Only 1000 miles for LHR-DEL!

I recently travelled ORD-LHR (on AA) and LHR-DEL (on BA). Each sector
is about 4000 miles. While AA deposited 4000 miles in my AA account,
their "partner" BA gave me only about 1000. An unpleasant surprise.

Newbie wrote:
> I recently travelled ORD-LHR (on AA) and LHR-DEL (on BA). Each sector
> is about 4000 miles. While AA deposited 4000 miles in my AA account,
> their "partner" BA gave me only about 1000. An unpleasant surprise.

Well, if you read the FF info, it actually tells you this.
FWIW, this is BA's decision, not AA's.

If you go here:

https://www.aa.com/apps/AAdvantage/ViewMileageProgramsDetail.jhtml?anchorEvent=false&partnerType=Air

And select "British Airways", you will go to:

https://www.aa.com/apps/AAdvantage/ViewMileageProgramsPartnerDetail.jhtml?fileName=britishAirways.xml&repositoryName=AAdvantagePartnersContentRepository&repositoryId=16019194&itemDescriptor=AAdvantagePartnersContent

You will see a chart with this info:

Discount Economy Class K, L, M, N, O, R 25% 1.00
Discount Economy Class E†, G, Q, S, V 25% .50

I assume you booked in one of these classes and that is why you got 25
percent

It's not rocket science.
In fact, if you were using BA's program/programme, you would not even be
able to join their frequent flyer program if your ticket was in a
discount economy class. If you were used their program, you still
wouldn't get 100 percent for discount economy.

On 30 Mar, 16:43, Newbie <new...@no.spam> wrote:
> I recently travelled ORD-LHR (on AA) and LHR-DEL (on BA). Each sector
> is about 4000 miles. While AA deposited 4000 miles in my AA account,
> their "partner" BA gave me only about 1000. An unpleasant surprise.

"miles" was always a misnomer. Essentially, it is 'points' correlated
to how much you pay over
the odds and which operating carrier (whether primary, fully
integrated partner or other..).

whitely525@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
> On 30 Mar, 16:43, Newbie <new...@no.spam> wrote:
>
>>I recently travelled ORD-LHR (on AA) and LHR-DEL (on BA). Each sector
>>is about 4000 miles. While AA deposited 4000 miles in my AA account,
>>their "partner" BA gave me only about 1000. An unpleasant surprise.
>
>
> "miles" was always a misnomer. Essentially, it is 'points' correlated
> to how much you pay over
> the odds and which operating carrier (whether primary, fully
> integrated partner or other..).
>

Perhaps, but AAdvantage has Elite Qualifying Points, so calling miles
"points" would only make the issue more confusing. The issue also is
NOT becasue they chose a partner, as some partners give full credit.
BA isn't as giving with miles for discounted economy even in its own
plan. That said, I don't see the reason for much surprise, since the
information is very available by looking at the partner info at aa.com.
There even some AA fares that don't earn any miles and there are some
fares that give higher payment rates. Upgrade awards mileage
requirements also depends on fare class. You can spend less miles to
upgradde if you are not upgrading from discounted economy. I recommend
reading the documentation on the website if you want to maximize miles.

On 31 Mar, 06:37, Mike Hunt <postmaster@localhost> wrote:
> whitely...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
> > On 30 Mar, 16:43, Newbie <new...@no.spam> wrote:
>
> >>I recently travelled ORD-LHR (on AA) and LHR-DEL (on BA). Each sector
> >>is about 4000 miles. While AA deposited 4000 miles in my AA account,
> >>their "partner" BA gave me only about 1000. An unpleasant surprise.
>
> > "miles" was always a misnomer. Essentially, it is 'points' correlated
> > to how much you pay over
> > the odds and which operating carrier (whether primary, fully
> > integrated partner or other..).
>
> Perhaps, but AAdvantage has Elite Qualifying Points, so calling miles
> "points" would only make the issue more confusing.

