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Re: Chips
My loving bride likes Pringles... I dunno - the seem like smushed potatoes
to me... I like Lays... especially the ripple chips - gotta love that onion
dip...
"TimK" <timkozz@cfl.rr,com > wrote in message
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> Anyone with experience with chips - are there any brands to stay away
> from?
>
My loving bride likes Pringles... I dunno - the seem like smushed potatoes
to me... I like Lays... especially the ripple chips - gotta love that onion
dip...
"TimK" <timkozz@cfl.rr,com > wrote in message
news:48429303$0$3381$4c368faf@roadrunner,com ...
> Anyone with experience with chips - are there any brands to stay away
> from?
>
Re: Chips
TimK wrote:
> Anyone with experience with chips - are there any brands to stay away from?
>
>
Yeah, all of them. Unless you have modifications and you have a
custom prom made for your car and the mods you have.
--
"You wouldn't know acceptable behavior, let alone 'nice',
if it bit you on your pudgy ankles." - Sam Trap
TimK wrote:
> Anyone with experience with chips - are there any brands to stay away from?
>
>
Yeah, all of them. Unless you have modifications and you have a
custom prom made for your car and the mods you have.
--
"You wouldn't know acceptable behavior, let alone 'nice',
if it bit you on your pudgy ankles." - Sam Trap
Re: Chips
Unless you get the kind that is custom programmed utilizing data taken
from running the car on a dyno, I would stay away from them. Ever car
is different and using a generic chip could spell trouble. You could
run the car lean and that could ruin an engine in the blink of an eye.
TimK wrote:
> Anyone with experience with chips - are there any brands to stay away from?
Unless you get the kind that is custom programmed utilizing data taken
from running the car on a dyno, I would stay away from them. Ever car
is different and using a generic chip could spell trouble. You could
run the car lean and that could ruin an engine in the blink of an eye.
TimK wrote:
> Anyone with experience with chips - are there any brands to stay away from?
Re: Chips
Michael Johnson wrote:
> TimK wrote:
>> Anyone with experience with chips - are there any brands to stay away
>> from?
> Unless you get the kind that is custom programmed utilizing data taken
> from running the car on a dyno, I would stay away from them. Ever car
> is different and using a generic chip could spell trouble. You could
> run the car lean and that could ruin an engine in the blink of an eye.
>
Some people on the Titan forums actually lost power with them.
--
"You wouldn't know acceptable behavior, let alone 'nice',
if it bit you on your pudgy ankles." - Sam Trap
Michael Johnson wrote:
> TimK wrote:
>> Anyone with experience with chips - are there any brands to stay away
>> from?
> Unless you get the kind that is custom programmed utilizing data taken
> from running the car on a dyno, I would stay away from them. Ever car
> is different and using a generic chip could spell trouble. You could
> run the car lean and that could ruin an engine in the blink of an eye.
>
Some people on the Titan forums actually lost power with them.
--
"You wouldn't know acceptable behavior, let alone 'nice',
if it bit you on your pudgy ankles." - Sam Trap
Re: Chips
WindsorFox<SS> wrote:
> Michael Johnson wrote:
> > TimK wrote:
> >> Anyone with experience with chips - are there any brands to stay away
> >> from?
>
>> Unless you get the kind that is custom programmed utilizing data taken
>> from running the car on a dyno, I would stay away from them. Ever car
>> is different and using a generic chip could spell trouble. You could
>> run the car lean and that could ruin an engine in the blink of an eye.
>>
>
> Some people on the Titan forums actually lost power with them.
Screwing with the programming and not verifying the actual air to fuel
ratio or horsepower produced isn't a good idea, IMO. There is a lot to
be gained from a good tune. Especially, on the three valve engines.
Getting better throttle response and another 30 rwhp for $300-$400 isn't
a bad deal.
WindsorFox<SS> wrote:
> Michael Johnson wrote:
> > TimK wrote:
> >> Anyone with experience with chips - are there any brands to stay away
> >> from?
>
>> Unless you get the kind that is custom programmed utilizing data taken
>> from running the car on a dyno, I would stay away from them. Ever car
>> is different and using a generic chip could spell trouble. You could
>> run the car lean and that could ruin an engine in the blink of an eye.
>>
>
> Some people on the Titan forums actually lost power with them.
