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258 swap
Hello all-
Currently I am replacing a 151 wutg a 258 w/T5/Dana 300 into a CJ7 and
seem to running into an issue. Once the Transmission was bolted onto
the crossmember bracket and I came up to take a look it was apparent
that the engine was tilted back, so much so the valve cover is resting
against the back of the engine compartment. It seems that the engine
needs to be lowered to the same plane as the Transmission however this
is several inches. I have several thoughts such as 1) This Trans for
some reason doesn't work with the 258 2) There may be another
crossmember bracket that raised the TM/TC (not likely) 3)The chasis
engine mount brackets are bolted in the wrong place/wrong sides of the
chassis or I do not have the correct one2 (bought from reputable 4wd
dealer and said they came from a CJ w/258). This is my first attempt
at rebuilding and am certainly hoping that I made a novice mistake.
Any guidance, pics of 258 chasiss engine mount brackets, would be
extremely appreciated. Thank you!
Hello all-
Currently I am replacing a 151 wutg a 258 w/T5/Dana 300 into a CJ7 and
seem to running into an issue. Once the Transmission was bolted onto
the crossmember bracket and I came up to take a look it was apparent
that the engine was tilted back, so much so the valve cover is resting
against the back of the engine compartment. It seems that the engine
needs to be lowered to the same plane as the Transmission however this
is several inches. I have several thoughts such as 1) This Trans for
some reason doesn't work with the 258 2) There may be another
crossmember bracket that raised the TM/TC (not likely) 3)The chasis
engine mount brackets are bolted in the wrong place/wrong sides of the
chassis or I do not have the correct one2 (bought from reputable 4wd
dealer and said they came from a CJ w/258). This is my first attempt
at rebuilding and am certainly hoping that I made a novice mistake.
Any guidance, pics of 258 chasiss engine mount brackets, would be
extremely appreciated. Thank you!
Re: 258 swap
"CJ7 MrBeans" <cjrini2003@yahoo,com > wrote in message
news:1189872526.339516.50750@o80g2000hse.googlegroups,com ...
> Hello all-
> Currently I am replacing a 151 wutg a 258 w/T5/Dana 300 into a CJ7 and
> seem to running into an issue. Once the Transmission was bolted onto
> the crossmember bracket and I came up to take a look it was apparent
> that the engine was tilted back, so much so the valve cover is resting
> against the back of the engine compartment. It seems that the engine
> needs to be lowered to the same plane as the Transmission however this
> is several inches. I have several thoughts such as 1) This Trans for
> some reason doesn't work with the 258 2) There may be another
> crossmember bracket that raised the TM/TC (not likely) 3)The chasis
> engine mount brackets are bolted in the wrong place/wrong sides of the
> chassis or I do not have the correct one2 (bought from reputable 4wd
> dealer and said they came from a CJ w/258). This is my first attempt
> at rebuilding and am certainly hoping that I made a novice mistake.
> Any guidance, pics of 258 chasiss engine mount brackets, would be
> extremely appreciated. Thank you!
>
Are you re-using the motor mounts from the 4 cylinder?
They will cause that problem.
You need the correct mounts for the 258 (4.2l).
Spdloader
"CJ7 MrBeans" <cjrini2003@yahoo,com > wrote in message
news:1189872526.339516.50750@o80g2000hse.googlegroups,com ...
> Hello all-
> Currently I am replacing a 151 wutg a 258 w/T5/Dana 300 into a CJ7 and
> seem to running into an issue. Once the Transmission was bolted onto
> the crossmember bracket and I came up to take a look it was apparent
> that the engine was tilted back, so much so the valve cover is resting
> against the back of the engine compartment. It seems that the engine
> needs to be lowered to the same plane as the Transmission however this
> is several inches. I have several thoughts such as 1) This Trans for
> some reason doesn't work with the 258 2) There may be another
> crossmember bracket that raised the TM/TC (not likely) 3)The chasis
> engine mount brackets are bolted in the wrong place/wrong sides of the
> chassis or I do not have the correct one2 (bought from reputable 4wd
> dealer and said they came from a CJ w/258). This is my first attempt
> at rebuilding and am certainly hoping that I made a novice mistake.
> Any guidance, pics of 258 chasiss engine mount brackets, would be
> extremely appreciated. Thank you!
>
Are you re-using the motor mounts from the 4 cylinder?
They will cause that problem.
You need the correct mounts for the 258 (4.2l).
Spdloader
Re: 258 swap
On Sep 15, 12:34 pm, "Spdloader" <askfo...@nospam.triad.rr,com > wrote:
> "CJ7 MrBeans" <cjrini2...@yahoo,com > wrote in message
>
> news:1189872526.339516.50750@o80g2000hse.googlegroups,com ...
>
>
>
>
>
> > Hello all-
> > Currently I am replacing a 151 wutg a 258 w/T5/Dana 300 into a CJ7 and
> > seem to running into an issue. Once the Transmission was bolted onto
> > the crossmember bracket and I came up to take a look it was apparent
> > that the engine was tilted back, so much so the valve cover is resting
> > against the back of the engine compartment. It seems that the engine
> > needs to be lowered to the same plane as the Transmission however this
> > is several inches. I have several thoughts such as 1) This Trans for
> > some reason doesn't work with the 258 2) There may be another
> > crossmember bracket that raised the TM/TC (not likely) 3)The chasis
> > engine mount brackets are bolted in the wrong place/wrong sides of the
> > chassis or I do not have the correct one2 (bought from reputable 4wd
> > dealer and said they came from a CJ w/258). This is my first attempt
> > at rebuilding and am certainly hoping that I made a novice mistake.
> > Any guidance, pics of 258 chasiss engine mount brackets, would be
> > extremely appreciated. Thank you!
>
> Are you re-using the motor mounts from the 4 cylinder?
> They will cause that problem.
>
> You need the correct mounts for the 258 (4.2l).
