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BA sat corpse in first class

Reply from: Rubba Luva
Date: 18 Mar, 21:35
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article1530572.ece

>From The Sunday Times
March 18, 2007
BA sat corpse in first class
Steven Swinford

A BRITISH Airways passenger travelling first class has described how
he woke up on a long-haul flight to find that cabin crew had placed a
corpse in his row.

The body of a woman in her seventies, who died after the plane left
Delhi for Heathrow, was carried by cabin staff from economy to first
class, where there was more space. Her body was propped up in a seat,
using pillows.

The woman's daughter accompanied the corpse, and spent the rest of the
journey wailing in grief.

Paul Trinder, who awoke to see the body at the end of his row, last
week described the journey as "deeply disturbing", and complained that
the airline dismissed his concerns by telling him to "get over it".

"It was a complete mess - they seemed to have no proper plans in place
to deal with the situation," said Trinder, 54, a businessman from
Brackley, Northamptonshire.

The woman died during a nine-hour flight on a Boeing 747. Trinder was
catching up on sleep when he was woken by a commotion and opened his
eyes to see staff manoeuvring the body into a seat.

"I didn't have a clue what was going on. The stewards just plonked the
body down without saying a thing. I remember looking at this frail,
sparrow-like woman and thinking she was very ill," said Trinder.

"She kept slipping under the seatbelt and moving about with the motion
of the plane. When I asked what was going on I was shocked to hear she
was dead."

The woman's daughter and son-in-law arrived soon after and began
grieving. Trinder said: "It was terrifying. I put my earplugs in but
couldn't get away from the fact that there was a woman wailing at the
top of her voice just yards away. It was a really intense, primal
sound.

"I felt helpless. Grief is a very personal thing; it's not as if there
was anything I could do or say."

Trinder, chief executive of Capital Safety, which makes products for
the building industry, holds a BA gold card and travels more than
200,000 miles a year with the airline.

He became particularly concerned about the state of the body. "When
you have a decaying body on a plane at room temperature for more than
five hours there are significant health and safety risks," he said.

After the plane landed, those in first class remained on board for an
hour before police and a coroner gave the all-clear.

"The police even started interviewing me as a potential witness,
although I had no idea what had happened to the woman. I just kept
thinking to myself: 'I've paid more than £3,000 for this'," Trinder
said.

When contacted by BA about the complaint, Trinder says he was told he
would not be compensated and should "get over" the incident.

BA said the dead woman was taken into first class because the rest of
the plane was full.

A spokesman said: "When a customer passes away on board it is always
difficult and we apologise for any distress caused."

He said there were about 10 deaths each year out of 36m passengers.

Other carriers use different procedures. Singapore Airlines has
introduced "corpse cupboards" on its Airbus 340-500 aircraft. Cabin
crews use the locker if there is no empty row of seats to place a
corpse.


Reply from: Runge
Date: 18 Mar, 23:36

"Rubba Luva" <michaelnewport@yahoo.com> a écrit dans le message de news:
1174250141.018781.64880@n59g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article1530572.ece

>From The Sunday Times
March 18, 2007
BA sat corpse in first class
Steven Swinford

A BRITISH Airways passenger travelling first class has described how
he woke up on a long-haul flight to find that cabin crew had placed a
corpse in his row.

The body of a woman in her seventies, who died after the plane left
Delhi for Heathrow, was carried by cabin staff from economy to first
class, where there was more space. Her body was propped up in a seat,
using pillows.

The woman's daughter accompanied the corpse, and spent the rest of the
journey wailing in grief.

Paul Trinder, who awoke to see the body at the end of his row, last
week described the journey as "deeply disturbing", and complained that
the airline dismissed his concerns by telling him to "get over it".

"It was a complete mess - they seemed to have no proper plans in place
to deal with the situation," said Trinder, 54, a businessman from
Brackley, Northamptonshire.

The woman died during a nine-hour flight on a Boeing 747. Trinder was
catching up on sleep when he was woken by a commotion and opened his
eyes to see staff manoeuvring the body into a seat.