Screwing with the programming and not verifying the actual air to fuel
ratio or horsepower produced isn't a good idea, IMO. There is a lot to
be gained from a good tune. Especially, on the three valve engines.
Getting better throttle response and another 30 rwhp for $300-$400 isn't
a bad deal.
Re: Chips
"Michael Johnson" <cds@erols,com > wrote in message
news:qOGdnQ0IvtNMrN7VnZ2dnUVZ_gqdnZ2d@giganews,com ...
> WindsorFox<SS> wrote:
>> Michael Johnson wrote:
>> > TimK wrote:
>> >> Anyone with experience with chips - are there any brands to stay away
>> >> from?
>>
>>> Unless you get the kind that is custom programmed utilizing data taken
>>> from running the car on a dyno, I would stay away from them. Ever car
>>> is different and using a generic chip could spell trouble. You could
>>> run the car lean and that could ruin an engine in the blink of an eye.
>>>
>>
>> Some people on the Titan forums actually lost power with them.
>
> Screwing with the programming and not verifying the actual air to fuel
> ratio or horsepower produced isn't a good idea, IMO. There is a lot to be
> gained from a good tune. Especially, on the three valve engines. Getting
> better throttle response and another 30 rwhp for $300-$400 isn't a bad
> deal.
That's good feedback, thanks guys. I figured chips were too easy to be
true, as it were.
"Michael Johnson" <cds@erols,com > wrote in message
news:qOGdnQ0IvtNMrN7VnZ2dnUVZ_gqdnZ2d@giganews,com ...
> WindsorFox<SS> wrote:
>> Michael Johnson wrote:
>> > TimK wrote:
>> >> Anyone with experience with chips - are there any brands to stay away
>> >> from?
>>
>>> Unless you get the kind that is custom programmed utilizing data taken
>>> from running the car on a dyno, I would stay away from them. Ever car
>>> is different and using a generic chip could spell trouble. You could
>>> run the car lean and that could ruin an engine in the blink of an eye.
>>>
>>
>> Some people on the Titan forums actually lost power with them.
>
> Screwing with the programming and not verifying the actual air to fuel
> ratio or horsepower produced isn't a good idea, IMO. There is a lot to be
> gained from a good tune. Especially, on the three valve engines. Getting
> better throttle response and another 30 rwhp for $300-$400 isn't a bad
> deal.
That's good feedback, thanks guys. I figured chips were too easy to be
true, as it were.
Re: Chips
TimK wrote:
> "Michael Johnson" <cds@erols,com > wrote in message
> news:qOGdnQ0IvtNMrN7VnZ2dnUVZ gqdnZ2d@giganews,com ...
>> WindsorFox<SS> wrote:
>>> Michael Johnson wrote:
>>> > TimK wrote:
>>> >> Anyone with experience with chips - are there any brands to stay away
>>> >> from?
>>>
>>>> Unless you get the kind that is custom programmed utilizing data taken
>>>> from running the car on a dyno, I would stay away from them. Ever car
>>>> is different and using a generic chip could spell trouble. You could
>>>> run the car lean and that could ruin an engine in the blink of an eye.
>>>>
>>> Some people on the Titan forums actually lost power with them.
>> Screwing with the programming and not verifying the actual air to fuel
>> ratio or horsepower produced isn't a good idea, IMO. There is a lot to be
>> gained from a good tune. Especially, on the three valve engines. Getting
>> better throttle response and another 30 rwhp for $300-$400 isn't a bad
>> deal.
>
> That's good feedback, thanks guys. I figured chips were too easy to be
> true, as it were.
The can deliver better performance but if you are going to spend the
money on them you might as well do it in a manner that will maximize
your horsepower return for the dollar spent and insure you have a safe
tune. There are some amazing tuners out there now. One of the best,
IMO, is a guy that used to post here. His name is Ed Clark and I
believe he still tunes Mustangs in the Norfolk/Virginia Beach area. If
you go this route check out your tuner and and make sure he is reputable
and good.
TimK wrote:
> "Michael Johnson" <cds@erols,com > wrote in message
> news:qOGdnQ0IvtNMrN7VnZ2dnUVZ gqdnZ2d@giganews,com ...
>> WindsorFox<SS> wrote:
>>> Michael Johnson wrote:
>>> > TimK wrote:
>>> >> Anyone with experience with chips - are there any brands to stay away
>>> >> from?
