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Aunt Judy's least favorite legislation?

Reply from: MLOM
Date: 09 May 2008, 01:23
Aunt Judy's least favorite legislation?

Spotted in another newsgroup:

* w w w .thenewspaper . com /news/23/2356.asp

(entire article posted)


"Speed limits are set to rise in the coming weeks in both Utah and
Dallas, Texas. The Utah Department of Transportation has now been
granted full legal authority to set the maximum speed limit on a test
stretch of Interstate 15 according to recognized engineering safety
standards, including a consideration of the actual speed at which the
majority of traffic is moving in safety. As the road is already
posted
at 75 MPH, this means the agency could either choose to join Texas in
posting an 80 MPH speed limit or become the nation's fastest road by
setting an 85 MPH limit. Governor Jon Huntsman, Jr. (R) signed the
legislation authorizing the speed limit increase on March 18.


In Dallas, the North Texas Tollway Authority plans to increase the
maximum speed limit on large stretches of the Bush Turnpike and
Dallas
North Tollway from 60 to 70 MPH. A series of investigative reports by
WFAA-TV over the past six months had revealed that the authority
violated state laws requiring that speed limits be set according to
recognized engineering safety standards. The authority never
conducted
any such studies.


The artificially low speed limits turned the 22.5 miles of toll road
into a bonanza for the cities in their path, including Dallas,
Frisco,
Garland, Irving and Plano. With just four miles of toll road under
its
jurisdiction, Irving police issued $375,000 worth of tickets in a
year. Garland with only two miles of road generated $400,000 in
revenue, WFAA reported.


"I don't believe the speed limits have, in any way, set a traffic
trap
for motorists," NTTA spokesman Sherita Coffelt told WFAA."

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Lest Aunt Judy has any doubt that politicians are crooks.... :^D

I did get a kick out of the "traffic trap" comment. I'm sure Brent
and Nate will get a good laugh over that gem.

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"You can't be serious!" - John McEnroe

Reply from: Scott in SoCal
Date: 09 May 2008, 04:06
Re: Aunt Judy's least favorite legislation?

On Thu, 8 May 2008 16:23:50 -0700 (PDT), MLOM <grvan@netzero . net >
wrote:

>"Speed limits are set to rise in the coming weeks in both Utah and
>Dallas, Texas. The Utah Department of Transportation has now been
>granted full legal authority to set the maximum speed limit on a test
>stretch of Interstate 15 according to recognized engineering safety
>standards, including a consideration of the actual speed at which the
>majority of traffic is moving in safety. As the road is already posted
>at 75 MPH, this means the agency could either choose to join Texas in
>posting an 80 MPH speed limit or become the nation's fastest road by
>setting an 85 MPH limit.

If Utah does that, I'm making a special road trip up there JUST to
drive on the road. :)
--
Proud to be a wreckless driver.

Reply from: Brent P
Date: 09 May 2008, 04:25
Re: Aunt Judy's least favorite legislation?

On 2008-05-09, Scott in SoCal <scottenaztlan@yahoo . com > wrote:

>>majority of traffic is moving in safety. As the road is already posted
>>at 75 MPH, this means the agency could either choose to join Texas in
>>posting an 80 MPH speed limit or become the nation's fastest road by
>>setting an 85 MPH limit.

> If Utah does that, I'm making a special road trip up there JUST to
> drive on the road. :)

Just to go what is the normal flow speed where you live without looking
for cops? Doesn't seem worth it. Now derestricted, that would be worth
it.



Reply from: Arif Khokar
Date: 09 May 2008, 05:07
Re: Aunt Judy's least favorite legislation?

Brent P wrote:
> On 2008-05-09, Scott in SoCal <scottenaztlan@yahoo . com > wrote:

>>> majority of traffic is moving in safety. As the road is already posted
>>> at 75 MPH, this means the agency could either choose to join Texas in
>>> posting an 80 MPH speed limit or become the nation's fastest road by
>>> setting an 85 MPH limit.

>> If Utah does that, I'm making a special road trip up there JUST to
>> drive on the road. :)

> Just to go what is the normal flow speed where you live without looking
> for cops? Doesn't seem worth it. Now derestricted, that would be worth
> it.

If only all of us went to MT sometime between 1995 and 1999 ;)

Reply from: MLOM
Date: 09 May 2008, 04:26
Re: Aunt Judy's least favorite legislation?

On May 8, 9:06 pm, Scott in SoCal <scottenazt...@yahoo . com > wrote:
> On Thu, 8 May 2008 16:23:50 -0700 (PDT), MLOM <gr...@netzero . net >
> wrote:
>
> >"Speed limits are set to rise in the coming weeks in both Utah and
> >Dallas, Texas. The Utah Department of Transportation has now been
> >granted full legal authority to set the maximum speed limit on a test
> >stretch of Interstate 15 according to recognized engineering safety
> >standards, including a consideration of the actual speed at which the
> >majority of traffic is moving in safety. As the road is already posted
> >at 75 MPH, this means the agency could either choose to join Texas in
> >posting an 80 MPH speed limit or become the nation's fastest road by
> >setting an 85 MPH limit.
>
> If Utah does that, I'm making a special road trip up there JUST to
> drive on the road. :)
> --
> Proud to be a wreckless driver.

It would be a waste of a good Corvette if you didn't. :)

Reply from: Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS
Date: 10 May 2008, 20:26
Re: Aunt Judy's least favorite legislation?

Obviously, these legislators are taking bribes from the auto industry.
They make a fortune off car crashes.


Reply from: Nate Nagel
Date: 10 May 2008, 20:32
Re: Aunt Judy's least favorite legislation?

Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS wrote:
> Obviously, these legislators are taking bribes from the auto industry.
> They make a fortune off car crashes.
>

Even assuming that your first premise is correct, how would following
accepted engineering principles and guidelines result in more crashes?

nate

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* members.cox . net /njnagel

Reply from: Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS
Date: 11 May 2008, 05:33
Re: Aunt Judy's least favorite legislation?

On May 10, 12:32 pm, Nate Nagel <njna...@roosters . net > wrote:
> Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS wrote:
>
> > Obviously, these legislators are taking bribes from the auto industry.
> > They make a fortune off car crashes.
>
> Even assuming that your first premise is correct, how would following
> accepted engineering principles and guidelines result in more crashes?
>

What engineering principles? Higher speeds mean more crashes and
killings. Case closed.

Reply from: Nate Nagel
Date: 11 May 2008, 13:41
Re: Aunt Judy's least favorite legislation?

Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS wrote:
> On May 10, 12:32 pm, Nate Nagel <njna...@roosters . net > wrote:
>
>>Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Obviously, these legislators are taking bribes from the auto industry.
>>>They make a fortune off car crashes.
>>
>>Even assuming that your first premise is correct, how would following
>>accepted engineering principles and guidelines result in more crashes?
>>
>
>
> What engineering principles? Higher speeds mean more crashes and
> killings. Case closed.

This is why our roads aren't nearly as safe as they could be.

nate

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replace "roosters" with "cox" to reply.
* members.cox . net /njnagel




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