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Old geezer crashes his car onto runway at Miami International Airport

Reply from: Does he have clearance, Clarence?
Date: 25 Apr 2008, 23:16
Old geezer crashes his car onto runway at Miami International Airport

* cbs4 . com /local/MIA.airport.suspicious.2.708361.html

MIA Security Breach: Man Drives Car On Runway
Apr 25, 2008 12:35 pm US/Eastern

MIAMI (CBS4) ? Airport security is no joke these days which is why
Miami-Dade police took an elderly man into custody after he drove his
car onto a runway at Miami International Airport on Friday morning.

According to police, a 73-year old man driving a 4-door black Chevy
Cobalt, drove through the main service gate at the southeast end of
the airport shortly after 8:30 a.m. The man crashed right through the
entry-arm gate, which was in the down position, and raced onto airport
property and onto runway 9.

"He was going at a high rate of speed we alerted our units as soon as
possible and they began chase," explained MIA Security Chief Ricardo
Fernandez.

The elderly driver actually drove for more than a mile on the runway
before Miami-Dade police were able to take him into custody.

A security guard stationed at the service gate, along with security
from the FAA tower, called police immediately after the man smashed
through the gate and began driving on the runway.

"He was under surveillance from the tower at all times and security
units were alerted immediately, as well as police, and he was
apprehended along the runway," said Fernandez.

The identity of the elderly driver has not been released. The man is
currently being detained and questioned and charges are pending.

The runway was closed for a short time but has since reopened and the
incident did not affect other airport traffic.


Reply from: free.tuneup@gmail . com
Date: 25 Apr 2008, 23:26
Re: Old geezer crashes his car onto runway at Miami International Airport

On Apr 25, 4:16 pm, "Does he have clearance, Clarence?"
<getthatgee...@offthe.run.way> wrote:
> * cbs4 . com /local/MIA.airport.suspicious.2.708361.html
>
> MIA Security Breach: Man Drives Car On Runway
> Apr 25, 2008 12:35 pm US/Eastern
>
> MIAMI (CBS4) ? Airport security is no joke these days which is why
> Miami-Dade police took an elderly man into custody after he drove his
> car onto a runway at Miami International Airport on Friday morning.
>
> According to police, a 73-year old man driving a 4-door black Chevy
> Cobalt, drove through the main service gate at the southeast end of
> the airport shortly after 8:30 a.m. The man crashed right through the
> entry-arm gate, which was in the down position, and raced onto airport
> property and onto runway 9.
>
> "He was going at a high rate of speed we alerted our units as soon as
> possible and they began chase," explained MIA Security Chief Ricardo
> Fernandez.
>
> The elderly driver actually drove for more than a mile on the runway
> before Miami-Dade police were able to take him into custody.
>
> A security guard stationed at the service gate, along with security
> from the FAA tower, called police immediately after the man smashed
> through the gate and began driving on the runway.
>
> "He was under surveillance from the tower at all times and security
> units were alerted immediately, as well as police, and he was
> apprehended along the runway," said Fernandez.
>
> The identity of the elderly driver has not been released. The man is
> currently being detained and questioned and charges are pending.
>
> The runway was closed for a short time but has since reopened and the
> incident did not affect other airport traffic.

Homeland Stupidity Dept have to justify the billions spent on them,to
sit around their finger up their ass.

Reply from: necromancer
Date: 26 Apr 2008, 02:48
Re: Old geezer crashes his car onto runway at Miami International Airport

On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 14:26:49 -0700 (PDT), "free.tuneup@gmail . com "
<free.tuneup@gmail . com > wrote:

>
>Homeland Stupidity Dept have to justify the billions spent on them,to
>sit around their finger up their ass.

DHS couldn't find their ass with both hands, much less insert a
finger.....

--
D epartment of
H ysterical
S creaming

Reply from: Brent P
Date: 26 Apr 2008, 05:21
Re: Old geezer crashes his car onto runway at Miami International Airport

In article <6779b742-04da-47d8-8dfc-637ddab6754f@l42g2000hsc.googlegroups . com >, free.tuneup@gmail . com wrote:

>Homeland Stupidity Dept have to justify the billions spent on them,to
>sit around their finger up their ass.

Um government benefits if someone causes havok by driving on to a
runway. After all, after each fsck up bigger budgets and new departments
follow.



Reply from: Bert Hyman
Date: 25 Apr 2008, 23:28
Re: Old geezer crashes his car onto runway at Miami International Airport

In news:q4i4149fpb60hi3bhp3uvte3lpv0nk2g5r@lga "Does he have clearance,
Clarence?" <getthatgeezer@offthe.run.way> wrote:

> The elderly driver actually drove for more than a mile on the runway
> before Miami-Dade police were able to take him into custody.