"I didn't have a clue what was going on. The stewards just plonked the
body down without saying a thing. I remember looking at this frail,
sparrow-like woman and thinking she was very ill," said Trinder.

"She kept slipping under the seatbelt and moving about with the motion
of the plane. When I asked what was going on I was shocked to hear she
was dead."

The woman's daughter and son-in-law arrived soon after and began
grieving. Trinder said: "It was terrifying. I put my earplugs in but
couldn't get away from the fact that there was a woman wailing at the
top of her voice just yards away. It was a really intense, primal
sound.

"I felt helpless. Grief is a very personal thing; it's not as if there
was anything I could do or say."

Trinder, chief executive of Capital Safety, which makes products for
the building industry, holds a BA gold card and travels more than
200,000 miles a year with the airline.

He became particularly concerned about the state of the body. "When
you have a decaying body on a plane at room temperature for more than
five hours there are significant health and safety risks," he said.

After the plane landed, those in first class remained on board for an
hour before police and a coroner gave the all-clear.

"The police even started interviewing me as a potential witness,
although I had no idea what had happened to the woman. I just kept
thinking to myself: 'I've paid more than £3,000 for this'," Trinder
said.

When contacted by BA about the complaint, Trinder says he was told he
would not be compensated and should "get over" the incident.

BA said the dead woman was taken into first class because the rest of
the plane was full.

A spokesman said: "When a customer passes away on board it is always
difficult and we apologise for any distress caused."

He said there were about 10 deaths each year out of 36m passengers.

Other carriers use different procedures. Singapore Airlines has
introduced "corpse cupboards" on its Airbus 340-500 aircraft. Cabin
crews use the locker if there is no empty row of seats to place a
corpse.





Reply from: Cochon Capitaliste
Date: 18 Mar, 23:44
I was stuck on an American Airlines flight for 28 hours; the smell of
a decaying corpse would have been a welcome change.


Reply from: Alan S
Date: 19 Mar, 00:30
On 18 Mar 2007 15:44:28 -0700, "Cochon Capitaliste"
<cochon-capitaliste@hotmail.com> wrote:

>I was stuck on an American Airlines flight for 28 hours; the smell of
>a decaying corpse would have been a welcome change.

A fate worse than death.

Cheers, Alan, Australia
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Reply from: Mike Hunt
Date: 19 Mar, 17:18
Cochon Capitaliste wrote:

> I was stuck on an American Airlines flight for 28 hours; the smell of
> a decaying corpse would have been a welcome change.
>

Why were you on an AA flight for 28 hours?
Which one?

Reply from: Deeply Filled Mortician
Date: 19 Mar, 00:02
Make credence recognised that on 18 Mar 2007 13:35:41 -0700, "Rubba
Luva" <michaelnewport@yahoo.com> has scripted:

>http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article1530572.ece

>"The police even started interviewing me as a potential witness,
>although I had no idea what had happened to the woman. I just kept
>thinking to myself: 'I've paid more than £3,000 for this'," Trinder
>said.

He paid WHAT???

I didn't think it was possible to pay that much for a flight!
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Reply from: JohnT
Date: 19 Mar, 00:00

"Deeply Filled Mortician" <deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote
in message news:s3hrv25vh9u3v3g3i51p2ri726hudv3has@4ax.com...
> Make credence recognised that on 18 Mar 2007 13:35:41 -0700, "Rubba
> Luva" <michaelnewport@yahoo.com> has scripted:
>
>>http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article1530572.ece
>
>>"The police even started interviewing me as a potential witness,
>>although I had no idea what had happened to the woman. I just kept
>>thinking to myself: 'I've paid more than £3,000 for this'," Trinder
>>said.
>
> He paid WHAT???
>
> I didn't think it was possible to pay that much for a flight!
> --

LHR to SYD, BA, First Class, out December, back January, cost more than
£7000.

