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Complaints on cops...
In this news group we are often told we should just file a complaint on
a bad cop.
Seems the news media in FL decided to find out just how that would
work...
* cbs4 . com /topstories/Miami.News.CBS4.2.395528.html
<...>
"CBS4 News found that, in police departments across Miami-Dade and
Broward Counties, large and small, it was virtually impossible to walk
in the door, and walk out with a complaint form."
<...>
"After hearing our undercover video described, in which representatives
of different departments were seen refusing to supply complaint forms,
and at times, appearing to belittle or insult the undercover tester for
asking (see transcripts below), Timoney said at times the behavior
seemed inappropriate for his department's standards."
<...>
"In the I-team's undercover investigation, there was one incident in
which our tester went in to file a complaint. After several times asking
for a form, being told "you're not leaving without a form," he was asked
to leave and actually walked off the property, to the point where the
officer reached for his gun, put his hand on his gun and said, "Take a
step closer, and see what happens."."
> * cbs4 . com /topstories/Miami.News.CBS4.2.395528.html
>
> "In the I-team's undercover investigation, there was one incident in
> which our tester went in to file a complaint. After several times asking
> for a form, being told "you're not leaving without a form," he was asked
> to leave and actually walked off the property, to the point where the
> officer reached for his gun, put his hand on his gun and said, "Take a
> step closer, and see what happens."."
That cop is insane, another hothead that's likely to get himself killed.
>
> "In the I-team's undercover investigation, there was one incident in
> which our tester went in to file a complaint. After several times asking
> for a form, being told "you're not leaving without a form," he was asked
> to leave and actually walked off the property, to the point where the
> officer reached for his gun, put his hand on his gun and said, "Take a
> step closer, and see what happens."."
That cop is insane, another hothead that's likely to get himself killed.
On Thu, 01 May 2008 23:33:08 -0500, Brent P
<tetraethylleadREMOVETHIS@yahoo . com > wrote:
>
>In this news group we are often told we should just file a complaint on
>a bad cop.
>Seems the news media in FL decided to find out just how that would
>work...
Florida cops. Why am I not surprised.
> * cbs4 . com /topstories/Miami.News.CBS4.2.395528.html
>
><...>
>
>"CBS4 News found that, in police departments across Miami-Dade and
>Broward Counties, large and small, it was virtually impossible to walk
>in the door, and walk out with a complaint form."
>
><...>
>
>"After hearing our undercover video described, in which representatives
>of different departments were seen refusing to supply complaint forms,
>and at times, appearing to belittle or insult the undercover tester for
>asking (see transcripts below), Timoney said at times the behavior
>seemed inappropriate for his department's standards."
Trying to complain about a cop is like pissing into the wind. Its
going to come back to haunt you.
>
><...>
>
>"In the I-team's undercover investigation, there was one incident in
>which our tester went in to file a complaint. After several times asking
>for a form, being told "you're not leaving without a form," he was asked
>to leave and actually walked off the property, to the point where the
>officer reached for his gun, put his hand on his gun and said, "Take a
>step closer, and see what happens."."
>
Cop thinks he's Dirty Harry, does he. Typical Florida pig.
--
"Do we operate under a system of equal justice
under law? Or is there one system for the average
citizen and another for the high and mighty?"
--Senator Ted Kennedy
<tetraethylleadREMOVETHIS@yahoo . com > wrote:
>
>In this news group we are often told we should just file a complaint on
>a bad cop.
>Seems the news media in FL decided to find out just how that would
>work...
Florida cops. Why am I not surprised.
> * cbs4 . com /topstories/Miami.News.CBS4.2.395528.html
>
><...>
>
>"CBS4 News found that, in police departments across Miami-Dade and
>Broward Counties, large and small, it was virtually impossible to walk
>in the door, and walk out with a complaint form."
>
><...>
>
>"After hearing our undercover video described, in which representatives
>of different departments were seen refusing to supply complaint forms,
>and at times, appearing to belittle or insult the undercover tester for
>asking (see transcripts below), Timoney said at times the behavior
>seemed inappropriate for his department's standards."
Trying to complain about a cop is like pissing into the wind. Its
going to come back to haunt you.