>
> Spdloader- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
Hello-
The 151 motor mounts were removed and I purchased some mounts that
should be for the 258. Some pics included. Thanks for your comment.
http :// www .imagestation,com /album/pictures.html?id=2087492536
On Sep 15, 12:34 pm, "Spdloader" <askfo...@nospam.triad.rr,com > wrote:
> "CJ7 MrBeans" <cjrini2...@yahoo,com > wrote in message
>
> news:1189872526.339516.50750@o80g2000hse.googlegroups,com ...
>
>
>
>
>
> > Hello all-
> > Currently I am replacing a 151 wutg a 258 w/T5/Dana 300 into a CJ7 and
> > seem to running into an issue. Once the Transmission was bolted onto
> > the crossmember bracket and I came up to take a look it was apparent
> > that the engine was tilted back, so much so the valve cover is resting
> > against the back of the engine compartment. It seems that the engine
> > needs to be lowered to the same plane as the Transmission however this
> > is several inches. I have several thoughts such as 1) This Trans for
> > some reason doesn't work with the 258 2) There may be another
> > crossmember bracket that raised the TM/TC (not likely) 3)The chasis
> > engine mount brackets are bolted in the wrong place/wrong sides of the
> > chassis or I do not have the correct one2 (bought from reputable 4wd
> > dealer and said they came from a CJ w/258). This is my first attempt
> > at rebuilding and am certainly hoping that I made a novice mistake.
> > Any guidance, pics of 258 chasiss engine mount brackets, would be
> > extremely appreciated. Thank you!
>
> Are you re-using the motor mounts from the 4 cylinder?
> They will cause that problem.
>
> You need the correct mounts for the 258 (4.2l).
>
> Spdloader- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
Hello-
The 151 motor mounts were removed and I purchased some mounts that
should be for the 258. Some pics included. Thanks for your comment.
http :// www .imagestation,com /album/pictures.html?id=2087492536
Re: 258 swap
"CJ7 MrBeans" <cjrini2003@yahoo,com > wrote in message
news:1189997103.370053.159820@k79g2000hse.googlegroups,com ...
> On Sep 15, 12:34 pm, "Spdloader" <askfo...@nospam.triad.rr,com > wrote:
>> "CJ7 MrBeans" <cjrini2...@yahoo,com > wrote in message
>>
>> news:1189872526.339516.50750@o80g2000hse.googlegroups,com ...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > Hello all-
>> > Currently I am replacing a 151 wutg a 258 w/T5/Dana 300 into a CJ7 and
>> > seem to running into an issue. Once the Transmission was bolted onto
>> > the crossmember bracket and I came up to take a look it was apparent
>> > that the engine was tilted back, so much so the valve cover is resting
>> > against the back of the engine compartment. It seems that the engine
>> > needs to be lowered to the same plane as the Transmission however this
>> > is several inches. I have several thoughts such as 1) This Trans for
>> > some reason doesn't work with the 258 2) There may be another
>> > crossmember bracket that raised the TM/TC (not likely) 3)The chasis
>> > engine mount brackets are bolted in the wrong place/wrong sides of the
>> > chassis or I do not have the correct one2 (bought from reputable 4wd
>> > dealer and said they came from a CJ w/258). This is my first attempt
>> > at rebuilding and am certainly hoping that I made a novice mistake.
>> > Any guidance, pics of 258 chasiss engine mount brackets, would be
>> > extremely appreciated. Thank you!
>>
>> Are you re-using the motor mounts from the 4 cylinder?
>> They will cause that problem.
>>
>> You need the correct mounts for the 258 (4.2l).
>>
>> Spdloader- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
>
> Hello-
> The 151 motor mounts were removed and I purchased some mounts that
> should be for the 258. Some pics included. Thanks for your comment.
>
> http :// www .imagestation,com /album/pictures.html?id=2087492536
>
Those look like the four cylinder mounts to me.
I'll get a closer look at mine tomorrow in the light.
Spdloader
"CJ7 MrBeans" <cjrini2003@yahoo,com > wrote in message
news:1189997103.370053.159820@k79g2000hse.googlegroups,com ...
> On Sep 15, 12:34 pm, "Spdloader" <askfo...@nospam.triad.rr,com > wrote:
>> "CJ7 MrBeans" <cjrini2...@yahoo,com > wrote in message
>>
>> news:1189872526.339516.50750@o80g2000hse.googlegroups,com ...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > Hello all-
>> > Currently I am replacing a 151 wutg a 258 w/T5/Dana 300 into a CJ7 and
>> > seem to running into an issue. Once the Transmission was bolted onto
>> > the crossmember bracket and I came up to take a look it was apparent
>> > that the engine was tilted back, so much so the valve cover is resting
>> > against the back of the engine compartment. It seems that the engine
>> > needs to be lowered to the same plane as the Transmission however this
>> > is several inches. I have several thoughts such as 1) This Trans for
>> > some reason doesn't work with the 258 2) There may be another
>> > crossmember bracket that raised the TM/TC (not likely) 3)The chasis
>> > engine mount brackets are bolted in the wrong place/wrong sides of the
>> > chassis or I do not have the correct one2 (bought from reputable 4wd
>> > dealer and said they came from a CJ w/258). This is my first attempt
>> > at rebuilding and am certainly hoping that I made a novice mistake.
>> > Any guidance, pics of 258 chasiss engine mount brackets, would be
>> > extremely appreciated. Thank you!
>>
>> Are you re-using the motor mounts from the 4 cylinder?
>> They will cause that problem.
>>
>> You need the correct mounts for the 258 (4.2l).
>>
>> Spdloader- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
>
> Hello-
> The 151 motor mounts were removed and I purchased some mounts that
> should be for the 258. Some pics included. Thanks for your comment.
>
> http :// www .imagestation,com /album/pictures.html?id=2087492536
>
Those look like the four cylinder mounts to me.
I'll get a closer look at mine tomorrow in the light.
