When to replace radiator and heater hoses

When to replace radiator and heater hoses

The hoses on my 1993 Plymouth Grand Voyager are still the original.
There are no cracks, and don't feel *mushy.*

Should I replace them as a precaution? It has been 15 years / 99,000
miles on these hoses.

Thanks,

KM

Re: When to replace radiator and heater hoses


<kmath50@gmail,com > wrote in message
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> The hoses on my 1993 Plymouth Grand Voyager are still the original.
> There are no cracks, and don't feel *mushy.*
>
> Should I replace them as a precaution? It has been 15 years / 99,000
> miles on these hoses.
>
> Thanks,
>
> KM
>

Ozone will tear rubber up. If you got the time and extra money I would
replace them. If this vehicle has rear heat you may want to take a look see
at the auxiliary lines. They are steel and will break if they have alot of
rust on them.

My opinion

Glenn Beasley
Chrysler Tech

Re: When to replace radiator and heater hoses

On Apr 17, 10:38 am, "maxpower" <damnnickn...@yahoo,com > wrote:
> <kmat...@gmail,com > wrote in message
>
> news:263339fc-2127-4e8b-b800-61a4ad3331a6@f36g2000hsa.googlegroups,com ...
>
> > The hoses on my 1993 Plymouth Grand Voyager are still the original.
> > There are no cracks, and don't feel *mushy.*
>
> > Should I replace them as a precaution? It has been 15 years / 99,000
> > miles on these hoses.
>
> > Thanks,
>
> > KM
>
> Ozone will tear rubber up. If you got the time and extra money I would
> replace them. If this vehicle has rear heat you may want to take a look see
> at the auxiliary lines. They are steel and will break if they have alot of
> rust on them.
>
> My opinion
>
> Glenn Beasley
> Chrysler Tech

Glenn, thanks for the advice. I have been thinking about doing it as
*breakdown* prevention.

This van does not have rear heat, so that's one less thing to worry
about.

Is the dealer the only place to get the molded hoses?

Can the heater hoses be replaced at the firewall, or do they connect
to the heater core behind the dash?

Thanks,

KM

Re: When to replace radiator and heater hoses


<kmath50@gmail,com > wrote in message
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On Apr 17, 10:38 am, "maxpower" <damnnickn...@yahoo,com > wrote:
> <kmat...@gmail,com > wrote in message
>
> news:263339fc-2127-4e8b-b800-61a4ad3331a6@f36g2000hsa.googlegroups,com ...
>
> > The hoses on my 1993 Plymouth Grand Voyager are still the original.
> > There are no cracks, and don't feel *mushy.*
>
> > Should I replace them as a precaution? It has been 15 years / 99,000
> > miles on these hoses.
>
> > Thanks,
>
> > KM
>
> Ozone will tear rubber up. If you got the time and extra money I would
> replace them. If this vehicle has rear heat you may want to take a look
see
> at the auxiliary lines. They are steel and will break if they have alot of
> rust on them.
>
> My opinion
>
> Glenn Beasley
> Chrysler Tech

Glenn, thanks for the advice. I have been thinking about doing it as
*breakdown* prevention.

This van does not have rear heat, so that's one less thing to worry
about.

Is the dealer the only place to get the molded hoses?

Can the heater hoses be replaced at the firewall, or do they connect
to the heater core behind the dash?

Thanks,

KM

You should be able to get those hoses anywhere. Some of the hoses may be
preformed to fit. You don't specify engine size but if you have the 3.3/3.8,
don't forget to have the bypass hose replaced at the water pump.

Glenn

Re: When to replace radiator and heater hoses

On Apr 17, 12:01 pm, "maxpower" <damnnickn...@yahoo,com > wrote:
> <kmat...@gmail,com > wrote in message
>
> news:bd74df81-8736-4ca7-8077-0e36a3f5d963@m3g2000hsc.googlegroups,com ...
> On Apr 17, 10:38 am, "maxpower" <damnnickn...@yahoo,com > wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > <kmat...@gmail,com > wrote in message
>
> >news:263339fc-2127-4e8b-b800-61a4ad3331a6@f36g2000hsa.googlegroups,com ...
>
> > > The hoses on my 1993 Plymouth Grand Voyager are still the original.
> > > There are no cracks, and don't feel *mushy.*
>
> > > Should I replace them as a precaution? It has been 15 years / 99,000
> > > miles on these hoses.
>
> > > Thanks,
>
> > > KM
>
> > Ozone will tear rubber up. If you got the time and extra money I would
> > replace them. If this vehicle has rear heat you may want to take a look
> see
> > at the auxiliary lines. They are steel and will break if they have alot of
> > rust on them.
>
> > My opinion
>
> > Glenn Beasley
> > Chrysler Tech
>
> Glenn, thanks for the advice. I have been thinking about doing it as
> *breakdown* prevention.
>
> This van does not have rear heat, so that's one less thing to worry
> about.
>
> Is the dealer the only place to get the molded hoses?
>
> Can the heater hoses be replaced at the firewall, or do they connect
> to the heater core behind the dash?
>
> Thanks,
>
> KM
>
> You should be able to get those hoses anywhere. Some of the hoses may be
> preformed to fit. You don't specify engine size but if you have the 3.3/3.8,
> don't forget to have the bypass hose replaced at the water pump.
>
> Glenn- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

