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Add Visa pages to US passport

Reply from: James Robinson
Date: 03 Apr 2007, 15:54
Re: Add Visa pages to US passport

Rick Blaine <dont@bother . com > wrote:

> "Tchiowa" <tchiowa2@hotmail . com > wrote:
>
>> The planning lapse occurred inside the bureaucracy that infests
>> Washington regardless of who is in charge. It's why people who stop
>> to think about it don't want the Federal government running things
>> like TSA and *really* want to keep them out of the health care
>> business.
>
> Isn't that the truth!

Yet government agencies seem to manage the health care systems in other
countries just fine. Is there something about the US government that
prevents it happening here?

Reply from: Tchiowa
Date: 04 Apr 2007, 04:15
Re: Add Visa pages to US passport

On Apr 3, 8:54 pm, James Robinson <wasc...@212 . com > wrote:
> Rick Blaine <d...@bother . com > wrote:
> > "Tchiowa" <tchio...@hotmail . com > wrote:
>
> >> The planning lapse occurred inside the bureaucracy that infests
> >> Washington regardless of who is in charge. It's why people who stop
> >> to think about it don't want the Federal government running things
> >> like TSA and *really* want to keep them out of the health care
> >> business.
>
> > Isn't that the truth!
>
> Yet government agencies seem to manage the health care systems in other
> countries just fine.

When did that start happening? The UK health care system is falling
apart. Recent articles in the Herald Tribune talked about issues such
as: Severe shortage of dentists (not that many Brits would
care :-) ), court orders that the government must pay for people to
go abroad for health care because the service is too slow, average
wait for a bypass was up to 14 months (it's 10 days in the US), etc.
The Swedish system was on the verge of bankruptcy. The Canadian system
has a problem getting doctors to work on weekends because they are all
in the US moonlighting to supplement the meager income the government
pays them, etc.

All of the government run health care successes are now clearly shown
to be "short term". They are coming apart at the seams, as predicted
years ago when they started up.


Reply from: Binyamin Dissen
Date: 13 Mar 2007, 18:43
Re: Add Visa pages to US passport

On 13 Mar 2007 07:48:37 -0700 "yaofeng" <yaofengchen@gmail . com > wrote:

:>After getting successive complaints from the Aruba and the Lativia
:>customs official on my passport running out of space for Visa stamps,
:>I finally sent it to the State Department at the beginning of the
:>month to get more blank pages added. The Aruba customs official only
:>complained somewhat jokingly. But the Lativia customs official was
:>very unfriendly during my last trip. I can't afford to have my
:>passport in the State Department for 6 weeks so I sent along $60 for
:>expedited service. The processing time for expedited service is two
:>weeks.

:>The SD received my application on March 5. I tracked it with the USPS
:>certified mail. As my next travel date of March 22 is approaching, I
:>am getting jittery. I called the SD inquiry line. The automated
:>phone answering system didn't get me anywhere. You just can not get a
:>human to answer the phone. My email to the SD asking for status of my
:>application went unanswered too. So much for our tax dollars. I
:>guess it all goes to paying for the war no one is working in the SD
:>anymore.

Too late now, but it looks like it would have been worth it to get a new
password. You get to keep the old one until you pick up the new one.

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Reply from: yaofeng
Date: 13 Mar 2007, 19:58
Re: Add Visa pages to US passport

On Mar 13, 1:43 pm, Binyamin Dissen <postin...@dissensoftware . com >
wrote:
> On 13 Mar 2007 07:48:37 -0700 "yaofeng" <yaofengc...@gmail . com > wrote:
>
> :>After getting successive complaints from the Aruba and the Lativia
> :>customs official on my passport running out of space for Visa stamps,
> :>I finally sent it to the State Department at the beginning of the
> :>month to get more blank pages added. The Aruba customs official only
> :>complained somewhat jokingly. But the Lativia customs official was
> :>very unfriendly during my last trip. I can't afford to have my
> :>passport in the State Department for 6 weeks so I sent along $60 for
> :>expedited service. The processing time for expedited service is two
> :>weeks.
>
> :>The SD received my application on March 5. I tracked it with the USPS
> :>certified mail. As my next travel date of March 22 is approaching, I
> :>am getting jittery. I called the SD inquiry line. The automated
> :>phone answering system didn't get me anywhere. You just can not get a
> :>human to answer the phone. My email to the SD asking for status of my
> :>application went unanswered too. So much for our tax dollars. I
> :>guess it all goes to paying for the war no one is working in the SD
> :>anymore.
>
> Too late now, but it looks like it would have been worth it to get a new
> password. You get to keep the old one until you pick up the new one.
>
> --
Finally got email reply from the State Department. But it was the
typical run around saying how they are overloaded and did not have
time to enter the info online. The whole thing is irrelevant because
there is no mechanism to check the status online for my case. You are
simply at the SD's disposal if you want blank Visa pages added. You
can check the status online only if you are applying for or renewing
the passport, not when you are adding blank pages. I tried calling
them as late as 10 PM and not got anywhere. I'll try calling the SD
by 11 PM or close to 12 AM tonight.

