Paging Michael Johnson

Paging Michael Johnson

Do you have any links to dyno curves for the modded Cobra/Lightning engines?
Looking for HP and torque and general "under the curve" specs. Nothing too
outrageous, just the guy's that change injectors and do easy mods.

Al

9.02 @ 153 MPH OT door car

Re: Paging Michael Johnson

Big Al wrote:
> Do you have any links to dyno curves for the modded Cobra/Lightning engines?
> Looking for HP and torque and general "under the curve" specs. Nothing too
> outrageous, just the guy's that change injectors and do easy mods.

Which engines? The OHC ones, push rod and/or supercharged?

Re: Paging Michael Johnson


"Michael Johnson" <cds@erols,com > wrote in message
news:W_KdnQ7C_6kYKcvVnZ2dnUVZ_hOdnZ2d@giganews,com ...
> Big Al wrote:
>> Do you have any links to dyno curves for the modded Cobra/Lightning
>> engines? Looking for HP and torque and general "under the curve" specs.
>> Nothing too outrageous, just the guy's that change injectors and do easy
>> mods.
>
> Which engines? The OHC ones, push rod and/or supercharged?

Sorry, the newere Cobra DOHC supercharged. You told me they were getting
great numbers and living.

http :// www .lxforums,com /board/showthread.php?p=1610065#post1610065

Al

Re: Paging Michael Johnson

Big Al wrote:
> "Michael Johnson" <cds@erols,com > wrote in message
> news:W KdnQ7C 6kYKcvVnZ2dnUVZ hOdnZ2d@giganews,com ...
>> Big Al wrote:
>>> Do you have any links to dyno curves for the modded Cobra/Lightning
>>> engines? Looking for HP and torque and general "under the curve" specs.
>>> Nothing too outrageous, just the guy's that change injectors and do easy
>>> mods.
>> Which engines? The OHC ones, push rod and/or supercharged?
>
> Sorry, the newere Cobra DOHC supercharged. You told me they were getting
> great numbers and living.
>
> http :// www .lxforums,com /board/showthread.php?p10065#post1610065

The most popular and easiest high hp mod for the blown Cobras and
Lightnings are the Kenne Bell twin screw blower kits. Here are some
links and the numbers they show on the graphs are good and realistic:

http :// www .kennebell,net /superchargers/ford/Shelby/Shelby.htm
http :// www .kennebell,net /media/articles/SNAKEBITE.pdf
http :// www .kennebell,net /superchargers/ford/cobra03/cobra03.htm

You should see what they are getting from the turbocharged 4.6L Cobra
engines without even taking off the valve covers. The blown 4.6L
engines are one of the strongest V-8s EVER to come from Detroit, IMO.

Re: Paging Michael Johnson


"Michael Johnson" <cds@erols,com > wrote in message
news:lfGdnbcbjaSDTcvVnZ2dnUVZ_ovinZ2d@giganews,com ...
> Big Al wrote:
>> "Michael Johnson" <cds@erols,com > wrote in message
>> news:W_KdnQ7C_6kYKcvVnZ2dnUVZ_hOdnZ2d@giganews,com ...
>>> Big Al wrote:
>>>> Do you have any links to dyno curves for the modded Cobra/Lightning
>>>> engines? Looking for HP and torque and general "under the curve" specs.
>>>> Nothing too outrageous, just the guy's that change injectors and do
>>>> easy mods.
>>> Which engines? The OHC ones, push rod and/or supercharged?
>>
>> Sorry, the newere Cobra DOHC supercharged. You told me they were getting
>> great numbers and living.
>>
>> http :// www .lxforums,com /board/showthread.php?p=1610065#post1610065
>
> The most popular and easiest high hp mod for the blown Cobras and
> Lightnings are the Kenne Bell twin screw blower kits. Here are some links
> and the numbers they show on the graphs are good and realistic:
>
> http :// www .kennebell,net /superchargers/ford/Shelby/Shelby.htm
> http :// www .kennebell,net /media/articles/SNAKEBITE.pdf
> http :// www .kennebell,net /superchargers/ford/cobra03/cobra03.htm
>
> You should see what they are getting from the turbocharged 4.6L Cobra
> engines without even taking off the valve covers. You are 100% right. I
> should. Now where are they? :)

