Red Arrows petition

The RED ARROWS aerobatic squadron of the Royal Air Force brings huge
pride and international prestige to the UK, but the Treasury
bean-counters in our beloved Government want to axe the Reds to save a
couple of shillings. The personnel, pilots and aircraft of the
squadron are all capable of deployment elsewhere in the RAF, so the
money really saved would be peanuts.

Cynics might observe that the move is a covert campaign to expunge
from the public mind a potent and highly visible symbol of the very
best of the Royal Air Force as an independent Air Arm of a United
Kingdom giving up its identity to Europe...

10 Downing St website has an online petition
http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/SaveTheReds/. Please sign it. Don't let
them get away with this.

Please could you pass this on to those you know who also care.
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Joe Curry wrote:
> The RED ARROWS aerobatic squadron of the Royal Air Force brings huge
> pride and international prestige to the UK, but the Treasury
> bean-counters in our beloved Government want to axe the Reds to save a
> couple of shillings. The personnel, pilots and aircraft of the
> squadron are all capable of deployment elsewhere in the RAF, so the
> money really saved would be peanuts.
>
> Cynics might observe that the move is a covert campaign to expunge
> from the public mind a potent and highly visible symbol of the very
> best of the Royal Air Force as an independent Air Arm of a United
> Kingdom giving up its identity to Europe...
>
> 10 Downing St website has an online petition
> http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/SaveTheReds/. Please sign it. Don't let
> them get away with this.
>
> Please could you pass this on to those you know who also care.

I'm rather more concerned with the covert dismantling of the Parachute
Regiment.
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®i©ardo wrote:
> Joe Curry wrote:
>> The RED ARROWS aerobatic squadron of the Royal Air Force brings huge
>> pride and international prestige to the UK, but the Treasury
>> bean-counters in our beloved Government want to axe the Reds to save a
>> couple of shillings. The personnel, pilots and aircraft of the
>> squadron are all capable of deployment elsewhere in the RAF, so the
>> money really saved would be peanuts.
>> Cynics might observe that the move is a covert campaign to expunge
>> from the public mind a potent and highly visible symbol of the very
>> best of the Royal Air Force as an independent Air Arm of a United
>> Kingdom giving up its identity to Europe...
>> 10 Downing St website has an online petition
>> http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/SaveTheReds/. Please sign it. Don't let
>> them get away with this.
>> Please could you pass this on to those you know who also care.
>
> I'm rather more concerned with the covert dismantling of the Parachute
> Regiment.

My future son-in-law is in the Parachute Regiment and I am concerned
about why he has to buy much of his own equipment, that provided by the
MOD simply not being fit for purpose.

Brian.

In article <hPPKh.2505$B37.1836@newsfe2-win.ntli.net>, Brian Robertson
says...

> My future son-in-law is in the Parachute Regiment and I am concerned
> about why he has to buy much of his own equipment, that provided by the
> MOD simply not being fit for purpose.
>
Have you been in the Forces Brian?

Squaddies have bought their own gear and modified issue kit for
decades. IT IS NOTHING NEW. The MOD issue kit is fit for purpose, it's
just that for some people, there are better alternatives available if
you're prepared to pay the horrendous money charged for them. Same as
for anything.


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Conor

Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright
until you hear them speak.........

On Sun, 18 Mar 2007 16:18:35 -0000, Conor <conor.turton@gmail.com>
wrote:

>In article <hPPKh.2505$B37.1836@newsfe2-win.ntli.net>, Brian Robertson
>says...
>
>> My future son-in-law is in the Parachute Regiment and I am concerned
>> about why he has to buy much of his own equipment, that provided by the
>> MOD simply not being fit for purpose.
>>
>Have you been in the Forces Brian?
>
>Squaddies have bought their own gear and modified issue kit for
>decades. IT IS NOTHING NEW. The MOD issue kit is fit for purpose, it's
>just that for some people, there are better alternatives available if
>you're prepared to pay the horrendous money charged for them. Same as
>for anything.
Well said Conor the nancy boys that are joining the forces these days
are wanting tiled bathrooms and showers and bogs even on the
battlefield now I would love to have seen their faces had they been
called up back in the days of national service like I was .

Conor wrote:
> In article <hPPKh.2505$B37.1836@newsfe2-win.ntli.net>, Brian Robertson
> says...
>
>> My future son-in-law is in the Parachute Regiment and I am concerned
>> about why he has to buy much of his own equipment, that provided by the
>> MOD simply not being fit for purpose.
>>
> Have you been in the Forces Brian?
>
> Squaddies have bought their own gear and modified issue kit for
> decades. IT IS NOTHING NEW. The MOD issue kit is fit for purpose, it's
> just that for some people, there are better alternatives available if
> you're prepared to pay the horrendous money charged for them. Same as
> for anything.
>
>

Fine observation: "The MOD issue kit is fit for purpose", provided you
end up being issued with it, or you're allowed to keep it following its
issue to you. Wasn't there a case of "Hey you, give your body armour to
him..." as there wasn't enough to go round, with disastrous results?

Issues of defective ammunition in a war zone?
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In article <8nfLh.96444$nW6.43656@fe2.news.blueyonder.co.uk>, ®i©ardo
says...

> Fine observation: "The MOD issue kit is fit for purpose", provided you
> end up being issued with it, or you're allowed to keep it following its
> issue to you. Wasn't there a case of "Hey you, give your body armour to
> him..." as there wasn't enough to go round, with disastrous results?
>
What would you know? The nearest you've got is watching it on Sky News.


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Conor

Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright
until you hear them speak.........

