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BA sat corpse in first class

Reply from: Newby
Date: 19 Mar 2007, 03:20
Re: BA sat corpse in first class


"Craig Welch" <craig@pacific . net .sg> wrote in message
news:UglLh.13092$8U4.1147@news-server.bigpond . net .au...
> EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) wrote:
>
> > Rubba Luva wrote:
>
> >> "It was a complete mess - they seemed to have no proper plans in place
> >> to deal with the situation," said Trinder, 54, a businessman from
> >> Brackley, Northamptonshire.
> >
> > No "proper plans in place"? How often does ANY airline have a passenger
> > die in transit? (It really doesn't seem the sort of event for which
> > advance planning would be given priority!)
>
> All major airlines have had experience with mid-air fatalities. There
> are procedures in place, the cabin crew are so trained, and it looks
> like this airline followed those procedures.
>
> --
> Craig

Why didn't they keep the body in Coach and move some live passengers into
First Class to make the needed space?



Reply from: Padraig Breathnach
Date: 19 Mar 2007, 02:40
Re: BA sat corpse in first class

"Newby" <nobody@nowhere . net > wrote:

>Why didn't they keep the body in Coach and move some live passengers into
>First Class to make the needed space?
>
Why should they? Because people in the back of the plane paid less
than £3000 for their tickets?

The thing that gets to me about the treatment of this story is the
apparent focus on the comfort of one passenger and the lack of
interest in the loss of a life and the understandable grief of the
bereaved. Even Trinder's claim about the body decaying and giving rise
to health and safety risks was quoted without being questioned or
challenged. Sure, it was disturbing for him, but perhaps if he had
seen how much less distressing his situation was than was that of the
bereaved family he would have kept his mouth shut rather than run off
to same pal in the media to show how selfish he is.

As BA apparently said, he should get over it.

--
PB
The return address has been MUNGED
My travel writing: * w w w .iol.ie/~draoi/

Reply from: Jean O'Boyle
Date: 19 Mar 2007, 04:19
Re: BA sat corpse in first class


"Padraig Breathnach" <padraigb@MUNGEDiol.ie> wrote in message
> The thing that gets to me about the treatment of this story is the
> apparent focus on the comfort of one passenger and the lack of
> interest in the loss of a life and the understandable grief of the
> bereaved. Even Trinder's claim about the body decaying and giving rise
> to health and safety risks was quoted without being questioned or
> challenged. Sure, it was disturbing for him, but perhaps if he had
> seen how much less distressing his situation was than was that of the
> bereaved family he would have kept his mouth shut rather than run off
> to same pal in the media to show how selfish he is.
>
> As BA apparently said, he should get over it.



Amen! Where is the compassion for the family?
Why are so many inconvenienced by and insensitive to someone else's tragedy
anymore?
Today's media thrives on this type of thing.

--Jean




Reply from: MC
Date: 20 Mar 2007, 02:27
Re: BA sat corpse in first class

"Jean O'Boyle" <j.oboyle@removefudged.sbcglobal . net > wrote in message
news:yjnLh.3992$Qw.132@newssvr29.news.prodigy . net ...
>
> "Padraig Breathnach" <padraigb@MUNGEDiol.ie> wrote in message
>>
>> As BA apparently said, he should get over it.
>
>
>
> Amen! Where is the compassion for the family?

They got an upgrade.

MC



Reply from: Runge
Date: 19 Mar 2007, 07:37
Re: BA sat corpse in first class

padraig plonks on topic and feeds the OT trolls along with diva thing.
Good man.

"Padraig Breathnach" <padraigb@MUNGEDiol.ie> a écrit dans le message de
news: fqprv29vk3c8nqumsofu8qb3r7qlq32duj@4ax . com ...
> "Newby" <nobody@nowhere . net > wrote:
>
>>Why didn't they keep the body in Coach and move some live passengers into
>>First Class to make the needed space?
>>
> Why should they? Because people in the back of the plane paid less
> than £3000 for their tickets?
>
> The thing that gets to me about the treatment of this story is the
> apparent focus on the comfort of one passenger and the lack of
> interest in the loss of a life and the understandable grief of the
> bereaved. Even Trinder's claim about the body decaying and giving rise
> to health and safety risks was quoted without being questioned or
> challenged. Sure, it was disturbing for him, but perhaps if he had
> seen how much less distressing his situation was than was that of the
> bereaved family he would have kept his mouth shut rather than run off
> to same pal in the media to show how selfish he is.
>
> As BA apparently said, he should get over it.
>
> --
> PB
> The return address has been MUNGED
> My travel writing: * w w w .iol.ie/~draoi/
>