Al

Re: Paging Michael Johnson

Big Al wrote:
> "Michael Johnson" <cds@erols,com > wrote in message
> news:lfGdnbcbjaSDTcvVnZ2dnUVZ ovinZ2d@giganews,com ...
>> Big Al wrote:
>>> "Michael Johnson" <cds@erols,com > wrote in message
>>> news:W KdnQ7C 6kYKcvVnZ2dnUVZ hOdnZ2d@giganews,com ...
>>>> Big Al wrote:
>>>>> Do you have any links to dyno curves for the modded Cobra/Lightning
>>>>> engines? Looking for HP and torque and general "under the curve" specs.
>>>>> Nothing too outrageous, just the guy's that change injectors and do
>>>>> easy mods.
>>>> Which engines? The OHC ones, push rod and/or supercharged?
>>> Sorry, the newere Cobra DOHC supercharged. You told me they were getting
>>> great numbers and living.
>>>
>>> http :// www .lxforums,com /board/showthread.php?p10065#post1610065
>> The most popular and easiest high hp mod for the blown Cobras and
>> Lightnings are the Kenne Bell twin screw blower kits. Here are some links
>> and the numbers they show on the graphs are good and realistic:
>>
>> http :// www .kennebell,net /superchargers/ford/Shelby/Shelby.htm
>> http :// www .kennebell,net /media/articles/SNAKEBITE.pdf
>> http :// www .kennebell,net /superchargers/ford/cobra03/cobra03.htm
>>
>> You should see what they are getting from the turbocharged 4.6L Cobra
>> engines without even taking off the valve covers. You are 100% right. I
>> should. Now where are they? :)

If this doesn't do it for you nothing will. It is a turbo kit that
mounts in front of the stock Eaton blower on a stock Terminator engine.
Here is an excerpt from the article:

"The kit featured here is universal and can be used with a supercharger
or without it-the difference will be in the turbocharger sizing to fit
different applications. The piping and turbo mounting is universal in
all systems and mod-motor applications. For those brave enough and in
need of the excess, check out the turbo/ supercharger system. It will
not disappoint your appetite for ridiculous power levels. We watched
this setup throw out a certifiably insane 1,188 rwhp and an even more
impressive 1,015 rwtq-through a stock engine including the factory
cast-iron exhaust manifolds."

If 1,188 RWHP and 1,015 rwtq isn't enough to prove the point then
NOTHING will. Here's a link to the full article: http :// tinyurl,com /6o28aq

Re: Paging Michael Johnson


"Michael Johnson" <cds@erols,com > wrote in message
news:JvOdneR_j_bJiMrVnZ2dnUVZ_q_inZ2d@giganews,com ...
> Big Al wrote:
>> "Michael Johnson" <cds@erols,com > wrote in message
>> news:lfGdnbcbjaSDTcvVnZ2dnUVZ_ovinZ2d@giganews,com ...
>>> Big Al wrote:
>>>> "Michael Johnson" <cds@erols,com > wrote in message
>>>> news:W_KdnQ7C_6kYKcvVnZ2dnUVZ_hOdnZ2d@giganews,com ...
>>>>> Big Al wrote:
>>>>>> Do you have any links to dyno curves for the modded Cobra/Lightning
>>>>>> engines? Looking for HP and torque and general "under the curve"
>>>>>> specs. Nothing too outrageous, just the guy's that change injectors
>>>>>> and do easy mods.
>>>>> Which engines? The OHC ones, push rod and/or supercharged?
>>>> Sorry, the newere Cobra DOHC supercharged. You told me they were
>>>> getting great numbers and living.
>>>>
>>>> http :// www .lxforums,com /board/showthread.php?p=1610065#post1610065
>>> The most popular and easiest high hp mod for the blown Cobras and
>>> Lightnings are the Kenne Bell twin screw blower kits. Here are some
>>> links and the numbers they show on the graphs are good and realistic:
>>>
>>> http :// www .kennebell,net /superchargers/ford/Shelby/Shelby.htm
>>> http :// www .kennebell,net /media/articles/SNAKEBITE.pdf
>>> http :// www .kennebell,net /superchargers/ford/cobra03/cobra03.htm
>>>
>>> You should see what they are getting from the turbocharged 4.6L Cobra
>>> engines without even taking off the valve covers. You are 100% right. I
>>> should. Now where are they? :)
>
> If this doesn't do it for you nothing will. It is a turbo kit that mounts
> in front of the stock Eaton blower on a stock Terminator engine. Here is
> an excerpt from the article:
>
> "The kit featured here is universal and can be used with a supercharger or
> without it-the difference will be in the turbocharger sizing to fit
> different applications. The piping and turbo mounting is universal in all
> systems and mod-motor applications. For those brave enough and in need of
> the excess, check out the turbo/ supercharger system. It will not
> disappoint your appetite for ridiculous power levels. We watched this
> setup throw out a certifiably insane 1,188 rwhp and an even more
> impressive 1,015 rwtq-through a stock engine including the factory
> cast-iron exhaust manifolds."
>
> If 1,188 RWHP and 1,015 rwtq isn't enough to prove the point then NOTHING
> will. Here's a link to the full article: http :// tinyurl,com /6o28aq

