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Re: Add Visa pages to US passport
hago@dcs.qmul.ac.uk wrote:
> It is true however, that obtaining a green card ("permanent"
> residency), means that the IRS would consider one a resident also.
>
It is possible to have a green card and be a non-resident for tax
purposes. Of course, it is important to note that citizens and green
card holders that live outside of the US, might be subject to US income
tax on their foreign earnings.
hago@dcs.qmul.ac.uk wrote:
> It is true however, that obtaining a green card ("permanent"
> residency), means that the IRS would consider one a resident also.
>
It is possible to have a green card and be a non-resident for tax
purposes. Of course, it is important to note that citizens and green
card holders that live outside of the US, might be subject to US income
tax on their foreign earnings.
Re: Add Visa pages to US passport
On Mar 16, 5:50 am, Mike Hunt <postmaster@localhost> wrote:
> h...@dcs.qmul.ac.uk wrote:
> > It is true however, that obtaining a green card ("permanent"
> > residency), means that the IRS would consider one a resident also.
>
> It is possible to have a green card and be a non-resident for tax
> purposes.
While living in the US? I did not know that - but then I didn't have a
green card, so I never looked into that. It was always enough for me
try to keep all the tax stuff that actually applied to me straight in
my head :-)
Something I don't miss.
Hanne
On Mar 16, 5:50 am, Mike Hunt <postmaster@localhost> wrote:
> h...@dcs.qmul.ac.uk wrote:
> > It is true however, that obtaining a green card ("permanent"
> > residency), means that the IRS would consider one a resident also.
>
> It is possible to have a green card and be a non-resident for tax
> purposes.
While living in the US? I did not know that - but then I didn't have a
green card, so I never looked into that. It was always enough for me
try to keep all the tax stuff that actually applied to me straight in
my head :-)
Something I don't miss.
Hanne
Re: Add Visa pages to US passport
hago@dcs.qmul.ac.uk wrote:
> On Mar 16, 5:50 am, Mike Hunt <postmaster@localhost> wrote:
>
>>h...@dcs.qmul.ac.uk wrote:
>>
>>>It is true however, that obtaining a green card ("permanent"
>>>residency), means that the IRS would consider one a resident also.
>>
>>It is possible to have a green card and be a non-resident for tax
>>purposes.
>
>
> While living in the US? I did not know that
Who said "while living in the US?". I only commented that you could be
both.
hago@dcs.qmul.ac.uk wrote:
> On Mar 16, 5:50 am, Mike Hunt <postmaster@localhost> wrote:
>
>>h...@dcs.qmul.ac.uk wrote:
>>
>>>It is true however, that obtaining a green card ("permanent"
>>>residency), means that the IRS would consider one a resident also.
>>
>>It is possible to have a green card and be a non-resident for tax
>>purposes.
>
>
> While living in the US? I did not know that
Who said "while living in the US?". I only commented that you could be
both.
Re: Add Visa pages to US passport
yaofeng wrote:
> You are right it applies to non-resident aliens. But it is both IRS
> term and INS term. You can get you money back.
>
ICE and IRS do not have the same definition of resident alien.
You can be in the US illegally and still file a resident alien tax return.
yaofeng wrote:
> You are right it applies to non-resident aliens. But it is both IRS
> term and INS term. You can get you money back.
>
ICE and IRS do not have the same definition of resident alien.
You can be in the US illegally and still file a resident alien tax return.
Re: Add Visa pages to US passport
James Robinson wrote:
> "yaofeng" <yaofengchen@gmail . com > wrote:
> >
> > Mike Hunt <postmaster@localhost> wrote:
> > >
> > > yaofeng wrote:
> > > >
> > > > If you are not a citizen you do not have to pay either social
> > > > security or medicare. Most foreigners working in the US don't
> > > > know this. Get it rectified. But taxes you have to pay.
> > > > Can't have the cake and eat it too.
> > >
> > > Please cite a source for this misinformation.
> > > Many non-citizens pay and many non-citizens benefit from SS and
> > > Medicare
> >
> > Look at 13.5 in the link below
> >
> > * w w w .irs.gov/faqs/faq-kw177.html
>
> That only applies to non-residents.
