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Suvarnabhumi and taxi touts
I've flown in and out of the new airport a couple of times
domestically. My wife and I just returned from my first international
trip using Suvarnabhumi instead of Don Muang.
First the good. All of the whining and complaining about the new
airport appears to be just the standard "growing pains". Check in on
departure was fast. The airport fee is now included in the ticket
price so that delay is gone. Immigration was standard for Thailand
(slow). I flew Singapore Air. They don't have their own lounge as they
did in Don Muang but the Thai Airways lounge is top drawer.
On arrival the landing was smooth. I didn't see the rough tarmac that
people had complained about. Taxiing was actually smoother than
Changi. 5 minute walk to Immigration (lucked out on that one). Only 4
people in front of me at the Immigration line so that only took a few
minutes. Checked luggage was a bit slow but not bad.
Then came the bad. There are so many taxi touts that it is difficult
to walk through the terminal. Several tried to escort us. A couple
tried to take our bags off the cart to "be helpful". Out the door and
the closest road is reserved for taxis and limos. We had to walk to
the center divider to the second road so that my driver could meet us.
AOT needs to deal with the taxi tout situation. It's a whole bunch
worse than Don Muang. But other than that the experience at
Suvarnabhumi was actually better than it usually was at DM.
domestically. My wife and I just returned from my first international
trip using Suvarnabhumi instead of Don Muang.
First the good. All of the whining and complaining about the new
airport appears to be just the standard "growing pains". Check in on
departure was fast. The airport fee is now included in the ticket
price so that delay is gone. Immigration was standard for Thailand
(slow). I flew Singapore Air. They don't have their own lounge as they
did in Don Muang but the Thai Airways lounge is top drawer.
On arrival the landing was smooth. I didn't see the rough tarmac that
people had complained about. Taxiing was actually smoother than
Changi. 5 minute walk to Immigration (lucked out on that one). Only 4
people in front of me at the Immigration line so that only took a few
minutes. Checked luggage was a bit slow but not bad.
Then came the bad. There are so many taxi touts that it is difficult
to walk through the terminal. Several tried to escort us. A couple
tried to take our bags off the cart to "be helpful". Out the door and
the closest road is reserved for taxis and limos. We had to walk to
the center divider to the second road so that my driver could meet us.
AOT needs to deal with the taxi tout situation. It's a whole bunch
worse than Don Muang. But other than that the experience at
Suvarnabhumi was actually better than it usually was at DM.
On 24 Mar 2007 03:19:09 -0700 'Tchiowa'
posted this onto rec.travel.air:
>I've flown in and out of the new airport a couple of times
>domestically. My wife and I just returned from my first international
>trip using Suvarnabhumi instead of Don Muang.
>
>First the good. All of the whining and complaining about the new
>airport appears to be just the standard "growing pains". Check in on
>departure was fast. The airport fee is now included in the ticket
>price so that delay is gone. Immigration was standard for Thailand
>(slow). I flew Singapore Air. They don't have their own lounge as they
>did in Don Muang but the Thai Airways lounge is top drawer.
>
>On arrival the landing was smooth. I didn't see the rough tarmac that
>people had complained about. Taxiing was actually smoother than
>Changi. 5 minute walk to Immigration (lucked out on that one). Only 4
>people in front of me at the Immigration line so that only took a few
>minutes. Checked luggage was a bit slow but not bad.
>
>Then came the bad. There are so many taxi touts that it is difficult
>to walk through the terminal. Several tried to escort us. A couple
>tried to take our bags off the cart to "be helpful". Out the door and
>the closest road is reserved for taxis and limos. We had to walk to
>the center divider to the second road so that my driver could meet us.
>
>AOT needs to deal with the taxi tout situation. It's a whole bunch
>worse than Don Muang. But other than that the experience at
>Suvarnabhumi was actually better than it usually was at DM.
There's been a lot of recent press comment in Asia about the new
airport's problems ...cracks in the runways, taxiways and poor water
drainage etc and I believe it must be true, although I didn't actually
see any of it when I landed domestically 16th Feb and left 20th Feb.
There are also reports of leaks in the roof and not enough public
toilets. I think the latest plan is to move some domestic flights back
to DM while they sort out these problems.
W/r/t taxi touts, I totally agree. When I arrived, I was surrounded
by touts to the point of annoyance while I was trying to find where to
catch the Airport Express 1 coach to Silom. The signage to the AE is
not clear at all and it took me 20mins to find it. I shouldn't have
bothered because that was a poor experience and I won't using it
again. OTOH when I left it took me 35mins to get from Silom to the
airport by taxi and cost 400baht, so the taxi connections are not bad.
You didn't mention that the boarding gates can be a 20min walk from
the check-in counters, depending which gate you're using.
posted this onto rec.travel.air:
>I've flown in and out of the new airport a couple of times
>domestically. My wife and I just returned from my first international
>trip using Suvarnabhumi instead of Don Muang.
>
>First the good. All of the whining and complaining about the new
>airport appears to be just the standard "growing pains". Check in on
>departure was fast. The airport fee is now included in the ticket
>price so that delay is gone. Immigration was standard for Thailand
>(slow). I flew Singapore Air. They don't have their own lounge as they
>did in Don Muang but the Thai Airways lounge is top drawer.
>
>On arrival the landing was smooth. I didn't see the rough tarmac that
>people had complained about. Taxiing was actually smoother than
>Changi. 5 minute walk to Immigration (lucked out on that one). Only 4
>people in front of me at the Immigration line so that only took a few
>minutes. Checked luggage was a bit slow but not bad.
>
>Then came the bad. There are so many taxi touts that it is difficult
>to walk through the terminal. Several tried to escort us. A couple
>tried to take our bags off the cart to "be helpful". Out the door and
>the closest road is reserved for taxis and limos. We had to walk to
>the center divider to the second road so that my driver could meet us.
>
>AOT needs to deal with the taxi tout situation. It's a whole bunch
>worse than Don Muang. But other than that the experience at
>Suvarnabhumi was actually better than it usually was at DM.
There's been a lot of recent press comment in Asia about the new
airport's problems ...cracks in the runways, taxiways and poor water
drainage etc and I believe it must be true, although I didn't actually
see any of it when I landed domestically 16th Feb and left 20th Feb.
There are also reports of leaks in the roof and not enough public
toilets. I think the latest plan is to move some domestic flights back
to DM while they sort out these problems.
W/r/t taxi touts, I totally agree. When I arrived, I was surrounded
by touts to the point of annoyance while I was trying to find where to
catch the Airport Express 1 coach to Silom. The signage to the AE is
not clear at all and it took me 20mins to find it. I shouldn't have
bothered because that was a poor experience and I won't using it
again. OTOH when I left it took me 35mins to get from Silom to the
airport by taxi and cost 400baht, so the taxi connections are not bad.
You didn't mention that the boarding gates can be a 20min walk from
the check-in counters, depending which gate you're using.
"hummingbird" wrote ...
> On 24 Mar 2007 03:19:09 -0700 'Tchiowa'
> posted this onto rec.travel.air:
> >I've flown in and out of the new airport a couple of times
> >domestically. My wife and I just returned from my first international
trip using Suvarnabhumi instead of Don Muang.
> >
> >First the good. All of the whining and complaining about the new
> >airport appears to be just the standard "growing pains".
Righto--while 'tchiowa' finding something to whine and complain about is
something different ;~)
> Check in on departure was fast. The airport fee is now included in the
ticketprice so that delay is gone.
Umm, yes, and that's nothing that could not have been done at Don Muang.
> Immigration was standard for Thailand (slow).
I had scant little delay--under 5 minutes.
Waitaminit--downpage here 'tchiowa' is saying <q>Immigration line so that
only took a few minutes. </q>
Let me guess--it must be a reading deficiency, and not 'tchiowa'
contradicting self in the post ;~)
> I flew Singapore Air. They don't have their own lounge as they
> >did in Don Muang but the Thai Airways lounge is top drawer.
> >
> >On arrival the landing was smooth. I didn't see the rough tarmac that
people had complained about. Taxiing was actually smoother than Changi. 5
minute walk to Immigration (lucked out on that one). Only 4 people in front
of me at the Immigration line so that only took a few minutes. Checked
luggage was a bit slow but not bad.