Well, you know what the police say?

"When seconds count, we'll be there in minutes."

--
Bert Hyman St. Paul, MN bert@iphouse . com

Reply from: Bob Fry
Date: 26 Apr 2008, 03:13
Re: Old geezer crashes his car onto runway at Miami International Airport

>>>>> "lsdkf" == Does he have clearance <Does> writes:

lsdkf> "He was going at a high rate of speed

Why do cops and reporters always say this.

--
If you ever crawl inside an old hollow log and go to sleep, and
while you're in there some guys come and seal up both ends and
then put it on a truck and take it to another city, boy, I don't
know what to tell you.
- Jack Handey

Reply from: Rog'
Date: 26 Apr 2008, 06:17
Re: Old geezer crashes his car onto runway at Miami International Airport

"Bob Fry" <bobfry@mailinator . com > wrote:
> lsdkf> "He was going at a high rate of speed
> Why do cops and reporters always say this.

Not always. Remember to OJ chase? True story...
Deputy: "I charged your client with Fleeing & Attempting to
Elude because, after I turned on my blue lights and siren,
he ran thru several stop signs and refused to stop."
Attorney: "How do you know that he knew it was he who
you were trying to stop?"
Deputy: "I was right on his tail and there was no other traffic."
Attorney: "How fast was he going?"
Deputy: "His highest speed was about 30 MPH."
Attorney: "Did you call for backup?"
Deputy: "No. I knew he would stop when he got home."




Reply from: Angelo Campanella
Date: 26 Apr 2008, 18:29
Re: Old geezer crashes his car onto runway at Miami International Airport


Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS wrote:
>>The identity of the elderly driver has not been released. The man is
>>currently being detained and questioned and charges are pending.
>>The runway was closed for a short time but has since reopened and the
>>incident did not affect other airport traffic.
> This crazy dangerous old nut should have his license taken away
> permanently. And if caught driving, lock him up forever.

You got it wrong.

The largest threat is tha the security folks might have opened fire and
shot a few folks. Since the vehicle was under full surveulance by the
tower personnel, they sensibly let it play out while keeping aircraft
out of the way.
The possibility that it was also a car bomb was moot as long as it was
clear of aircraft and occupied buildings, which seems to be the case. He
coud have been lost, drunk, or on drugs, or just "sowing his wild oats";
the last hurrah!

Ang. C.



Reply from: Ad absurdum per aspera
Date: 26 Apr 2008, 19:25
Re: Old geezer crashes his car onto runway at Miami International Airport

> > This crazy dangerous old nut should have his license taken away
> > permanently. And if caught driving, lock him up forever.
> You got it wrong.

You got the resident troll on rec.autos.driving (one wonders if he
even has a car and/or a driver's license) with his standard reaction
to any transgression. But never mind that.


> The largest threat is tha the security folks might have opened fire and
> shot a few folks.
> The possibility that it was also a car bomb was moot as long as it was
> clear of aircraft and occupied buildings, which seems to be the case.

Sounds well handled to me. Had anybody but a well trained rifleman
opened fire against the driver, the few people they'd have hit
probably wouldn't have included the intruder anyway. As is
unfortunately familiar from checkpoints in war zones. stopping a
*vehicle* moving at nontrivial speed with small arms fire isn't nearly
as easy as in the movies.

What they were standing ready to do if necessary, but chose not to do
and didn't see fit to tell anybody about, is another excellent
question.

It is fortunate that he didn't get onto an active runway at a place
and moment when a plane could *almost* reject a takeoff or landing.
There is a tiny but real probability that that could turn into a real
meatball for everyone concerned (and a rather higher risk of a closed
casket funeral for the ground vehicle). People who are supposed to
be driving around inside the fence at airports usually have most or
all of: training, a cheat sheet on the dashboard, yellow flashing
lights on the roof, a red-and-white checkered flag, and a radio with
which to talk to the tower. And blundering onto the active
probably gets them some new career options.

I doubt that even the security force at the airport gets to do *that*
without clearance. Much too easy to get into a situation where the
last thing that goes through your mind is a nosewheel.

> He coud have been lost, drunk, or on drugs, or just "sowing his wild oats," the last hurrah!

One always wonders about medical problems (regular or self inflicted)
when something like that happens. (A high-speed, no-evident-attempt-
to-stop tollboth accident in New Jersey a year or so ago, caught on
video, is one of several examples that come to mind.) The normal
response to punching a crossarm would be to stop and say, "ah, s."
within a few moments. If you keep going, either you're intentionally
behaving wrongly and badly, or there's something badly wrong. Heart
attack? stroke? diabetic crisis? Plenty of reasons one might think
of, some of them pretty innocent.