>>>
>>>> Unless you get the kind that is custom programmed utilizing data taken
>>>> from running the car on a dyno, I would stay away from them. Ever car
>>>> is different and using a generic chip could spell trouble. You could
>>>> run the car lean and that could ruin an engine in the blink of an eye.
>>>>
>>> Some people on the Titan forums actually lost power with them.
>> Screwing with the programming and not verifying the actual air to fuel
>> ratio or horsepower produced isn't a good idea, IMO. There is a lot to be
>> gained from a good tune. Especially, on the three valve engines. Getting
>> better throttle response and another 30 rwhp for $300-$400 isn't a bad
>> deal.
>
> That's good feedback, thanks guys. I figured chips were too easy to be
> true, as it were.
The can deliver better performance but if you are going to spend the
money on them you might as well do it in a manner that will maximize
your horsepower return for the dollar spent and insure you have a safe
tune. There are some amazing tuners out there now. One of the best,
IMO, is a guy that used to post here. His name is Ed Clark and I
believe he still tunes Mustangs in the Norfolk/Virginia Beach area. If
you go this route check out your tuner and and make sure he is reputable
and good.
Re: Chips
TimK wrote:
> "Michael Johnson" <cds@erols,com > wrote in
> message
> news:qOGdnQ0IvtNMrN7VnZ2dnUVZ_gqdnZ2d@giganews,com ...
>> WindsorFox<SS> wrote:
>>> Michael Johnson wrote:
>>> > TimK wrote:
>>> >> Anyone with experience with chips - are
>>> there any brands to
>>> stay away >> from?
>>>
>>>> Unless you get the kind that is custom
>>>> programmed utilizing data
>>>> taken from running the car on a dyno, I would
>>>> stay away from them.
>>>> Ever car is different and using a generic
>>>> chip could spell
>>>> trouble. You could run the car lean and that
>>>> could ruin an engine
>>>> in the blink of an eye.
>>>
>>> Some people on the Titan forums actually
>>> lost power with them.
>>
>> Screwing with the programming and not verifying
>> the actual air to
>> fuel ratio or horsepower produced isn't a good
>> idea, IMO. There is
>> a lot to be gained from a good tune.
>> Especially, on the three valve
>> engines. Getting better throttle response and
>> another 30 rwhp for
>> $300-$400 isn't a bad deal.
>
> That's good feedback, thanks guys. I figured
> chips were too easy to
> be true, as it were.
--
Depends on what kind of car we're talking about,
and what you use it for. For my new Mustang, I
used a "custom" tune from Brenspeed. It's not
truly custom, but it's differant from stock. The
car runs much better than it used to. I like it.
I highly recommend an aftermarket tuner for almost
any computer controlled car.
I also used a Hypertech programmer on my dodge
truck. I didn't do that until about 50K miles.
And I immediatly said, "Dang! I should have done
this a long time ago!". That's why I retuned my
Mustang less than a month after I bought it.
OTOH, my Cobra does have a custom tune. Cost a
lot in dyno time, but worth every penny. The car
just makes stupid amounts of power all day long.
And yet still gets better gas mileage than my
truck.
--------
.boB
2006 FXDI hot rod
2008 Mustang Coupe
2001 Dodge Dakota QC 5.9/4x4/3.92
1965 FFR Cobra - 427W EFI, Damn Fast.
TimK wrote:
> "Michael Johnson" <cds@erols,com > wrote in
> message
> news:qOGdnQ0IvtNMrN7VnZ2dnUVZ_gqdnZ2d@giganews,com ...
>> WindsorFox<SS> wrote:
>>> Michael Johnson wrote:
>>> > TimK wrote:
>>> >> Anyone with experience with chips - are
>>> there any brands to
>>> stay away >> from?
>>>
>>>> Unless you get the kind that is custom
>>>> programmed utilizing data
>>>> taken from running the car on a dyno, I would
>>>> stay away from them.
>>>> Ever car is different and using a generic
>>>> chip could spell
>>>> trouble. You could run the car lean and that
>>>> could ruin an engine
>>>> in the blink of an eye.
>>>
>>> Some people on the Titan forums actually
>>> lost power with them.
>>
>> Screwing with the programming and not verifying
>> the actual air to
>> fuel ratio or horsepower produced isn't a good
>> idea, IMO. There is
>> a lot to be gained from a good tune.