>
> As soon as a non-citizen is considered a permanent resident, they are
> subject to paying the taxes.
What about visiting workers?
--
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James Robinson wrote:
> "yaofeng" <yaofengchen@gmail . com > wrote:
> >
> > Mike Hunt <postmaster@localhost> wrote:
> > >
> > > yaofeng wrote:
> > > >
> > > > If you are not a citizen you do not have to pay either social
> > > > security or medicare. Most foreigners working in the US don't
> > > > know this. Get it rectified. But taxes you have to pay.
> > > > Can't have the cake and eat it too.
> > >
> > > Please cite a source for this misinformation.
> > > Many non-citizens pay and many non-citizens benefit from SS and
> > > Medicare
> >
> > Look at 13.5 in the link below
> >
> > * w w w .irs.gov/faqs/faq-kw177.html
>
> That only applies to non-residents.
>
> As soon as a non-citizen is considered a permanent resident, they are
> subject to paying the taxes.
What about visiting workers?
--
ant
Don't try to email me;
I'm borrowing the spammer du jour's addy
Re: Add Visa pages to US passport
ant wrote:
> James Robinson wrote:
>
>>"yaofeng" <yaofengchen@gmail . com > wrote:
>>
>>>Mike Hunt <postmaster@localhost> wrote:
>>>
>>>>yaofeng wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>If you are not a citizen you do not have to pay either social
>>>>>security or medicare. Most foreigners working in the US don't
>>>>>know this. Get it rectified. But taxes you have to pay.
>>>>>Can't have the cake and eat it too.
>>>>
>>>>Please cite a source for this misinformation.
>>>>Many non-citizens pay and many non-citizens benefit from SS and
>>>>Medicare
>>>
>>>Look at 13.5 in the link below
>>>
>>> * w w w .irs.gov/faqs/faq-kw177.html
>>
>>That only applies to non-residents.
>>
>>As soon as a non-citizen is considered a permanent resident, they are
>>subject to paying the taxes.
>
>
> What about visiting workers?
>
That also brings up another something else that yaofeng probably doesn't
know about, equalization agreements.
* w w w .ssa.gov/international/agreements_overview.html
ant wrote:
> James Robinson wrote:
>
>>"yaofeng" <yaofengchen@gmail . com > wrote:
>>
>>>Mike Hunt <postmaster@localhost> wrote:
>>>
>>>>yaofeng wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>If you are not a citizen you do not have to pay either social
>>>>>security or medicare. Most foreigners working in the US don't
>>>>>know this. Get it rectified. But taxes you have to pay.
>>>>>Can't have the cake and eat it too.
>>>>
>>>>Please cite a source for this misinformation.
>>>>Many non-citizens pay and many non-citizens benefit from SS and
>>>>Medicare
>>>
>>>Look at 13.5 in the link below
>>>
>>> * w w w .irs.gov/faqs/faq-kw177.html
>>
>>That only applies to non-residents.
>>
>>As soon as a non-citizen is considered a permanent resident, they are
>>subject to paying the taxes.
>
>
> What about visiting workers?
>
That also brings up another something else that yaofeng probably doesn't
know about, equalization agreements.
* w w w .ssa.gov/international/agreements_overview.html
Re: Add Visa pages to US passport
Mike Hunt wrote:
> ant wrote:
>
>> James Robinson wrote:
>>
>>> "yaofeng" <yaofengchen@gmail . com > wrote:
>>>
>>>> Mike Hunt <postmaster@localhost> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> yaofeng wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> If you are not a citizen you do not have to pay either social
>>>>>> security or medicare. Most foreigners working in the US don't
>>>>>> know this. Get it rectified. But taxes you have to pay.
>>>>>> Can't have the cake and eat it too.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Please cite a source for this misinformation.
>>>>> Many non-citizens pay and many non-citizens benefit from SS and
>>>>> Medicare
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Look at 13.5 in the link below
>>>>
>>>> * w w w .irs.gov/faqs/faq-kw177.html
>>>
>>>
>>> That only applies to non-residents.
>>>
>>> As soon as a non-citizen is considered a permanent resident, they are
>>> subject to paying the taxes.
>>
>>
>>
>> What about visiting workers?
