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Open letter to drivers
Open letter to drivers
Dear DC area fuckw^H^H^H^H^Hdriver,
Your vehicle is not equipped with directional signals on its side.
Therefore, when you are planning on forcing your way in front of me, I
have no indication whatsoever of your intentions unless I can actually
see the lights with which your vehicle *is* equipped. Please keep this
in mind and pull far enough in front of my car that I can actually see
your rear light cluster.
Thank you for your cooperation.
nate
PS - A green light is traditionally a signal to proceed forward.
PPS - There is a difference between the different lanes of a freeway.
Please feel free to respond if you require an explanation.
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* members.cox . net /njnagel
Dear DC area fuckw^H^H^H^H^Hdriver,
Your vehicle is not equipped with directional signals on its side.
Therefore, when you are planning on forcing your way in front of me, I
have no indication whatsoever of your intentions unless I can actually
see the lights with which your vehicle *is* equipped. Please keep this
in mind and pull far enough in front of my car that I can actually see
your rear light cluster.
Thank you for your cooperation.
nate
PS - A green light is traditionally a signal to proceed forward.
PPS - There is a difference between the different lanes of a freeway.
Please feel free to respond if you require an explanation.
--
replace "roosters" with "cox" to reply.
* members.cox . net /njnagel
Re: Open letter to drivers
> Your vehicle is not equipped with directional signals on its side.
...although there's no good reason why it shouldn't be. Mercedes and
a few others had that feature when I was knee-high to a spare tire,
and some of today's vehicles have an IMHO better implementation --
hidden behind the face of, or better yet built into the outboard edge
of, the mirrors.
Of course, that doesn't mean there's time and room for the maneuver
being signaled. They still have to think far enough ahead to
identify and get into a suitable gap, and this is beyond some
drivers.
Many of whom use the turn signal more as a victory dance than as an
announcement or request, anyway. (If they use it at all, and if they
have checked in recent years to see if its bulbs have burned out...)
--Joe
> Your vehicle is not equipped with directional signals on its side.
...although there's no good reason why it shouldn't be. Mercedes and
a few others had that feature when I was knee-high to a spare tire,
and some of today's vehicles have an IMHO better implementation --
hidden behind the face of, or better yet built into the outboard edge
of, the mirrors.
Of course, that doesn't mean there's time and room for the maneuver
being signaled. They still have to think far enough ahead to
identify and get into a suitable gap, and this is beyond some
drivers.
Many of whom use the turn signal more as a victory dance than as an
announcement or request, anyway. (If they use it at all, and if they
have checked in recent years to see if its bulbs have burned out...)
--Joe
Re: Open letter to drivers
On May 2, 9:06 pm, Ad absurdum per aspera <jtc...@california . com >
wrote:
> > Your vehicle is not equipped with directional signals on its side.
>
> ...although there's no good reason why it shouldn't be. Mercedes and
> a few others had that feature when I was knee-high to a spare tire,
> and some of today's vehicles have an IMHO better implementation --
> hidden behind the face of, or better yet built into the outboard edge
> of, the mirrors.
>
> Of course, that doesn't mean there's time and room for the maneuver
> being signaled. They still have to think far enough ahead to
> identify and get into a suitable gap, and this is beyond some
> drivers.
I'm not talking about those people, I'm talking about people who wish
to change lanes in heavy traffic when no gap exists, who are using
their signals as a request for someone to open a gap for them. Seems
to be happening to me more and more recently, car will draw abreast of
me or slightly ahead, driver wishes to change lanes in front of me so
flips on signal. What he doesn't realize is that his signal is hidden
by my A-pillar and or driver's door so he thinks I'm blocking him out,
then moves over forcing me to brake hard, when I finally see that he's
had his signal on. Usually accompanied by a hand gesture that I
assume means "you're number one!"
Of course, I don't have any other cues that they're wishing to change
lanes, as this generally happens when there's a whole mess of lanes of
traffic all moving in the same direction at about the same (slow)
speed.