The wait for baggage to arrive on the belt from the Cathay flight I took in
from HK was _much_ longer than Cathay to Don Muang. (or Delta, Northwest,
ANA, Thai, Japan, or EVA to Don Muang).
> >Then came the bad. There are so many taxi touts that it is difficult
> >to walk through the terminal. Several tried to escort us.
I found simply shaking my head and declaring "Mai ao !" while smiling more
than sufficed to repel taxi touts.
> A couple tried to take our bags off the cart to "be helpful".
Surprising! Does 'tchiowa' look particularly timid? ;~)
> Out the door and the closest road is reserved for taxis and limos. We had
to walk to the center divider to the second road so that my driver could
meet us.
Umm, that's how many meters compared to the hundreds of meters in from the
gates?
> >AOT needs to deal with the taxi tout situation. It's a whole bunch
> >worse than Don Muang.
Don Muang was more annoyingly 'touted up' in my experience.
The FACT that encounters vary between travelers and even during the course
of a day STRONGLY suggests one should not GENERALIZE from single (or even a
few) anecdotal experiences, while common immutable 'features' CAN fairly be
assessed. (such as the ungodly long trek to departure gates, unrelieved by
sufficient moving sidewalks)
> But other than that the experience at
> >Suvarnabhumi was actually better than it usually was at DM.
>
> There's been a lot of recent press comment in Asia about the new
> airport's problems ...cracks in the runways, taxiways and poor water
drainage etc and I believe it must be true, although I didn't actually see
any of it when I landed domestically 16th Feb and left 20th Feb.
Apparently 'tchiowa' did not sit in the pilot's cabin ;~)
> There are also reports of leaks in the roof and not enough public
> toilets. I think the latest plan is to move some domestic flights back
> to DM while they sort out these problems.
'thinks' ?
It's been very widely discussed.
> W/r/t taxi touts, I totally agree. When I arrived, I was surrounded
> by touts to the point of annoyance while I was trying to find where to
catch the Airport Express 1 coach to Silom. The signage to the AE is not
clear at all and it took me 20mins to find it. I shouldn't have
> bothered because that was a poor experience and I won't using it
> again.
We saw (or rather, passed by) that coach (or a similar one--on bottom level
1) on the way to the free shuttle to the public bus terminal--it looked like
a poor way to spend a large bus fare, especially as the public buses are
clean and spacious, and run frequently from the bus terminal.
HOWEVER, the stops at the airport terminal building were not well marked (if
marked at all--perhaps some mischief with signs, FAIK?); we ended up walking
the length of the lane (past that private Express bus stop-- when according
to the airport map, stops are also nearer to the beginning)
See if any of these are helpful:
http://www.bangkokairportonline.com/node/56
> OTOH when I left it took me 35mins to get from Silom to the airport by
taxi and cost 400baht, so the taxi connections are not bad.
> You didn't mention that the boarding gates can be a 20min walk from the
check-in counters, depending which gate you're using.
Bloody PITA, that, and worse if one is lame or burdened by age or with small
children. King Power's 'need' to glut the route with shops apparently
trumped passenger-friendly lengths of moving walkways.
> On 24 Mar 2007 03:19:09 -0700 'Tchiowa'
> posted this onto rec.travel.air:
> >I've flown in and out of the new airport a couple of times
> >domestically. My wife and I just returned from my first international
trip using Suvarnabhumi instead of Don Muang.
> >
> >First the good. All of the whining and complaining about the new
> >airport appears to be just the standard "growing pains".
Righto--while 'tchiowa' finding something to whine and complain about is
something different ;~)
> Check in on departure was fast. The airport fee is now included in the
ticketprice so that delay is gone.
Umm, yes, and that's nothing that could not have been done at Don Muang.
> Immigration was standard for Thailand (slow).
I had scant little delay--under 5 minutes.
Waitaminit--downpage here 'tchiowa' is saying <q>Immigration line so that
only took a few minutes. </q>
Let me guess--it must be a reading deficiency, and not 'tchiowa'
contradicting self in the post ;~)
> I flew Singapore Air. They don't have their own lounge as they
> >did in Don Muang but the Thai Airways lounge is top drawer.
> >
> >On arrival the landing was smooth. I didn't see the rough tarmac that
people had complained about. Taxiing was actually smoother than Changi. 5
minute walk to Immigration (lucked out on that one). Only 4 people in front
of me at the Immigration line so that only took a few minutes. Checked
luggage was a bit slow but not bad.
The wait for baggage to arrive on the belt from the Cathay flight I took in
from HK was _much_ longer than Cathay to Don Muang. (or Delta, Northwest,
ANA, Thai, Japan, or EVA to Don Muang).
> >Then came the bad. There are so many taxi touts that it is difficult
> >to walk through the terminal. Several tried to escort us.
I found simply shaking my head and declaring "Mai ao !" while smiling more
than sufficed to repel taxi touts.
> A couple tried to take our bags off the cart to "be helpful".
Surprising! Does 'tchiowa' look particularly timid? ;~)
> Out the door and the closest road is reserved for taxis and limos. We had
to walk to the center divider to the second road so that my driver could
meet us.
Umm, that's how many meters compared to the hundreds of meters in from the
gates?
> >AOT needs to deal with the taxi tout situation. It's a whole bunch
> >worse than Don Muang.
Don Muang was more annoyingly 'touted up' in my experience.
The FACT that encounters vary between travelers and even during the course
of a day STRONGLY suggests one should not GENERALIZE from single (or even a
few) anecdotal experiences, while common immutable 'features' CAN fairly be
assessed. (such as the ungodly long trek to departure gates, unrelieved by
sufficient moving sidewalks)
> But other than that the experience at
> >Suvarnabhumi was actually better than it usually was at DM.
>
> There's been a lot of recent press comment in Asia about the new
> airport's problems ...cracks in the runways, taxiways and poor water
drainage etc and I believe it must be true, although I didn't actually see
any of it when I landed domestically 16th Feb and left 20th Feb.
Apparently 'tchiowa' did not sit in the pilot's cabin ;~)
> There are also reports of leaks in the roof and not enough public
> toilets. I think the latest plan is to move some domestic flights back
> to DM while they sort out these problems.
'thinks' ?
It's been very widely discussed.
> W/r/t taxi touts, I totally agree. When I arrived, I was surrounded
> by touts to the point of annoyance while I was trying to find where to
catch the Airport Express 1 coach to Silom. The signage to the AE is not
clear at all and it took me 20mins to find it. I shouldn't have
> bothered because that was a poor experience and I won't using it
> again.
We saw (or rather, passed by) that coach (or a similar one--on bottom level
1) on the way to the free shuttle to the public bus terminal--it looked like
a poor way to spend a large bus fare, especially as the public buses are
clean and spacious, and run frequently from the bus terminal.
HOWEVER, the stops at the airport terminal building were not well marked (if
marked at all--perhaps some mischief with signs, FAIK?); we ended up walking
the length of the lane (past that private Express bus stop-- when according
to the airport map, stops are also nearer to the beginning)
See if any of these are helpful:
http://www.bangkokairportonline.com/node/56
> OTOH when I left it took me 35mins to get from Silom to the airport by
taxi and cost 400baht, so the taxi connections are not bad.
> You didn't mention that the boarding gates can be a 20min walk from the
check-in counters, depending which gate you're using.
Bloody PITA, that, and worse if one is lame or burdened by age or with small
children. King Power's 'need' to glut the route with shops apparently
trumped passenger-friendly lengths of moving walkways.
On Mar 24, 9:39 pm, "maxwell" <mmmaxw...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> "hummingbird" wrote ...> On 24 Mar 2007 03:19:09 -0700 'Tchiowa'
> > posted this onto rec.travel.air:
> > >I've flown in and out of the new airport a couple of times
> > >domestically. My wife and I just returned from my first international
> trip using Suvarnabhumi instead of Don Muang.
>
> > >First the good. All of the whining and complaining about the new
> > >airport appears to be just the standard "growing pains".
>
> Righto--while 'tchiowa' finding something to whine and complain about is
> something different ;~)
>
> > Check in on departure was fast. The airport fee is now included in the
> ticketprice so that delay is gone.
>
> Umm, yes, and that's nothing that could not have been done at Don Muang.
But it wasn't, was it? Or did you come to Thailand so rarely that you
had forgotten that?
> > Immigration was standard for Thailand (slow).