>>
>
> That also brings up another something else that yaofeng probably doesn't
> know about, equalization agreements.
> * w w w .ssa.gov/international/agreements_overview.html
Actually referred to as "totalization agreements". Bad memory..
Mike Hunt wrote:
> ant wrote:
>
>> James Robinson wrote:
>>
>>> "yaofeng" <yaofengchen@gmail . com > wrote:
>>>
>>>> Mike Hunt <postmaster@localhost> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> yaofeng wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> If you are not a citizen you do not have to pay either social
>>>>>> security or medicare. Most foreigners working in the US don't
>>>>>> know this. Get it rectified. But taxes you have to pay.
>>>>>> Can't have the cake and eat it too.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Please cite a source for this misinformation.
>>>>> Many non-citizens pay and many non-citizens benefit from SS and
>>>>> Medicare
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Look at 13.5 in the link below
>>>>
>>>> * w w w .irs.gov/faqs/faq-kw177.html
>>>
>>>
>>> That only applies to non-residents.
>>>
>>> As soon as a non-citizen is considered a permanent resident, they are
>>> subject to paying the taxes.
>>
>>
>>
>> What about visiting workers?
>>
>
> That also brings up another something else that yaofeng probably doesn't
> know about, equalization agreements.
> * w w w .ssa.gov/international/agreements_overview.html
Actually referred to as "totalization agreements". Bad memory..
Re: Add Visa pages to US passport
yaofeng wrote:
> On Mar 15, 1:32 am, Mike Hunt <postmaster@localhost> wrote:
>
>>yaofeng wrote:
>>
>>>If you are not a citizen you do not have to pay either social security
>>>or medicare. Most foreigners working in the US don't know this. Get
>>>it rectified. But taxes you have to pay. Can't have the cake and eat
>>>it too.
>>
>>Please cite a source for this misinformation.
>>Many non-citizens pay and many non-citizens benefit from SS and Medicare
>
>
> Look at 13.5 in the link below
>
> * w w w .irs.gov/faqs/faq-kw177.html
>
13.5 talks about living abroad. What about non-citizens that live in the
US? Your statement: "If you are not a citizen you do not have to pay
either social security or medicare", didn't make a distinction.
yaofeng wrote:
> On Mar 15, 1:32 am, Mike Hunt <postmaster@localhost> wrote:
>
>>yaofeng wrote:
>>
>>>If you are not a citizen you do not have to pay either social security
>>>or medicare. Most foreigners working in the US don't know this. Get
>>>it rectified. But taxes you have to pay. Can't have the cake and eat
>>>it too.
>>
>>Please cite a source for this misinformation.
>>Many non-citizens pay and many non-citizens benefit from SS and Medicare
>
>
> Look at 13.5 in the link below
>
> * w w w .irs.gov/faqs/faq-kw177.html
>
13.5 talks about living abroad. What about non-citizens that live in the
US? Your statement: "If you are not a citizen you do not have to pay
either social security or medicare", didn't make a distinction.
Re: Add Visa pages to US passport
On Mar 15, 10:54 am, Mike Hunt <postmaster@localhost> wrote:
> yaofeng wrote:
> > On Mar 15, 1:32 am, Mike Hunt <postmaster@localhost> wrote:
>
> >>yaofeng wrote:
>
> >>>If you are not a citizen you do not have to pay either social security
> >>>or medicare. Most foreigners working in the US don't know this. Get
> >>>it rectified. But taxes you have to pay. Can't have the cake and eat
> >>>it too.
>
> >>Please cite a source for this misinformation.
> >>Many non-citizens pay and many non-citizens benefit from SS and Medicare
>
> > Look at 13.5 in the link below
>
> > * w w w .irs.gov/faqs/faq-kw177.html
>
> 13.5 talks about living abroad. What about non-citizens that live in the
> US? Your statement: "If you are not a citizen you do not have to pay
> either social security or medicare", didn't make a distinction.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
13.5 talks about resident aliens and citizens living abroad. If you
are a foreigner who has no intention of staying in the US to
naturalize or immigrate, you do not have to pay social security or
medicare and it make sense because you do not intend to get the
benefit of it.