> Many of whom use the turn signal more as a victory dance than as an
> announcement or request, anyway. (If they use it at all, and if they
> have checked in recent years to see if its bulbs have burned out...)
Doesn't bother me so much as long as there's room for them to move in
front of me. I've had people cut me off without signalling at all
with only inches to spare...
And then of course there's the jackasses that will wait until the last
possible moment to exit, because through traffic is moving faster than
the exit that splits off to the right, so they'll stay in the
rightmost through lane until they're almost to the gore and then stop
dead and sit there with their blinker on until some "nice" person lets
them in. Despite the fact that the split was signed 3/4 of a mile
back. Oh for a hood mounted RPG launcher. I usually get stuck behind
at least 2-3 of these assholes every day as in the specific location
I'm thinking of I want to take the very next exit after the split so
I'm also in the rightmost through lane.
nate
On May 2, 9:06 pm, Ad absurdum per aspera <jtc...@california . com >
wrote:
> > Your vehicle is not equipped with directional signals on its side.
>
> ...although there's no good reason why it shouldn't be. Mercedes and
> a few others had that feature when I was knee-high to a spare tire,
> and some of today's vehicles have an IMHO better implementation --
> hidden behind the face of, or better yet built into the outboard edge
> of, the mirrors.
>
> Of course, that doesn't mean there's time and room for the maneuver
> being signaled. They still have to think far enough ahead to
> identify and get into a suitable gap, and this is beyond some
> drivers.
I'm not talking about those people, I'm talking about people who wish
to change lanes in heavy traffic when no gap exists, who are using
their signals as a request for someone to open a gap for them. Seems
to be happening to me more and more recently, car will draw abreast of
me or slightly ahead, driver wishes to change lanes in front of me so
flips on signal. What he doesn't realize is that his signal is hidden
by my A-pillar and or driver's door so he thinks I'm blocking him out,
then moves over forcing me to brake hard, when I finally see that he's
had his signal on. Usually accompanied by a hand gesture that I
assume means "you're number one!"
Of course, I don't have any other cues that they're wishing to change
lanes, as this generally happens when there's a whole mess of lanes of
traffic all moving in the same direction at about the same (slow)
speed.
> Many of whom use the turn signal more as a victory dance than as an
> announcement or request, anyway. (If they use it at all, and if they
> have checked in recent years to see if its bulbs have burned out...)
Doesn't bother me so much as long as there's room for them to move in
front of me. I've had people cut me off without signalling at all
with only inches to spare...
And then of course there's the jackasses that will wait until the last
possible moment to exit, because through traffic is moving faster than
the exit that splits off to the right, so they'll stay in the
rightmost through lane until they're almost to the gore and then stop
dead and sit there with their blinker on until some "nice" person lets
them in. Despite the fact that the split was signed 3/4 of a mile
back. Oh for a hood mounted RPG launcher. I usually get stuck behind
at least 2-3 of these assholes every day as in the specific location
I'm thinking of I want to take the very next exit after the split so
I'm also in the rightmost through lane.
nate
Re: Open letter to drivers
On May 7, 11:18 am, N8N <njna...@hotmail . com > wrote:
>
> I'm not talking about those people, I'm talking about people who wish
> to change lanes in heavy traffic when no gap exists, who are using
> their signals as a request for someone to open a gap for them.
I guess you've never done that...?
> Seems
> to be happening to me more and more recently, car will draw abreast of
> me or slightly ahead, driver wishes to change lanes in front of me so
> flips on signal. What he doesn't realize is that his signal is hidden
> by my A-pillar and or driver's door so he thinks I'm blocking him out,
> then moves over forcing me to brake hard, when I finally see that he's
> had his signal on.
Now THAT'S funny!
> Usually accompanied by a hand gesture that I
> assume means "you're number one!"
A guess at your IQ, possibly...?
> Of course, I don't have any other cues that they're wishing to change
> lanes,
Cue Scott and/or Brent to explain how they know what is going through
the minds of their fellow drivers.