Spdloader
Re: 258 swap
CJ7 MrBeans wrote:
> Hello all-
> Currently I am replacing a 151 wutg a 258 w/T5/Dana 300 into a CJ7 and
> seem to running into an issue. Once the Transmission was bolted onto
> the crossmember bracket and I came up to take a look it was apparent
> that the engine was tilted back, so much so the valve cover is resting
> against the back of the engine compartment. It seems that the engine
> needs to be lowered to the same plane as the Transmission however this
> is several inches. I have several thoughts such as 1) This Trans for
> some reason doesn't work with the 258 2) There may be another
> crossmember bracket that raised the TM/TC (not likely) 3)The chasis
> engine mount brackets are bolted in the wrong place/wrong sides of the
> chassis or I do not have the correct one2 (bought from reputable 4wd
> dealer and said they came from a CJ w/258). This is my first attempt
> at rebuilding and am certainly hoping that I made a novice mistake.
> Any guidance, pics of 258 chasiss engine mount brackets, would be
> extremely appreciated. Thank you!
>
Stock you only have about 1/2" clearance from the top back of the valve
cover to the firewall. The engine does tilt back.
I have the same setup in my 86.
Could your body tub have shifted and not be bolted on right? This
happens to mine now and then. I have to loosen off all the mount bolts
and shift the tub back square.
When square, the back of the tub should just overhang the rear cross
member slightly I believe. That is where I have mine set which makes my
clutch linkage set up right also.
On mine, the firewall bottom is flush with the front frame mount's front.
Does the drain hole on the D300 line up with the hole in the skid plate?
Here is a photo of my tranny mount:
http :// www .imagestation,com /3118614/4186922377
It goes in the last set of holes in the skid plate.
I could take a photo of the mounts and put it up if you need.
The mounts are drawn in the Haynes manual on page 2C-7.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http :// www .imagestation,com /album/pictures.html?id!15147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
CJ7 MrBeans wrote:
> Hello all-
> Currently I am replacing a 151 wutg a 258 w/T5/Dana 300 into a CJ7 and
> seem to running into an issue. Once the Transmission was bolted onto
> the crossmember bracket and I came up to take a look it was apparent
> that the engine was tilted back, so much so the valve cover is resting
> against the back of the engine compartment. It seems that the engine
> needs to be lowered to the same plane as the Transmission however this
> is several inches. I have several thoughts such as 1) This Trans for
> some reason doesn't work with the 258 2) There may be another
> crossmember bracket that raised the TM/TC (not likely) 3)The chasis
> engine mount brackets are bolted in the wrong place/wrong sides of the
> chassis or I do not have the correct one2 (bought from reputable 4wd
> dealer and said they came from a CJ w/258). This is my first attempt
> at rebuilding and am certainly hoping that I made a novice mistake.
> Any guidance, pics of 258 chasiss engine mount brackets, would be
> extremely appreciated. Thank you!
>
Stock you only have about 1/2" clearance from the top back of the valve
cover to the firewall. The engine does tilt back.
I have the same setup in my 86.
Could your body tub have shifted and not be bolted on right? This
happens to mine now and then. I have to loosen off all the mount bolts
and shift the tub back square.
When square, the back of the tub should just overhang the rear cross
member slightly I believe. That is where I have mine set which makes my
clutch linkage set up right also.
On mine, the firewall bottom is flush with the front frame mount's front.
Does the drain hole on the D300 line up with the hole in the skid plate?
Here is a photo of my tranny mount:
http :// www .imagestation,com /3118614/4186922377
It goes in the last set of holes in the skid plate.
I could take a photo of the mounts and put it up if you need.
The mounts are drawn in the Haynes manual on page 2C-7.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http :// www .imagestation,com /album/pictures.html?id!15147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
Re: 258 swap
On Sep 15, 1:01 pm, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> CJ7 MrBeans wrote:
> > Hello all-
> > Currently I am replacing a 151 wutg a 258 w/T5/Dana 300 into a CJ7 and
> > seem to running into an issue. Once the Transmission was bolted onto
> > the crossmember bracket and I came up to take a look it was apparent
> > that the engine was tilted back, so much so the valve cover is resting
> > against the back of the engine compartment. It seems that the engine
> > needs to be lowered to the same plane as the Transmission however this
> > is several inches. I have several thoughts such as 1) This Trans for
> > some reason doesn't work with the 258 2) There may be another
> > crossmember bracket that raised the TM/TC (not likely) 3)The chasis
> > engine mount brackets are bolted in the wrong place/wrong sides of the
> > chassis or I do not have the correct one2 (bought from reputable 4wd
> > dealer and said they came from a CJ w/258). This is my first attempt
> > at rebuilding and am certainly hoping that I made a novice mistake.
> > Any guidance, pics of 258 chasiss engine mount brackets, would be
> > extremely appreciated. Thank you!
>
> Stock you only have about 1/2" clearance from the top back of the valve
> cover to the firewall. The engine does tilt back.
>
> I have the same setup in my 86.
>
> Could your body tub have shifted and not be bolted on right? This
> happens to mine now and then. I have to loosen off all the mount bolts
> and shift the tub back square.
>
> When square, the back of the tub should just overhang the rear cross
> member slightly I believe. That is where I have mine set which makes my
> clutch linkage set up right also.
>
> On mine, the firewall bottom is flush with the front frame mount's front.
>
> Does the drain hole on the D300 line up with the hole in the skid plate?
>
> Here is a photo of my tranny mount:
> http :// www .imagestation,com /3118614/4186922377
>
> It goes in the last set of holes in the skid plate.
>
> I could take a photo of the mounts and put it up if you need.
>
> The mounts are drawn in the Haynes manual on page 2C-7.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http :// www .imagestation,com /album/pictures.html?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
Hello Mike-
Thanks for your reply. I included an ablum with pictures of the engine
chassis mounts, transmission mount, and a pic of how the engine is
tilted against the firewall. The Dana 300 drainhole does line up in
the skid plate and the Trans mount is in the last set of holes in the
crossmember. I'll need to check the sqareness of the body tub.
In the pics the larger of the two chassis mounts is used on the
passenger side and the smaller mount with the slit is being used on
the driver's side.
http :// www .imagestation,com /album/pictures.html?id=2087492536
If you don't mind taking a picture of your engine chassis mounts and
where they are bolted into the chassis that would be helpful.
Thanks again!