But I need to consider applying for a new passport just in case. What
is the absolute last minute I can get a passport if I have a travel
date of March 22?



Reply from: Andrew J. Perrin
Date: 13 Mar 2007, 20:39
Re: Add Visa pages to US passport

"yaofeng" <yaofengchen@gmail . com > writes:

> On Mar 13, 1:43 pm, Binyamin Dissen <postin...@dissensoftware . com >
> wrote:
>> On 13 Mar 2007 07:48:37 -0700 "yaofeng" <yaofengc...@gmail . com > wrote:
>>
>> :>After getting successive complaints from the Aruba and the Lativia
>> :>customs official on my passport running out of space for Visa stamps,
>> :>I finally sent it to the State Department at the beginning of the
>> :>month to get more blank pages added. The Aruba customs official only
>> :>complained somewhat jokingly. But the Lativia customs official was
>> :>very unfriendly during my last trip. I can't afford to have my
>> :>passport in the State Department for 6 weeks so I sent along $60 for
>> :>expedited service. The processing time for expedited service is two
>> :>weeks.
>>
>> :>The SD received my application on March 5. I tracked it with the USPS
>> :>certified mail. As my next travel date of March 22 is approaching, I
>> :>am getting jittery. I called the SD inquiry line. The automated
>> :>phone answering system didn't get me anywhere. You just can not get a
>> :>human to answer the phone. My email to the SD asking for status of my
>> :>application went unanswered too. So much for our tax dollars. I
>> :>guess it all goes to paying for the war no one is working in the SD
>> :>anymore.
>>
>> Too late now, but it looks like it would have been worth it to get a new
>> password. You get to keep the old one until you pick up the new one.
>>
>> --
> Finally got email reply from the State Department. But it was the
> typical run around saying how they are overloaded and did not have
> time to enter the info online. The whole thing is irrelevant because
> there is no mechanism to check the status online for my case. You are
> simply at the SD's disposal if you want blank Visa pages added. You
> can check the status online only if you are applying for or renewing
> the passport, not when you are adding blank pages. I tried calling
> them as late as 10 PM and not got anywhere. I'll try calling the SD
> by 11 PM or close to 12 AM tonight.
>
> But I need to consider applying for a new passport just in case. What
> is the absolute last minute I can get a passport if I have a travel
> date of March 22?
>
>

You can get a passport on-the-spot if you have a pressing travel need,
but you must be in a city with a passport office:
* travel.state.gov/passport/about/npic/npic_898.html

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Reply from: Rick Blaine
Date: 14 Mar 2007, 00:56
Re: Add Visa pages to US passport

clists@perrin.socsci.unc.edu (Andrew J. Perrin) wrote:

>You can get a passport on-the-spot if you have a pressing travel need,
>but you must be in a city with a passport office:
> * travel.state.gov/passport/about/npic/npic_898.html

And reservations up to 2 weeks in advance are now mandatory. The days of showing
up in line in the morning and picking up a passport after lunch are long gone...

Reply from: ant
Date: 14 Mar 2007, 02:03
Re: Add Visa pages to US passport

yaofeng wrote:
> After getting successive complaints from the Aruba and the Lativia
> customs official on my passport running out of space for Visa stamps,
> I finally sent it to the State Department at the beginning of the
> month to get more blank pages added. The Aruba customs official only
> complained somewhat jokingly. But the Lativia customs official was
> very unfriendly during my last trip. I can't afford to have my
> passport in the State Department for 6 weeks so I sent along $60 for
> expedited service. The processing time for expedited service is two
> weeks.
>
> The SD received my application on March 5. I tracked it with the USPS
> certified mail. As my next travel date of March 22 is approaching, I
> am getting jittery. I called the SD inquiry line. The automated
> phone answering system didn't get me anywhere. You just can not get a
> human to answer the phone. My email to the SD asking for status of my
> application went unanswered too. So much for our tax dollars. I
> guess it all goes to paying for the war no one is working in the SD
> anymore.
>
> What to do?