> Doesn't bother me so much as long as there's room for them to move in
> front of me.
Perhaps you can devise a signal for drivers to indicate they wish for
the driver to their front to increase their distance of precedence.
Other than that, the solution seems completely out of reach.
> I've had people cut me off without signalling at all
> with only inches to spare...
>
> And then of course there's the jackasses that will wait until the last
> possible moment to exit, because through traffic is moving faster than
> the exit that splits off to the right, so they'll stay in the
> rightmost through lane until they're almost to the gore and then stop
> dead and sit there with their blinker on until some "nice" person lets
> them in. Despite the fact that the split was signed 3/4 of a mile
> back.
Damn those "sloths", always fucking up traffic.
-----
- gpsman
On May 7, 11:18 am, N8N <njna...@hotmail . com > wrote:
>
> I'm not talking about those people, I'm talking about people who wish
> to change lanes in heavy traffic when no gap exists, who are using
> their signals as a request for someone to open a gap for them.
I guess you've never done that...?
> Seems
> to be happening to me more and more recently, car will draw abreast of
> me or slightly ahead, driver wishes to change lanes in front of me so
> flips on signal. What he doesn't realize is that his signal is hidden
> by my A-pillar and or driver's door so he thinks I'm blocking him out,
> then moves over forcing me to brake hard, when I finally see that he's
> had his signal on.
Now THAT'S funny!
> Usually accompanied by a hand gesture that I
> assume means "you're number one!"
A guess at your IQ, possibly...?
> Of course, I don't have any other cues that they're wishing to change
> lanes,
Cue Scott and/or Brent to explain how they know what is going through
the minds of their fellow drivers.
> Doesn't bother me so much as long as there's room for them to move in
> front of me.
Perhaps you can devise a signal for drivers to indicate they wish for
the driver to their front to increase their distance of precedence.
Other than that, the solution seems completely out of reach.
> I've had people cut me off without signalling at all
> with only inches to spare...
>
> And then of course there's the jackasses that will wait until the last
> possible moment to exit, because through traffic is moving faster than
> the exit that splits off to the right, so they'll stay in the
> rightmost through lane until they're almost to the gore and then stop
> dead and sit there with their blinker on until some "nice" person lets
> them in. Despite the fact that the split was signed 3/4 of a mile
> back.
Damn those "sloths", always fucking up traffic.
-----
- gpsman
Re: Open letter to drivers
On May 7, 1:16 pm, gpsman <gps...@driversmail . com > wrote:
> On May 7, 11:18 am, N8N <njna...@hotmail . com > wrote:
>
>
>
> > I'm not talking about those people, I'm talking about people who wish
> > to change lanes in heavy traffic when no gap exists, who are using
> > their signals as a request for someone to open a gap for them.
>
> I guess you've never done that...?
No, no I haven't, because even that alone, even if done "correctly" is
rude and a sign of poor driving or situational awareness.
The rest of your troll spew was ignored, unread, and will continue to
be treated in a similar manner from here on out unless/until you can
start posting something 1) relevant and 2) intelligent.
nate
On May 7, 1:16 pm, gpsman <gps...@driversmail . com > wrote:
> On May 7, 11:18 am, N8N <njna...@hotmail . com > wrote:
>
>
>
> > I'm not talking about those people, I'm talking about people who wish
> > to change lanes in heavy traffic when no gap exists, who are using
> > their signals as a request for someone to open a gap for them.
>
> I guess you've never done that...?
No, no I haven't, because even that alone, even if done "correctly" is
rude and a sign of poor driving or situational awareness.
The rest of your troll spew was ignored, unread, and will continue to
be treated in a similar manner from here on out unless/until you can
start posting something 1) relevant and 2) intelligent.
nate
Re: Open letter to drivers
On May 7, 1:43 pm, N8N <njna...@hotmail . com > wrote:
> On May 7, 1:16 pm, gpsman <gps...@driversmail . com > wrote:
>
> > On May 7, 11:18 am, N8N <njna...@hotmail . com > wrote:
>
> > > I'm not talking about those people, I'm talking about people who wish
> > > to change lanes in heavy traffic when no gap exists, who are using
> > > their signals as a request for someone to open a gap for them.