>
> I had scant little delay--under 5 minutes.
> Waitaminit--downpage here 'tchiowa' is saying <q>Immigration line so that
> only took a few minutes. </q>
> Let me guess--it must be a reading deficiency, and not 'tchiowa'
> contradicting self in the post ;~)
Reading Comprehension 101. First paragraph was *specifically* about
departures. Later down was *specifically* about arrivals. Different
Immigration process. Or is this yet another of the things you don't
understand?
> > I flew Singapore Air. They don't have their own lounge as they
> > >did in Don Muang but the Thai Airways lounge is top drawer.
>
> > >On arrival the landing was smooth. I didn't see the rough tarmac that
>
> people had complained about. Taxiing was actually smoother than Changi. 5
> minute walk to Immigration (lucked out on that one). Only 4 people in front
> of me at the Immigration line so that only took a few minutes. Checked
> luggage was a bit slow but not bad.
>
> The wait for baggage to arrive on the belt from the Cathay flight I took in
> from HK was _much_ longer than Cathay to Don Muang. (or Delta, Northwest,
> ANA, Thai, Japan, or EVA to Don Muang).
>
> > >Then came the bad. There are so many taxi touts that it is difficult
> > >to walk through the terminal. Several tried to escort us.
>
> I found simply shaking my head and declaring "Mai ao !" while smiling more
> than sufficed to repel taxi touts.
"Mai ao krap" would have been better.
> > A couple tried to take our bags off the cart to "be helpful".
>
> Surprising! Does 'tchiowa' look particularly timid? ;~)
Apparently they thought I looked like I could afford to pay for a
taxi. You apparently looked different.
> > Out the door and the closest road is reserved for taxis and limos. We had
> > to walk to the center divider to the second road so that my driver could
> > meet us.
>
> Umm, that's how many meters compared to the hundreds of meters in from the gates?
Read above. No "hundreds of meters" involved from the gates. And
that's irrelevant. The additional walk and pushing a cart through to
the center area is simply unnecessary.
> > >AOT needs to deal with the taxi tout situation. It's a whole bunch
> > >worse than Don Muang.
>
> Don Muang was more annoyingly 'touted up' in my experience.
"Experience"? One visit every other year doesn't really add up to a
whole lot of "experience".
And the gauntlet of taxi touts is much longer at Suvarnabhumi.
> > But other than that the experience at
> > >Suvarnabhumi was actually better than it usually was at DM.
>
> > There's been a lot of recent press comment in Asia about the new
> > airport's problems ...cracks in the runways, taxiways and poor water
> > drainage etc and I believe it must be true, although I didn't actually see
> > any of it when I landed domestically 16th Feb and left 20th Feb.
>
> Apparently 'tchiowa' did not sit in the pilot's cabin ;~)
Cracks in the runway can be felt as you taxi over them. Weren't you
aware of that? Or don't you have enough "experience" to realize that?
> > catch the Airport Express 1 coach to Silom. The signage to the AE is not
> > clear at all and it took me 20mins to find it. I shouldn't have
> > bothered because that was a poor experience and I won't using it
> > again.
>
> We saw (or rather, passed by) that coach (or a similar one--on bottom level
> 1) on the way to the free shuttle to the public bus terminal--it looked like
> a poor way to spend a large bus fare, especially as the public buses are
> clean and spacious, and run frequently from the bus terminal.
5555555555 "Free"? I guess that's why the taxi touts didn't go after
you. You look like someone looking for something for "free".
> "hummingbird" wrote ...> On 24 Mar 2007 03:19:09 -0700 'Tchiowa'
> > posted this onto rec.travel.air:
> > >I've flown in and out of the new airport a couple of times
> > >domestically. My wife and I just returned from my first international
> trip using Suvarnabhumi instead of Don Muang.
>
> > >First the good. All of the whining and complaining about the new
> > >airport appears to be just the standard "growing pains".
>
> Righto--while 'tchiowa' finding something to whine and complain about is
> something different ;~)
>
> > Check in on departure was fast. The airport fee is now included in the
> ticketprice so that delay is gone.
>
> Umm, yes, and that's nothing that could not have been done at Don Muang.
But it wasn't, was it? Or did you come to Thailand so rarely that you
had forgotten that?
> > Immigration was standard for Thailand (slow).
>
> I had scant little delay--under 5 minutes.
> Waitaminit--downpage here 'tchiowa' is saying <q>Immigration line so that
> only took a few minutes. </q>
> Let me guess--it must be a reading deficiency, and not 'tchiowa'
> contradicting self in the post ;~)
Reading Comprehension 101. First paragraph was *specifically* about
departures. Later down was *specifically* about arrivals. Different
Immigration process. Or is this yet another of the things you don't
understand?
> > I flew Singapore Air. They don't have their own lounge as they
> > >did in Don Muang but the Thai Airways lounge is top drawer.
>
> > >On arrival the landing was smooth. I didn't see the rough tarmac that
>
> people had complained about. Taxiing was actually smoother than Changi. 5
> minute walk to Immigration (lucked out on that one). Only 4 people in front
> of me at the Immigration line so that only took a few minutes. Checked
> luggage was a bit slow but not bad.
>
> The wait for baggage to arrive on the belt from the Cathay flight I took in
> from HK was _much_ longer than Cathay to Don Muang. (or Delta, Northwest,
> ANA, Thai, Japan, or EVA to Don Muang).
>
> > >Then came the bad. There are so many taxi touts that it is difficult
> > >to walk through the terminal. Several tried to escort us.
>
> I found simply shaking my head and declaring "Mai ao !" while smiling more
> than sufficed to repel taxi touts.
"Mai ao krap" would have been better.
> > A couple tried to take our bags off the cart to "be helpful".
>
> Surprising! Does 'tchiowa' look particularly timid? ;~)
Apparently they thought I looked like I could afford to pay for a
taxi. You apparently looked different.
> > Out the door and the closest road is reserved for taxis and limos. We had
> > to walk to the center divider to the second road so that my driver could
> > meet us.
>
> Umm, that's how many meters compared to the hundreds of meters in from the gates?
Read above. No "hundreds of meters" involved from the gates. And
that's irrelevant. The additional walk and pushing a cart through to
the center area is simply unnecessary.
> > >AOT needs to deal with the taxi tout situation. It's a whole bunch
> > >worse than Don Muang.
>
> Don Muang was more annoyingly 'touted up' in my experience.
"Experience"? One visit every other year doesn't really add up to a
whole lot of "experience".
And the gauntlet of taxi touts is much longer at Suvarnabhumi.
> > But other than that the experience at
> > >Suvarnabhumi was actually better than it usually was at DM.
>
> > There's been a lot of recent press comment in Asia about the new
> > airport's problems ...cracks in the runways, taxiways and poor water
> > drainage etc and I believe it must be true, although I didn't actually see
> > any of it when I landed domestically 16th Feb and left 20th Feb.
>
> Apparently 'tchiowa' did not sit in the pilot's cabin ;~)
Cracks in the runway can be felt as you taxi over them. Weren't you
aware of that? Or don't you have enough "experience" to realize that?
> > catch the Airport Express 1 coach to Silom. The signage to the AE is not
> > clear at all and it took me 20mins to find it. I shouldn't have
> > bothered because that was a poor experience and I won't using it
> > again.
>
> We saw (or rather, passed by) that coach (or a similar one--on bottom level
> 1) on the way to the free shuttle to the public bus terminal--it looked like
> a poor way to spend a large bus fare, especially as the public buses are
> clean and spacious, and run frequently from the bus terminal.
5555555555 "Free"? I guess that's why the taxi touts didn't go after
you. You look like someone looking for something for "free".
hummingbird wrote:
>
> On 24 Mar 2007 03:19:09 -0700 'Tchiowa'
> posted this onto rec.travel.air:
>
> >I've flown in and out of the new airport a couple of times
> >domestically. My wife and I just returned from my first international
> >trip using Suvarnabhumi instead of Don Muang.
> >
> >First the good. All of the whining and complaining about the new
> >airport appears to be just the standard "growing pains". Check in on
> >departure was fast. The airport fee is now included in the ticket
> >price so that delay is gone. Immigration was standard for Thailand
> >(slow). I flew Singapore Air. They don't have their own lounge as they
> >did in Don Muang but the Thai Airways lounge is top drawer.