Welcome to the bullshit non-americans get to enjoy when dealing with any of
the US gov't entitites we deal with to enter the US. They're totally
un-accountable, they are inefficient, capricious, not to mention
bureaucratic and expensive! And often they are, er, not incredibly bright
either.

--
ant
Don't try to email me;
I'm borrowing the spammer du jour's addy



Reply from: yaofeng
Date: 14 Mar 2007, 03:48
Re: Add Visa pages to US passport

On Mar 13, 9:03 pm, "ant" <britishtobaccoverificatio...@yahoo.co.uk>
wrote:
> yaofeng wrote:
> > After getting successive complaints from the Aruba and the Lativia
> > customs official on my passport running out of space for Visa stamps,
> > I finally sent it to the State Department at the beginning of the
> > month to get more blank pages added. The Aruba customs official only
> > complained somewhat jokingly. But the Lativia customs official was
> > very unfriendly during my last trip. I can't afford to have my
> > passport in the State Department for 6 weeks so I sent along $60 for
> > expedited service. The processing time for expedited service is two
> > weeks.
>
> > The SD received my application on March 5. I tracked it with the USPS
> > certified mail. As my next travel date of March 22 is approaching, I
> > am getting jittery. I called the SD inquiry line. The automated
> > phone answering system didn't get me anywhere. You just can not get a
> > human to answer the phone. My email to the SD asking for status of my
> > application went unanswered too. So much for our tax dollars. I
> > guess it all goes to paying for the war no one is working in the SD
> > anymore.
>
> > What to do?
>
> Welcome to the bullshit non-americans get to enjoy when dealing with any of
> the US gov't entitites we deal with to enter the US. They're totally
> un-accountable, they are inefficient, capricious, not to mention
> bureaucratic and expensive! And often they are, er, not incredibly bright
> either.
>
> --
> ant
> Don't try to email me;
> I'm borrowing the spammer du jour's addy- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

They may not be accountable to you. They are to us. As Shawn
suggested, we have representation because we pay taxes.


Reply from: DevilsPGD
Date: 14 Mar 2007, 04:56
Re: Add Visa pages to US passport

In message <1173840485.299726.248250@d57g2000hsg.googlegroups . com >
"yaofeng" <yaofengchen@gmail . com > wrote:

>They may not be accountable to you. They are to us. As Shawn
>suggested, we have representation because we pay taxes.

So then why are you posting here? Go take advantage of your
representation and fix it.
--
Insert something clever here.

Reply from: yaofeng
Date: 14 Mar 2007, 12:43
Re: Add Visa pages to US passport

On Mar 13, 11:56 pm, DevilsPGD <spam narf s...@crazyhat . net > wrote:
> In message <1173840485.299726.248...@d57g2000hsg.googlegroups . com >
>
> "yaofeng" <yaofengc...@gmail . com > wrote:
> >They may not be accountable to you. They are to us. As Shawn
> >suggested, we have representation because we pay taxes.
>
> So then why are you posting here? Go take advantage of your
> representation and fix it.
> --
> Insert something clever here.

I was going to call Rush Holt's office this morning. But it isn't
necessary anymore. Last night I called the passport processing
inquiry line at 11:28 PM. Punched a series of keys I cannot even
remember the sequence anymore. The automated answering system no
longer said goodbye to me. I was placed on hold for more than 40
minutes before an agent answered the phone. By then it was already
past midnight.

Anyway after verifying my name, address and social security number,
the agent looked online and told me my passport has already been
processed and the additional pages added. It will be in the mail
going out of the Charleston, SC office by 3 PM today. Why is it I
sent to the Philadelphia passport office and get it back from
Charleston, SC I don't know. Nor do I care at that point. I'll get
my passport by Friday the latest.

I may not like the speed with which the system works but it does
work. When we landed at Newark airport this past January after coming
back from vacation in Spain and Morocco, seeing the rows of INS
officers lining up at the booth ready to process our return, my son
commented the difference between our guys and the counterparts in
Morocco saying how much more efficient the INS officers were. I
reminded him we also pay much more taxes. Yes, It comes with a price.