>
> > I guess you've never done that...?
>
> No, no I haven't,
Never...?!
> because even that alone, even if done "correctly" is
> rude and a sign of poor driving or situational awareness.
Said the guy who won't leave a gap large enough to comfortably
accommodate a single vehicle.
> The rest of your troll spew was ignored, unread,
Occam's Razor suggests you're either so stupid you think a simple
question is "troll spew", or you're lying.
No, wait, it suggests both.
> and will continue to
> be treated in a similar manner from here on out unless/until you can
> start posting something 1) relevant and 2) intelligent.
Boo hoo.
Beyond posting any drivel you consider driving expertise, your further
participation is no longer required.
Here we see your pitiful attempt at ad hominem, then further avoidance
of any relevant issue.
Not your fault, huh?
-----
- gpsman
On May 7, 1:43 pm, N8N <njna...@hotmail . com > wrote:
> On May 7, 1:16 pm, gpsman <gps...@driversmail . com > wrote:
>
> > On May 7, 11:18 am, N8N <njna...@hotmail . com > wrote:
>
> > > I'm not talking about those people, I'm talking about people who wish
> > > to change lanes in heavy traffic when no gap exists, who are using
> > > their signals as a request for someone to open a gap for them.
>
> > I guess you've never done that...?
>
> No, no I haven't,
Never...?!
> because even that alone, even if done "correctly" is
> rude and a sign of poor driving or situational awareness.
Said the guy who won't leave a gap large enough to comfortably
accommodate a single vehicle.
> The rest of your troll spew was ignored, unread,
Occam's Razor suggests you're either so stupid you think a simple
question is "troll spew", or you're lying.
No, wait, it suggests both.
> and will continue to
> be treated in a similar manner from here on out unless/until you can
> start posting something 1) relevant and 2) intelligent.
Boo hoo.
Beyond posting any drivel you consider driving expertise, your further
participation is no longer required.
Here we see your pitiful attempt at ad hominem, then further avoidance
of any relevant issue.
Not your fault, huh?
-----
- gpsman
Re: Open letter to drivers
gpsman wrote:
(troll, troll, troll your boat)
Hey fuckwit, don't you get it? Nobody takes your crap seriously. Your
act is stale. No fish are biting today.
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* members.cox . net /njnagel
gpsman wrote:
(troll, troll, troll your boat)
Hey fuckwit, don't you get it? Nobody takes your crap seriously. Your
act is stale. No fish are biting today.
--
replace "roosters" with "cox" to reply.
* members.cox . net /njnagel
Re: Open letter to drivers
On May 7, 8:51 pm, Nate Nagel <njna...@roosters . net > wrote:
> gpsman wrote:
>
> (troll, troll, troll your boat)
>
> Hey fuckwit, don't you get it? Nobody takes your crap seriously.
Except you...?
> Your act is stale. No fish are biting today.
Except you...?!
Does the irony of "fish" responding to a troll's troll to call
"Troll!" escape you?
I guess we see things differently. When I see a fish respond to a
troll with "Troll!", I see an idiot who is either lying, they don't
consider the "accused" a troll, or they're too stupid to put the troll
in their killfile.
You seem to see it as a witty and insightful riposte.
C'est la vie.
AAR, you seem confused. The point is not to elicit responses, it's
just to illuminate that you do not know shit about driving and often
blame others for the "problems" you experience that are mostly of your
own making.
For an example of how to discourage people from changing lanes too
close to your front for comfort while driving in slow traffic see:
* video.google . com /videoplay?docid'93026662356344647
Again, after your initial post your participation becomes completely
unnecessary, I'll take it from there. Then, what else really needs to
be said?