Reply from: Newby
Date: 19 Mar 2007, 11:00
Re: BA sat corpse in first class


"Padraig Breathnach" <padraigb@MUNGEDiol.ie> wrote in message
news:fqprv29vk3c8nqumsofu8qb3r7qlq32duj@4ax . com ...
> "Newby" <nobody@nowhere . net > wrote:
>
> >Why didn't they keep the body in Coach and move some live passengers into
> >First Class to make the needed space?
> >
> Why should they? Because people in the back of the plane paid less
> than £3000 for their tickets?
>
[snipped]

No, it keeps the dead body in the seat that it paid for. What is the
rationale for moving it to first class instead of moving living passengers
to first class?



Reply from: Padraig Breathnach
Date: 19 Mar 2007, 12:01
Re: BA sat corpse in first class

"Newby" <nobody@nowhere . net > wrote:
>
>"Padraig Breathnach" <padraigb@MUNGEDiol.ie> wrote in message
>news:fqprv29vk3c8nqumsofu8qb3r7qlq32duj@4ax . com ...
>> "Newby" <nobody@nowhere . net > wrote:
>>
>> >Why didn't they keep the body in Coach and move some live passengers into
>> >First Class to make the needed space?
>> >
>> Why should they? Because people in the back of the plane paid less
>> than £3000 for their tickets?
>>
>[snipped]
>
>No, it keeps the dead body in the seat that it paid for. What is the
>rationale for moving it to first class instead of moving living passengers
>to first class?
>
What is the rationale for moving living passengers rather than a dead
body? Should not those living passengers be kept in the seats that
they paid for?

--
PB
The return address has been MUNGED
My travel writing: * w w w .iol.ie/~draoi/

Reply from: Mike Hunt
Date: 19 Mar 2007, 17:21
Re: BA sat corpse in first class

Padraig Breathnach wrote:

> What is the rationale for moving living passengers rather than a dead
> body? Should not those living passengers be kept in the seats that
> they paid for?
>

The dead person doesn't care. I am quite sure the econ class passengers
would rather be in FC

Reply from: Divamanque
Date: 19 Mar 2007, 17:36
Re: BA sat corpse in first class



Newby wrote:

> "Padraig Breathnach" <padraigb@MUNGEDiol.ie> wrote in message
> news:fqprv29vk3c8nqumsofu8qb3r7qlq32duj@4ax . com ...
>
>>"Newby" <nobody@nowhere . net > wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Why didn't they keep the body in Coach and move some live passengers into
>>>First Class to make the needed space?
>>>
>>
>>Why should they? Because people in the back of the plane paid less
>>than £3000 for their tickets?
>>
>
> [snipped]
>
> No, it keeps the dead body in the seat that it paid for. What is the
> rationale for moving it to first class instead of moving living passengers
> to first class?

Considering the "spaciousness" of coach, would YOU like to
be seated next to a corpse just because it was your seatmate
when it was alive? The obvious place for a body would be
the hold, but quite apart from the sensibilities of the
grieving relatives, I suspect that's not accessible during
flight.

Reply from: Lennart Petersen
Date: 19 Mar 2007, 19:14
Re: BA sat corpse in first class



"EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" <evgmsop@earthlink . net > skrev i meddelandet
news:etme6o01c4t@news2.newsguy . com ...
>
>
> Newby wrote:
>
>> "Padraig Breathnach" <padraigb@MUNGEDiol.ie> wrote in message
>> news:fqprv29vk3c8nqumsofu8qb3r7qlq32duj@4ax . com ...
>>
>>>"Newby" <nobody@nowhere . net > wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Why didn't they keep the body in Coach and move some live passengers
>>>>into
>>>>First Class to make the needed space?
>>>>
>>>
>>>Why should they? Because people in the back of the plane paid less
>>>than £3000 for their tickets?
>>>
>>
>> [snipped]
>>
>> No, it keeps the dead body in the seat that it paid for. What is the
>> rationale for moving it to first class instead of moving living
>> passengers
>> to first class?
>
> Considering the "spaciousness" of coach, would YOU like to be seated next
> to a corpse just because it was your seatmate when it was alive? The
> obvious place for a body would be the hold, but quite apart from the
> sensibilities of the grieving relatives, I suspect that's not accessible
> during flight.
--------
But aren't there some areas for the crew in the big airliners ?
Or having the corpse in a closed toilet ?