gosh, I drive around town an typically use less than 150 HP, take off
sometimes using 320 HP, but 1,200 HP is totally undrivable except on a
stright track.
Think of it in terms of the gas petal travel, 1/4 the way in is 300HP, and
the back wheels would be spinning out.

Re: Paging Michael Johnson

Namehere wrote:
> "Michael Johnson" <cds@erols,com > wrote in message
> news:JvOdneR j bJiMrVnZ2dnUVZ q inZ2d@giganews,com ...
>> Big Al wrote:
>>> "Michael Johnson" <cds@erols,com > wrote in message
>>> news:lfGdnbcbjaSDTcvVnZ2dnUVZ ovinZ2d@giganews,com ...
>>>> Big Al wrote:
>>>>> "Michael Johnson" <cds@erols,com > wrote in message
>>>>> news:W KdnQ7C 6kYKcvVnZ2dnUVZ hOdnZ2d@giganews,com ...
>>>>>> Big Al wrote:
>>>>>>> Do you have any links to dyno curves for the modded Cobra/Lightning
>>>>>>> engines? Looking for HP and torque and general "under the curve"
>>>>>>> specs. Nothing too outrageous, just the guy's that change injectors
>>>>>>> and do easy mods.
>>>>>> Which engines? The OHC ones, push rod and/or supercharged?
>>>>> Sorry, the newere Cobra DOHC supercharged. You told me they were
>>>>> getting great numbers and living.
>>>>>
>>>>> http :// www .lxforums,com /board/showthread.php?p10065#post1610065
>>>> The most popular and easiest high hp mod for the blown Cobras and
>>>> Lightnings are the Kenne Bell twin screw blower kits. Here are some
>>>> links and the numbers they show on the graphs are good and realistic:
>>>>
>>>> http :// www .kennebell,net /superchargers/ford/Shelby/Shelby.htm
>>>> http :// www .kennebell,net /media/articles/SNAKEBITE.pdf
>>>> http :// www .kennebell,net /superchargers/ford/cobra03/cobra03.htm
>>>>
>>>> You should see what they are getting from the turbocharged 4.6L Cobra
>>>> engines without even taking off the valve covers. You are 100% right. I
>>>> should. Now where are they? :)
>> If this doesn't do it for you nothing will. It is a turbo kit that mounts
>> in front of the stock Eaton blower on a stock Terminator engine. Here is
>> an excerpt from the article:
>>
>> "The kit featured here is universal and can be used with a supercharger or
>> without it-the difference will be in the turbocharger sizing to fit
>> different applications. The piping and turbo mounting is universal in all
>> systems and mod-motor applications. For those brave enough and in need of
>> the excess, check out the turbo/ supercharger system. It will not
>> disappoint your appetite for ridiculous power levels. We watched this
>> setup throw out a certifiably insane 1,188 rwhp and an even more
>> impressive 1,015 rwtq-through a stock engine including the factory
>> cast-iron exhaust manifolds."
>>
>> If 1,188 RWHP and 1,015 rwtq isn't enough to prove the point then NOTHING
>> will. Here's a link to the full article: http :// tinyurl,com /6o28aq
>
> gosh, I drive around town an typically use less than 150 HP, take off
> sometimes using 320 HP, but 1,200 HP is totally undrivable except on a
> stright track.
> Think of it in terms of the gas petal travel, 1/4 the way in is 300HP, and
> the back wheels would be spinning out.