On Mar 15, 10:54 am, Mike Hunt <postmaster@localhost> wrote:
> yaofeng wrote:
> > On Mar 15, 1:32 am, Mike Hunt <postmaster@localhost> wrote:
>
> >>yaofeng wrote:
>
> >>>If you are not a citizen you do not have to pay either social security
> >>>or medicare. Most foreigners working in the US don't know this. Get
> >>>it rectified. But taxes you have to pay. Can't have the cake and eat
> >>>it too.
>
> >>Please cite a source for this misinformation.
> >>Many non-citizens pay and many non-citizens benefit from SS and Medicare
>
> > Look at 13.5 in the link below
>
> > * w w w .irs.gov/faqs/faq-kw177.html
>
> 13.5 talks about living abroad. What about non-citizens that live in the
> US? Your statement: "If you are not a citizen you do not have to pay
> either social security or medicare", didn't make a distinction.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
13.5 talks about resident aliens and citizens living abroad. If you
are a foreigner who has no intention of staying in the US to
naturalize or immigrate, you do not have to pay social security or
medicare and it make sense because you do not intend to get the
benefit of it.
Re: Add Visa pages to US passport
"yaofeng" <yaofengchen@gmail . com > wrote:
>
> Mike Hunt <postmaster@localhost> wrote:
>>
>> yaofeng wrote:
>>
>> > Mike Hunt <postmaster@localhost> wrote:
>>
>> >> yaofeng wrote:
>>
>> >>> If you are not a citizen you do not have to pay either social
>> >>> security or medicare. Most foreigners working in the US don't
>> >>> know this. Get it rectified. But taxes you have to pay. Can't
>> >>> have the cake and eat it too.
>>
>> >> Please cite a source for this misinformation.
>> >> Many non-citizens pay and many non-citizens benefit from SS and
>> >> Medicare
>>
>> > Look at 13.5 in the link below
>>
>> > * w w w .irs.gov/faqs/faq-kw177.html
>>
>> 13.5 talks about living abroad. What about non-citizens that live in
>> the US? Your statement: "If you are not a citizen you do not have to
>> pay either social security or medicare", didn't make a distinction.-
>> Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> 13.5 talks about resident aliens and citizens living abroad. If you
> are a foreigner who has no intention of staying in the US to
> naturalize or immigrate, you do not have to pay social security or
> medicare and it make sense because you do not intend to get the
> benefit of it.
That is not correct. There are many people with green cards who don't
intend taking out US citizenship or living in the country permanently.
They are subject to SS and Medicare taxes. The green card simply allows
the holder to live and work in the US, and has nothing to do with
ultimately intending to acquire US citizenship.
Here is a link to a more complete discussion of SS taxes for non-
citizens:
* tinyurl . com /2cl6fx
"yaofeng" <yaofengchen@gmail . com > wrote:
>
> Mike Hunt <postmaster@localhost> wrote:
>>
>> yaofeng wrote:
>>
>> > Mike Hunt <postmaster@localhost> wrote:
>>
>> >> yaofeng wrote:
>>
>> >>> If you are not a citizen you do not have to pay either social
>> >>> security or medicare. Most foreigners working in the US don't
>> >>> know this. Get it rectified. But taxes you have to pay. Can't
>> >>> have the cake and eat it too.
>>
>> >> Please cite a source for this misinformation.
>> >> Many non-citizens pay and many non-citizens benefit from SS and
>> >> Medicare
>>
>> > Look at 13.5 in the link below
>>
>> > * w w w .irs.gov/faqs/faq-kw177.html
>>
>> 13.5 talks about living abroad. What about non-citizens that live in
>> the US? Your statement: "If you are not a citizen you do not have to
>> pay either social security or medicare", didn't make a distinction.-
>> Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> 13.5 talks about resident aliens and citizens living abroad. If you
> are a foreigner who has no intention of staying in the US to
> naturalize or immigrate, you do not have to pay social security or
> medicare and it make sense because you do not intend to get the
> benefit of it.
That is not correct. There are many people with green cards who don't
intend taking out US citizenship or living in the country permanently.
They are subject to SS and Medicare taxes. The green card simply allows
the holder to live and work in the US, and has nothing to do with
ultimately intending to acquire US citizenship.