> >
> >On arrival the landing was smooth. I didn't see the rough tarmac that
> >people had complained about. Taxiing was actually smoother than
> >Changi. 5 minute walk to Immigration (lucked out on that one). Only 4
> >people in front of me at the Immigration line so that only took a few
> >minutes. Checked luggage was a bit slow but not bad.
> >
> >Then came the bad. There are so many taxi touts that it is difficult
> >to walk through the terminal. Several tried to escort us. A couple
> >tried to take our bags off the cart to "be helpful". Out the door and
> >the closest road is reserved for taxis and limos. We had to walk to
> >the center divider to the second road so that my driver could meet us.
> >
> >AOT needs to deal with the taxi tout situation. It's a whole bunch
> >worse than Don Muang. But other than that the experience at
> >Suvarnabhumi was actually better than it usually was at DM.
>
> There's been a lot of recent press comment in Asia about the new
> airport's problems ...cracks in the runways,
<snip snap>
Actually I think the Thai Newspapers wrote Taxiways, not actually the
runways but the taxiways and parking areas, but that maybe has changed
since Feb?
/Nisse
--
Remove the obvious part before replying by mail please!
>
> On 24 Mar 2007 03:19:09 -0700 'Tchiowa'
> posted this onto rec.travel.air:
>
> >I've flown in and out of the new airport a couple of times
> >domestically. My wife and I just returned from my first international
> >trip using Suvarnabhumi instead of Don Muang.
> >
> >First the good. All of the whining and complaining about the new
> >airport appears to be just the standard "growing pains". Check in on
> >departure was fast. The airport fee is now included in the ticket
> >price so that delay is gone. Immigration was standard for Thailand
> >(slow). I flew Singapore Air. They don't have their own lounge as they
> >did in Don Muang but the Thai Airways lounge is top drawer.
> >
> >On arrival the landing was smooth. I didn't see the rough tarmac that
> >people had complained about. Taxiing was actually smoother than
> >Changi. 5 minute walk to Immigration (lucked out on that one). Only 4
> >people in front of me at the Immigration line so that only took a few
> >minutes. Checked luggage was a bit slow but not bad.
> >
> >Then came the bad. There are so many taxi touts that it is difficult
> >to walk through the terminal. Several tried to escort us. A couple
> >tried to take our bags off the cart to "be helpful". Out the door and
> >the closest road is reserved for taxis and limos. We had to walk to
> >the center divider to the second road so that my driver could meet us.
> >
> >AOT needs to deal with the taxi tout situation. It's a whole bunch
> >worse than Don Muang. But other than that the experience at
> >Suvarnabhumi was actually better than it usually was at DM.
>
> There's been a lot of recent press comment in Asia about the new
> airport's problems ...cracks in the runways,
<snip snap>
Actually I think the Thai Newspapers wrote Taxiways, not actually the
runways but the taxiways and parking areas, but that maybe has changed
since Feb?
/Nisse
--
Remove the obvious part before replying by mail please!
"Tchiowa" <tchiowa2@hotmail.com> writes:
> AOT needs to deal with the taxi tout situation. It's a whole bunch
> worse than Don Muang. But other than that the experience at
> Suvarnabhumi was actually better than it usually was at DM.
>
No problem at all.
There were a few touts at Don Muang, and there are a few at
Suvarnabhumi. Just ignore them, move to the ground floor and pick your
taxi from there.
> AOT needs to deal with the taxi tout situation. It's a whole bunch
> worse than Don Muang. But other than that the experience at
> Suvarnabhumi was actually better than it usually was at DM.
>
No problem at all.
There were a few touts at Don Muang, and there are a few at
Suvarnabhumi. Just ignore them, move to the ground floor and pick your
taxi from there.
On Mar 25, 3:35 am, Markus Weiss <m...@yahooo.com> wrote:
> "Tchiowa" <tchio...@hotmail.com> writes:
> > AOT needs to deal with the taxi tout situation. It's a whole bunch
> > worse than Don Muang. But other than that the experience at
> > Suvarnabhumi was actually better than it usually was at DM.
>
> No problem at all.
>
> There were a few touts at Don Muang, and there are a few at
> Suvarnabhumi. Just ignore them, move to the ground floor and pick your
> taxi from there.
There are more than "a few" at Suvarnabhumi. In a couple of spots it
was nearly impossible to wheel a luggage cart between them.
> "Tchiowa" <tchio...@hotmail.com> writes:
> > AOT needs to deal with the taxi tout situation. It's a whole bunch
> > worse than Don Muang. But other than that the experience at
> > Suvarnabhumi was actually better than it usually was at DM.
>
> No problem at all.
>
> There were a few touts at Don Muang, and there are a few at
> Suvarnabhumi. Just ignore them, move to the ground floor and pick your
> taxi from there.
There are more than "a few" at Suvarnabhumi. In a couple of spots it
was nearly impossible to wheel a luggage cart between them.
On Mar 25, 5:45 pm, "Tchiowa" <tchio...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Mar 25, 3:35 am, Markus Weiss <m...@yahooo.com> wrote:
>
> > "Tchiowa" <tchio...@hotmail.com> writes:
> > > AOT needs to deal with the taxi tout situation. It's a whole bunch
> > > worse than Don Muang. But other than that the experience at
> > > Suvarnabhumi was actually better than it usually was at DM.
>
> > No problem at all.
>
> > There were a few touts at Don Muang, and there are a few at
> > Suvarnabhumi. Just ignore them, move to the ground floor and pick your
> > taxi from there.
>
> There are more than "a few" at Suvarnabhumi. In a couple of spots it
> was nearly impossible to wheel a luggage cart between them.
That is because you TCHIOWA are to fat for that - has nothing to do
with the luggage!
I had no problem you idiot and so had my wife!
> On Mar 25, 3:35 am, Markus Weiss <m...@yahooo.com> wrote:
>
> > "Tchiowa" <tchio...@hotmail.com> writes:
> > > AOT needs to deal with the taxi tout situation. It's a whole bunch
> > > worse than Don Muang. But other than that the experience at
> > > Suvarnabhumi was actually better than it usually was at DM.
>
> > No problem at all.
>
> > There were a few touts at Don Muang, and there are a few at
> > Suvarnabhumi. Just ignore them, move to the ground floor and pick your
> > taxi from there.
>
> There are more than "a few" at Suvarnabhumi. In a couple of spots it
> was nearly impossible to wheel a luggage cart between them.
That is because you TCHIOWA are to fat for that - has nothing to do
with the luggage!
I had no problem you idiot and so had my wife!
On Mar 25, 9:29 pm, "Chabon 19" <chabo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mar 25, 5:45 pm, "Tchiowa" <tchio...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Mar 25, 3:35 am, Markus Weiss <m...@yahooo.com> wrote:
>
> > > "Tchiowa" <tchio...@hotmail.com> writes:
> > > > AOT needs to deal with the taxi tout situation. It's a whole bunch
> > > > worse than Don Muang. But other than that the experience at
> > > > Suvarnabhumi was actually better than it usually was at DM.
>
> > > No problem at all.
>
> > > There were a few touts at Don Muang, and there are a few at
> > > Suvarnabhumi. Just ignore them, move to the ground floor and pick your
> > > taxi from there.
>
> > There are more than "a few" at Suvarnabhumi. In a couple of spots it
> > was nearly impossible to wheel a luggage cart between them.
>
> That is because you TCHIOWA are to fat for that - has nothing to do
> with the luggage!
> I had no problem you idiot and so had my wife!
You haven't flown international for years. The taxi tout problem is
much different at the international arrival gates.
> On Mar 25, 5:45 pm, "Tchiowa" <tchio...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Mar 25, 3:35 am, Markus Weiss <m...@yahooo.com> wrote:
>
> > > "Tchiowa" <tchio...@hotmail.com> writes:
> > > > AOT needs to deal with the taxi tout situation. It's a whole bunch
> > > > worse than Don Muang. But other than that the experience at
> > > > Suvarnabhumi was actually better than it usually was at DM.
>
> > > No problem at all.
>
> > > There were a few touts at Don Muang, and there are a few at
> > > Suvarnabhumi. Just ignore them, move to the ground floor and pick your
> > > taxi from there.
>
> > There are more than "a few" at Suvarnabhumi. In a couple of spots it
> > was nearly impossible to wheel a luggage cart between them.
