CB power

CB power


Hey fellas. I'm wiring a new CB tomorrow and I want to do it right. I
can't find the exact answer I'm looking for on the All Seeing Eye, so
here I am.

When wiring power, I understand it's best to go to the source (battery).
What I don't know is...

1. Should BOTH the red AND black wire be connected to the battery @ pos
and neg terminals respectively?

2. If not, then the black wire should be attached to ground, but where?

2a. Should I ground in the engine compartment or...

2b. Is it best to make the ground wire as short as possible (i.e.,
shorten the black wire to around a foot or two and ground in the cab)?


Thanks.
n.

Re: CB power

Hi Nathan,
Many of the rules for a radio phone installation apply to your Citizen
Band radio: http :// service.gm,com /techlineinfo/radio.html Antenna:
http :// www .firestik,com /Tech_Docs.htm
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol,com http :// www .billhughes,com /


"Nathan Otis" <na@sSmPeAaMt,net > wrote in message
news:jv6dnUjy-LITHX7bnZ2dnUVZ_tajnZ2d@comcast,com ...
>
> Hey fellas. I'm wiring a new CB tomorrow and I want to do it right. I
> can't find the exact answer I'm looking for on the All Seeing Eye, so
> here I am.
>
> When wiring power, I understand it's best to go to the source (battery).
> What I don't know is...
>
> 1. Should BOTH the red AND black wire be connected to the battery @ pos
> and neg terminals respectively?
>
> 2. If not, then the black wire should be attached to ground, but where?
>
> 2a. Should I ground in the engine compartment or...
>
> 2b. Is it best to make the ground wire as short as possible (i.e.,
> shorten the black wire to around a foot or two and ground in the cab)?
>
>
> Thanks.
> n.



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Re: CB power

On Sat, 08 Sep 2007 23:11:49 -0600, Nathan Otis wrote:

>
> Hey fellas. I'm wiring a new CB tomorrow and I want to do it right. I
> can't find the exact answer I'm looking for on the All Seeing Eye, so
> here I am.
>
> When wiring power, I understand it's best to go to the source (battery).
> What I don't know is...
>
> 1. Should BOTH the red AND black wire be connected to the battery @ pos
> and neg terminals respectively?
>
> 2. If not, then the black wire should be attached to ground, but where?
>
> 2a. Should I ground in the engine compartment or...
>
> 2b. Is it best to make the ground wire as short as possible (i.e.,
> shorten the black wire to around a foot or two and ground in the cab)?
>
>
> Thanks.
> n.


Be very cautious when dealing with any and all info and links provided by
Bill Hughes.

Re: CB power

On Sun, 09 Sep 2007 10:34:07 GMT, x <x@x,com > wrote:

>On Sat, 08 Sep 2007 23:11:49 -0600, Nathan Otis wrote:
>
>>
>> Hey fellas. I'm wiring a new CB tomorrow and I want to do it right. I
>> can't find the exact answer I'm looking for on the All Seeing Eye, so
>> here I am.
>>
>> When wiring power, I understand it's best to go to the source (battery).
>> What I don't know is...
>>
>> 1. Should BOTH the red AND black wire be connected to the battery @ pos
>> and neg terminals respectively?
>>
>> 2. If not, then the black wire should be attached to ground, but where?
>>
>> 2a. Should I ground in the engine compartment or...
>>
>> 2b. Is it best to make the ground wire as short as possible (i.e.,
>> shorten the black wire to around a foot or two and ground in the cab)?
>>
>>
>> Thanks.
>> n.
>
>
>Be very cautious when dealing with any and all info and links provided by
>Bill Hughes.
>
>
>

Having used Firestik antennas for a number of years, I'd trust
anything on their site...even if you provided the link.

Wish you guys'd give it a rest.
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'95 YJ Rio Grande
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Re: CB power

You will get all kinds of 'short cut' answers. Run both directly to the
battery. Make sure your pos(+) is fused.

tw


Nathan Otis wrote:
>
> Hey fellas. I'm wiring a new CB tomorrow and I want to do it right. I
> can't find the exact answer I'm looking for on the All Seeing Eye, so
> here I am.
>
> When wiring power, I understand it's best to go to the source (battery).
> What I don't know is...
>
> 1. Should BOTH the red AND black wire be connected to the battery @ pos
> and neg terminals respectively?
>
> 2. If not, then the black wire should be attached to ground, but where?
>
> 2a. Should I ground in the engine compartment or...
>
> 2b. Is it best to make the ground wire as short as possible (i.e.,
> shorten the black wire to around a foot or two and ground in the cab)?
>
>
> Thanks.
> n.