>
><...>
>
>"In the I-team's undercover investigation, there was one incident in
>which our tester went in to file a complaint. After several times asking
>for a form, being told "you're not leaving without a form," he was asked
>to leave and actually walked off the property, to the point where the
>officer reached for his gun, put his hand on his gun and said, "Take a
>step closer, and see what happens."."
>
Cop thinks he's Dirty Harry, does he. Typical Florida pig.
--
"Do we operate under a system of equal justice
under law? Or is there one system for the average
citizen and another for the high and mighty?"
--Senator Ted Kennedy
Brent P wrote:
> In this news group we are often told we should just file a complaint on
> a bad cop.
> Seems the news media in FL decided to find out just how that would
> work...
>
> * cbs4 . com /topstories/Miami.News.CBS4.2.395528.html
>
> <...>
>
> "CBS4 News found that, in police departments across Miami-Dade and
> Broward Counties, large and small, it was virtually impossible to walk
> in the door, and walk out with a complaint form."
>
> <...>
>
> "After hearing our undercover video described, in which representatives
> of different departments were seen refusing to supply complaint forms,
> and at times, appearing to belittle or insult the undercover tester for
> asking (see transcripts below), Timoney said at times the behavior
> seemed inappropriate for his department's standards."
>
> <...>
>
> "In the I-team's undercover investigation, there was one incident in
> which our tester went in to file a complaint. After several times asking
> for a form, being told "you're not leaving without a form," he was asked
> to leave and actually walked off the property, to the point where the
> officer reached for his gun, put his hand on his gun and said, "Take a
> step closer, and see what happens."."
In the UK (and in some other countries) there is an independent Police
Complaints Commision.
* w w w .ipcc.gov.uk/
I read that there's still some indication of leniency towards the police
however.
Graham
In article <481C6718.A01E77AB@hotmail . com >,
Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail . com > wrote:
>
>
>In the UK (and in some other countries) there is an independent Police
>Complaints Commision.
> * w w w .ipcc.gov.uk/
>
>I read that there's still some indication of leniency towards the police
>however.
The reason for a complaints department is not to resolve complaints.
It is to let the complainer feel like something is being done, when
actually nothing has been done, in order to keep him from doing
anything more effective.
--
There's no such thing as a free lunch, but certain accounting practices can
result in a fully-depreciated one.
Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail . com > wrote:
>
>
>In the UK (and in some other countries) there is an independent Police
>Complaints Commision.
> * w w w .ipcc.gov.uk/
>
>I read that there's still some indication of leniency towards the police
>however.
The reason for a complaints department is not to resolve complaints.
It is to let the complainer feel like something is being done, when
actually nothing has been done, in order to keep him from doing
anything more effective.
--
There's no such thing as a free lunch, but certain accounting practices can
result in a fully-depreciated one.
On 2008-05-03, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail . com > wrote:
>
>
> Brent P wrote:
>
>> In this news group we are often told we should just file a complaint on
>> a bad cop.
>> Seems the news media in FL decided to find out just how that would
>> work...
>>
>> * cbs4 . com /topstories/Miami.News.CBS4.2.395528.html
>>
>> <...>
>>
>> "CBS4 News found that, in police departments across Miami-Dade and
>> Broward Counties, large and small, it was virtually impossible to walk
>> in the door, and walk out with a complaint form."
>>
>> <...>
>>
>> "After hearing our undercover video described, in which representatives
>> of different departments were seen refusing to supply complaint forms,
>> and at times, appearing to belittle or insult the undercover tester for
>> asking (see transcripts below), Timoney said at times the behavior
>> seemed inappropriate for his department's standards."
>>
>> <...>
>>
>> "In the I-team's undercover investigation, there was one incident in
>> which our tester went in to file a complaint. After several times asking
>> for a form, being told "you're not leaving without a form," he was asked
>> to leave and actually walked off the property, to the point where the
>> officer reached for his gun, put his hand on his gun and said, "Take a
>> step closer, and see what happens."."
>
> In the UK (and in some other countries) there is an independent Police
> Complaints Commision.
> * w w w .ipcc.gov.uk/
>
> I read that there's still some indication of leniency towards the police
> however.
Like when they gunned down that guy in the tube and lost the tapes?
>
>
> Brent P wrote:
>
>> In this news group we are often told we should just file a complaint on
>> a bad cop.
>> Seems the news media in FL decided to find out just how that would
>> work...