They talk about the problems they had keeping the wheels from spinning
on the dyno drum. Driving that car on public streets isn't for the
faint of heart or anyone with restless leg syndrome. The fact that a
stock Terminator engine can do several dyno pulls making well over 1,000
rwhp shows just how strong that engine was built and how much
performance potential Ford left untapped with it. We may never see
another one like it in our lifetimes.

Re: Paging Michael Johnson

Michael Johnson <cds@erols,com > wrote in
news:9rGdnWSymLEtucrVnZ2dnUVZ_ovinZ2d@giganews,com :

> Namehere wrote:
>> "Michael Johnson" <cds@erols,com > wrote in message
>> news:JvOdneR_j_bJiMrVnZ2dnUVZ_q_inZ2d@giganews,com ...
>>> Big Al wrote:
>>>> "Michael Johnson" <cds@erols,com > wrote in message
>>>> news:lfGdnbcbjaSDTcvVnZ2dnUVZ_ovinZ2d@giganews,com ...
>>>>> Big Al wrote:
>>>>>> "Michael Johnson" <cds@erols,com > wrote in message
>>>>>> news:W_KdnQ7C_6kYKcvVnZ2dnUVZ_hOdnZ2d@giganews,com ...
>>>>>>> Big Al wrote:
>>>>>>>> Do you have any links to dyno curves for the modded
>>>>>>>> Cobra/Lightning engines? Looking for HP and torque and general
>>>>>>>> "under the curve" specs. Nothing too outrageous, just the guy's
>>>>>>>> that change injectors and do easy mods.
>>>>>>> Which engines? The OHC ones, push rod and/or supercharged?
>>>>>> Sorry, the newere Cobra DOHC supercharged. You told me they were
>>>>>> getting great numbers and living.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http :// www .lxforums,com /board/showthread.php?p=1610065
#post1610065
>>>>> The most popular and easiest high hp mod for the blown Cobras and
>>>>> Lightnings are the Kenne Bell twin screw blower kits. Here are
>>>>> some links and the numbers they show on the graphs are good and
>>>>> realistic:
>>>>>
>>>>> http :// www .kennebell,net /superchargers/ford/Shelby/Shelby.htm
>>>>> http :// www .kennebell,net /media/articles/SNAKEBITE.pdf
>>>>> http :// www .kennebell,net /superchargers/ford/cobra03/cobra03.htm
>>>>>
>>>>> You should see what they are getting from the turbocharged 4.6L
>>>>> Cobra engines without even taking off the valve covers. You are
>>>>> 100% right. I should. Now where are they? :)
>>> If this doesn't do it for you nothing will. It is a turbo kit that
>>> mounts in front of the stock Eaton blower on a stock Terminator
>>> engine. Here is an excerpt from the article:
>>>
>>> "The kit featured here is universal and can be used with a
>>> supercharger or without it-the difference will be in the
>>> turbocharger sizing to fit different applications. The piping and
>>> turbo mounting is universal in all systems and mod-motor
>>> applications. For those brave enough and in need of the excess,
>>> check out the turbo/ supercharger system. It will not disappoint
>>> your appetite for ridiculous power levels. We watched this setup
>>> throw out a certifiably insane 1,188 rwhp and an even more
>>> impressive 1,015 rwtq-through a stock engine including the factory
>>> cast-iron exhaust manifolds."
>>>
>>> If 1,188 RWHP and 1,015 rwtq isn't enough to prove the point then
>>> NOTHING will. Here's a link to the full article:
>>> http :// tinyurl,com /6o28aq
>>
>> gosh, I drive around town an typically use less than 150 HP, take
>> off sometimes using 320 HP, but 1,200 HP is totally undrivable except
>> on a stright track.
>> Think of it in terms of the gas petal travel, 1/4 the way in is
>> 300HP, and the back wheels would be spinning out.
>
> They talk about the problems they had keeping the wheels from spinning
> on the dyno drum. Driving that car on public streets isn't for the
> faint of heart or anyone with restless leg syndrome. The fact that a
> stock Terminator engine can do several dyno pulls making well over
> 1,000 rwhp shows just how strong that engine was built and how much
> performance potential Ford left untapped with it. We may never see
> another one like it in our lifetimes.