Re: CB power



twaldron wrote:
> You will get all kinds of 'short cut' answers. Run both directly to the
> battery. Make sure your pos(+) is fused.
>
> tw

Thanks so much, T-Dub. I haven't been around here for quite some time...
It's comforting that nothing has changed.

Re: CB power

Nathan Otis wrote:

>
>
> twaldron wrote:
>
>> You will get all kinds of 'short cut' answers. Run both directly to
>> the battery. Make sure your pos(+) is fused.
>>
>> tw
>
>
> Thanks so much, T-Dub. I haven't been around here for quite some time...
> It's comforting that nothing has changed.


Welcome back Nathan. Just use your email filters and you'd be surprised
how quiet it is!

tw

Re: CB power

twaldron wrote:
> You will get all kinds of 'short cut' answers. Run both directly to
> the battery. Make sure your pos(+) is fused.

Yup, and fused as close to the battery as convenient. You can either
install a circuit breaker or a new fuse block. I don't much care for
the inline fuses as the cheaper ones tend to melt under load.

I like these if your going to run the CB for extended periods without
the engine running. http :// www .prioritystart,com /ps_pro.html

> Nathan Otis wrote:
>>
>> Hey fellas. I'm wiring a new CB tomorrow and I want to do it right. I
>> can't find the exact answer I'm looking for on the All Seeing Eye, so
>> here I am.
>>
>> When wiring power, I understand it's best to go to the source
>> (battery). What I don't know is...
>>
>> 1. Should BOTH the red AND black wire be connected to the battery @
>> pos and neg terminals respectively?

Running from the battery is best.

>> 2. If not, then the black wire should be attached to ground, but
>> where?

Use the frame bolt where the battery - attaches. There is usually
enough thread on that to put on another bolt.

>> 2a. Should I ground in the engine compartment or...
>>
>> 2b. Is it best to make the ground wire as short as possible (i.e.,
>> shorten the black wire to around a foot or two and ground in the
>> cab)?

Grounding in the cab can cause problems for the other electrical systems
and noise on your CB. It's better to go to the battery.



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Re: CB power

DougW wrote:
>>>2. If not, then the black wire should be attached to ground, but
>>>where?
>
>
> Use the frame bolt where the battery - attaches. There is usually
> enough thread on that to put on another bolt.

Why bother? Attaching at the NEG(-) battery terminal performs the same
function as running more lead to the block where the battery grounds.
The battery cable is much more than enough to carry the necessary radio
ground and saves the further wire run. Just attach both at the battery
terminals.

tw

Re: CB power

twaldron <dude@hairsproutingbunions,com > wrote:

> DougW wrote:
>>>>2. If not, then the black wire should be attached to ground, but
>>>>where?
>>
>>
>> Use the frame bolt where the battery - attaches. There is
>> usually enough thread on that to put on another bolt.
>
> Why bother? Attaching at the NEG(-) battery terminal performs the
> same function as running more lead to the block where the battery
> grounds.

Because Jeeps have had problems in the past with ground loops causing
CB noise. It might be worthwhile to consult with a local CB shop it
there's one available.



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Re: CB power

XS11E wrote:

> twaldron <dude@hairsproutingbunions,com > wrote:
>
>
>>DougW wrote:
>>
>>>>>2. If not, then the black wire should be attached to ground, but
>>>>>where?
>>>
>>>
>>>Use the frame bolt where the battery - attaches. There is
>>>usually enough thread on that to put on another bolt.
>>
>>Why bother? Attaching at the NEG(-) battery terminal performs the
>>same function as running more lead to the block where the battery
>>grounds.
>
>
> Because Jeeps have had problems in the past with ground loops causing
> CB noise. It might be worthwhile to consult with a local CB shop it
> there's one available.
>
>
>

If you are attaching at the battery, how do you get a ground loop?

tw

Re: CB power

twaldron <dude@hairsproutingbunions,com > wrote:

> XS11E wrote:
>
>> twaldron <dude@hairsproutingbunions,com > wrote:
>>
>>
>>>DougW wrote:
>>>
>>>>>>2. If not, then the black wire should be attached to ground,
>>>>>>but where?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Use the frame bolt where the battery - attaches. There is
>>>>usually enough thread on that to put on another bolt.
>>>
>>>Why bother? Attaching at the NEG(-) battery terminal performs the
>>>same function as running more lead to the block where the battery
>>>grounds.
>>
>>
>> Because Jeeps have had problems in the past with ground loops
>> causing CB noise. It might be worthwhile to consult with a local
>> CB shop it there's one available.
>>
>>
>>
>
> If you are attaching at the battery, how do you get a ground loop?

Between the CB and the antenna.

Re: CB power

XS11E wrote:
> twaldron <dude@hairsproutingbunions,com > wrote:
>
>
>>XS11E wrote:
>>
>>
>>>twaldron <dude@hairsproutingbunions,com > wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>DougW wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>2. If not, then the black wire should be attached to ground,
>>>>>>>but where?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Use the frame bolt where the battery - attaches. There is
>>>>>usually enough thread on that to put on another bolt.
>>>>
>>>>Why bother? Attaching at the NEG(-) battery terminal performs the
>>>>same function as running more lead to the block where the battery
>>>>grounds.
>>>
>>>
>>>Because Jeeps have had problems in the past with ground loops
>>>causing CB noise. It might be worthwhile to consult with a local
>>>CB shop it there's one available.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>If you are attaching at the battery, how do you get a ground loop?
>
>
> Between the CB and the antenna.
>

Then your radio or antenna or both are improperly installed. Run both
leads directly to the battery.

tw

Re: CB power

twaldron <dude@hairsproutingbunions,com > wrote:

> XS11E wrote:
>> twaldron <dude@hairsproutingbunions,com > wrote:
>>
>>
>>>XS11E wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>twaldron <dude@hairsproutingbunions,com > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>DougW wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>2. If not, then the black wire should be attached to ground,
>>>>>>>>but where?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Use the frame bolt where the battery - attaches. There is
>>>>>>usually enough thread on that to put on another bolt.
>>>>>
>>>>>Why bother? Attaching at the NEG(-) battery terminal performs
>>>>>the same function as running more lead to the block where the
>>>>>battery grounds.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Because Jeeps have had problems in the past with ground loops
>>>>causing CB noise. It might be worthwhile to consult with a
>>>>local CB shop it there's one available.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>If you are attaching at the battery, how do you get a ground
>>>loop?
>>
>>
>> Between the CB and the antenna.
>>
>
> Then your radio or antenna or both are improperly installed. Run
> both leads directly to the battery.

Not normally possible, read Bill Spiliotopoulos' post in this thread.

BTW, running both leads directly to the battery is also incorrect,
proper installation is to isolate the CB from anything metal, isolate
the antenna from anything metal, run the antenna ground to the CB and
both power and ground from the CB to the battery. This eliminates
ground loops but requires some engineering as most antennas will ground
through the mount most CB mounts will ground to the body in a typical
installation. In almost all cars and trucks this works fine, in Jeeps
(at least the older Wagoneers and Cherokees) it seems to create noise,
don't know why?

I've never had any problems in any vehicle because I use a portable CB
with a magnetic antenna. The antenna grounds only to the CB and the CB
is powered by and grounded to the ligher socket. It's worked well so
far....


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Re: CB power

XS11E wrote:
>
> I've never had any problems in any vehicle because I use a portable CB
> with a magnetic antenna. The antenna grounds only to the CB and the CB
> is powered by and grounded to the ligher socket. It's worked well so
> far....
>
>
I ran a Radio Shack in my younger days and I have to agree with this. I
always used a fused lighter socket plug so I could pull the unit at
night. Sold a bunch to customers and never had a problem or complaint.
For antennas I used both a center loaded magnet mount and a 108"
stainless steel whip. Of course the whip gave better results, but again
the magnet mount could be pulled at night. One caution with magnet
mounts, make sure they're clean and dust free when you put them on. If
the bottom of the magnet mount or vehicle surface is dirty it could mark
the finish of the vehicle.

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