It's a 3.3. Do the heater hoses connect at the firewall, or behind the
dash?

Thanks,

Kirk

Re: When to replace radiator and heater hoses

It's a 3.3. Do the heater hoses connect at the firewall, or behind the
dash?

Thanks,

Kirk

On my '95 GC SE the heater core metal lines protrude from the firewall and
the hoses are attached to them with clamps. My van does have the rear heat
and A/C though. I will second the thing about not forgetting to replace the
bypass hose as it was the first to go on our '92 Dynasty. To see it look
straight down between the thermostat housing and the A/C compressor. It is
a very short length of hose that runs from the thermostat housing portion of
the lower intake manifold to the water pump section of the timing cover.

Re: When to replace radiator and heater hoses


<kmath50@gmail,com > wrote in message
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On Apr 17, 12:01 pm, "maxpower" <damnnickn...@yahoo,com > wrote:
> <kmat...@gmail,com > wrote in message
>
> news:bd74df81-8736-4ca7-8077-0e36a3f5d963@m3g2000hsc.googlegroups,com ...
> On Apr 17, 10:38 am, "maxpower" <damnnickn...@yahoo,com > wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > <kmat...@gmail,com > wrote in message
>
> >news:263339fc-2127-4e8b-b800-61a4ad3331a6@f36g2000hsa.googlegroups,com ...
>
> > > The hoses on my 1993 Plymouth Grand Voyager are still the original.
> > > There are no cracks, and don't feel *mushy.*
>
> > > Should I replace them as a precaution? It has been 15 years / 99,000
> > > miles on these hoses.
>
> > > Thanks,
>
> > > KM
>
> > Ozone will tear rubber up. If you got the time and extra money I would
> > replace them. If this vehicle has rear heat you may want to take a look
> see
> > at the auxiliary lines. They are steel and will break if they have alot
of
> > rust on them.
>
> > My opinion
>
> > Glenn Beasley
> > Chrysler Tech
>
> Glenn, thanks for the advice. I have been thinking about doing it as
> *breakdown* prevention.
>
> This van does not have rear heat, so that's one less thing to worry
> about.
>
> Is the dealer the only place to get the molded hoses?
>
> Can the heater hoses be replaced at the firewall, or do they connect
> to the heater core behind the dash?
>
> Thanks,
>
> KM
>
> You should be able to get those hoses anywhere. Some of the hoses may be
> preformed to fit. You don't specify engine size but if you have the
3.3/3.8,
> don't forget to have the bypass hose replaced at the water pump.
>
> Glenn- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

It's a 3.3. Do the heater hoses connect at the firewall, or behind the
dash?

Thanks,

Kirk

The hoses connect at the firewall, easy to remove.

Glenn

Re: When to replace radiator and heater hoses

On Apr 17, 6:03 pm, "maxpower" <damnnickn...@yahoo,com > wrote:
> <kmat...@gmail,com > wrote in message
>
> news:f9b78677-ff72-42a5-a856-f984b8e607b8@f63g2000hsf.googlegroups,com ...
> On Apr 17, 12:01 pm, "maxpower" <damnnickn...@yahoo,com > wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > <kmat...@gmail,com > wrote in message
>
> >news:bd74df81-8736-4ca7-8077-0e36a3f5d963@m3g2000hsc.googlegroups,com ...
> > On Apr 17, 10:38 am, "maxpower" <damnnickn...@yahoo,com > wrote:
>
> > > <kmat...@gmail,com > wrote in message
>
> > >news:263339fc-2127-4e8b-b800-61a4ad3331a6@f36g2000hsa.googlegroups,com ...
>
> > > > The hoses on my 1993 Plymouth Grand Voyager are still the original.
> > > > There are no cracks, and don't feel *mushy.*
>
> > > > Should I replace them as a precaution? It has been 15 years / 99,000
> > > > miles on these hoses.
>
> > > > Thanks,
>
> > > > KM
>
> > > Ozone will tear rubber up. If you got the time and extra money I would
> > > replace them. If this vehicle has rear heat you may want to take a look
> > see
> > > at the auxiliary lines. They are steel and will break if they have alot
> of
> > > rust on them.
>
> > > My opinion
>
> > > Glenn Beasley
> > > Chrysler Tech
>
> > Glenn, thanks for the advice. I have been thinking about doing it as
> > *breakdown* prevention.
>
> > This van does not have rear heat, so that's one less thing to worry
> > about.
>
> > Is the dealer the only place to get the molded hoses?
>
> > Can the heater hoses be replaced at the firewall, or do they connect
> > to the heater core behind the dash?
>
> > Thanks,
>
> > KM
>
> > You should be able to get those hoses anywhere. Some of the hoses may be
> > preformed to fit. You don't specify engine size but if you have the
> 3.3/3.8,
> > don't forget to have the bypass hose replaced at the water pump.
>
> > Glenn- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> It's a 3.3. Do the heater hoses connect at the firewall, or behind the
> dash?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Kirk
>
> The hoses connect at the firewall, easy to remove.
>
> Glenn- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