Looks like quite a fun ride, but I have to wonder how durable it really
is. I'd like to see that car in 6 months or so...

Re: Paging Michael Johnson

Joe wrote:
> Michael Johnson <cds@erols,com > wrote in
> news:9rGdnWSymLEtucrVnZ2dnUVZ ovinZ2d@giganews,com :
>
>> Namehere wrote:
>>> "Michael Johnson" <cds@erols,com > wrote in message
>>> news:JvOdneR j bJiMrVnZ2dnUVZ q inZ2d@giganews,com ...
>>>> Big Al wrote:
>>>>> "Michael Johnson" <cds@erols,com > wrote in message
>>>>> news:lfGdnbcbjaSDTcvVnZ2dnUVZ ovinZ2d@giganews,com ...
>>>>>> Big Al wrote:
>>>>>>> "Michael Johnson" <cds@erols,com > wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:W KdnQ7C 6kYKcvVnZ2dnUVZ hOdnZ2d@giganews,com ...
>>>>>>>> Big Al wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Do you have any links to dyno curves for the modded
>>>>>>>>> Cobra/Lightning engines? Looking for HP and torque and general
>>>>>>>>> "under the curve" specs. Nothing too outrageous, just the guy's
>>>>>>>>> that change injectors and do easy mods.
>>>>>>>> Which engines? The OHC ones, push rod and/or supercharged?
>>>>>>> Sorry, the newere Cobra DOHC supercharged. You told me they were
>>>>>>> getting great numbers and living.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http :// www .lxforums,com /board/showthread.php?p10065
> #post1610065
>>>>>> The most popular and easiest high hp mod for the blown Cobras and
>>>>>> Lightnings are the Kenne Bell twin screw blower kits. Here are
>>>>>> some links and the numbers they show on the graphs are good and
>>>>>> realistic:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http :// www .kennebell,net /superchargers/ford/Shelby/Shelby.htm
>>>>>> http :// www .kennebell,net /media/articles/SNAKEBITE.pdf
>>>>>> http :// www .kennebell,net /superchargers/ford/cobra03/cobra03.htm
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You should see what they are getting from the turbocharged 4.6L
>>>>>> Cobra engines without even taking off the valve covers. You are
>>>>>> 100% right. I should. Now where are they? :)
>>>> If this doesn't do it for you nothing will. It is a turbo kit that
>>>> mounts in front of the stock Eaton blower on a stock Terminator
>>>> engine. Here is an excerpt from the article:
>>>>
>>>> "The kit featured here is universal and can be used with a
>>>> supercharger or without it-the difference will be in the
>>>> turbocharger sizing to fit different applications. The piping and
>>>> turbo mounting is universal in all systems and mod-motor
>>>> applications. For those brave enough and in need of the excess,
>>>> check out the turbo/ supercharger system. It will not disappoint
>>>> your appetite for ridiculous power levels. We watched this setup
>>>> throw out a certifiably insane 1,188 rwhp and an even more
>>>> impressive 1,015 rwtq-through a stock engine including the factory
>>>> cast-iron exhaust manifolds."
>>>>
>>>> If 1,188 RWHP and 1,015 rwtq isn't enough to prove the point then
>>>> NOTHING will. Here's a link to the full article:
>>>> http :// tinyurl,com /6o28aq
>>> gosh, I drive around town an typically use less than 150 HP, take
>>> off sometimes using 320 HP, but 1,200 HP is totally undrivable except
>>> on a stright track.
>>> Think of it in terms of the gas petal travel, 1/4 the way in is
>>> 300HP, and the back wheels would be spinning out.
>> They talk about the problems they had keeping the wheels from spinning
>> on the dyno drum. Driving that car on public streets isn't for the
>> faint of heart or anyone with restless leg syndrome. The fact that a
>> stock Terminator engine can do several dyno pulls making well over
>> 1,000 rwhp shows just how strong that engine was built and how much
>> performance potential Ford left untapped with it. We may never see
>> another one like it in our lifetimes.
>
> Looks like quite a fun ride, but I have to wonder how durable it really
> is. I'd like to see that car in 6 months or so...