On Sep 15, 1:01 pm, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> CJ7 MrBeans wrote:
> > Hello all-
> > Currently I am replacing a 151 wutg a 258 w/T5/Dana 300 into a CJ7 and
> > seem to running into an issue. Once the Transmission was bolted onto
> > the crossmember bracket and I came up to take a look it was apparent
> > that the engine was tilted back, so much so the valve cover is resting
> > against the back of the engine compartment. It seems that the engine
> > needs to be lowered to the same plane as the Transmission however this
> > is several inches. I have several thoughts such as 1) This Trans for
> > some reason doesn't work with the 258 2) There may be another
> > crossmember bracket that raised the TM/TC (not likely) 3)The chasis
> > engine mount brackets are bolted in the wrong place/wrong sides of the
> > chassis or I do not have the correct one2 (bought from reputable 4wd
> > dealer and said they came from a CJ w/258). This is my first attempt
> > at rebuilding and am certainly hoping that I made a novice mistake.
> > Any guidance, pics of 258 chasiss engine mount brackets, would be
> > extremely appreciated. Thank you!
>
> Stock you only have about 1/2" clearance from the top back of the valve
> cover to the firewall. The engine does tilt back.
>
> I have the same setup in my 86.
>
> Could your body tub have shifted and not be bolted on right? This
> happens to mine now and then. I have to loosen off all the mount bolts
> and shift the tub back square.
>
> When square, the back of the tub should just overhang the rear cross
> member slightly I believe. That is where I have mine set which makes my
> clutch linkage set up right also.
>
> On mine, the firewall bottom is flush with the front frame mount's front.
>
> Does the drain hole on the D300 line up with the hole in the skid plate?
>
> Here is a photo of my tranny mount:
> http :// www .imagestation,com /3118614/4186922377
>
> It goes in the last set of holes in the skid plate.
>
> I could take a photo of the mounts and put it up if you need.
>
> The mounts are drawn in the Haynes manual on page 2C-7.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http :// www .imagestation,com /album/pictures.html?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
Hello Mike-
Thanks for your reply. I included an ablum with pictures of the engine
chassis mounts, transmission mount, and a pic of how the engine is
tilted against the firewall. The Dana 300 drainhole does line up in
the skid plate and the Trans mount is in the last set of holes in the
crossmember. I'll need to check the sqareness of the body tub.
In the pics the larger of the two chassis mounts is used on the
passenger side and the smaller mount with the slit is being used on
the driver's side.
http :// www .imagestation,com /album/pictures.html?id=2087492536
If you don't mind taking a picture of your engine chassis mounts and
where they are bolted into the chassis that would be helpful.
Thanks again!
Re: 258 swap
I have a stripped 86 CJ frame in my garage right now, I can dig out mounts
and set them on and take a pic if you like, don't get much clearer then
that.
"CJ7 MrBeans" <cjrini2003@yahoo,com > wrote in message
news:1189996891.507131.152680@50g2000hsm.googlegroups,com ...
> On Sep 15, 1:01 pm, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>> CJ7 MrBeans wrote:
>> > Hello all-
>> > Currently I am replacing a 151 wutg a 258 w/T5/Dana 300 into a CJ7 and
>> > seem to running into an issue. Once the Transmission was bolted onto
>> > the crossmember bracket and I came up to take a look it was apparent
>> > that the engine was tilted back, so much so the valve cover is resting
>> > against the back of the engine compartment. It seems that the engine
>> > needs to be lowered to the same plane as the Transmission however this
>> > is several inches. I have several thoughts such as 1) This Trans for
>> > some reason doesn't work with the 258 2) There may be another
>> > crossmember bracket that raised the TM/TC (not likely) 3)The chasis
>> > engine mount brackets are bolted in the wrong place/wrong sides of the
>> > chassis or I do not have the correct one2 (bought from reputable 4wd
>> > dealer and said they came from a CJ w/258). This is my first attempt
>> > at rebuilding and am certainly hoping that I made a novice mistake.
>> > Any guidance, pics of 258 chasiss engine mount brackets, would be
>> > extremely appreciated. Thank you!
>>
>> Stock you only have about 1/2" clearance from the top back of the valve
>> cover to the firewall. The engine does tilt back.
>>
>> I have the same setup in my 86.
>>
>> Could your body tub have shifted and not be bolted on right? This
>> happens to mine now and then. I have to loosen off all the mount bolts
>> and shift the tub back square.
>>
>> When square, the back of the tub should just overhang the rear cross
>> member slightly I believe. That is where I have mine set which makes my
>> clutch linkage set up right also.
>>
>> On mine, the firewall bottom is flush with the front frame mount's front.
>>
>> Does the drain hole on the D300 line up with the hole in the skid plate?
>>
>> Here is a photo of my tranny mount:
>> http :// www .imagestation,com /3118614/4186922377
>>
>> It goes in the last set of holes in the skid plate.
>>
>> I could take a photo of the mounts and put it up if you need.
>>
>> The mounts are drawn in the Haynes manual on page 2C-7.
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>> Jan/06 http :// www .imagestation,com /album/pictures.html?id=2115147590
>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)- Hide quoted
>> text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
>
> Hello Mike-
> Thanks for your reply. I included an ablum with pictures of the engine
> chassis mounts, transmission mount, and a pic of how the engine is
> tilted against the firewall. The Dana 300 drainhole does line up in
> the skid plate and the Trans mount is in the last set of holes in the
> crossmember. I'll need to check the sqareness of the body tub.
>
> In the pics the larger of the two chassis mounts is used on the
> passenger side and the smaller mount with the slit is being used on
> the driver's side.
>
> http :// www .imagestation,com /album/pictures.html?id=2087492536
>
> If you don't mind taking a picture of your engine chassis mounts and
> where they are bolted into the chassis that would be helpful.
>
> Thanks again!
>
>
I have a stripped 86 CJ frame in my garage right now, I can dig out mounts
and set them on and take a pic if you like, don't get much clearer then
that.
"CJ7 MrBeans" <cjrini2003@yahoo,com > wrote in message
news:1189996891.507131.152680@50g2000hsm.googlegroups,com ...