Ad hominem, changing/avoiding the subject... those aren't effective
arguments so I don't see why you even bother.
-----
- gpsman
On May 7, 8:51 pm, Nate Nagel <njna...@roosters . net > wrote:
> gpsman wrote:
>
> (troll, troll, troll your boat)
>
> Hey fuckwit, don't you get it? Nobody takes your crap seriously.
Except you...?
> Your act is stale. No fish are biting today.
Except you...?!
Does the irony of "fish" responding to a troll's troll to call
"Troll!" escape you?
I guess we see things differently. When I see a fish respond to a
troll with "Troll!", I see an idiot who is either lying, they don't
consider the "accused" a troll, or they're too stupid to put the troll
in their killfile.
You seem to see it as a witty and insightful riposte.
C'est la vie.
AAR, you seem confused. The point is not to elicit responses, it's
just to illuminate that you do not know shit about driving and often
blame others for the "problems" you experience that are mostly of your
own making.
For an example of how to discourage people from changing lanes too
close to your front for comfort while driving in slow traffic see:
* video.google . com /videoplay?docid'93026662356344647
Again, after your initial post your participation becomes completely
unnecessary, I'll take it from there. Then, what else really needs to
be said?
Ad hominem, changing/avoiding the subject... those aren't effective
arguments so I don't see why you even bother.
-----
- gpsman
Re: Open letter to drivers
gpsman wrote:
> On May 7, 8:51 pm, Nate Nagel <njna...@roosters . net > wrote:
>
>>gpsman wrote:
>>
>>(troll, troll, troll your boat)
>>
>>Hey fuckwit, don't you get it? Nobody takes your crap seriously.
>
>
> Except you...?
No, not even I. I find it hard to believe that even you take the crap
you post seriously, it's so ludicrously nonsensical. Which prompts the
question, why bother?
(rest skipped, unread.)
nate
--
replace "roosters" with "cox" to reply.
* members.cox . net /njnagel
gpsman wrote:
> On May 7, 8:51 pm, Nate Nagel <njna...@roosters . net > wrote:
>
>>gpsman wrote:
>>
>>(troll, troll, troll your boat)
>>
>>Hey fuckwit, don't you get it? Nobody takes your crap seriously.
>
>
> Except you...?
No, not even I. I find it hard to believe that even you take the crap
you post seriously, it's so ludicrously nonsensical. Which prompts the
question, why bother?
(rest skipped, unread.)
nate
--
replace "roosters" with "cox" to reply.
* members.cox . net /njnagel
Re: Open letter to drivers
Nate Nagel wrote:
> Dear DC area fuckw^H^H^H^H^Hdriver,
>
> Your vehicle is not equipped with directional signals on its side.
You don't have 'repeaters' in the USA ? Sigh.
Graham
Nate Nagel wrote:
> Dear DC area fuckw^H^H^H^H^Hdriver,
>
> Your vehicle is not equipped with directional signals on its side.
You don't have 'repeaters' in the USA ? Sigh.
Graham
Re: Open letter to drivers
On Sat, 03 May 2008 02:31:15 +0100, Eeyore wrote:
> Nate Nagel wrote:
>
>> Dear DC area fuckw^H^H^H^H^Hdriver,
>>
>> Your vehicle is not equipped with directional signals on its side.
>
> You don't have 'repeaters' in the USA ? Sigh.
>
> Graham
A backward lot aren't they! Still don't have E-code headlights either.
On Sat, 03 May 2008 02:31:15 +0100, Eeyore wrote:
> Nate Nagel wrote:
>
>> Dear DC area fuckw^H^H^H^H^Hdriver,
>>
>> Your vehicle is not equipped with directional signals on its side.
>
> You don't have 'repeaters' in the USA ? Sigh.
>
> Graham
A backward lot aren't they! Still don't have E-code headlights either.
Re: Open letter to drivers
On May 2, 9:49 pm, "." <d...@dotmail . com > wrote:
> A backward lot aren't they! Still don't have E-code headlights either.