Reply from: Bogart
Date: 14 Mar 2007, 14:19
Re: Add Visa pages to US passport

On 14 Mar 2007 04:43:23 -0700, "yaofeng" <yaofengchen@gmail . com >
wrote:

>On Mar 13, 11:56 pm, DevilsPGD <spam_narf_s...@crazyhat . net > wrote:
>> In message <1173840485.299726.248...@d57g2000hsg.googlegroups . com >
>>
>> "yaofeng" <yaofengc...@gmail . com > wrote:
>> >They may not be accountable to you. They are to us. As Shawn
>> >suggested, we have representation because we pay taxes.
>>
>> So then why are you posting here? Go take advantage of your
>> representation and fix it.
>> --
>> Insert something clever here.
>
>I was going to call Rush Holt's office this morning. But it isn't
>necessary anymore. Last night I called the passport processing
>inquiry line at 11:28 PM. Punched a series of keys I cannot even
>remember the sequence anymore. The automated answering system no
>longer said goodbye to me. I was placed on hold for more than 40
>minutes before an agent answered the phone. By then it was already
>past midnight.
>
>Anyway after verifying my name, address and social security number,
>the agent looked online and told me my passport has already been
>processed and the additional pages added. It will be in the mail
>going out of the Charleston, SC office by 3 PM today. Why is it I
>sent to the Philadelphia passport office and get it back from
>Charleston, SC I don't know. Nor do I care at that point. I'll get
>my passport by Friday the latest.
>
>I may not like the speed with which the system works but it does
>work. When we landed at Newark airport this past January after coming
>back from vacation in Spain and Morocco, seeing the rows of INS
>officers lining up at the booth ready to process our return, my son
>commented the difference between our guys and the counterparts in
>Morocco saying how much more efficient the INS officers were. I
>reminded him we also pay much more taxes. Yes, It comes with a price.

Morocco would be about the only country on the planet that has more
inefficient INS officers than the US then. Even the 16 year old girls
that they employ to process people at Heathrow (spit) do a better job
than the Americans can manage.

Reply from: yaofeng
Date: 14 Mar 2007, 14:24
Re: Add Visa pages to US passport

On Mar 14, 9:19 am, Bogart <reclaim...@name.not> wrote:
> On 14 Mar 2007 04:43:23 -0700, "yaofeng" <yaofengc...@gmail . com >
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> >On Mar 13, 11:56 pm, DevilsPGD <spam narf s...@crazyhat . net > wrote:
> >> In message <1173840485.299726.248...@d57g2000hsg.googlegroups . com >
>
> >> "yaofeng" <yaofengc...@gmail . com > wrote:
> >> >They may not be accountable to you. They are to us. As Shawn
> >> >suggested, we have representation because we pay taxes.
>
> >> So then why are you posting here? Go take advantage of your
> >> representation and fix it.
> >> --
> >> Insert something clever here.
>
> >I was going to call Rush Holt's office this morning. But it isn't
> >necessary anymore. Last night I called the passport processing
> >inquiry line at 11:28 PM. Punched a series of keys I cannot even
> >remember the sequence anymore. The automated answering system no
> >longer said goodbye to me. I was placed on hold for more than 40
> >minutes before an agent answered the phone. By then it was already
> >past midnight.
>
> >Anyway after verifying my name, address and social security number,
> >the agent looked online and told me my passport has already been
> >processed and the additional pages added. It will be in the mail
> >going out of the Charleston, SC office by 3 PM today. Why is it I
> >sent to the Philadelphia passport office and get it back from
> >Charleston, SC I don't know. Nor do I care at that point. I'll get
> >my passport by Friday the latest.
>
> >I may not like the speed with which the system works but it does
> >work. When we landed at Newark airport this past January after coming
> >back from vacation in Spain and Morocco, seeing the rows of INS
> >officers lining up at the booth ready to process our return, my son
> >commented the difference between our guys and the counterparts in
> >Morocco saying how much more efficient the INS officers were. I
> >reminded him we also pay much more taxes. Yes, It comes with a price.
>
> Morocco would be about the only country on the planet that has more
> inefficient INS officers than the US then. Even the 16 year old girls
> that they employ to process people at Heathrow (spit) do a better job
> than the Americans can manage.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Ha ha! I can't comment on how INS process foreigners. Maybe after
9/11 they were ordered to give them a hard time. But I never have any
problem with any of them.