> On Sep 15, 1:01 pm, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>> CJ7 MrBeans wrote:
>> > Hello all-
>> > Currently I am replacing a 151 wutg a 258 w/T5/Dana 300 into a CJ7 and
>> > seem to running into an issue. Once the Transmission was bolted onto
>> > the crossmember bracket and I came up to take a look it was apparent
>> > that the engine was tilted back, so much so the valve cover is resting
>> > against the back of the engine compartment. It seems that the engine
>> > needs to be lowered to the same plane as the Transmission however this
>> > is several inches. I have several thoughts such as 1) This Trans for
>> > some reason doesn't work with the 258 2) There may be another
>> > crossmember bracket that raised the TM/TC (not likely) 3)The chasis
>> > engine mount brackets are bolted in the wrong place/wrong sides of the
>> > chassis or I do not have the correct one2 (bought from reputable 4wd
>> > dealer and said they came from a CJ w/258). This is my first attempt
>> > at rebuilding and am certainly hoping that I made a novice mistake.
>> > Any guidance, pics of 258 chasiss engine mount brackets, would be
>> > extremely appreciated. Thank you!
>>
>> Stock you only have about 1/2" clearance from the top back of the valve
>> cover to the firewall. The engine does tilt back.
>>
>> I have the same setup in my 86.
>>
>> Could your body tub have shifted and not be bolted on right? This
>> happens to mine now and then. I have to loosen off all the mount bolts
>> and shift the tub back square.
>>
>> When square, the back of the tub should just overhang the rear cross
>> member slightly I believe. That is where I have mine set which makes my
>> clutch linkage set up right also.
>>
>> On mine, the firewall bottom is flush with the front frame mount's front.
>>
>> Does the drain hole on the D300 line up with the hole in the skid plate?
>>
>> Here is a photo of my tranny mount:
>> http :// www .imagestation,com /3118614/4186922377
>>
>> It goes in the last set of holes in the skid plate.
>>
>> I could take a photo of the mounts and put it up if you need.
>>
>> The mounts are drawn in the Haynes manual on page 2C-7.
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>> Jan/06 http :// www .imagestation,com /album/pictures.html?id=2115147590
>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)- Hide quoted
>> text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
>
> Hello Mike-
> Thanks for your reply. I included an ablum with pictures of the engine
> chassis mounts, transmission mount, and a pic of how the engine is
> tilted against the firewall. The Dana 300 drainhole does line up in
> the skid plate and the Trans mount is in the last set of holes in the
> crossmember. I'll need to check the sqareness of the body tub.
>
> In the pics the larger of the two chassis mounts is used on the
> passenger side and the smaller mount with the slit is being used on
> the driver's side.
>
> http :// www .imagestation,com /album/pictures.html?id=2087492536
>
> If you don't mind taking a picture of your engine chassis mounts and
> where they are bolted into the chassis that would be helpful.
>
> Thanks again!
>
>
Re: 258 swap
On Sep 16, 11:21 pm, "Greg" <gregl...@hotmail,com > wrote:
> I have a stripped 86 CJ frame in my garage right now, I can dig out mounts
> and set them on and take a pic if you like, don't get much clearer then
> that.
>
> "CJ7 MrBeans" <cjrini2...@yahoo,com > wrote in message
>
> news:1189996891.507131.152680@50g2000hsm.googlegroups,com ...
>
>
>
> > On Sep 15, 1:01 pm, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> >> CJ7 MrBeans wrote:
> >> > Hello all-
> >> > Currently I am replacing a 151 wutg a 258 w/T5/Dana 300 into a CJ7 and
> >> > seem to running into an issue. Once the Transmission was bolted onto
> >> > the crossmember bracket and I came up to take a look it was apparent
> >> > that the engine was tilted back, so much so the valve cover is resting
> >> > against the back of the engine compartment. It seems that the engine
> >> > needs to be lowered to the same plane as the Transmission however this
> >> > is several inches. I have several thoughts such as 1) This Trans for
> >> > some reason doesn't work with the 258 2) There may be another
> >> > crossmember bracket that raised the TM/TC (not likely) 3)The chasis
> >> > engine mount brackets are bolted in the wrong place/wrong sides of the
> >> > chassis or I do not have the correct one2 (bought from reputable 4wd
> >> > dealer and said they came from a CJ w/258). This is my first attempt
> >> > at rebuilding and am certainly hoping that I made a novice mistake.
> >> > Any guidance, pics of 258 chasiss engine mount brackets, would be
> >> > extremely appreciated. Thank you!
>
> >> Stock you only have about 1/2" clearance from the top back of the valve
> >> cover to the firewall. The engine does tilt back.
>
> >> I have the same setup in my 86.
>
> >> Could your body tub have shifted and not be bolted on right? This
> >> happens to mine now and then. I have to loosen off all the mount bolts
> >> and shift the tub back square.
>
> >> When square, the back of the tub should just overhang the rear cross
> >> member slightly I believe. That is where I have mine set which makes my
> >> clutch linkage set up right also.
>
> >> On mine, the firewall bottom is flush with the front frame mount's front.
>
> >> Does the drain hole on the D300 line up with the hole in the skid plate?
>
> >> Here is a photo of my tranny mount:
> >> http :// www .imagestation,com /3118614/4186922377
>
> >> It goes in the last set of holes in the skid plate.
>
> >> I could take a photo of the mounts and put it up if you need.
>
> >> The mounts are drawn in the Haynes manual on page 2C-7.
>
> >> Mike
> >> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
> >> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> >> Jan/06 http :// www .imagestation,com /album/pictures.html?id=2115147590
> >> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)- Hide quoted
> >> text -
>
> >> - Show quoted text -
>
> > Hello Mike-
> > Thanks for your reply. I included an ablum with pictures of the engine
> > chassis mounts, transmission mount, and a pic of how the engine is
> > tilted against the firewall. The Dana 300 drainhole does line up in
> > the skid plate and the Trans mount is in the last set of holes in the
> > crossmember. I'll need to check the sqareness of the body tub.
>
> > In the pics the larger of the two chassis mounts is used on the
> > passenger side and the smaller mount with the slit is being used on
> > the driver's side.