Who doesn't? I do. =:^P
--
C.R. Krieger
On May 2, 9:49 pm, "." <d...@dotmail . com > wrote:
> A backward lot aren't they! Still don't have E-code headlights either.
Who doesn't? I do. =:^P
--
C.R. Krieger
Re: Open letter to drivers
On May 7, 3:45 pm, Motorhead Lawyer <88.53...@gmail . com > wrote:
> On May 2, 9:49 pm, "." <d...@dotmail . com > wrote:
>
> > A backward lot aren't they! Still don't have E-code headlights either.
>
> Who doesn't? I do. =:^P
> --
> C.R. Krieger
Me too! Two sets! :)
nate
On May 7, 3:45 pm, Motorhead Lawyer <88.53...@gmail . com > wrote:
> On May 2, 9:49 pm, "." <d...@dotmail . com > wrote:
>
> > A backward lot aren't they! Still don't have E-code headlights either.
>
> Who doesn't? I do. =:^P
> --
> C.R. Krieger
Me too! Two sets! :)
nate
Re: Open letter to drivers
Nate Nagel <njnagel@roosters . net > wrote in
news:fvg2i502dqm@news2.newsguy . com :
> Dear DC area fuckw^H^H^H^H^Hdriver,
>
> Your vehicle is not equipped with directional signals on its side.
8-)
many newer vehicles DO have side turn signals....some on the outside
rearview mirrors,that are visible from the side,front and rear.
> Therefore, when you are planning on forcing your way in front of me, I
> have no indication whatsoever of your intentions unless I can actually
> see the lights with which your vehicle *is* equipped.
Often,you can tell a car is going to change lanes because they drift/edge
over,and maybe the driver is checking their rear view mirror(but not
looking to their immediate left or right! Particularly SUVs and PU's.)
> Please keep this
> in mind and pull far enough in front of my car that I can actually see
> your rear light cluster.
>
> Thank you for your cooperation.
>
> nate
>
> PS - A green light is traditionally a signal to proceed forward.
> PPS - There is a difference between the different lanes of a freeway.
> Please feel free to respond if you require an explanation.
>
--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua . net
Nate Nagel <njnagel@roosters . net > wrote in
news:fvg2i502dqm@news2.newsguy . com :
> Dear DC area fuckw^H^H^H^H^Hdriver,
>
> Your vehicle is not equipped with directional signals on its side.
8-)
many newer vehicles DO have side turn signals....some on the outside
rearview mirrors,that are visible from the side,front and rear.
> Therefore, when you are planning on forcing your way in front of me, I
> have no indication whatsoever of your intentions unless I can actually
> see the lights with which your vehicle *is* equipped.
Often,you can tell a car is going to change lanes because they drift/edge
over,and maybe the driver is checking their rear view mirror(but not
looking to their immediate left or right! Particularly SUVs and PU's.)
> Please keep this
> in mind and pull far enough in front of my car that I can actually see
> your rear light cluster.
>
> Thank you for your cooperation.
>
> nate
>
> PS - A green light is traditionally a signal to proceed forward.
> PPS - There is a difference between the different lanes of a freeway.
> Please feel free to respond if you require an explanation.
>
--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua . net
Re: Open letter to drivers
In article <Xns9A92DEA986840jyanikkuanet@64.209.0.85>,
Jim Yanik <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote:
>many newer vehicles DO have side turn signals....some on the outside
>rearview mirrors,that are visible from the side,front and rear.
Of course, the presence of turn signals on a vehicle does not mean that
they will be used.
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In article <Xns9A92DEA986840jyanikkuanet@64.209.0.85>,
Jim Yanik <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote:
>many newer vehicles DO have side turn signals....some on the outside
>rearview mirrors,that are visible from the side,front and rear.
Of course, the presence of turn signals on a vehicle does not mean that
they will be used.
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Timothy J. Lee
Unsolicited bulk or commercial email is not welcome.
No warranty of any kind is provided with this message.