Here is a link to a more complete discussion of SS taxes for non-
citizens:
* tinyurl . com /2cl6fx
Re: Add Visa pages to US passport
On Mar 15, 12:31 pm, James Robinson <wasc...@212 . com > wrote:
> "yaofeng" <yaofengc...@gmail . com > wrote:
>
> > Mike Hunt <postmaster@localhost> wrote:
>
> >> yaofeng wrote:
>
> >> > Mike Hunt <postmaster@localhost> wrote:
>
> >> >> yaofeng wrote:
>
> >> >>> If you are not a citizen you do not have to pay either social
> >> >>> security or medicare. Most foreigners working in the US don't
> >> >>> know this. Get it rectified. But taxes you have to pay. Can't
> >> >>> have the cake and eat it too.
>
> >> >> Please cite a source for this misinformation.
> >> >> Many non-citizens pay and many non-citizens benefit from SS and
> >> >> Medicare
>
> >> > Look at 13.5 in the link below
>
> >> > * w w w .irs.gov/faqs/faq-kw177.html
>
> >> 13.5 talks about living abroad. What about non-citizens that live in
> >> the US? Your statement: "If you are not a citizen you do not have to
> >> pay either social security or medicare", didn't make a distinction.-
> >> Hide quoted text -
>
> >> - Show quoted text -
>
> > 13.5 talks about resident aliens and citizens living abroad. If you
> > are a foreigner who has no intention of staying in the US to
> > naturalize or immigrate, you do not have to pay social security or
> > medicare and it make sense because you do not intend to get the
> > benefit of it.
>
> That is not correct. There are many people with green cards who don't
> intend taking out US citizenship or living in the country permanently.
> They are subject to SS and Medicare taxes. The green card simply allows
> the holder to live and work in the US, and has nothing to do with
> ultimately intending to acquire US citizenship.
>
> Here is a link to a more complete discussion of SS taxes for non-
> citizens:
>
> * tinyurl . com /2cl6fx- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
I am not a lawyer so I can only describe in general terms. I'd think
a permanemt resident has no recourse to not pay either social security
or medicare. But a non-resident alien, in rare exceptions, do not
have to pay either.
On Mar 15, 12:31 pm, James Robinson <wasc...@212 . com > wrote:
> "yaofeng" <yaofengc...@gmail . com > wrote:
>
> > Mike Hunt <postmaster@localhost> wrote:
>
> >> yaofeng wrote:
>
> >> > Mike Hunt <postmaster@localhost> wrote:
>
> >> >> yaofeng wrote:
>
> >> >>> If you are not a citizen you do not have to pay either social
> >> >>> security or medicare. Most foreigners working in the US don't
> >> >>> know this. Get it rectified. But taxes you have to pay. Can't
> >> >>> have the cake and eat it too.
>
> >> >> Please cite a source for this misinformation.
> >> >> Many non-citizens pay and many non-citizens benefit from SS and
> >> >> Medicare
>
> >> > Look at 13.5 in the link below
>
> >> > * w w w .irs.gov/faqs/faq-kw177.html
>
> >> 13.5 talks about living abroad. What about non-citizens that live in
> >> the US? Your statement: "If you are not a citizen you do not have to
> >> pay either social security or medicare", didn't make a distinction.-
> >> Hide quoted text -
>
> >> - Show quoted text -
>
> > 13.5 talks about resident aliens and citizens living abroad. If you
> > are a foreigner who has no intention of staying in the US to
> > naturalize or immigrate, you do not have to pay social security or
> > medicare and it make sense because you do not intend to get the
> > benefit of it.
>
> That is not correct. There are many people with green cards who don't
> intend taking out US citizenship or living in the country permanently.
> They are subject to SS and Medicare taxes. The green card simply allows
> the holder to live and work in the US, and has nothing to do with
> ultimately intending to acquire US citizenship.
>
> Here is a link to a more complete discussion of SS taxes for non-
> citizens:
>
> * tinyurl . com /2cl6fx- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
I am not a lawyer so I can only describe in general terms. I'd think
a permanemt resident has no recourse to not pay either social security
or medicare. But a non-resident alien, in rare exceptions, do not
have to pay either.