I'm impressed a stock engine can make several dyno runs at that power
level and survive at all. I'm sure something will eventually break on
it but that setup is a testament to the strength of that engine. It is
built like a brick shit house.

Re: Paging Michael Johnson

Michael Johnson <cds@erols,com > wrote in
news:MeudnQcFA8oKisXVnZ2dnUVZ_qHinZ2d@giganews,com :

> Joe wrote:
>> Michael Johnson <cds@erols,com > wrote in
>> news:9rGdnWSymLEtucrVnZ2dnUVZ_ovinZ2d@giganews,com :
>>
>>> Namehere wrote:
>>>> "Michael Johnson" <cds@erols,com > wrote in message
>>>> news:JvOdneR_j_bJiMrVnZ2dnUVZ_q_inZ2d@giganews,com ...
>>>>> Big Al wrote:
>>>>>> "Michael Johnson" <cds@erols,com > wrote in message
>>>>>> news:lfGdnbcbjaSDTcvVnZ2dnUVZ_ovinZ2d@giganews,com ...
>>>>>>> Big Al wrote:
>>>>>>>> "Michael Johnson" <cds@erols,com > wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:W_KdnQ7C_6kYKcvVnZ2dnUVZ_hOdnZ2d@giganews,com ...
>>>>>>>>> Big Al wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Do you have any links to dyno curves for the modded
>>>>>>>>>> Cobra/Lightning engines? Looking for HP and torque and
general
>>>>>>>>>> "under the curve" specs. Nothing too outrageous, just the
guy's
>>>>>>>>>> that change injectors and do easy mods.
>>>>>>>>> Which engines? The OHC ones, push rod and/or supercharged?
>>>>>>>> Sorry, the newere Cobra DOHC supercharged. You told me they
were
>>>>>>>> getting great numbers and living.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http :// www .lxforums,com /board/showthread.php?p=1610065
>> #post1610065
>>>>>>> The most popular and easiest high hp mod for the blown Cobras
and
>>>>>>> Lightnings are the Kenne Bell twin screw blower kits. Here are
>>>>>>> some links and the numbers they show on the graphs are good and
>>>>>>> realistic:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http :// www .kennebell,net /superchargers/ford/Shelby/Shelby.htm
>>>>>>> http :// www .kennebell,net /media/articles/SNAKEBITE.pdf
>>>>>>> http :// www .kennebell,net /superchargers/ford/cobra03/cobra03.htm
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You should see what they are getting from the turbocharged 4.6L
>>>>>>> Cobra engines without even taking off the valve covers. You are
>>>>>>> 100% right. I should. Now where are they? :)
>>>>> If this doesn't do it for you nothing will. It is a turbo kit
that
>>>>> mounts in front of the stock Eaton blower on a stock Terminator
>>>>> engine. Here is an excerpt from the article:
>>>>>
>>>>> "The kit featured here is universal and can be used with a
>>>>> supercharger or without it-the difference will be in the
>>>>> turbocharger sizing to fit different applications. The piping and
>>>>> turbo mounting is universal in all systems and mod-motor
>>>>> applications. For those brave enough and in need of the excess,
>>>>> check out the turbo/ supercharger system. It will not disappoint
>>>>> your appetite for ridiculous power levels. We watched this setup
>>>>> throw out a certifiably insane 1,188 rwhp and an even more
>>>>> impressive 1,015 rwtq-through a stock engine including the factory
>>>>> cast-iron exhaust manifolds."
>>>>>
>>>>> If 1,188 RWHP and 1,015 rwtq isn't enough to prove the point then
>>>>> NOTHING will. Here's a link to the full article:
>>>>> http :// tinyurl,com /6o28aq
>>>> gosh, I drive around town an typically use less than 150 HP, take
>>>> off sometimes using 320 HP, but 1,200 HP is totally undrivable
except
>>>> on a stright track.
>>>> Think of it in terms of the gas petal travel, 1/4 the way in is
>>>> 300HP, and the back wheels would be spinning out.
>>> They talk about the problems they had keeping the wheels from
spinning
>>> on the dyno drum. Driving that car on public streets isn't for the
>>> faint of heart or anyone with restless leg syndrome. The fact that
a
>>> stock Terminator engine can do several dyno pulls making well over
>>> 1,000 rwhp shows just how strong that engine was built and how much
>>> performance potential Ford left untapped with it. We may never see
>>> another one like it in our lifetimes.
>>
>> Looks like quite a fun ride, but I have to wonder how durable it
really
>> is. I'd like to see that car in 6 months or so...
>
> I'm impressed a stock engine can make several dyno runs at that power
> level and survive at all.