>
> > http :// www .imagestation,com /album/pictures.html?id=2087492536
>
> > If you don't mind taking a picture of your engine chassis mounts and
> > where they are bolted into the chassis that would be helpful.
>
> > Thanks again!- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
Hi Greg-
Sure if its not too much trouble. Thanks.
On Sep 16, 11:21 pm, "Greg" <gregl...@hotmail,com > wrote:
> I have a stripped 86 CJ frame in my garage right now, I can dig out mounts
> and set them on and take a pic if you like, don't get much clearer then
> that.
>
> "CJ7 MrBeans" <cjrini2...@yahoo,com > wrote in message
>
> news:1189996891.507131.152680@50g2000hsm.googlegroups,com ...
>
>
>
> > On Sep 15, 1:01 pm, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> >> CJ7 MrBeans wrote:
> >> > Hello all-
> >> > Currently I am replacing a 151 wutg a 258 w/T5/Dana 300 into a CJ7 and
> >> > seem to running into an issue. Once the Transmission was bolted onto
> >> > the crossmember bracket and I came up to take a look it was apparent
> >> > that the engine was tilted back, so much so the valve cover is resting
> >> > against the back of the engine compartment. It seems that the engine
> >> > needs to be lowered to the same plane as the Transmission however this
> >> > is several inches. I have several thoughts such as 1) This Trans for
> >> > some reason doesn't work with the 258 2) There may be another
> >> > crossmember bracket that raised the TM/TC (not likely) 3)The chasis
> >> > engine mount brackets are bolted in the wrong place/wrong sides of the
> >> > chassis or I do not have the correct one2 (bought from reputable 4wd
> >> > dealer and said they came from a CJ w/258). This is my first attempt
> >> > at rebuilding and am certainly hoping that I made a novice mistake.
> >> > Any guidance, pics of 258 chasiss engine mount brackets, would be
> >> > extremely appreciated. Thank you!
>
> >> Stock you only have about 1/2" clearance from the top back of the valve
> >> cover to the firewall. The engine does tilt back.
>
> >> I have the same setup in my 86.
>
> >> Could your body tub have shifted and not be bolted on right? This
> >> happens to mine now and then. I have to loosen off all the mount bolts
> >> and shift the tub back square.
>
> >> When square, the back of the tub should just overhang the rear cross
> >> member slightly I believe. That is where I have mine set which makes my
> >> clutch linkage set up right also.
>
> >> On mine, the firewall bottom is flush with the front frame mount's front.
>
> >> Does the drain hole on the D300 line up with the hole in the skid plate?
>
> >> Here is a photo of my tranny mount:
> >> http :// www .imagestation,com /3118614/4186922377
>
> >> It goes in the last set of holes in the skid plate.
>
> >> I could take a photo of the mounts and put it up if you need.
>
> >> The mounts are drawn in the Haynes manual on page 2C-7.
>
> >> Mike
> >> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
> >> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> >> Jan/06 http :// www .imagestation,com /album/pictures.html?id=2115147590
> >> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)- Hide quoted
> >> text -
>
> >> - Show quoted text -
>
> > Hello Mike-
> > Thanks for your reply. I included an ablum with pictures of the engine
> > chassis mounts, transmission mount, and a pic of how the engine is
> > tilted against the firewall. The Dana 300 drainhole does line up in
> > the skid plate and the Trans mount is in the last set of holes in the
> > crossmember. I'll need to check the sqareness of the body tub.
>
> > In the pics the larger of the two chassis mounts is used on the
> > passenger side and the smaller mount with the slit is being used on
> > the driver's side.
>
> > http :// www .imagestation,com /album/pictures.html?id=2087492536
>
> > If you don't mind taking a picture of your engine chassis mounts and
> > where they are bolted into the chassis that would be helpful.
>
> > Thanks again!- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
Hi Greg-
Sure if its not too much trouble. Thanks.
Re: 258 swap
CJ7 MrBeans wrote:
> On Sep 15, 1:01 pm, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>> CJ7 MrBeans wrote:
>>> Hello all-
>>> Currently I am replacing a 151 wutg a 258 w/T5/Dana 300 into a CJ7 and
>>> seem to running into an issue. Once the Transmission was bolted onto
>>> the crossmember bracket and I came up to take a look it was apparent
>>> that the engine was tilted back, so much so the valve cover is resting
>>> against the back of the engine compartment. It seems that the engine
>>> needs to be lowered to the same plane as the Transmission however this
>>> is several inches. I have several thoughts such as 1) This Trans for
>>> some reason doesn't work with the 258 2) There may be another
>>> crossmember bracket that raised the TM/TC (not likely) 3)The chasis
>>> engine mount brackets are bolted in the wrong place/wrong sides of the
>>> chassis or I do not have the correct one2 (bought from reputable 4wd
>>> dealer and said they came from a CJ w/258). This is my first attempt
>>> at rebuilding and am certainly hoping that I made a novice mistake.
>>> Any guidance, pics of 258 chasiss engine mount brackets, would be
>>> extremely appreciated. Thank you!
>> Stock you only have about 1/2" clearance from the top back of the valve
>> cover to the firewall. The engine does tilt back.
>>
>> I have the same setup in my 86.
>>
>> Could your body tub have shifted and not be bolted on right? This
>> happens to mine now and then. I have to loosen off all the mount bolts
>> and shift the tub back square.
>>
>> When square, the back of the tub should just overhang the rear cross
>> member slightly I believe. That is where I have mine set which makes my
>> clutch linkage set up right also.
>>
>> On mine, the firewall bottom is flush with the front frame mount's front.
>>
>> Does the drain hole on the D300 line up with the hole in the skid plate?
>>
>> Here is a photo of my tranny mount:
>> http :// www .imagestation,com /3118614/4186922377
>>
>> It goes in the last set of holes in the skid plate.
>>
>> I could take a photo of the mounts and put it up if you need.
>>
>> The mounts are drawn in the Haynes manual on page 2C-7.
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>> Jan/06 http :// www .imagestation,com /album/pictures.html?id!15147590
>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
>
> Hello Mike-
> Thanks for your reply. I included an ablum with pictures of the engine
> chassis mounts, transmission mount, and a pic of how the engine is
> tilted against the firewall. The Dana 300 drainhole does line up in
> the skid plate and the Trans mount is in the last set of holes in the
> crossmember. I'll need to check the sqareness of the body tub.