>
> That is because you TCHIOWA are to fat for that - has nothing to do
> with the luggage!
> I had no problem you idiot and so had my wife!
You haven't flown international for years. The taxi tout problem is
much different at the international arrival gates.
On 25 Mar 2007 03:45:32 -0700 'Tchiowa'
posted this onto rec.travel.air:
>On Mar 25, 3:35 am, Markus Weiss <m...@yahooo.com> wrote:
>> "Tchiowa" <tchio...@hotmail.com> writes:
>> > AOT needs to deal with the taxi tout situation. It's a whole bunch
>> > worse than Don Muang. But other than that the experience at
>> > Suvarnabhumi was actually better than it usually was at DM.
>>
>> No problem at all.
>>
>> There were a few touts at Don Muang, and there are a few at
>> Suvarnabhumi. Just ignore them, move to the ground floor and pick your
>> taxi from there.
>
>There are more than "a few" at Suvarnabhumi. In a couple of spots it
>was nearly impossible to wheel a luggage cart between them.
Agreed. The taxi touts are everywhere getting in the way
...as I said earlier, to the point of extreme annoyance.
posted this onto rec.travel.air:
>On Mar 25, 3:35 am, Markus Weiss <m...@yahooo.com> wrote:
>> "Tchiowa" <tchio...@hotmail.com> writes:
>> > AOT needs to deal with the taxi tout situation. It's a whole bunch
>> > worse than Don Muang. But other than that the experience at
>> > Suvarnabhumi was actually better than it usually was at DM.
>>
>> No problem at all.
>>
>> There were a few touts at Don Muang, and there are a few at
>> Suvarnabhumi. Just ignore them, move to the ground floor and pick your
>> taxi from there.
>
>There are more than "a few" at Suvarnabhumi. In a couple of spots it
>was nearly impossible to wheel a luggage cart between them.
Agreed. The taxi touts are everywhere getting in the way
...as I said earlier, to the point of extreme annoyance.
On Mar 26, 2:44 am, "maxwell" <mmmaxw...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> "Tchiowa" <tchio...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> If I'd wanted to be formally polite to touts who got in my face I'd have
> included the particle--which I did at times, though always the smile. Funny
> how smiles given get smiles back--you must be quite the dour John by
> comparison. Thanks for stating the obvious ;~)
>
> > > > A couple tried to take our bags off the cart to "be helpful".
>
> > > Surprising! Does 'tchiowa' look particularly timid? ;~)
>
> > Apparently they thought I looked like I could afford to pay for a taxi.
>
> You apparently looked different.
>
> LOL ! VERY hungry !
>
****** Speaking of Tchiowa and taxies..............This is what advice
our tubby little friend gives to others.....
From: "Joao Borboleta" <tchiowa2@xxxxxxx.xxxx
True, that's cheap. But for $10-15 more you take a taxi from the
airport
queue directly to your hotel in Pattaya, don't wait even one minute
for a
bus, don't go to the bus terminal, don't wait there for another bus,
don't
ride in a bus to Pattaya, and don't change to a taxi at the bus
station. I'm
either in my hotel asleep, eating at a nice restaurant, or
"misbehaving" at
a local go-go while you're still on the bus.
For me that's easily worth the extra $10.
****** Note the misbehaving???? And him a "married" man as well.
> "Tchiowa" <tchio...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> If I'd wanted to be formally polite to touts who got in my face I'd have
> included the particle--which I did at times, though always the smile. Funny
> how smiles given get smiles back--you must be quite the dour John by
> comparison. Thanks for stating the obvious ;~)
>
> > > > A couple tried to take our bags off the cart to "be helpful".
>
> > > Surprising! Does 'tchiowa' look particularly timid? ;~)
>
> > Apparently they thought I looked like I could afford to pay for a taxi.
>
> You apparently looked different.
>
> LOL ! VERY hungry !
>
****** Speaking of Tchiowa and taxies..............This is what advice
our tubby little friend gives to others.....
From: "Joao Borboleta" <tchiowa2@xxxxxxx.xxxx
True, that's cheap. But for $10-15 more you take a taxi from the
airport
queue directly to your hotel in Pattaya, don't wait even one minute
for a
bus, don't go to the bus terminal, don't wait there for another bus,
don't
ride in a bus to Pattaya, and don't change to a taxi at the bus
station. I'm
either in my hotel asleep, eating at a nice restaurant, or
"misbehaving" at
a local go-go while you're still on the bus.
For me that's easily worth the extra $10.
****** Note the misbehaving???? And him a "married" man as well.
On Mar 25, 9:44 pm, "maxwell" <mmmaxw...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> "Tchiowa" <tchio...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1174819409.640617.250030@d57g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
>
> > On Mar 24, 9:39 pm, "maxwell" <mmmaxw...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > "hummingbird" wrote ...> On 24 Mar 2007 03:19:09 -0700 'Tchiowa'
> > > > posted this onto rec.travel.air:
>
> FIRST PARAGRAPH:> > > >I've flown in and out of the new airport a couple of times
>
> domestically. My wife and I just returned from my first international trip
> using Suvarnabhumi instead of Don Muang.
>
> That's a RETURN. (noted WRT downpage detritus)
But no detail there. Now when I start talking about detail, the first
paragraph *AS YOU QUOTE BELOW* says very specifically "Check in on
departure was fast....." and then mentions Immigration. Try reading in
context. Tough for you Lefties, I realize. But give it a whirl.
<snip>
> > > > Check in on departure was fast. The airport fee is now included in the
> > > > ticketprice so that delay is gone.
>
> > > Umm, yes, and that's nothing that could not have been done at Don Muang.
>
> > But it wasn't, was it?
>
> Immaterial. Fact is that as it's something that happened under the current
> regime, your intentional ignorance is noted.
Your intentional misreading is noted. I wasn't talking about what
happened under any regime. Comparing old and new airports was all. Pay
attention.
> >Or did you come to Thailand so rarely that you had forgotten that?
>
> You have a reading comprehension and/or logic deficiency problem?
> ""nothing that could not have been done at Don Muang."" directly implies it
> was not done at Don Muang.
> . .now weasel away from that . .
Then why did you complain about the statement?
Interesting that a very mild and non-controversial post you choose to
turn into a fight. I guess you're reverting to your uB/Urbane/e-Dog
persona.
<snip>
> > > > >Then came the bad. There are so many taxi touts that it is difficult
> > > > > to walk through the terminal. Several tried to escort us.
>
> > > I found simply shaking my head and declaring "Mai ao !" while smiling
> > > more than sufficed to repel taxi touts.
>
> > "Mai ao krap" would have been better.
>
> If I'd wanted to be formally polite to touts who got in my face I'd have
> included the particle--which I did at times, though always the smile. Funny
> how smiles given get smiles back--you must be quite the dour John by
> comparison. Thanks for stating the obvious ;~)
I see. You smiled and spoke rudely. Apparently you know even less
about Thailand than I thought.
> > > > Out the door and the closest road is reserved for taxis and limos. We
>
> had to walk to the center divider to the second road so that my driver could
> meet us.
>
> > > Umm, that's how many meters compared to the hundreds of meters in from
>
> the gates?
>
> > Read above. No "hundreds of meters" involved from the gates.
>
> <q>from my first international trip </q>
>
> LOL !
> Were you unconscious and taken off the plane in a wheelchair? ;~)
No. It took less than 5 minutes to get from the gate to Immigration.
Please try to read before you respond. Also think.
> > And that's irrelevant.
>
> LMAO! Now the lord of ambulatory whining declares one part of the arrival
> passage from plane irrelevant--the LONGEST part, so that it can 'justify'
> crying about an ENTIRE crossing of a lane in the road!
Actually the shortest part. It was longer from Immigration to an exit
door than gate to Immigration.
> Were this not so pedestrian (yah, two meanings ;~) it might almost be funny.
>
> >The additional walk and pushing a cart through to the center area is simply
>
> unnecessary.
>
> Poor dear.
> I found that the FAR better access from parking than at Don Muang made an
> easy short haul from the elevator (up to 4th level) and across to my inlaws'
> auto when arriving internationally. Sorry (not) that no one meets you when
> you arrive (who isn't needing money in hand for the experience), but that's
> not surprising.
