >> Saw this article in another ng, thought the drivers here would find it
>> >> interesting and something to think about next time you fill up and pay
>> >> US$4.00 for the gallon: * tinyurl . com /6hl2p9
>>
>> >> --
>> >> I am necromancer and I approved this poast.
>>
>> >I heard an account of that in the local news.  Some of the
>> >interviewees mentioned greed in the futures market as a big factor.  I
>> >have been suspecting that since we first cracked $2.
>> >Also mentioned on the local news report was how investors were dumping
>> >other investments to jump into the oil market.  No wonder my 401K dove
>> >into the $#itcan the past 3 months.
>>
>> >I am MLOM and I endorse necromancer's post.
>>
>> Gasoline and oil prices are more or less stable in silver and gold.
>
>Not sure about silver and gold: both have been dropping (gold down
>from over $1,000/oz to just over $900, and silver down from $21 to
>around $18). I suspect that investors are now starting to dump silver
>and gold like they are dumping other stocks in order to continue
>jacking with oil.

There's some flux between them, but as of yesterday's close a 90% silver
quarter had a silver melt value of $3.09 and a 90% silver dime $1.24. So
gasoline is still less than 35 cents a gallon in US silver backed money.

On Tue, 22 Apr 2008 20:58:24 -0400, necromancer
<55_sux@worldofnecromancer_NO-SPAM_NO-WAY . com > blundered in writing:

>Saw this article in another ng, thought the drivers here would find it
>interesting and something to think about next time you fill up and pay
>US$4.00 for the gallon: * tinyurl . com /6hl2p9

My bad. That link will put you onto page 3 of the article.

Try this instead: * tinyurl . com /3666dt

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I am necromancer and I approved this poast.

In article <ta2t04tmscamfqukd8cpo6hf5j2vajrk6p@4ax . com >, necromancer wrote:
>Saw this article in another ng, thought the drivers here would find it
>interesting and something to think about next time you fill up and pay
>US$4.00 for the gallon: * tinyurl . com /6hl2p9

Newsweek is just figuring this out now? Those of us in the 'Tin Foil
Hat' community have known about refinery supply manipulations for years,
we've known about the cartel nature of the business where by forces like
supply and demand don't mater much, and we've known about the federal
reserve along with the bubbles it creates as it weakens the dollar. Oh
yeah and the market interventions with the ethanol mandates end up
distorting prices.

Well.... just another instance of yesterday's tin foil hattery being
today's mainstream news.

And before I forget... remember when the big tin-foil-hat types
announced the info they got with regards to what the bilderberg group
wanted oil to be priced at?

* w w w .americanfreepress . net /html/bilderberg_to_meet_in_canada.html

(Issue #22, May 29, 2006)

"Whether Bilderberg will call for still higher prices is unclear, but
Henry Kissinger and others had gleefully anticipated ultimate prices at
$150 a barrel a year ago. Bilderberg is certainly concerned about
supply, which is related to the .Latin American problem,. as one insider
said."

Brent P wrote:
> In article <ta2t04tmscamfqukd8cpo6hf5j2vajrk6p@4ax . com >, necromancer wrote:
>
>>Saw this article in another ng, thought the drivers here would find it
>>interesting and something to think about next time you fill up and pay
>>US$4.00 for the gallon: * tinyurl . com /6hl2p9
>
>
> Newsweek is just figuring this out now? Those of us in the 'Tin Foil
> Hat' community have known about refinery supply manipulations for years,
> we've known about the cartel nature of the business where by forces like
> supply and demand don't mater much, and we've known about the federal
> reserve along with the bubbles it creates as it weakens the dollar. Oh
> yeah and the market interventions with the ethanol mandates end up
> distorting prices.
>
> Well.... just another instance of yesterday's tin foil hattery being
> today's mainstream news.
>
> And before I forget... remember when the big tin-foil-hat types
> announced the info they got with regards to what the bilderberg group
> wanted oil to be priced at?
>
> * w w w .americanfreepress . net /html/bilderberg_to_meet_in_canada.html
>
> (Issue #22, May 29, 2006)
>
> "Whether Bilderberg will call for still higher prices is unclear, but
> Henry Kissinger and others had gleefully anticipated ultimate prices at
> $150 a barrel a year ago. Bilderberg is certainly concerned about
> supply, which is related to the .Latin American problem,. as one insider
> said."
>

As for ethanol, even the granola munching crowd has started to figure
out it's a bad deal, NPR was reporting today on the effect that ethanol
subsidies have had on food prices, which sucks for us, but really,
REALLY sucks for poor people. Now if we can just convince them that it
isn't worth doing unless it's energy positive...

nate


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replace "roosters" with "cox" to reply.
* members.cox . net /njnagel

In article <fum6ia0234u@news2.newsguy . com >, Nate Nagel wrote:

>As for ethanol, even the granola munching crowd has started to figure
>out it's a bad deal, NPR was reporting today on the effect that ethanol
>subsidies have had on food prices, which sucks for us, but really,
>REALLY sucks for poor people. Now if we can just convince them that it
>isn't worth doing unless it's energy positive...

