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Portable hard drive through airport security?

Reply from: BubbaGump
Date: 26 Mar, 03:02
I'm considering moving across the country and trying to plan some
details of the move. I have a portable USB hard drive that contains
some confidential info (I.e. passwords) that somehow needs to get from
where I live now to where I'll be moving. -- First, don't anyone say
not to store passwords on a portable drive because I use a different
one for each account, for security, and I have way too many too
remember them all. -- I figure the most secure way to store the drive
is to keep it either locked away or with me at all times, rather than
with whatever moving service I use.

I'm not worried about the metal detector. What I'm wondering is if
security will let the item through. It would be a drive by itself, so
I'd have no way to demonstrate it working, like I've heard is often
asked of laptop users. Would they simply let it be X-ray scanned then
allow it through?


Reply from: James Robinson
Date: 26 Mar, 03:12
BubbaGump <BubbaGump@localhost> wrote:

> What I'm wondering is if
> security will let the item through. It would be a drive by itself, so
> I'd have no way to demonstrate it working, like I've heard is often
> asked of laptop users. Would they simply let it be X-ray scanned then
> allow it through?

People bring all sorts of electronics through security, like electronics
technicians on their way to a job. They will want to pass it through the
xray machine, and might look more closely at it if the machine operator
wants to pull it aside. Otherwise, it shouldn't be a problem.

Reply from: Larry in AZ
Date: 26 Mar, 03:32
Waiving the right to remain silent, BubbaGump <BubbaGump@localhost> said:

> I'm not worried about the metal detector. What I'm wondering is if
> security will let the item through. It would be a drive by itself, so
> I'd have no way to demonstrate it working, like I've heard is often
> asked of laptop users. Would they simply let it be X-ray scanned then
> allow it through?

Showing laptops working hasn't been necessary for a long, long time. You are
required to take them out of their carrying case, but that's it.

I do that, and pass the case with USB drives and all sorts of other
electronic stuff and accessories through the scanner. They never even look
at the other stuff, unless they think I've got a cigarette lighter hidden in
there. ;-)

--
Larry J. - Remove spamtrap in ALLCAPS to e-mail

"A lack of common sense is now considered a disability,
with all the privileges that this entails."

Reply from: PeteCresswell
Date: 26 Mar, 14:28
Per Larry in AZ:
>Showing laptops working hasn't been necessary for a long, long time. You are
>required to take them out of their carrying case, but that's it.

Somebody explain to me why a laptop isn't the ideal bomb-carrying device -
especially one with a dock for a spare battery.
--
PeteCresswell

Reply from: Mike Hunt
Date: 26 Mar, 19:26
(PeteCresswell) wrote:

> Per Larry in AZ:
>
>>Showing laptops working hasn't been necessary for a long, long time. You are
>>required to take them out of their carrying case, but that's it.
>
>
> Somebody explain to me why a laptop isn't the ideal bomb-carrying device -
> especially one with a dock for a spare battery.

Laptops, the modern day radio/tape player? Remember Lockerbie


Reply from: PeteCresswell
Date: 26 Mar, 20:26
Per Mike Hunt:
>> Somebody explain to me why a laptop isn't the ideal bomb-carrying device -
>> especially one with a dock for a spare battery.
>
>Laptops, the modern day radio/tape player? Remember Lockerbie


Lockerbie was what prompted my comment. Didn't mention it bc I couldn't recall
how large/small the explosive-containing device was.... but it seems like if
Reid could get enough of the bad stuff in the heel of a shoe, a PC's secondary
battery bay could hold enough too.

That, plus the (fact?) that air cargo riding in the same planes as passenger
baggage isn't inspected makes me wonder if anybody is really trying to cause
mischief at the current time.
--
PeteCresswell

Reply from: Mike Hunt
Date: 26 Mar, 20:33
(PeteCresswell) wrote:

> That, plus the (fact?) that air cargo riding in the same planes as passenger
> baggage isn't inspected makes me wonder if anybody is really trying to cause
> mischief at the current time.

Ah, yes, but 5 1/2 years ago an event happened that cost the lives of
hundreds of thousands. A couple thousand in the blasts, and hundreds of
thousands in a war that our C in C said claimed victory in a few years ago.

I don't think the war gained us any friends, and probably gained us
enemies. Imagine you are a child growing up in a country with an
invading force. Would you appreciate them or despise them?

Reply from: Larry in AZ
Date: 26 Mar, 20:35
Waiving the right to remain silent, "(PeteCresswell)" <x@y.Invalid> said:

> Per Mike Hunt:
>>> Somebody explain to me why a laptop isn't the ideal bomb-carrying
>>> device - especially one with a dock for a spare battery.
>>
>>Laptops, the modern day radio/tape player? Remember Lockerbie
>
>
> Lockerbie was what prompted my comment. Didn't mention it bc I
> couldn't recall how large/small the explosive-containing device was....
> but it seems like if Reid could get enough of the bad stuff in the heel
> of a shoe, a PC's secondary battery bay could hold enough too.
>
> That, plus the (fact?) that air cargo riding in the same planes as
> passenger baggage isn't inspected makes me wonder if anybody is really
> trying to cause mischief at the current time.