Re: Add Visa pages to US passport
yaofeng wrote
>
> I am not a lawyer
Nor a tax advisor.
so I can only describe in general terms.
And wrong.
I'd think
> a permanemt resident has no recourse to not pay either social security
> or medicare. But a non-resident alien, in rare exceptions, do not
> have to pay either.
>
However you did change your description of this. You first said
non-citizens, not "non-resident aliens", and most non-citizens paying SS
and medicare withholding are resident aliens (for tax purposes).
So, your original statement about non-citizens is not correct for most
non-citizens that pay the tax.
yaofeng wrote
>
> I am not a lawyer
Nor a tax advisor.
so I can only describe in general terms.
And wrong.
I'd think
> a permanemt resident has no recourse to not pay either social security
> or medicare. But a non-resident alien, in rare exceptions, do not
> have to pay either.
>
However you did change your description of this. You first said
non-citizens, not "non-resident aliens", and most non-citizens paying SS
and medicare withholding are resident aliens (for tax purposes).
So, your original statement about non-citizens is not correct for most
non-citizens that pay the tax.
Re: Add Visa pages to US passport
yaofeng wrote:
> On Mar 14, 9:35 pm, "ant" <britishtobaccoverificatio...@yahoo.co.uk>
> wrote:
> > yaofeng wrote:
> > > They may not be accountable to you. They are to us. As Shawn
> > > suggested, we have representation because we pay taxes.
> >
> > And I pay taxes too. I pay federal income tax, state income tax,
> > social security, and medicare. The latter two I cannot get any of
> > back, it's gone.
> >
> > but I have no representation when being jerked around by american
> > bureaucrats.
> >
> > That "no taxation without representation" thing they howled a few
> > centuries back seems to have become unfashionable. In my country,
> > the public servants are accountable for everything they do, to
> > anyone they deal with. There are rules, which they must abide by.
> > You don't need your local Member to get redress.
> >
> > --
> > ant
> > Don't try to email me;
> > I'm borrowing the spammer du jour's addy
>
> If you are not a citizen you do not have to pay either social security
> or medicare. Most foreigners working in the US don't know this. Get
> it rectified. But taxes you have to pay. Can't have the cake and eat
> it too.
How on earth do you avoid paying SS and medicare? These things are deducted
from our pay before we get it, by our HR people. SS in particular is a big
cut our of our pay. We can make claims against the state and federal tax,
just like at home, based on deductions. But SS and medicare are a fait
accompli.
--
ant
Don't try to email me;
I'm borrowing the spammer du jour's addy
yaofeng wrote:
> On Mar 14, 9:35 pm, "ant" <britishtobaccoverificatio...@yahoo.co.uk>
> wrote:
> > yaofeng wrote:
> > > They may not be accountable to you. They are to us. As Shawn
> > > suggested, we have representation because we pay taxes.
> >
> > And I pay taxes too. I pay federal income tax, state income tax,
> > social security, and medicare. The latter two I cannot get any of
> > back, it's gone.
> >
> > but I have no representation when being jerked around by american
> > bureaucrats.
> >
> > That "no taxation without representation" thing they howled a few
> > centuries back seems to have become unfashionable. In my country,
> > the public servants are accountable for everything they do, to
> > anyone they deal with. There are rules, which they must abide by.
> > You don't need your local Member to get redress.
> >
> > --
> > ant
> > Don't try to email me;
> > I'm borrowing the spammer du jour's addy
>
> If you are not a citizen you do not have to pay either social security
> or medicare. Most foreigners working in the US don't know this. Get
> it rectified. But taxes you have to pay. Can't have the cake and eat
> it too.
How on earth do you avoid paying SS and medicare? These things are deducted
from our pay before we get it, by our HR people. SS in particular is a big
cut our of our pay. We can make claims against the state and federal tax,
just like at home, based on deductions. But SS and medicare are a fait
accompli.
--
ant
Don't try to email me;
I'm borrowing the spammer du jour's addy
Re: Add Visa pages to US passport
On Mar 16, 2:20 am, "ant" <britishtobaccoverificatio...@yahoo.co.uk>
wrote:
> yaofeng wrote:
> > On Mar 14, 9:35 pm, "ant" <britishtobaccoverificatio...@yahoo.co.uk>
> > wrote:
> > > yaofeng wrote:
> > > > They may not be accountable to you. They are to us. As Shawn
> > > > suggested, we have representation because we pay taxes.