Reply from: ps
Date: 20 Mar 2007, 11:26
Re: BA sat corpse in first class


"Lennart Petersen" <lennart.petersen@swipnet.se> wrote in message
news:nqALh.36683$E02.14817@newsb.telia . net ...
>
>
> "EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" <evgmsop@earthlink . net > skrev i meddelandet
> news:etme6o01c4t@news2.newsguy . com ...
>>
>>
>> Newby wrote:
>>
>>> "Padraig Breathnach" <padraigb@MUNGEDiol.ie> wrote in message
>>> news:fqprv29vk3c8nqumsofu8qb3r7qlq32duj@4ax . com ...
>>>
>>>>"Newby" <nobody@nowhere . net > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Why didn't they keep the body in Coach and move some live passengers
>>>>>into
>>>>>First Class to make the needed space?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Why should they? Because people in the back of the plane paid less
>>>>than £3000 for their tickets?
>>>>
>>>
>>> [snipped]
>>>
>>> No, it keeps the dead body in the seat that it paid for. What is the
>>> rationale for moving it to first class instead of moving living
>>> passengers
>>> to first class?
>>
>> Considering the "spaciousness" of coach, would YOU like to be seated next
>> to a corpse just because it was your seatmate when it was alive? The
>> obvious place for a body would be the hold, but quite apart from the
>> sensibilities of the grieving relatives, I suspect that's not accessible
>> during flight.
> --------
> But aren't there some areas for the crew in the big airliners ?
> Or having the corpse in a closed toilet ?
>
That' the final indignity.
Anyway, travelling on long haul in both business and cattle class, airlines
do have a curtained off area for crew to rest. If pilots could give up their
rest area for corpses, surely they could use the FC seats for themselves?
Unless, of course, all seats are taken up.



Reply from: Padraig Breathnach
Date: 20 Mar 2007, 11:53
Re: BA sat corpse in first class

"ps" <pravin@ozemail . com .au> wrote:
>
>"Lennart Petersen" <lennart.petersen@swipnet.se> wrote in message
>news:nqALh.36683$E02.14817@newsb.telia . net ...
>>
>> But aren't there some areas for the crew in the big airliners ?
>> Or having the corpse in a closed toilet ?
>>
>That' the final indignity.
>Anyway, travelling on long haul in both business and cattle class, airlines
>do have a curtained off area for crew to rest. If pilots could give up their
>rest area for corpses, surely they could use the FC seats for themselves?
>Unless, of course, all seats are taken up.
>
There are passengers who would object very strongly to crew taking
seats in first class.

--
PB
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Reply from: The Reid
Date: 20 Mar 2007, 13:18
Re: BA sat corpse in first class

On Tue, 20 Mar 2007 10:53:32 +0000, Padraig Breathnach
<padraigb@MUNGEDiol.ie> wrote:

>There are passengers who would object very strongly to crew taking
>seats in first class.

i'm sure such ****holes exist, "me pay, you scum". For me a rested
pilot is nice, hostesses are different and can sit on my lap, as I'm a
lecherous dirty old man by training and inclination.
--
Mike Reid
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Reply from: yaofeng
Date: 20 Mar 2007, 13:47
Re: BA sat corpse in first class

On Mar 20, 6:53 am, Padraig Breathnach <padra...@MUNGEDiol.ie> wrote:
> "ps" <pra...@ozemail . com .au> wrote:
>
> >"Lennart Petersen" <lennart.peter...@swipnet.se> wrote in message
> >news:nqALh.36683$E02.14817@newsb.telia . net ...
>
> >> But aren't there some areas for the crew in the big airliners ?
> >> Or having the corpse in a closed toilet ?
>
> >That' the final indignity.
> >Anyway, travelling on long haul in both business and cattle class, airlines
> >do have a curtained off area for crew to rest. If pilots could give up their
> >rest area for corpses, surely they could use the FC seats for themselves?
> >Unless, of course, all seats are taken up.
>
> There are passengers who would object very strongly to crew taking
> seats in first class.
>
> --
> PB
> The return address has been MUNGED
> My travel writing: * w w w .iol.ie/~draoi/

They do it all the time, and get the same service as FC passengers by
fellow crew members. You scratch my back... You know. When there are
empty seats in FC, who's going to complain if the crew use one of the
empty seats to rest? The economy class passengers don't even know.
If you are in FC, will you complain? I haven't seen anyone in FC done
that. That's petty.


Reply from: Mxsmanic
Date: 20 Mar 2007, 14:26
Re: BA sat corpse in first class

yaofeng writes:

> If you are in FC, will you complain?

I don't care who else is in my class of seating, be it economy, business, or
first class.

> I haven't seen anyone in FC done that. That's petty.

There are lots of petty people in the world. I find it especially easy to
imagine on BA.

--
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