I see. So now you are acknowledging using the departure area at DM for
arrivals in direct opposition to the laws and intent. Is there a
reason you don't just use the arrivals area? Or are you just one of
those who think you are too good for the rules?
Also interesting that you have to rely on your wife's family to
provide you transportation. Or is that just something you made up?
After all you *DID* say that you used the free bus.
As to the rest: yes, I employ a Thai driver. And a Thai maid. I *add*
to Thailand rather than being a parasite.
> > > > >AOT needs to deal with the taxi tout situation. It's a whole bunch
> > > > > worse than Don Muang.
>
> > > Don Muang was more annoyingly 'touted up' in my experience.
>
> > "Experience"? One visit every other year doesn't really add up to a whole
> > lot of "experience".
>
> I've previously offered the wager you've ignored.
I don't recall a wager but if you think you can prove it, give it a
whirl.
> > > > There's been a lot of recent press comment in Asia about the new
> > > > airport's problems ...cracks in the runways, taxiways and poor water
> > > > drainage etc and I believe it must be true, although I didn't actually see
> > > > any of it when I landed domestically 16th Feb and left 20th Feb.
>
> > > Apparently 'tchiowa' did not sit in the pilot's cabin ;~)
>
> > Cracks in the runway can be felt as you taxi over them.
>
> Nonsense. LARGE cracks could be felt, as can ripples in the tarmac.
And you can feel those in Changi as you could in DM but not in
Suvarnabhumi.
> > > We saw (or rather, passed by) that coach (or a similar one--on bottom
> > > level 1) on the way to the free shuttle to the public bus terminal--it
> > > looked like a poor way to spend a large bus fare, especially as the public
> > > buses are clean and spacious, and run frequently from the bus terminal.
>
> > 5555555555 "Free"? I guess that's why the taxi touts didn't go after you.
>
> You look like someone looking for something for "free".
>
> A desperate thing, you, and one whose actual commingling with Thai is
> apparently limited to those you hire for service.
And marry and work with and socialize with and live among.
> Returning from Hat Yai (Air Asia) we enjoyed seeing my wife's niece off on her bus from the public
> terminal,
I see. You arrived on a domestic flight and then when over to the
International gates to look at the signs?
> and then took ours to Nonthaburi (the bus continues on to
> Rangsit), from which we cabbed out to Bang Bua Thong. ALL of your inlaws are
> up on the plateau, is that the deal?
Hmmm. I thought your inlaws picked you up in their car. You need to
start working on keeping your lies straight.
> "Tchiowa" <tchio...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1174819409.640617.250030@d57g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
>
> > On Mar 24, 9:39 pm, "maxwell" <mmmaxw...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > "hummingbird" wrote ...> On 24 Mar 2007 03:19:09 -0700 'Tchiowa'
> > > > posted this onto rec.travel.air:
>
> FIRST PARAGRAPH:> > > >I've flown in and out of the new airport a couple of times
>
> domestically. My wife and I just returned from my first international trip
> using Suvarnabhumi instead of Don Muang.
>
> That's a RETURN. (noted WRT downpage detritus)
But no detail there. Now when I start talking about detail, the first
paragraph *AS YOU QUOTE BELOW* says very specifically "Check in on
departure was fast....." and then mentions Immigration. Try reading in
context. Tough for you Lefties, I realize. But give it a whirl.
<snip>
> > > > Check in on departure was fast. The airport fee is now included in the
> > > > ticketprice so that delay is gone.
>
> > > Umm, yes, and that's nothing that could not have been done at Don Muang.
>
> > But it wasn't, was it?
>
> Immaterial. Fact is that as it's something that happened under the current
> regime, your intentional ignorance is noted.
Your intentional misreading is noted. I wasn't talking about what
happened under any regime. Comparing old and new airports was all. Pay
attention.
> >Or did you come to Thailand so rarely that you had forgotten that?
>
> You have a reading comprehension and/or logic deficiency problem?
> ""nothing that could not have been done at Don Muang."" directly implies it
> was not done at Don Muang.
> . .now weasel away from that . .
Then why did you complain about the statement?
Interesting that a very mild and non-controversial post you choose to
turn into a fight. I guess you're reverting to your uB/Urbane/e-Dog
persona.
<snip>
> > > > >Then came the bad. There are so many taxi touts that it is difficult
> > > > > to walk through the terminal. Several tried to escort us.
>
> > > I found simply shaking my head and declaring "Mai ao !" while smiling
> > > more than sufficed to repel taxi touts.
>
> > "Mai ao krap" would have been better.
>
> If I'd wanted to be formally polite to touts who got in my face I'd have
> included the particle--which I did at times, though always the smile. Funny
> how smiles given get smiles back--you must be quite the dour John by
> comparison. Thanks for stating the obvious ;~)
I see. You smiled and spoke rudely. Apparently you know even less
about Thailand than I thought.
> > > > Out the door and the closest road is reserved for taxis and limos. We
>
> had to walk to the center divider to the second road so that my driver could
> meet us.
>
> > > Umm, that's how many meters compared to the hundreds of meters in from
>
> the gates?
>
> > Read above. No "hundreds of meters" involved from the gates.
>
> <q>from my first international trip </q>
>
> LOL !
> Were you unconscious and taken off the plane in a wheelchair? ;~)
No. It took less than 5 minutes to get from the gate to Immigration.
Please try to read before you respond. Also think.
> > And that's irrelevant.
>
> LMAO! Now the lord of ambulatory whining declares one part of the arrival
> passage from plane irrelevant--the LONGEST part, so that it can 'justify'
> crying about an ENTIRE crossing of a lane in the road!
Actually the shortest part. It was longer from Immigration to an exit
door than gate to Immigration.
> Were this not so pedestrian (yah, two meanings ;~) it might almost be funny.
>
> >The additional walk and pushing a cart through to the center area is simply
>
> unnecessary.
>
> Poor dear.
> I found that the FAR better access from parking than at Don Muang made an
> easy short haul from the elevator (up to 4th level) and across to my inlaws'
> auto when arriving internationally. Sorry (not) that no one meets you when
> you arrive (who isn't needing money in hand for the experience), but that's
> not surprising.
I see. So now you are acknowledging using the departure area at DM for
arrivals in direct opposition to the laws and intent. Is there a
reason you don't just use the arrivals area? Or are you just one of
those who think you are too good for the rules?
Also interesting that you have to rely on your wife's family to
provide you transportation. Or is that just something you made up?
After all you *DID* say that you used the free bus.
As to the rest: yes, I employ a Thai driver. And a Thai maid. I *add*
to Thailand rather than being a parasite.
> > > > >AOT needs to deal with the taxi tout situation. It's a whole bunch
> > > > > worse than Don Muang.
>
> > > Don Muang was more annoyingly 'touted up' in my experience.
>
> > "Experience"? One visit every other year doesn't really add up to a whole
> > lot of "experience".
>
> I've previously offered the wager you've ignored.
I don't recall a wager but if you think you can prove it, give it a
whirl.
> > > > There's been a lot of recent press comment in Asia about the new
> > > > airport's problems ...cracks in the runways, taxiways and poor water
> > > > drainage etc and I believe it must be true, although I didn't actually see
> > > > any of it when I landed domestically 16th Feb and left 20th Feb.
>
> > > Apparently 'tchiowa' did not sit in the pilot's cabin ;~)
>
> > Cracks in the runway can be felt as you taxi over them.
>
> Nonsense. LARGE cracks could be felt, as can ripples in the tarmac.
And you can feel those in Changi as you could in DM but not in
Suvarnabhumi.
> > > We saw (or rather, passed by) that coach (or a similar one--on bottom
> > > level 1) on the way to the free shuttle to the public bus terminal--it
> > > looked like a poor way to spend a large bus fare, especially as the public
> > > buses are clean and spacious, and run frequently from the bus terminal.
>
> > 5555555555 "Free"? I guess that's why the taxi touts didn't go after you.
>
> You look like someone looking for something for "free".
>
> A desperate thing, you, and one whose actual commingling with Thai is
> apparently limited to those you hire for service.
And marry and work with and socialize with and live among.
> Returning from Hat Yai (Air Asia) we enjoyed seeing my wife's niece off on her bus from the public
> terminal,
I see. You arrived on a domestic flight and then when over to the
International gates to look at the signs?