I'll go ahead and do it then. I am hoping to squeeze another year or
two of service from the ole '93.

It's interesting how many old Chrysler mini-vans are still on the
road. I see many 1991 - 95 vintages, along with some 1987 -1990
flavors too. I have not seen a 1984 - 1986 for a long time.

When I was growing up in the 1960's, no one would have thought of
driving a 10 - 15 year old car at the time. When we traded in our 1955
Mercury, it was 8 years old, and "could not be trusted" for long trips
anymore. Things have change a lot since then.

A neighbor had 256,000 miles on his 1990 Dodge Dynasty before he
replaced it.

Thanks for reading,

-KM

Re: When to replace radiator and heater hoses

the 92,93,94 and 95 were the best Mini Vans Chrysler had. When the new body
style 96's came out they had problems.

Glenn Beasley

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Re: When to replace radiator and heater hoses


"damnnickname" <damnnickname@yahoo,com > wrote in message
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> the 92,93,94 and 95 were the best Mini Vans Chrysler had. When the new
> body
> style 96's came out they had problems.
>
> Glenn Beasley
>
> --
> Message posted using
> http :// www .talkaboutautos,com /group/rec.autos.makers.chrysler/
> More information at http :// www .talkaboutautos,com /faq.html
>
>

Agreed. My '95 GC SE 3.3 is doing just fine with slightly over 225,000
miles now and my cousin's '96 GC (not sure about submodel or miles) 3.3 is
having lots of issues. As I said before the '92 Dynasty 3.3 made it to
252,000 before the spun bearing and it is now waiting to be crushed which is
kinda sad as it had the rare vinyl roof over the rear window area.

Re: When to replace radiator and heater hoses

In <XJqOj.127406$yE1.13605@attbi_s21> "Daniel Who Wants to Know" <danielthechskid@merrychristmasi,com > writes:


>"damnnickname" <damnnickname@yahoo,com > wrote in message
>news:6b22ebfc5fbf264378ae0ee40141d957@localhost.talkaboutautos,com ...
>> the 92,93,94 and 95 were the best Mini Vans Chrysler had. When the new
>> body
>> style 96's came out they had problems.
>>
>> Glenn Beasley
>>
>> --
>> Message posted using
>> http :// www .talkaboutautos,com /group/rec.autos.makers.chrysler/
>> More information at http :// www .talkaboutautos,com /faq.html
>>
>>

>Agreed. My '95 GC SE 3.3 is doing just fine with slightly over 225,000
>miles now and my cousin's '96 GC (not sure about submodel or miles) 3.3 is
>having lots of issues. As I said before the '92 Dynasty 3.3 made it to
>252,000 before the spun bearing and it is now waiting to be crushed which is
>kinda sad as it had the rare vinyl roof over the rear window area.

I have a 94 Caravan with about 220,000km and it has been the best vehicle I
have ever owned. It still has the original exhaust, rad, tranny, engine and
front end parts. I have had to replace the heater core, starter, rear shocks,
water pump and battery over the life of the van (brakes too, of course ;-).
Very minor oil pan and valve cover leaks.

It is just now starting to rust and the ball joints are starting to complain.

My wife won't part with it.