>> Especially, on the three valve
>> engines. Getting better throttle response and
>> another 30 rwhp for
>> $300-$400 isn't a bad deal.
>
> That's good feedback, thanks guys. I figured
> chips were too easy to
> be true, as it were.
--
Depends on what kind of car we're talking about,
and what you use it for. For my new Mustang, I
used a "custom" tune from Brenspeed. It's not
truly custom, but it's differant from stock. The
car runs much better than it used to. I like it.
I highly recommend an aftermarket tuner for almost
any computer controlled car.
I also used a Hypertech programmer on my dodge
truck. I didn't do that until about 50K miles.
And I immediatly said, "Dang! I should have done
this a long time ago!". That's why I retuned my
Mustang less than a month after I bought it.
OTOH, my Cobra does have a custom tune. Cost a
lot in dyno time, but worth every penny. The car
just makes stupid amounts of power all day long.
And yet still gets better gas mileage than my
truck.
--------
.boB
2006 FXDI hot rod
2008 Mustang Coupe
2001 Dodge Dakota QC 5.9/4x4/3.92
1965 FFR Cobra - 427W EFI, Damn Fast.
Re: Chips
"Michael Johnson" <cds@erols,com > wrote in message
news:qOGdnQ0IvtNMrN7VnZ2dnUVZ_gqdnZ2d@giganews,com ...
> WindsorFox<SS> wrote:
>> Michael Johnson wrote:
>> > TimK wrote:
>> >> Anyone with experience with chips - are there any brands to stay away
>> >> from?
>>
>>> Unless you get the kind that is custom programmed utilizing data taken
>>> from running the car on a dyno, I would stay away from them. Ever car
>>> is different and using a generic chip could spell trouble. You could
>>> run the car lean and that could ruin an engine in the blink of an eye.
>>>
>>
>> Some people on the Titan forums actually lost power with them.
>
> Screwing with the programming and not verifying the actual air to fuel
> ratio or horsepower produced isn't a good idea, IMO. There is a lot to be
> gained from a good tune. Especially, on the three valve engines. Getting
> better throttle response and another 30 rwhp for $300-$400 isn't a bad
> deal.
get it professionally tuned with a wide band sensor. They take the risk,
not you
I heard they can take most of the throttle lag out of the newer cars.
HP peaks up as the air/fuel leans out, but detonation nears, and could get
worse in the summertime, and cause "difficulties".
Also you may not pass inspection if you have the tune much off 14.7 average
A/F ratio.
"Michael Johnson" <cds@erols,com > wrote in message
news:qOGdnQ0IvtNMrN7VnZ2dnUVZ_gqdnZ2d@giganews,com ...
> WindsorFox<SS> wrote:
>> Michael Johnson wrote:
>> > TimK wrote:
>> >> Anyone with experience with chips - are there any brands to stay away
>> >> from?
>>
>>> Unless you get the kind that is custom programmed utilizing data taken
>>> from running the car on a dyno, I would stay away from them. Ever car
>>> is different and using a generic chip could spell trouble. You could
>>> run the car lean and that could ruin an engine in the blink of an eye.
>>>
>>
>> Some people on the Titan forums actually lost power with them.
>
> Screwing with the programming and not verifying the actual air to fuel
> ratio or horsepower produced isn't a good idea, IMO. There is a lot to be
> gained from a good tune. Especially, on the three valve engines. Getting
> better throttle response and another 30 rwhp for $300-$400 isn't a bad
> deal.
get it professionally tuned with a wide band sensor. They take the risk,
not you
I heard they can take most of the throttle lag out of the newer cars.
HP peaks up as the air/fuel leans out, but detonation nears, and could get
worse in the summertime, and cause "difficulties".
Also you may not pass inspection if you have the tune much off 14.7 average
A/F ratio.
Re: Chips
TimK wrote:
> Anyone with experience with chips - are there any brands to stay away from?
>
>
I would recommend the "Edge Evolution Programmer" over the chips.
I am using one. The performance and the transmission have been
greatly improved. And I like the fact I can monitor what's
happening. I bought it at www .autoanything,com
TimK wrote:
> Anyone with experience with chips - are there any brands to stay away from?
>
>
I would recommend the "Edge Evolution Programmer" over the chips.
I am using one. The performance and the transmission have been
greatly improved. And I like the fact I can monitor what's
happening. I bought it at www .autoanything,com