All programs I suspect have two types of 'miles': one for status and
one
for awards (in Lufthansa terminology). In KLM it is 'level miles' and
something
else. So I think it is already confusing enough...! It is basically
the more you spend, the more you earn. Which is fare enough, but
miles
is a misnomer.

>The issue also is
> NOT becasue they chose a partner, as some partners give full credit.
> BA isn't as giving with miles for discounted economy even in its own
> plan. That said, I don't see the reason for much surprise, since the
> information is very available by looking at the partner info at aa.com.

Not so for BA, last time I checked. They appear to keep this type of
information a closely guarded secret.

> There even some AA fares that don't earn any miles and there are some
> fares that give higher payment rates. Upgrade awards mileage
> requirements also depends on fare class. You can spend less miles to
> upgradde if you are not upgrading from discounted economy. I recommend
> reading the documentation on the website if you want to maximize miles.

No chance of that with BA. AFAIK the BA 'excutive' scheme is more
focussed
on premium fare paying customers.

whitely525@yahoo.co.uk wrote:

> On 31 Mar, 06:37, Mike Hunt <postmaster@localhost> wrote:
>
>>whitely...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
>>
>>>On 30 Mar, 16:43, Newbie <new...@no.spam> wrote:
>>
>>>>I recently travelled ORD-LHR (on AA) and LHR-DEL (on BA). Each sector
>>>>is about 4000 miles. While AA deposited 4000 miles in my AA account,
>>>>their "partner" BA gave me only about 1000. An unpleasant surprise.
>>
>>>"miles" was always a misnomer. Essentially, it is 'points' correlated
>>>to how much you pay over
>>>the odds and which operating carrier (whether primary, fully
>>>integrated partner or other..).
>>
>>Perhaps, but AAdvantage has Elite Qualifying Points, so calling miles
>>"points" would only make the issue more confusing.
>
>
> All programs I suspect have two types of 'miles': one for status and
> one
> for awards (in Lufthansa terminology). In KLM it is 'level miles' and
> something
> else. So I think it is already confusing enough...! It is basically
> the more you spend, the more you earn. Which is fare enough, but
> miles
> is a misnomer.

AA has two types of miles (Elite qualifying or not), but they also have
Elite Qualifying Points. Elite Qualifying Miles on AA flights are equal
to the miles you fly on AA (500 minimum), but there are different rates
for partners. Elite Qualifying Points are also given and on AA, they are
base on fare class. So, to make Platinum on AA requires one of the
following:

50000 Elite Qualifying Points
50000 Elite Qualifying Miles
60 Elite qualifying segments (Not as clearly defined as EQP or EQM, but
an EQS is one segment on a flight that you earn EQMs/EQPs on)


>
>>The issue also is
>>NOT becasue they chose a partner, as some partners give full credit.
>>BA isn't as giving with miles for discounted economy even in its own
>>plan. That said, I don't see the reason for much surprise, since the
>>information is very available by looking at the partner info at aa.com.
>
>
> Not so for BA, last time I checked. They appear to keep this type of
> information a closely guarded secret.

I suspect that this passenger flew BA and was talking about the 25
percent of AA miles he got. So, he was talking about the AA miles, and
AA website clearly tells you what you get for flying BA.
Additionally, for the BA program, the BA website also tells you how many
BA miles you earn. Here is the link to the calcular from the US site, I
would bet there is one from the UK site:
http://www.britishairways.com/travel/calculatemilesandpoints/public/en_us

It also gives a rate of 25 percent for Discount economy from ORD-LHR
(988 BA Executive Plan miles)

In article <460f2291$0$28167$4c368faf@roadrunner.com>,
DangerWillRobinson <lost@inspace.doctor.smith> wrote:

: I suspect that this passenger flew BA and was talking about the 25
: percent of AA miles he got. So, he was talking about the AA miles, and
: AA website clearly tells you what you get for flying BA.

This is absolutely correct. I wasn't aware of the explanation on AA
cite, naively thinking that "mile is mile". Thanks to all for
explaining.