>>
>> * cbs4 . com /topstories/Miami.News.CBS4.2.395528.html
>>
>> <...>
>>
>> "CBS4 News found that, in police departments across Miami-Dade and
>> Broward Counties, large and small, it was virtually impossible to walk
>> in the door, and walk out with a complaint form."
>>
>> <...>
>>
>> "After hearing our undercover video described, in which representatives
>> of different departments were seen refusing to supply complaint forms,
>> and at times, appearing to belittle or insult the undercover tester for
>> asking (see transcripts below), Timoney said at times the behavior
>> seemed inappropriate for his department's standards."
>>
>> <...>
>>
>> "In the I-team's undercover investigation, there was one incident in
>> which our tester went in to file a complaint. After several times asking
>> for a form, being told "you're not leaving without a form," he was asked
>> to leave and actually walked off the property, to the point where the
>> officer reached for his gun, put his hand on his gun and said, "Take a
>> step closer, and see what happens."."
>
> In the UK (and in some other countries) there is an independent Police
> Complaints Commision.
> * w w w .ipcc.gov.uk/
>
> I read that there's still some indication of leniency towards the police
> however.
Like when they gunned down that guy in the tube and lost the tapes?
On May 1, 9:33 pm, Brent P <tetraethylleadREMOVET...@yahoo . com > wrote:
> In this news group we are often told we should just file a complaint on
> a bad cop.
> Seems the news media in FL decided to find out just how that would
> work...
And in Spokane, Wa, after several _really_ questionable incidents the
past couple years, the mayor and coucil decided they had better in
stall a citizen's oversight committee that could review complaints.
After months of study, etc., they put on the table their proposal for
one.
Citizen's laughed it right back in their laps. It basically set it up
so that the cop's union could overule any finding made. It is back
under study.
Harry K
> In this news group we are often told we should just file a complaint on
> a bad cop.
> Seems the news media in FL decided to find out just how that would
> work...
And in Spokane, Wa, after several _really_ questionable incidents the
past couple years, the mayor and coucil decided they had better in
stall a citizen's oversight committee that could review complaints.
After months of study, etc., they put on the table their proposal for
one.
Citizen's laughed it right back in their laps. It basically set it up
so that the cop's union could overule any finding made. It is back
under study.
Harry K
In article <b-2dnaGSUJcZBIfVnZ2dnUVZ_qGknZ2d@comcast . com >,
Brent P <tetraethylleadREMOVETHIS@yahoo . com > wrote:
>
>In this news group we are often told we should just file a complaint on
>a bad cop.
>Seems the news media in FL decided to find out just how that would
>work...
>
> * cbs4 . com /topstories/Miami.News.CBS4.2.395528.html
>
><...>
>
>"CBS4 News found that, in police departments across Miami-Dade and
>Broward Counties, large and small, it was virtually impossible to walk
>in the door, and walk out with a complaint form."
>
><...>
>
>"After hearing our undercover video described, in which representatives
>of different departments were seen refusing to supply complaint forms,
>and at times, appearing to belittle or insult the undercover tester for
>asking (see transcripts below), Timoney said at times the behavior
>seemed inappropriate for his department's standards."
Timoney? Former head bad cop in Philly? Yeah, there's a surprise.
--
There's no such thing as a free lunch, but certain accounting practices can
result in a fully-depreciated one.
Brent P <tetraethylleadREMOVETHIS@yahoo . com > wrote:
>
>In this news group we are often told we should just file a complaint on
>a bad cop.
>Seems the news media in FL decided to find out just how that would
>work...
>
> * cbs4 . com /topstories/Miami.News.CBS4.2.395528.html
>
><...>
>
>"CBS4 News found that, in police departments across Miami-Dade and
>Broward Counties, large and small, it was virtually impossible to walk
>in the door, and walk out with a complaint form."
>
><...>
>
>"After hearing our undercover video described, in which representatives
>of different departments were seen refusing to supply complaint forms,
>and at times, appearing to belittle or insult the undercover tester for
>asking (see transcripts below), Timoney said at times the behavior
>seemed inappropriate for his department's standards."
Timoney? Former head bad cop in Philly? Yeah, there's a surprise.
--
There's no such thing as a free lunch, but certain accounting practices can
result in a fully-depreciated one.
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