JohnT



Reply from: Deeply Filled Mortician
Date: 19 Mar, 00:25
Make credence recognised that on Sun, 18 Mar 2007 23:00:01 -0000,
"JohnT" <donotspam@anywhere.uk> has scripted:

>
>"Deeply Filled Mortician" <deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote
>in message news:s3hrv25vh9u3v3g3i51p2ri726hudv3has@4ax.com...
>> Make credence recognised that on 18 Mar 2007 13:35:41 -0700, "Rubba
>> Luva" <michaelnewport@yahoo.com> has scripted:
>>
>>>http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article1530572.ece
>>
>>>"The police even started interviewing me as a potential witness,
>>>although I had no idea what had happened to the woman. I just kept
>>>thinking to myself: 'I've paid more than £3,000 for this'," Trinder
>>>said.
>>
>> He paid WHAT???
>>
>> I didn't think it was possible to pay that much for a flight!
>> --
>
>LHR to SYD, BA, First Class, out December, back January, cost more than
>£7000.

I very much doubt that. Have you got a source?
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Reply from: Craig Welch
Date: 19 Mar, 00:34
Deeply Filled Mortician wrote:

> "JohnT" <donotspam@anywhere.uk> has scripted:

>> LHR to SYD, BA, First Class, out December, back January, cost more than
>> £7000.
>
> I very much doubt that.

Why? It's quite realistic.

> Have you got a source?

Sigh. Go to any online travel booking service and have a look.

--
Craig

Reply from: yaofeng
Date: 19 Mar, 00:41
On Mar 18, 7:25 pm, Deeply Filled Mortician
<deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote:
> Make credence recognised that on Sun, 18 Mar 2007 23:00:01 -0000,
> "JohnT" <donots...@anywhere.uk> has scripted:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >"Deeply Filled Mortician" <deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wro=
te
> >in messagenews:s3hrv25vh9u3v3g3i51p2ri726hudv3has@4ax.com...
> >> Make credence recognised that on 18 Mar 2007 13:35:41 -0700, "Rubba
> >> Luva" <michaelnewp...@yahoo.com> has scripted:
>
> >>>http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article1530572.ece
>
> >>>"The police even started interviewing me as a potential witness,
> >>>although I had no idea what had happened to the woman. I just kept
> >>>thinking to myself: 'I've paid more than £3,000 for this'," Trinder
> >>>said.
>
> >> He paid WHAT???
>
> >> I didn't think it was possible to pay that much for a flight!
> >> --
>
> >LHR to SYD, BA, First Class, out December, back January, cost more than
> >£7000.
>
> I very much doubt that. Have you got a source?
> --
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> DFM -http://www.deepfriedmars.com
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> - Show quoted text -

I think that's about right. I flew in late January from EWR to Riga
(RIX) for $5,600 and change. My colleage did more than $6,500 Dulles
to Riga. Heathrow to Sydney would be much more.


Reply from: JohnT
Date: 19 Mar, 00:50

"Deeply Filled Mortician" <deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote
in message news:4hirv2pmp4frv6v9cvh1hetu2aqsqbj5fc@4ax.com...
> Make credence recognised that on Sun, 18 Mar 2007 23:00:01 -0000,
> "JohnT" <donotspam@anywhere.uk> has scripted:
>
>>
>>"Deeply Filled Mortician" <deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote
>>in message news:s3hrv25vh9u3v3g3i51p2ri726hudv3has@4ax.com...
>>> Make credence recognised that on 18 Mar 2007 13:35:41 -0700, "Rubba
>>> Luva" <michaelnewport@yahoo.com> has scripted:
>>>
>>>>http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article1530572.ece
>>>
>>>>"The police even started interviewing me as a potential witness,
>>>>although I had no idea what had happened to the woman. I just kept
>>>>thinking to myself: 'I've paid more than £3,000 for this'," Trinder
>>>>said.
>>>
>>> He paid WHAT???
>>>
>>> I didn't think it was possible to pay that much for a flight!
>>> --
>>
>>LHR to SYD, BA, First Class, out December, back January, cost more than
>>£7000.
>
> I very much doubt that. Have you got a source?
> --

Go to BA.com and price it yourself. I used out date 15 December, return date
15 January. Cost £7375.80. I await your apology.