> and then took ours to Nonthaburi (the bus continues on to
> Rangsit), from which we cabbed out to Bang Bua Thong. ALL of your inlaws are
> up on the plateau, is that the deal?
Hmmm. I thought your inlaws picked you up in their car. You need to
start working on keeping your lies straight.
I'll cut to the reading comprehension delight ;~)
"Tchiowa" <tchiowa2@hotmail.com> wrote ...
> "maxwell" <mmmaxw...@hotmail.com> wrote:
<~>
> > >The additional walk and pushing a cart through to the center area is
simply unnecessary.
> >
> > Poor dear.
> > I found that the FAR better access from parking than at Don Muang made
an easy short haul from the elevator (up to 4th level) and across to my
inlaws' auto when arriving internationally. Sorry (not) that no one meets
you when you arrive (who isn't needing money in hand for the experience),
but that's
> > not surprising.
>
> I see. So now you are acknowledging using the departure area at DM for
arrivals in direct opposition to the laws and intent.
<QUOTE> FAR better access from parking than at Don Muang </Q>
annnnnd:
<QUOTE> an easy short haul from the elevator (up to 4th level) and across to
my inlaws' auto when arriving internationally </Q>
So, mind telling how that has anything to do with OTHER than Swanaboom?
LMAO!
You are SO desperate !
>Is there a reason you don't just use the arrivals area? Or are you just one
of those who think you are too good for the rules?
Dig the hole deeper.
> Also interesting that you have to rely on your wife's family to
> provide you transportation.
Pay attention.
One arrival was international.
One arrival was domestic.
Or is that just something you made up?
> After all you *DID* say that you used the free bus.
You're funny-almost.
> As to the rest: yes, I employ a Thai driver. And a Thai maid. I *add* to
Thailand rather than being a parasite.
LOL ! You truly are pathetic.
> > > > > >AOT needs to deal with the taxi tout situation. It's a whole
bunch worse than Don Muang.
> >
> > > > Don Muang was more annoyingly 'touted up' in my experience.
> >
> > > "Experience"? One visit every other year doesn't really add up to a
whole
> > > lot of "experience".
> >
> > I've previously offered the wager you've ignored.
>
> I don't recall a wager but if you think you can prove it, give it a whirl.
Let's sort out the escrow banker, the terms, and the amount you'd like to
lose--and designate a legal venue.
Your claim is 'I visit every other year'
Let's give you a chance not to lose, LOL!
Period: 2002-2007.
How many BKK arrival stamps in my US passport and you'll cede defeat and pay
up?
Make it a rich enough bet--bare minimum $10K, though I'd prefer to put much
more at risk.
Got any nads or just mouth?
> > > > > There's been a lot of recent press comment in Asia about the new
airport's problems ...cracks in the runways, taxiways and poor water
> > > > > drainage etc and I believe it must be true, although I didn't
actually see
> > > > > any of it when I landed domestically 16th Feb and left 20th Feb.
> >
> > > > Apparently 'tchiowa' did not sit in the pilot's cabin ;~)
> >
> > > Cracks in the runway can be felt as you taxi over them.
> >
> > Nonsense. LARGE cracks could be felt, as can ripples in the tarmac.
>
> And you can feel those in Changi as you could in DM but not in
> Suvarnabhumi.
So you say.
> > > > We saw (or rather, passed by) that coach (or a similar one--on
bottom level 1) on the way to the free shuttle to the public bus
terminal--it looked like a poor way to spend a large bus fare, especially as
the public buses are clean and spacious, and run frequently from the bus
terminal.
> >
> > > 5555555555 "Free"? I guess that's why the taxi touts didn't go after
you.
> >
> > You look like someone looking for something for "free".
> >
> > A desperate thing, you, and one whose actual commingling with Thai is
apparently limited to those you hire for service.
>
> And marry and work with and socialize with and live among.
So, other than your spouse, you have no family in BKK area?
> > Returning from Hat Yai (Air Asia) we enjoyed seeing my wife's niece off
on her bus from the public terminal,
>
> I see. You arrived on a domestic flight and then when over to the
> International gates to look at the signs?
Huh? You're rather confused here. Desperate, too.
>
> > and then took ours to Nonthaburi (the bus continues on to
> > Rangsit), from which we cabbed out to Bang Bua Thong. ALL of your inlaws
are up on the plateau, is that the deal?
>
> Hmmm. I thought your inlaws picked you up in their car. You need to start
working on keeping your lies straight.
LOL ! Your desperation AND reading deficiency is transparent.
Take some time to think about:
1. When one goes through immigration.
2. Whether one goes through immigration when flying WITHIN LOS.
You're *almost* funny !
"Tchiowa" <tchiowa2@hotmail.com> wrote ...
> "maxwell" <mmmaxw...@hotmail.com> wrote:
<~>
> > >The additional walk and pushing a cart through to the center area is
simply unnecessary.
> >
> > Poor dear.
> > I found that the FAR better access from parking than at Don Muang made
an easy short haul from the elevator (up to 4th level) and across to my
inlaws' auto when arriving internationally. Sorry (not) that no one meets
you when you arrive (who isn't needing money in hand for the experience),
but that's
> > not surprising.
>
> I see. So now you are acknowledging using the departure area at DM for
arrivals in direct opposition to the laws and intent.
<QUOTE> FAR better access from parking than at Don Muang </Q>
annnnnd:
<QUOTE> an easy short haul from the elevator (up to 4th level) and across to
my inlaws' auto when arriving internationally </Q>
So, mind telling how that has anything to do with OTHER than Swanaboom?
LMAO!
You are SO desperate !
>Is there a reason you don't just use the arrivals area? Or are you just one
of those who think you are too good for the rules?
Dig the hole deeper.
> Also interesting that you have to rely on your wife's family to
> provide you transportation.
Pay attention.
One arrival was international.
One arrival was domestic.
Or is that just something you made up?
> After all you *DID* say that you used the free bus.
You're funny-almost.
> As to the rest: yes, I employ a Thai driver. And a Thai maid. I *add* to
Thailand rather than being a parasite.
LOL ! You truly are pathetic.
> > > > > >AOT needs to deal with the taxi tout situation. It's a whole
bunch worse than Don Muang.
> >
> > > > Don Muang was more annoyingly 'touted up' in my experience.
> >
> > > "Experience"? One visit every other year doesn't really add up to a
whole
> > > lot of "experience".
> >
> > I've previously offered the wager you've ignored.
>
> I don't recall a wager but if you think you can prove it, give it a whirl.
Let's sort out the escrow banker, the terms, and the amount you'd like to
lose--and designate a legal venue.
Your claim is 'I visit every other year'
Let's give you a chance not to lose, LOL!
Period: 2002-2007.
How many BKK arrival stamps in my US passport and you'll cede defeat and pay
up?
Make it a rich enough bet--bare minimum $10K, though I'd prefer to put much
more at risk.
Got any nads or just mouth?
> > > > > There's been a lot of recent press comment in Asia about the new
airport's problems ...cracks in the runways, taxiways and poor water
> > > > > drainage etc and I believe it must be true, although I didn't
actually see
> > > > > any of it when I landed domestically 16th Feb and left 20th Feb.
> >
> > > > Apparently 'tchiowa' did not sit in the pilot's cabin ;~)
> >
> > > Cracks in the runway can be felt as you taxi over them.
> >
> > Nonsense. LARGE cracks could be felt, as can ripples in the tarmac.
>
> And you can feel those in Changi as you could in DM but not in
> Suvarnabhumi.
So you say.
> > > > We saw (or rather, passed by) that coach (or a similar one--on
bottom level 1) on the way to the free shuttle to the public bus
terminal--it looked like a poor way to spend a large bus fare, especially as
the public buses are clean and spacious, and run frequently from the bus
terminal.
> >
> > > 5555555555 "Free"? I guess that's why the taxi touts didn't go after
you.
> >
> > You look like someone looking for something for "free".
> >
> > A desperate thing, you, and one whose actual commingling with Thai is
apparently limited to those you hire for service.
>
> And marry and work with and socialize with and live among.
So, other than your spouse, you have no family in BKK area?
> > Returning from Hat Yai (Air Asia) we enjoyed seeing my wife's niece off
on her bus from the public terminal,
>
> I see. You arrived on a domestic flight and then when over to the
> International gates to look at the signs?
Huh? You're rather confused here. Desperate, too.