True, but pure logic begs questioning the reliability of such a setup.
As an engineer, I'm sure you know what I mean. :)

> I'm sure something will eventually break on
> it but that setup is a testament to the strength of that engine. It
is
> built like a brick shit house.

Granted, that motor is built extremely well. But there is a balance
between power levels and reliability. It would be interesting to see
that graph.

Re: Paging Michael Johnson

Joe wrote:
> Michael Johnson <cds@erols,com > wrote in
> news:MeudnQcFA8oKisXVnZ2dnUVZ qHinZ2d@giganews,com :
>
>> Joe wrote:
>>> Michael Johnson <cds@erols,com > wrote in
>>> news:9rGdnWSymLEtucrVnZ2dnUVZ ovinZ2d@giganews,com :
>>>
>>>> Namehere wrote:
>>>>> "Michael Johnson" <cds@erols,com > wrote in message
>>>>> news:JvOdneR j bJiMrVnZ2dnUVZ q inZ2d@giganews,com ...
>>>>>> Big Al wrote:
>>>>>>> "Michael Johnson" <cds@erols,com > wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:lfGdnbcbjaSDTcvVnZ2dnUVZ ovinZ2d@giganews,com ...
>>>>>>>> Big Al wrote:
>>>>>>>>> "Michael Johnson" <cds@erols,com > wrote in message
>>>>>>>>> news:W KdnQ7C 6kYKcvVnZ2dnUVZ hOdnZ2d@giganews,com ...
>>>>>>>>>> Big Al wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Do you have any links to dyno curves for the modded
>>>>>>>>>>> Cobra/Lightning engines? Looking for HP and torque and
> general
>>>>>>>>>>> "under the curve" specs. Nothing too outrageous, just the
> guy's
>>>>>>>>>>> that change injectors and do easy mods.
>>>>>>>>>> Which engines? The OHC ones, push rod and/or supercharged?
>>>>>>>>> Sorry, the newere Cobra DOHC supercharged. You told me they
> were
>>>>>>>>> getting great numbers and living.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> http :// www .lxforums,com /board/showthread.php?p10065
>>> #post1610065
>>>>>>>> The most popular and easiest high hp mod for the blown Cobras
> and
>>>>>>>> Lightnings are the Kenne Bell twin screw blower kits. Here are
>>>>>>>> some links and the numbers they show on the graphs are good and
>>>>>>>> realistic:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http :// www .kennebell,net /superchargers/ford/Shelby/Shelby.htm
>>>>>>>> http :// www .kennebell,net /media/articles/SNAKEBITE.pdf
>>>>>>>> http :// www .kennebell,net /superchargers/ford/cobra03/cobra03.htm
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You should see what they are getting from the turbocharged 4.6L
>>>>>>>> Cobra engines without even taking off the valve covers. You are
>>>>>>>> 100% right. I should. Now where are they? :)
>>>>>> If this doesn't do it for you nothing will. It is a turbo kit
> that
>>>>>> mounts in front of the stock Eaton blower on a stock Terminator
>>>>>> engine. Here is an excerpt from the article:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "The kit featured here is universal and can be used with a
>>>>>> supercharger or without it-the difference will be in the
>>>>>> turbocharger sizing to fit different applications. The piping and
>>>>>> turbo mounting is universal in all systems and mod-motor
>>>>>> applications. For those brave enough and in need of the excess,
>>>>>> check out the turbo/ supercharger system. It will not disappoint
>>>>>> your appetite for ridiculous power levels. We watched this setup
>>>>>> throw out a certifiably insane 1,188 rwhp and an even more
>>>>>> impressive 1,015 rwtq-through a stock engine including the factory
>>>>>> cast-iron exhaust manifolds."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If 1,188 RWHP and 1,015 rwtq isn't enough to prove the point then
>>>>>> NOTHING will. Here's a link to the full article:
>>>>>> http :// tinyurl,com /6o28aq
>>>>> gosh, I drive around town an typically use less than 150 HP, take
>>>>> off sometimes using 320 HP, but 1,200 HP is totally undrivable
> except
>>>>> on a stright track.
>>>>> Think of it in terms of the gas petal travel, 1/4 the way in is
>>>>> 300HP, and the back wheels would be spinning out.
>>>> They talk about the problems they had keeping the wheels from
> spinning
>>>> on the dyno drum. Driving that car on public streets isn't for the
>>>> faint of heart or anyone with restless leg syndrome. The fact that
> a
>>>> stock Terminator engine can do several dyno pulls making well over
>>>> 1,000 rwhp shows just how strong that engine was built and how much
>>>> performance potential Ford left untapped with it. We may never see
>>>> another one like it in our lifetimes.
>>> Looks like quite a fun ride, but I have to wonder how durable it
> really
>>> is. I'd like to see that car in 6 months or so...
>> I'm impressed a stock engine can make several dyno runs at that power
>> level and survive at all.
>
> True, but pure logic begs questioning the reliability of such a setup.
> As an engineer, I'm sure you know what I mean. :)