JohnT



Reply from: Deeply Filled Mortician
Date: 19 Mar, 10:37
Make credence recognised that on Sun, 18 Mar 2007 23:50:23 -0000,
"JohnT" <donotspam@anywhere.uk> has scripted:

>
>"Deeply Filled Mortician" <deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote
>in message news:4hirv2pmp4frv6v9cvh1hetu2aqsqbj5fc@4ax.com...

>> I very much doubt that. Have you got a source?
>> --
>
>Go to BA.com and price it yourself. I used out date 15 December, return date
>15 January. Cost £7375.80. I await your apology.

From the BA website I got:

From Heathrow to Sydney:
Thu
20 Dec From £2384

From Sydney to Heathrow:
Sun
20 Jan From £2384

Total: £4768
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Reply from: RAK
Date: 19 Mar, 10:47

"Deeply Filled Mortician" <deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote
in message news:15msv2p4t0l0ebu48pkf2cg9oicr4ph7jp@4ax.com...
> Make credence recognised that on Sun, 18 Mar 2007 23:50:23 -0000,
> "JohnT" <donotspam@anywhere.uk> has scripted:
>
>>
>>"Deeply Filled Mortician" <deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote
>>in message news:4hirv2pmp4frv6v9cvh1hetu2aqsqbj5fc@4ax.com...
>
>>> I very much doubt that. Have you got a source?
>>> --
>>
>>Go to BA.com and price it yourself. I used out date 15 December, return
>>date
>>15 January. Cost £7375.80. I await your apology.
>
> From the BA website I got:
>
> From Heathrow to Sydney:
> Thu
> 20 Dec From £2384
>
> From Sydney to Heathrow:
> Sun
> 20 Jan From £2384
>
> Total: £4768
> --

The £7000 rtn fare did not surprise me at all.

I just tried those exact dates (20/12/07 & 20/01/08) on the BA site and got
£3688 each way in first and £2964 each way in Business. In both cases I
clicked the Flexible button (flexible on changing dates I assume).

Selecting Cheapest (the default) instead of Flexible gave £1705 e/w in
Business and £2384 e/w in 1st, the same as you got.

So everyone seems to be right in their own way.






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Reply from: Deeply Filled Mortician
Date: 20 Mar, 23:42
Make credence recognised that on Mon, 19 Mar 2007 09:47:18 -0000,
"RAK" <raknews@gmail.com> has scripted:

>The £7000 rtn fare did not surprise me at all.
>
>I just tried those exact dates (20/12/07 & 20/01/08) on the BA site and got
>£3688 each way in first and £2964 each way in Business. In both cases I
>clicked the Flexible button (flexible on changing dates I assume).
>
>Selecting Cheapest (the default) instead of Flexible gave £1705 e/w in
>Business and £2384 e/w in 1st, the same as you got.
>
>So everyone seems to be right in their own way.

I guess that's why I didn't make an apology.
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Reply from: JohnT
Date: 19 Mar, 11:08

"Deeply Filled Mortician" <deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote
in message news:15msv2p4t0l0ebu48pkf2cg9oicr4ph7jp@4ax.com...
> Make credence recognised that on Sun, 18 Mar 2007 23:50:23 -0000,
> "JohnT" <donotspam@anywhere.uk> has scripted:
>
>>
>>"Deeply Filled Mortician" <deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote
>>in message news:4hirv2pmp4frv6v9cvh1hetu2aqsqbj5fc@4ax.com...
>
>>> I very much doubt that. Have you got a source?
>>> --
>>
>>Go to BA.com and price it yourself. I used out date 15 December, return
>>date
>>15 January. Cost £7375.80. I await your apology.
>
> From the BA website I got:
>
> From Heathrow to Sydney:
> Thu
> 20 Dec From £2384
>
> From Sydney to Heathrow:
> Sun
> 20 Jan From £2384
>
> Total: £4768
> --

FROM £2384 one way. That is the cheap end of the price range.

JohnT




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