Look... If someone REALLY wants to pull it off, they will. And it won't be
some dumbass Jamoke like Reid lighting match after match trying to set his
shoe on fire...

--
Larry J. - Remove spamtrap in ALLCAPS to e-mail

"A lack of common sense is now considered a disability,
with all the privileges that this entails."

Reply from: PTravel
Date: 26 Mar, 19:30

"(PeteCresswell)" <x@y.Invalid> wrote in message
news:b1ff039ocbs3ncvu2b7rdggfu17vvu7ls8@4ax.com...
> Per Larry in AZ:
>>Showing laptops working hasn't been necessary for a long, long time. You
>>are
>>required to take them out of their carrying case, but that's it.
>
> Somebody explain to me why a laptop isn't the ideal bomb-carrying device -
> especially one with a dock for a spare battery.

It is, which is why they are x-rayed separately. Apparently, the carryon
x-ray is sufficiently sensitive to discriminate between a block of C4 and a
laptop battery.

> --
> PeteCresswell


Reply from: PeteCresswell
Date: 26 Mar, 20:27
Per PTravel:
>It is, which is why they are x-rayed separately. Apparently, the carryon
>x-ray is sufficiently sensitive to discriminate between a block of C4 and a
>laptop battery.

That would explain a lot. Thanks.
--
PeteCresswell

Reply from: DevilsPGD
Date: 26 Mar, 20:46
In message <56qe98F2a4r0kU1@mid.individual.net> "PTravel"
<ptravel@travelersvideo.com> wrote:

>It is, which is why they are x-rayed separately. Apparently, the carryon
>x-ray is sufficiently sensitive to discriminate between a block of C4 and a
>laptop battery.

Dell can't even tell the difference in the machines they sell.
--
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Reply from: Mike Hunt
Date: 26 Mar, 20:55
PTravel wrote:

> It is, which is why they are x-rayed separately. Apparently, the
> carryon x-ray is sufficiently sensitive to discriminate between a block
> of C4 and a laptop battery.

So, the X-ray machine flashes "WARNING" on the screen to tell the
screener that it is C-4 and not a battery.


Reply from: Larry in AZ
Date: 26 Mar, 20:09
Waiving the right to remain silent, "(PeteCresswell)" <x@y.Invalid> said:

> Per Larry in AZ:
>>Showing laptops working hasn't been necessary for a long, long time.
>>You are required to take them out of their carrying case, but that's it.
>
> Somebody explain to me why a laptop isn't the ideal bomb-carrying device
> - especially one with a dock for a spare battery.

It is, but that isn't the point. The point is that turning them on is
meaningless.

--
Larry J. - Remove spamtrap in ALLCAPS to e-mail

"A lack of common sense is now considered a disability,
with all the privileges that this entails."

Reply from: Bucky
Date: 26 Mar, 08:44
On Mar 25, 6:02 pm, BubbaGump <BubbaGump@localhost> wrote:
> I'm not worried about the metal detector. What I'm wondering is if
> security will let the item through.

don't worry, I have taken usb flash drives dozens of times, never a
problem.

> don't anyone say
> not to store passwords on a portable drive because I use a different
> one for each account, for security, and I have way too many too
> remember them all.

that's fine, but you might want to encrypt the file (easy if it's a
Word or Excel doc) so that if you do lose the usb flash drive, it
won't be trivial for the finder to open the file.


Reply from: RAK
Date: 26 Mar, 13:27

"Bucky" <uw_badgers@email.com> wrote in message
news:1174891440.524037.320380@d57g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
> On Mar 25, 6:02 pm, BubbaGump <BubbaGump@localhost> wrote:
>> I'm not worried about the metal detector. What I'm wondering is if
>> security will let the item through.
>
> don't worry, I have taken usb flash drives dozens of times, never a
> problem.
>
>> don't anyone say
>> not to store passwords on a portable drive because I use a different
>> one for each account, for security, and I have way too many too
>> remember them all.
>
> that's fine, but you might want to encrypt the file (easy if it's a
> Word or Excel doc) so that if you do lose the usb flash drive, it
> won't be trivial for the finder to open the file.
>
Actually it is almost trivial to open an encrypted Word or Excel file if you
encrypt using the built-in MS system. There are plenty of programs which
will open these files. I once used one to open a file in the office where
someone had forgotten the password, but I forget which one I used.

Examples:
http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=open+encrypted+word+excel+files&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-GB:official&client=firefox-a

I often carry a portable hard disk drive through security (international in
UK, SE Asia, Australia) - never had a problem.



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