I think that setup might last longer than expected. Other parts of the
drive train would like fail before the engine. Plus if the wheels spin
then much of the strain is off the engine and other parts. The truth
is, I don't think it is known just where the breaking point is for that
motor.

>> I'm sure something will eventually break on
>> it but that setup is a testament to the strength of that engine. It
> is
>> built like a brick shit house.
>
> Granted, that motor is built extremely well. But there is a balance
> between power levels and reliability. It would be interesting to see
> that graph.

I don't see that car serving as a daily driver. Besides, that much
power is unusable on the street so the engine would likely never be
stressed driving around town. As I said above, I don't think the graph
has been drawn yet for that engine. I can't think of another production
engine that can deliver the hp/litre it can with stock parts.

Re: Paging Michael Johnson


>
> Looks like quite a fun ride, but I have to wonder how durable it really
> is. I'd like to see that car in 6 months or so...

And I would like to see some milder stuff. Like a hopped up 3 valve. HINT!

Al

Re: Paging Michael Johnson

Big Al wrote:
>> Looks like quite a fun ride, but I have to wonder how durable it really
>> is. I'd like to see that car in 6 months or so...
>
> And I would like to see some milder stuff. Like a hopped up 3 valve. HINT!

Google is your friend.

Re: Paging Michael Johnson


Googled and found some dyno sheets. Most are from cars running nitrous
setups or superchargers. Would be neat to see some "tweeked" stock 3 valve
sheets.

I'm at the drags a lot, most of the 4.6's I see can't get out of their own
way. I'd like to see some good running stock examples. Last Friday night
some guys I know took two Mustangs to the drags. One of them broke into the
15's, one time. 15.9, all other runs from both cars were in the 16's. Both
complained about traction. Our strip is very sticky. If you walk out there
your shoes stick to the track. Have to wonder of it's somehow the wrong
setup for street tires?? Something else, I have an 03 5 speed Mustang and an
02 Z28. The Z28 can put lots of HP down without squeaking the tires. The
Mustang can't. My 87 and 89 5.0's were the same. You had to play with the
throttle to keep them from going up in smoke. My Z has much more power and
you can open it wide with no problems. The Z has that long bar going to the
rear transmission mount to control axle wrap. That or something makes the
difference.

There is a Corvette club here that has outings at the strip. They are
pathetic. Most run in the 16's or high 15's. No way can I figure why. They
should run better than that in drive with an easy launch.

Off the subject. There is an automatic 96 GT convertible for sale here with
engine problems. Looks like a Premium, leather seats and so on. Guy wants
$1,000 for it. It's rough, looks like a bunch of people sat on the hood,
but?? So what would a decent 4.6 cost?

Al