>
> In the pics the larger of the two chassis mounts is used on the
> passenger side and the smaller mount with the slit is being used on
> the driver's side.
>
> http :// www .imagestation,com /album/pictures.html?id 87492536
>
> If you don't mind taking a picture of your engine chassis mounts and
> where they are bolted into the chassis that would be helpful.
>
> Thanks again!
>
>
You have 1" engine lift mounts in there. You would need a 1" body lift
to use those. The valve cover will hit. These are used for adjusting
the driveline with lifts. Or you just have the wrong ones...
The proper mounts only have about 1/2" of 'rubber' sandwiched in there.
Look near the bottom of this webpage for a photo of one of mine I blew up:
http :// www .usenet-replayer,com /groups/alt.binaries.pictures.autos.4x4.html
I will go look at mine tomorrow to verify the metal pieces, but the
mounts are wrong.
Mike
CJ7 MrBeans wrote:
> On Sep 15, 1:01 pm, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>> CJ7 MrBeans wrote:
>>> Hello all-
>>> Currently I am replacing a 151 wutg a 258 w/T5/Dana 300 into a CJ7 and
>>> seem to running into an issue. Once the Transmission was bolted onto
>>> the crossmember bracket and I came up to take a look it was apparent
>>> that the engine was tilted back, so much so the valve cover is resting
>>> against the back of the engine compartment. It seems that the engine
>>> needs to be lowered to the same plane as the Transmission however this
>>> is several inches. I have several thoughts such as 1) This Trans for
>>> some reason doesn't work with the 258 2) There may be another
>>> crossmember bracket that raised the TM/TC (not likely) 3)The chasis
>>> engine mount brackets are bolted in the wrong place/wrong sides of the
>>> chassis or I do not have the correct one2 (bought from reputable 4wd
>>> dealer and said they came from a CJ w/258). This is my first attempt
>>> at rebuilding and am certainly hoping that I made a novice mistake.
>>> Any guidance, pics of 258 chasiss engine mount brackets, would be
>>> extremely appreciated. Thank you!
>> Stock you only have about 1/2" clearance from the top back of the valve
>> cover to the firewall. The engine does tilt back.
>>
>> I have the same setup in my 86.
>>
>> Could your body tub have shifted and not be bolted on right? This
>> happens to mine now and then. I have to loosen off all the mount bolts
>> and shift the tub back square.
>>
>> When square, the back of the tub should just overhang the rear cross
>> member slightly I believe. That is where I have mine set which makes my
>> clutch linkage set up right also.
>>
>> On mine, the firewall bottom is flush with the front frame mount's front.
>>
>> Does the drain hole on the D300 line up with the hole in the skid plate?
>>
>> Here is a photo of my tranny mount:
>> http :// www .imagestation,com /3118614/4186922377
>>
>> It goes in the last set of holes in the skid plate.
>>
>> I could take a photo of the mounts and put it up if you need.
>>
>> The mounts are drawn in the Haynes manual on page 2C-7.
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>> Jan/06 http :// www .imagestation,com /album/pictures.html?id!15147590
>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
>
> Hello Mike-
> Thanks for your reply. I included an ablum with pictures of the engine
> chassis mounts, transmission mount, and a pic of how the engine is
> tilted against the firewall. The Dana 300 drainhole does line up in
> the skid plate and the Trans mount is in the last set of holes in the
> crossmember. I'll need to check the sqareness of the body tub.
>
> In the pics the larger of the two chassis mounts is used on the
> passenger side and the smaller mount with the slit is being used on
> the driver's side.
>
> http :// www .imagestation,com /album/pictures.html?id 87492536
>
> If you don't mind taking a picture of your engine chassis mounts and
> where they are bolted into the chassis that would be helpful.
>
> Thanks again!
>
>
You have 1" engine lift mounts in there. You would need a 1" body lift
to use those. The valve cover will hit. These are used for adjusting
the driveline with lifts. Or you just have the wrong ones...
The proper mounts only have about 1/2" of 'rubber' sandwiched in there.
Look near the bottom of this webpage for a photo of one of mine I blew up:
http :// www .usenet-replayer,com /groups/alt.binaries.pictures.autos.4x4.html
I will go look at mine tomorrow to verify the metal pieces, but the
mounts are wrong.
Mike
Re: 258 swap
CJ7 MrBeans wrote:
> In the pics the larger of the two chassis mounts is used on the
> passenger side and the smaller mount with the slit is being used on
> the driver's side.
>
> http :// www .imagestation,com /album/pictures.html?id 87492536
>
> If you don't mind taking a picture of your engine chassis mounts and
> where they are bolted into the chassis that would be helpful.
>
> Thanks again!
>
>
Your steel mounts look the same and are mounted the same as mine.
The only difference is your really tall front rubber mounts, they are
not correct. The tranny mount is correct.
The proper ones like the one on my photo link have the safety hook loop
facing up on the passenger side and down on the driver's side. This
prevents the torque from instantly tearing them in half.
Here is a CJ7 258 mount.
http :// www .4wd,com /productdetails.aspx?partID065
The OEM ones from the $tealership are the best! I tear the crap out of
and just plain shatter aftermarket ones...
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http :// www .imagestation,com /album/pictures.html?id!15147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
http :// www .4wd,com /productdetails.aspx?partID065
CJ7 MrBeans wrote:
> In the pics the larger of the two chassis mounts is used on the
> passenger side and the smaller mount with the slit is being used on
> the driver's side.
>
> http :// www .imagestation,com /album/pictures.html?id 87492536
>
> If you don't mind taking a picture of your engine chassis mounts and
> where they are bolted into the chassis that would be helpful.
>
> Thanks again!
>
>
Your steel mounts look the same and are mounted the same as mine.
The only difference is your really tall front rubber mounts, they are
not correct. The tranny mount is correct.
The proper ones like the one on my photo link have the safety hook loop
facing up on the passenger side and down on the driver's side. This
prevents the torque from instantly tearing them in half.