In message <MPG.206799987a916d3d98a222@news.karoo.co.uk>, Conor
<conor.turton@gmail.com> writes
>> Fine observation: "The MOD issue kit is fit for purpose", provided you
>> end up being issued with it, or you're allowed to keep it following its
>> issue to you. Wasn't there a case of "Hey you, give your body armour to
>> him..." as there wasn't enough to go round, with disastrous results?
>>
>What would you know? The nearest you've got is watching it on Sky News.
What consolation is that to the mother of the soldier, that got killed
because he was instructed to hand over his body armour. Wasn't he the
first or one of the first to be killed in Iraq?
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Clive.

In article <gLy1H3DENZ$FFwjx@yewbank.demon.co.uk>, Clive. says...
> In message <MPG.206799987a916d3d98a222@news.karoo.co.uk>, Conor
> <conor.turton@gmail.com> writes
> >> Fine observation: "The MOD issue kit is fit for purpose", provided you
> >> end up being issued with it, or you're allowed to keep it following its
> >> issue to you. Wasn't there a case of "Hey you, give your body armour to
> >> him..." as there wasn't enough to go round, with disastrous results?
> >>
> >What would you know? The nearest you've got is watching it on Sky News.
> What consolation is that to the mother of the soldier, that got killed
> because he was instructed to hand over his body armour. Wasn't he the
> first or one of the first to be killed in Iraq?
>
Ho-hum...

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Conor

Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright
until you hear them speak.........

Conor wrote:
> In article <gLy1H3DENZ$FFwjx@yewbank.demon.co.uk>, Clive. says...
>> In message <MPG.206799987a916d3d98a222@news.karoo.co.uk>, Conor
>> <conor.turton@gmail.com> writes
>>>> Fine observation: "The MOD issue kit is fit for purpose", provided you
>>>> end up being issued with it, or you're allowed to keep it following its
>>>> issue to you. Wasn't there a case of "Hey you, give your body armour to
>>>> him..." as there wasn't enough to go round, with disastrous results?
>>>>
>>> What would you know? The nearest you've got is watching it on Sky News.
>> What consolation is that to the mother of the soldier, that got killed
>> because he was instructed to hand over his body armour. Wasn't he the
>> first or one of the first to be killed in Iraq?
>>
> Ho-hum...
>
OK, tell us about this Sky News thing where you get your information from.

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In article <38CLh.106144$nW6.105386@fe2.news.blueyonder.co.uk>, ®i©ardo
says...
> Conor wrote:
> > In article <gLy1H3DENZ$FFwjx@yewbank.demon.co.uk>, Clive. says...
> >> In message <MPG.206799987a916d3d98a222@news.karoo.co.uk>, Conor
> >> <conor.turton@gmail.com> writes
> >>>> Fine observation: "The MOD issue kit is fit for purpose", provided you
> >>>> end up being issued with it, or you're allowed to keep it following its
> >>>> issue to you. Wasn't there a case of "Hey you, give your body armour to
> >>>> him..." as there wasn't enough to go round, with disastrous results?
> >>>>
> >>> What would you know? The nearest you've got is watching it on Sky News.
> >> What consolation is that to the mother of the soldier, that got killed
> >> because he was instructed to hand over his body armour. Wasn't he the
> >> first or one of the first to be killed in Iraq?
> >>
> > Ho-hum...
> >
> OK, tell us about this Sky News thing where you get your information from.
>
Why, have you been living in a cave for the past 20 years?


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Conor

Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright
until you hear them speak.........

Conor wrote:
> In article <38CLh.106144$nW6.105386@fe2.news.blueyonder.co.uk>, ®i©ardo
> says...
>> Conor wrote:
>>> In article <gLy1H3DENZ$FFwjx@yewbank.demon.co.uk>, Clive. says...
>>>> In message <MPG.206799987a916d3d98a222@news.karoo.co.uk>, Conor
>>>> <conor.turton@gmail.com> writes
>>>>>> Fine observation: "The MOD issue kit is fit for purpose", provided you
>>>>>> end up being issued with it, or you're allowed to keep it following its
>>>>>> issue to you. Wasn't there a case of "Hey you, give your body armour to
>>>>>> him..." as there wasn't enough to go round, with disastrous results?
>>>>>>
>>>>> What would you know? The nearest you've got is watching it on Sky News.
>>>> What consolation is that to the mother of the soldier, that got killed
>>>> because he was instructed to hand over his body armour. Wasn't he the
>>>> first or one of the first to be killed in Iraq?
>>>>
>>> Ho-hum...
>>>
>> OK, tell us about this Sky News thing where you get your information from.
>>
> Why, have you been living in a cave for the past 20 years?
>
>
No, but working "abroad" for a lot of the time!

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In article <E_TLh.17082$MR6.14590@fe1.news.blueyonder.co.uk>, ®i©ardo
says...

> > Why, have you been living in a cave for the past 20 years?
> >
> >
> No, but working "abroad" for a lot of the time!
>
Ireland doesn't really count as abroad. And sunning oneself in Cyp
isn't exactly the front line is it?


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Conor

Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright
until you hear them speak.........

Conor wrote:
> In article <E_TLh.17082$MR6.14590@fe1.news.blueyonder.co.uk>, ®i©ardo
> says...
>
>>> Why, have you been living in a cave for the past 20 years?
>>>
>>>
>> No, but working "abroad" for a lot of the time!
>>
> Ireland doesn't really count as abroad. And sunning oneself in Cyp
> isn't exactly the front line is it?
>
>
How would you know?

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In article <oFYLh.18523$MR6.6288@fe1.news.blueyonder.co.uk>, ®i©ardo
says...

> How would you know?
>
How do you think? Google for it - I've posted about it in the past. I
can't be arsed explaining yet again to an armchair wannabee.

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Conor

Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright
until you hear them speak.........