>
> > > And I pay taxes too. I pay federal income tax, state income tax,
> > > social security, and medicare. The latter two I cannot get any of
> > > back, it's gone.
>
> > > but I have no representation when being jerked around by american
> > > bureaucrats.
>
> > > That "no taxation without representation" thing they howled a few
> > > centuries back seems to have become unfashionable. In my country,
> > > the public servants are accountable for everything they do, to
> > > anyone they deal with. There are rules, which they must abide by.
> > > You don't need your local Member to get redress.
>
> > > --
> > > ant
> > > Don't try to email me;
> > > I'm borrowing the spammer du jour's addy
>
> > If you are not a citizen you do not have to pay either social security
> > or medicare. Most foreigners working in the US don't know this. Get
> > it rectified. But taxes you have to pay. Can't have the cake and eat
> > it too.
>
> How on earth do you avoid paying SS and medicare? These things are deducted
> from our pay before we get it, by our HR people. SS in particular is a big
> cut our of our pay. We can make claims against the state and federal tax,
> just like at home, based on deductions. But SS and medicare are a fait
> accompli.
>
> --
> ant
> Don't try to email me;
> I'm borrowing the spammer du jour's addy- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
I can't advise you on how to not pay SS but it can be done and has
been done. Saving money, your money to begine with, will motivate you
to find the correct form from thousands upon thousands of Federal
Forms to file.
On Mar 16, 2:20 am, "ant" <britishtobaccoverificatio...@yahoo.co.uk>
wrote:
> yaofeng wrote:
> > On Mar 14, 9:35 pm, "ant" <britishtobaccoverificatio...@yahoo.co.uk>
> > wrote:
> > > yaofeng wrote:
> > > > They may not be accountable to you. They are to us. As Shawn
> > > > suggested, we have representation because we pay taxes.
>
> > > And I pay taxes too. I pay federal income tax, state income tax,
> > > social security, and medicare. The latter two I cannot get any of
> > > back, it's gone.
>
> > > but I have no representation when being jerked around by american
> > > bureaucrats.
>
> > > That "no taxation without representation" thing they howled a few
> > > centuries back seems to have become unfashionable. In my country,
> > > the public servants are accountable for everything they do, to
> > > anyone they deal with. There are rules, which they must abide by.
> > > You don't need your local Member to get redress.
>
> > > --
> > > ant
> > > Don't try to email me;
> > > I'm borrowing the spammer du jour's addy
>
> > If you are not a citizen you do not have to pay either social security
> > or medicare. Most foreigners working in the US don't know this. Get
> > it rectified. But taxes you have to pay. Can't have the cake and eat
> > it too.
>
> How on earth do you avoid paying SS and medicare? These things are deducted
> from our pay before we get it, by our HR people. SS in particular is a big
> cut our of our pay. We can make claims against the state and federal tax,
> just like at home, based on deductions. But SS and medicare are a fait
> accompli.
>
> --
> ant
> Don't try to email me;
> I'm borrowing the spammer du jour's addy- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
I can't advise you on how to not pay SS but it can be done and has
been done. Saving money, your money to begine with, will motivate you
to find the correct form from thousands upon thousands of Federal
Forms to file.
Re: Add Visa pages to US passport
In message <1174048566.875675.78090@o5g2000hsb.googlegroups . com >
"yaofeng" <yaofengchen@gmail . com > wrote:
>I can't advise you on how to not pay SS but it can be done and has
>been done. Saving money, your money to begine with, will motivate you
>to find the correct form from thousands upon thousands of Federal
>Forms to file.
Translated, you don't know either, huh?
--
Insert something clever here.
In message <1174048566.875675.78090@o5g2000hsb.googlegroups . com >
"yaofeng" <yaofengchen@gmail . com > wrote:
>I can't advise you on how to not pay SS but it can be done and has
>been done. Saving money, your money to begine with, will motivate you
>to find the correct form from thousands upon thousands of Federal
>Forms to file.
Translated, you don't know either, huh?
--
Insert something clever here.