Reply from: Bogart
Date: 15 Mar 2007, 07:30
Re: Add Visa pages to US passport

On 14 Mar 2007 06:24:58 -0700, "yaofeng" <yaofengchen@gmail . com >
wrote:

>On Mar 14, 9:19 am, Bogart <reclaim...@name.not> wrote:
>> On 14 Mar 2007 04:43:23 -0700, "yaofeng" <yaofengc...@gmail . com >
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> >On Mar 13, 11:56 pm, DevilsPGD <spam_narf_s...@crazyhat . net > wrote:
>> >> In message <1173840485.299726.248...@d57g2000hsg.googlegroups . com >
>>
>> >> "yaofeng" <yaofengc...@gmail . com > wrote:
>> >> >They may not be accountable to you. They are to us. As Shawn
>> >> >suggested, we have representation because we pay taxes.
>>
>> >> So then why are you posting here? Go take advantage of your
>> >> representation and fix it.
>> >> --
>> >> Insert something clever here.
>>
>> >I was going to call Rush Holt's office this morning. But it isn't
>> >necessary anymore. Last night I called the passport processing
>> >inquiry line at 11:28 PM. Punched a series of keys I cannot even
>> >remember the sequence anymore. The automated answering system no
>> >longer said goodbye to me. I was placed on hold for more than 40
>> >minutes before an agent answered the phone. By then it was already
>> >past midnight.
>>
>> >Anyway after verifying my name, address and social security number,
>> >the agent looked online and told me my passport has already been
>> >processed and the additional pages added. It will be in the mail
>> >going out of the Charleston, SC office by 3 PM today. Why is it I
>> >sent to the Philadelphia passport office and get it back from
>> >Charleston, SC I don't know. Nor do I care at that point. I'll get
>> >my passport by Friday the latest.
>>
>> >I may not like the speed with which the system works but it does
>> >work. When we landed at Newark airport this past January after coming
>> >back from vacation in Spain and Morocco, seeing the rows of INS
>> >officers lining up at the booth ready to process our return, my son
>> >commented the difference between our guys and the counterparts in
>> >Morocco saying how much more efficient the INS officers were. I
>> >reminded him we also pay much more taxes. Yes, It comes with a price.
>>
>> Morocco would be about the only country on the planet that has more
>> inefficient INS officers than the US then. Even the 16 year old girls
>> that they employ to process people at Heathrow (spit) do a better job
>> than the Americans can manage.- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
>Ha ha! I can't comment on how INS process foreigners. Maybe after
>9/11 they were ordered to give them a hard time. But I never have any
>problem with any of them.

Reminds me of the foreign woman in my own immigration line on return
home once. The stupid cow headed for the shortest line, when she
reached the front and was politely redirected to the longer line for
foreigners she started shrieking "I am NOT a foreigner, I am a citizen
of the United States." She stood her ground for ten minutes to the
delight and amusement of the assembled crowd, until she finally gave
in and skulked to the back of the foreigners' line. It was a classic
example of why some americans just shouldn't leave home.
I've never had so much pleasure out of my own tax dollars at work.

Reply from: DaveM
Date: 18 Mar 2007, 01:26
Re: Add Visa pages to US passport

On 14 Mar 2007 06:24:58 -0700, "yaofeng" <yaofengchen@gmail . com > wrote:

>On Mar 14, 9:19 am, Bogart <reclaim...@name.not> wrote:
>> On 14 Mar 2007 04:43:23 -0700, "yaofeng" <yaofengc...@gmail . com >
>> wrote:

>Ha ha! I can't comment on how INS process foreigners. Maybe after
>9/11 they were ordered to give them a hard time. But I never have any
>problem with any of them.

I make an annual trip to LV - normally directly. I haven't had problems at
either LV or Chicago even post 911. Having said that, LAS-MAN on bmi is a
good flight to be a US citizen on, no matter which direction you travel. The
queues for US citizens are minimal/non-existent in the US, as are the non-EU
queues in the UK.

DaveM

Reply from: Mike Hunt
Date: 14 Mar 2007, 05:11
Re: Add Visa pages to US passport

yaofeng wrote:
>
> They may not be accountable to you. They are to us. As Shawn
> suggested, we have representation because we pay taxes.
>

Wouldn't it have been easier to get the pages in Aruba or Latvia?
Consular people abroad seem to be able to do things faster for USCs than
the State Dept in the US.


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