Here is a CJ7 258 mount.
http :// www .4wd,com /productdetails.aspx?partID065
The OEM ones from the $tealership are the best! I tear the crap out of
and just plain shatter aftermarket ones...
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http :// www .imagestation,com /album/pictures.html?id!15147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
http :// www .4wd,com /productdetails.aspx?partID065
Re: 258 swap
CJ7 MrBeans wrote:
>
> In the pics the larger of the two chassis mounts is used on the
> passenger side and the smaller mount with the slit is being used on
> the driver's side.
>
> http :// www .imagestation,com /album/pictures.html?id 87492536
>
> If you don't mind taking a picture of your engine chassis mounts and
> where they are bolted into the chassis that would be helpful.
>
> Thanks again!
>
>
Here you go:
http :// www .imagestation,com /3118614/3887863880 For the driver's side.
http :// www .imagestation,com /3118614/3887863876 Passenger side
http :// www .imagestation,com /3118614/3887863873 Valve cover clearance of
about 1/4" or so.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http :// www .imagestation,com /album/pictures.html?id!15147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
CJ7 MrBeans wrote:
>
> In the pics the larger of the two chassis mounts is used on the
> passenger side and the smaller mount with the slit is being used on
> the driver's side.
>
> http :// www .imagestation,com /album/pictures.html?id 87492536
>
> If you don't mind taking a picture of your engine chassis mounts and
> where they are bolted into the chassis that would be helpful.
>
> Thanks again!
>
>
Here you go:
http :// www .imagestation,com /3118614/3887863880 For the driver's side.
http :// www .imagestation,com /3118614/3887863876 Passenger side
http :// www .imagestation,com /3118614/3887863873 Valve cover clearance of
about 1/4" or so.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http :// www .imagestation,com /album/pictures.html?id!15147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
Re: 258 swap
I would bet there's a difference between the Chevy four banger and the
American Motors six's frame mounts, and maybe a difference between the Borg
Warner T4 and T5 rear mount: http :// www .billhughes,com /cj7stablizerMount.jpg
Give http :// www .advanceadapters,com /catalog/003.html a call.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol,com
"CJ7 MrBeans" <cjrini2003@yahoo,com > wrote in message
news:1189872526.339516.50750@o80g2000hse.googlegroups,com ...
> Hello all-
> Currently I am replacing a 151 wutg a 258 w/T5/Dana 300 into a CJ7 and
> seem to running into an issue. Once the Transmission was bolted onto
> the crossmember bracket and I came up to take a look it was apparent
> that the engine was tilted back, so much so the valve cover is resting
> against the back of the engine compartment. It seems that the engine
> needs to be lowered to the same plane as the Transmission however this
> is several inches. I have several thoughts such as 1) This Trans for
> some reason doesn't work with the 258 2) There may be another
> crossmember bracket that raised the TM/TC (not likely) 3)The chasis
> engine mount brackets are bolted in the wrong place/wrong sides of the
> chassis or I do not have the correct one2 (bought from reputable 4wd
> dealer and said they came from a CJ w/258). This is my first attempt
> at rebuilding and am certainly hoping that I made a novice mistake.
> Any guidance, pics of 258 chasiss engine mount brackets, would be
> extremely appreciated. Thank you!
>
--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http :// www .teranews,com
I would bet there's a difference between the Chevy four banger and the
American Motors six's frame mounts, and maybe a difference between the Borg
Warner T4 and T5 rear mount: http :// www .billhughes,com /cj7stablizerMount.jpg
Give http :// www .advanceadapters,com /catalog/003.html a call.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol,com
"CJ7 MrBeans" <cjrini2003@yahoo,com > wrote in message
news:1189872526.339516.50750@o80g2000hse.googlegroups,com ...
> Hello all-
> Currently I am replacing a 151 wutg a 258 w/T5/Dana 300 into a CJ7 and
> seem to running into an issue. Once the Transmission was bolted onto
> the crossmember bracket and I came up to take a look it was apparent
> that the engine was tilted back, so much so the valve cover is resting
> against the back of the engine compartment. It seems that the engine
> needs to be lowered to the same plane as the Transmission however this
> is several inches. I have several thoughts such as 1) This Trans for
> some reason doesn't work with the 258 2) There may be another
> crossmember bracket that raised the TM/TC (not likely) 3)The chasis
> engine mount brackets are bolted in the wrong place/wrong sides of the
> chassis or I do not have the correct one2 (bought from reputable 4wd
> dealer and said they came from a CJ w/258). This is my first attempt
> at rebuilding and am certainly hoping that I made a novice mistake.
> Any guidance, pics of 258 chasiss engine mount brackets, would be
> extremely appreciated. Thank you!
>
--
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Re: Re: 258 swap
On Sat, 15 Sep 2007 10:05:13 -0700, "L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III"
<LWBillHughes@hughes,net > wrote:
> I would bet there's a difference between the Chevy four banger and the
>American Motors six's frame mounts,
This is a good point. I have not looked into this but for a few years
in early 80's Jeep used a GM 151 and it is not same engine as later
AMC 2.5. The AMC 2.5/150 was designed with same bellhousing bolt
pattern as GM 151 but not sure about mount hieght. The 151 has a cross
flow head and AMC 150 has intake and exhaust manifold on same side (it
is based off of a cut down 258 with bore and stroke tweaded too but is
does not share 258's bellhousig bolt pattern)
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On Sat, 15 Sep 2007 10:05:13 -0700, "L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III"
<LWBillHughes@hughes,net > wrote:
> I would bet there's a difference between the Chevy four banger and the
>American Motors six's frame mounts,
This is a good point. I have not looked into this but for a few years
in early 80's Jeep used a GM 151 and it is not same engine as later
AMC 2.5. The AMC 2.5/150 was designed with same bellhousing bolt
pattern as GM 151 but not sure about mount hieght. The 151 has a cross
flow head and AMC 150 has intake and exhaust manifold on same side (it
is based off of a cut down 258 with bore and stroke tweaded too but is
does not share 258's bellhousig bolt pattern)
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TheSnoMan,com