Re: When to replace radiator and heater hoses


"BlueBuyYoo" <BlueBuyYoo@hotmail,com > wrote in message
news:fudl7v$3fg$1@driftwood.ccs.carleton.ca...
> In <XJqOj.127406$yE1.13605@attbi_s21> "Daniel Who Wants to Know"
<danielthechskid@merrychristmasi,com > writes:
>
>
> >"damnnickname" <damnnickname@yahoo,com > wrote in message
> >news:6b22ebfc5fbf264378ae0ee40141d957@localhost.talkaboutautos,com ...
> >> the 92,93,94 and 95 were the best Mini Vans Chrysler had. When the new
> >> body
> >> style 96's came out they had problems.
> >>
> >> Glenn Beasley
> >>
> >> --
> >> Message posted using
> >> http :// www .talkaboutautos,com /group/rec.autos.makers.chrysler/
> >> More information at http :// www .talkaboutautos,com /faq.html
> >>
> >>
>
> >Agreed. My '95 GC SE 3.3 is doing just fine with slightly over 225,000
> >miles now and my cousin's '96 GC (not sure about submodel or miles) 3.3
is
> >having lots of issues. As I said before the '92 Dynasty 3.3 made it to
> >252,000 before the spun bearing and it is now waiting to be crushed which
is
> >kinda sad as it had the rare vinyl roof over the rear window area.
>
> I have a 94 Caravan with about 220,000km and it has been the best vehicle
I
> have ever owned. It still has the original exhaust, rad, tranny, engine
and
> front end parts. I have had to replace the heater core, starter, rear
shocks,
> water pump and battery over the life of the van (brakes too, of course
;-).
> Very minor oil pan and valve cover leaks.
>
> It is just now starting to rust and the ball joints are starting to
complain.
>
> My wife won't part with it.
>

We have a 94 & 95 T&C, great vans.

Only problem is they suck gas like there's no tomorrow. 15-18Mpg is pretty
standard for mixed city/highway usage.

Ted

Re: When to replace radiator and heater hoses

"Ted Mittelstaedt" <tedm@toybox.placo,com > wrote in message
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>
> We have a 94 & 95 T&C, great vans.
>
> Only problem is they suck gas like there's no tomorrow. 15-18Mpg is
> pretty
> standard for mixed city/highway usage.
>
> Ted
>


The Mini trip computer in mine is currently showing 22.1 MPG over the last
2070 miles (I never reset it). True it may not be completely accurate but
based on my fuel purchases it seems to be pretty close.

Re: When to replace radiator and heater hoses


"Daniel Who Wants to Know" <danielthechskid@merrychristmasi,com > wrote in
message news:M4YOj.129699$yE1.45765@attbi_s21...
> "Ted Mittelstaedt" <tedm@toybox.placo,com > wrote in message
> news:newscache$juamzj$k3u$1@news.ipinc,net ...
> >
> > We have a 94 & 95 T&C, great vans.
> >
> > Only problem is they suck gas like there's no tomorrow. 15-18Mpg is
> > pretty
> > standard for mixed city/highway usage.
> >
> > Ted
> >
>
>
> The Mini trip computer in mine is currently showing 22.1 MPG over the last
> 2070 miles (I never reset it).

Yep, if your running 90-100% highway you probably will get that.

What's your 50-50 city/highway mix mpg? (this is a T&T right? Running
100% gasoline, not 10% ethanol mix? Many Caravans had the 3.3L which
is better mpg)

Ted

Re: When to replace radiator and heater hoses

"Ted Mittelstaedt" <tedm@toybox.placo,com > wrote in message
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>
> "Daniel Who Wants to Know" <danielthechskid@merrychristmasi,com > wrote in
> message news:M4YOj.129699$yE1.45765@attbi_s21...
>> "Ted Mittelstaedt" <tedm@toybox.placo,com > wrote in message
>> news:newscache$juamzj$k3u$1@news.ipinc,net ...
>> >
>> > We have a 94 & 95 T&C, great vans.
>> >
>> > Only problem is they suck gas like there's no tomorrow. 15-18Mpg is
>> > pretty
>> > standard for mixed city/highway usage.
>> >
>> > Ted
>> >
>>
>>
>> The Mini trip computer in mine is currently showing 22.1 MPG over the
>> last
>> 2070 miles (I never reset it).
>
> Yep, if your running 90-100% highway you probably will get that.
>
> What's your 50-50 city/highway mix mpg? (this is a T&T right? Running
> 100% gasoline, not 10% ethanol mix? Many Caravans had the 3.3L which
> is better mpg)
>
> Ted
>
>

The number I posted is for a 2WD 3.3 GC SE on E10 89 octane gas. Today I
did some around town driving and it dropped back to 22.0. I calculated my
average speed via the trip miles and elapsed time displays and got about
33MPH. I normally still set the cruise for 54 on the highway for my 86.2
mile round trip that I take twice a week. The rest of my trips are so short
that the engine barely gets to operating temp before it is shut off again.
I plan to start using the non-ethanol 87 octane gas even though it is 10
cents more expensive here as it will take less than a 1 mpg improvement to
make up for the extra cost. The grades here are 87, 89, and 91 with 89 and
91 being E10. Currently 87 is $3.489/Gallon and 89 is $3.389/Gallon