>
> > and then took ours to Nonthaburi (the bus continues on to
> > Rangsit), from which we cabbed out to Bang Bua Thong. ALL of your inlaws
are up on the plateau, is that the deal?
>
> Hmmm. I thought your inlaws picked you up in their car. You need to start
working on keeping your lies straight.
LOL ! Your desperation AND reading deficiency is transparent.
Take some time to think about:
1. When one goes through immigration.
2. Whether one goes through immigration when flying WITHIN LOS.
You're *almost* funny !
"maxwell" <mmmaxwell@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:nYENh.5827$vI1.216@trnddc02...
> I'll cut to the reading comprehension delight ;~)
> "Tchiowa" <tchiowa2@hotmail.com> wrote ...
<snipped>
> Or are you just one of those who think you are too good for the rules?
This statement being written by Mr. Neilsson who has been claiming over and
over in several forums that "overstaying a visa was recommended and
advisable".
news:nYENh.5827$vI1.216@trnddc02...
> I'll cut to the reading comprehension delight ;~)
> "Tchiowa" <tchiowa2@hotmail.com> wrote ...
<snipped>
> Or are you just one of those who think you are too good for the rules?
This statement being written by Mr. Neilsson who has been claiming over and
over in several forums that "overstaying a visa was recommended and
advisable".
On Mar 26, 8:02 am, "maxwell" <mmmaxw...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> I'll cut to the reading comprehension delight ;~)
Gee, let's.
<snip>
> So, mind telling how that has anything to do with OTHER than Swanaboom?
I see. So now you don't even know the name of the airport?
Even if you are trying to invent your own transliteration of the Thai,
you missed a syllable and a couple of letters.
> > Also interesting that you have to rely on your wife's family to
> > provide you transportation.
>
> Pay attention.
> One arrival was international.
> One arrival was domestic.
I see. So when you're caught not knowing what you're talking about you
need to toss in new information and pretend you said that all along.
> > Or is that just something you made up?
>
> > After all you *DID* say that you used the free bus.
>
> You're funny-almost.
Did you say it or not?
> > > > > > >AOT needs to deal with the taxi tout situation. It's a whole
> > > > > > > bunch worse than Don Muang.
>
> > > > > Don Muang was more annoyingly 'touted up' in my experience.
>
> > > > "Experience"? One visit every other year doesn't really add up to a
> > > > whole lot of "experience".
>
> > > I've previously offered the wager you've ignored.
>
> > I don't recall a wager but if you think you can prove it, give it a whirl.
>
> Let's sort out the escrow banker, the terms, and the amount you'd like to
> lose--and designate a legal venue.
> Your claim is 'I visit every other year'
> Let's give you a chance not to lose, LOL!
> Period: 2002-2007.
5555555 How about 2006 and 2007?
> How many BKK arrival stamps in my US passport and you'll cede defeat and pay up?
Half as many as mine or you lose. Fair enough? 2 to 1 odds.
> Make it a rich enough bet--bare minimum $10K, though I'd prefer to put much
> more at risk.
> Got any nads or just mouth?
Why bother with a couple of weeks salary? Let's make it real. How
about 6 months salary? (Oops, you did that, didn't you? Sorry.)
OK. Let's make it easy. 1/3 as many as me during that period. Fair
enough now?
> > > Nonsense. LARGE cracks could be felt, as can ripples in the tarmac.
>
> > And you can feel those in Changi as you could in DM but not in Suvarnabhumi.
>
> So you say.
If you had actually landed at these airports you'd know.
<snip>
> > And marry and work with and socialize with and live among.
>
> So, other than your spouse, you have no family in BKK area?
Family in Chaiyaphum. Friends and colleagues in Bangkok. And Hat Yai.
And Songkhla. And Rayong.
> > > Returning from Hat Yai (Air Asia) we enjoyed seeing my wife's niece off
> > > on her bus from the public terminal,
>
> > I see. You arrived on a domestic flight and then when over to the
> > International gates to look at the signs?
>
> Huh? You're rather confused here. Desperate, too.
The discussion was about International. Quite specifically. Do you
find the difference between International and Domestic to be
confusing?
> > > and then took ours to Nonthaburi (the bus continues on to
> > > Rangsit), from which we cabbed out to Bang Bua Thong. ALL of your inlaws
> > > are up on the plateau, is that the deal?
>
> > Hmmm. I thought your inlaws picked you up in their car. You need to start
> > working on keeping your lies straight.
>
> LOL ! Your desperation AND reading deficiency is transparent.
> Take some time to think about:
> 1. When one goes through immigration.
> 2. Whether one goes through immigration when flying WITHIN LOS.
The topic was specifically International. That means Immigration.
Further you still got caught lying. You said that your inlaws picked
you up in their car now you admit you took the bus.
So let me know when you're willing to make the bet. Is 1/4 as many
entries as I have 2002-2007 fair enough, Mr. "Experience"?
> I'll cut to the reading comprehension delight ;~)
Gee, let's.
<snip>
> So, mind telling how that has anything to do with OTHER than Swanaboom?
I see. So now you don't even know the name of the airport?
Even if you are trying to invent your own transliteration of the Thai,
you missed a syllable and a couple of letters.
> > Also interesting that you have to rely on your wife's family to
> > provide you transportation.
>
> Pay attention.
> One arrival was international.
> One arrival was domestic.
I see. So when you're caught not knowing what you're talking about you
need to toss in new information and pretend you said that all along.
> > Or is that just something you made up?
>
> > After all you *DID* say that you used the free bus.
>
> You're funny-almost.
Did you say it or not?
> > > > > > >AOT needs to deal with the taxi tout situation. It's a whole
> > > > > > > bunch worse than Don Muang.
>
> > > > > Don Muang was more annoyingly 'touted up' in my experience.
>
> > > > "Experience"? One visit every other year doesn't really add up to a
> > > > whole lot of "experience".
>
> > > I've previously offered the wager you've ignored.
>
> > I don't recall a wager but if you think you can prove it, give it a whirl.
>
> Let's sort out the escrow banker, the terms, and the amount you'd like to
> lose--and designate a legal venue.
> Your claim is 'I visit every other year'
> Let's give you a chance not to lose, LOL!
> Period: 2002-2007.
5555555 How about 2006 and 2007?
> How many BKK arrival stamps in my US passport and you'll cede defeat and pay up?
Half as many as mine or you lose. Fair enough? 2 to 1 odds.
> Make it a rich enough bet--bare minimum $10K, though I'd prefer to put much
> more at risk.
> Got any nads or just mouth?
Why bother with a couple of weeks salary? Let's make it real. How
about 6 months salary? (Oops, you did that, didn't you? Sorry.)
OK. Let's make it easy. 1/3 as many as me during that period. Fair
enough now?
> > > Nonsense. LARGE cracks could be felt, as can ripples in the tarmac.
>
> > And you can feel those in Changi as you could in DM but not in Suvarnabhumi.
>
> So you say.
If you had actually landed at these airports you'd know.
<snip>
> > And marry and work with and socialize with and live among.
>
> So, other than your spouse, you have no family in BKK area?
Family in Chaiyaphum. Friends and colleagues in Bangkok. And Hat Yai.
And Songkhla. And Rayong.
> > > Returning from Hat Yai (Air Asia) we enjoyed seeing my wife's niece off
> > > on her bus from the public terminal,
>
> > I see. You arrived on a domestic flight and then when over to the
> > International gates to look at the signs?
>
> Huh? You're rather confused here. Desperate, too.
The discussion was about International. Quite specifically. Do you
find the difference between International and Domestic to be
confusing?
> > > and then took ours to Nonthaburi (the bus continues on to
> > > Rangsit), from which we cabbed out to Bang Bua Thong. ALL of your inlaws
> > > are up on the plateau, is that the deal?
>
> > Hmmm. I thought your inlaws picked you up in their car. You need to start
> > working on keeping your lies straight.
>
> LOL ! Your desperation AND reading deficiency is transparent.
> Take some time to think about:
> 1. When one goes through immigration.
> 2. Whether one goes through immigration when flying WITHIN LOS.
The topic was specifically International. That means Immigration.
Further you still got caught lying. You said that your inlaws picked
you up in their car now you admit you took the bus.
So let me know when you're willing to make the bet. Is 1/4 as many
entries as I have 2002-2007 fair enough, Mr. "Experience"?