Ethanol from corn and oil is just stupid. But it's the political process
and ADM might as well be an oil company.

I still believe ethanol made as a battery for solar, wind, geo-thermal,
etc is a fine idea. But with the government involved it's never going to
be done the right way. It will always be done some way that benefits a
connected group over a non-connected one.

On Tue, 22 Apr 2008 22:20:10 -0500, tetraethylleadREMOVETHIS@yahoo . com
(Brent P) wrote:

>In article <fum6ia0234u@news2.newsguy . com >, Nate Nagel wrote:
>
>>As for ethanol, even the granola munching crowd has started to figure
>>out it's a bad deal, NPR was reporting today on the effect that ethanol
>>subsidies have had on food prices, which sucks for us, but really,
>>REALLY sucks for poor people. Now if we can just convince them that it
>>isn't worth doing unless it's energy positive...
>
>Ethanol from corn and oil is just stupid. But it's the political process
>and ADM might as well be an oil company.

>I still believe ethanol made as a battery for solar, wind, geo-thermal,
>etc is a fine idea.

Haven't heard of this concept. Please elaborate....

> But with the government involved it's never going to
>be done the right way. It will always be done some way that benefits a
>connected group over a non-connected one.

Show mw something that government has done right besides start wars
and screw over the average joe.....

--
"I love this country...
...and the freedoms we used to have..."
--George Carlin

In article <mpit0417qt91n9fhos02jnlo1nfbjrr14k@4ax . com >, necromancer wrote:
>On Tue, 22 Apr 2008 22:20:10 -0500, tetraethylleadREMOVETHIS@yahoo . com
>(Brent P) wrote:
>
>>In article <fum6ia0234u@news2.newsguy . com >, Nate Nagel wrote:
>>
>>>As for ethanol, even the granola munching crowd has started to figure
>>>out it's a bad deal, NPR was reporting today on the effect that ethanol
>>>subsidies have had on food prices, which sucks for us, but really,
>>>REALLY sucks for poor people. Now if we can just convince them that it
>>>isn't worth doing unless it's energy positive...
>>
>>Ethanol from corn and oil is just stupid. But it's the political process
>>and ADM might as well be an oil company.
>
>>I still believe ethanol made as a battery for solar, wind, geo-thermal,
>>etc is a fine idea.
>
>Haven't heard of this concept. Please elaborate....

The problem with ethanol is that oil and other hydrocarbon fuels are
used to power the process to make it. That's where ethanol becomes an
energy loser. It would have been best just to make gasoline from the oil
in the first place. However, if that process were powered by an energy
source that is not workable in an automobile, say wind, the slight loss
of energy is not as big of deal because ethanol overcomes the problems
of electric cars. Although that just deals with the energy balance not
the kind of crops and where to grow them.

>> But with the government involved it's never going to
>>be done the right way. It will always be done some way that benefits a
>>connected group over a non-connected one.

>Show mw something that government has done right besides start wars
>and screw over the average joe.....

You're repeating yourself. The wars screw over the average joe.

On Apr 22, 11:20 pm, tetraethylleadREMOVET...@yahoo . com (Brent P)
wrote:
> In article <fum6ia02...@news2.newsguy . com >, Nate Nagel wrote:
> >As for ethanol, even the granola munching crowd has started to figure
> >out it's a bad deal, NPR was reporting today on the effect that ethanol
> >subsidies have had on food prices, which sucks for us, but really,
> >REALLY sucks for poor people. Now if we can just convince them that it
> >isn't worth doing unless it's energy positive...
>
> Ethanol from corn and oil is just stupid. But it's the political process
> and ADM might as well be an oil company.
>
> I still believe ethanol made as a battery for solar, wind, geo-thermal,
> etc is a fine idea. But with the government involved it's never going to
> be done the right way. It will always be done some way that benefits a
> connected group over a non-connected one.


I read that the high food prices are eroding resistance to genetically
engineered crops- Monsanto must be pleased that their plan, um, that
circumstances are working out.


Dave