Cheers,
--Joe





Reply from: paul
Date: 26 Apr 2008, 19:55
Re: Old geezer crashes his car onto runway at Miami International Airport



ahhh, the joys of living in South Florida. Never a dull day thanks to
the geezers. When it isn't some little old Jewish lady plowing her
Crown Victoria through the bank lobby it's some old dude mowing down
the customers at Walgreens with his Lincoln Continental on his way to
pick up his Viagra refill.


Does he have clearance, Clarence? wrote:

> * cbs4 . com /local/MIA.airport.suspicious.2.708361.html
>
>MIA Security Breach: Man Drives Car On Runway
>Apr 25, 2008 12:35 pm US/Eastern
>
>MIAMI (CBS4) ? Airport security is no joke these days which is why
>Miami-Dade police took an elderly man into custody after he drove his
>car onto a runway at Miami International Airport on Friday morning.
>
>According to police, a 73-year old man driving a 4-door black Chevy
>Cobalt, drove through the main service gate at the southeast end of
>the airport shortly after 8:30 a.m. The man crashed right through the
>entry-arm gate, which was in the down position, and raced onto airport
>property and onto runway 9.
>
>"He was going at a high rate of speed we alerted our units as soon as
>possible and they began chase," explained MIA Security Chief Ricardo
>Fernandez.
>
>The elderly driver actually drove for more than a mile on the runway
>before Miami-Dade police were able to take him into custody.
>
>A security guard stationed at the service gate, along with security
>from the FAA tower, called police immediately after the man smashed
>through the gate and began driving on the runway.
>
>"He was under surveillance from the tower at all times and security
>units were alerted immediately, as well as police, and he was
>apprehended along the runway," said Fernandez.
>
>The identity of the elderly driver has not been released. The man is
>currently being detained and questioned and charges are pending.
>
>The runway was closed for a short time but has since reopened and the
>incident did not affect other airport traffic.

Reply from: California Poppy
Date: 26 Apr 2008, 20:12
Re: Old geezer crashes his car onto runway at Miami International Airport

Does anyone but me object to the fact that they called a 73-year-old
"elderly". We are about to elect a 71-year-old president which seems
old to me, but I had thought of "elderly" as those in their 80's and
90's.


Reply from: Brent P
Date: 26 Apr 2008, 21:06
Re: Old geezer crashes his car onto runway at Miami International Airport

In article <a2e2fb4f-c448-416e-bf6a-37dc2e8d9dac@v23g2000pro.googlegroups . com >, California Poppy wrote:
>Does anyone but me object to the fact that they called a 73-year-old
>"elderly". We are about to elect a 71-year-old president which seems
>old to me, but I had thought of "elderly" as those in their 80's and
>90's.

McCain's problem is not his age, its his sanity.



Reply from: Rog'
Date: 26 Apr 2008, 21:48
Re: Old geezer crashes his car onto runway at Miami International Airport

"Brent P" <tetraethylleadREMOVETHIS@yahoo . com > wrote:
> McCain's problem is not his age, its his sanity.

Yeah, but he's got a blond-bombshell of a wife who was a Southern
Cal cheerleader and owns (inherited) an Anheuser-Busch distributor.
I'm going to vote Dem this year, but if we voted based on spouses,
I'd go with the looker.



Reply from: Brent P
Date: 27 Apr 2008, 00:33
Re: Old geezer crashes his car onto runway at Miami International Airport

In article <_FLQj.33653$tG6.30909@bignews1.bellsouth . net >, Rog' wrote:
>"Brent P" <tetraethylleadREMOVETHIS@yahoo . com > wrote:
>> McCain's problem is not his age, its his sanity.
>
>Yeah, but he's got a blond-bombshell of a wife who was a Southern
>Cal cheerleader and owns (inherited) an Anheuser-Busch distributor.

Jesse Jackson conned his way into a distributorship.....

>I'm going to vote Dem this year, but if we voted based on spouses,
>I'd go with the looker.

Like the dems are significantly different on anything.... less likely to
throw nukes in a fit of rage I suppose....



Reply from: necromancer
Date: 27 Apr 2008, 01:44
Re: Old geezer crashes his car onto runway at Miami International Airport

On Sat, 26 Apr 2008 17:33:31 -0500, tetraethylleadREMOVETHIS@yahoo . com
(Brent P) wrote:

>
>
>Like the dems are significantly different on anything.... less likely to
>throw nukes in a fit of rage I suppose....

Or to invade sovergn nations with no justification....

--
"You can fool some of the people all the time,
and those are the ones you want to
concentrate on."
--Governor George W. Bush


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