Winch mounting plate layout - Anyone have one?

Winch mounting plate layout - Anyone have one?

What a happy day.
My Ex husband and his wife came to visit a few weeks ago. They took our
littlest Jeeper home for three weeks and he just brought him home last
night.
While they were here he told me that he had a Warn winch he would give me
for my Jeep. What a guy!

Last night, the winch came with him. It's a
Warn M8000, complete. Only been used twice.
http :// www .warn,com /truck/winches/src/M8000.shtml

I've been looking at mounting plates and find that they are a bit pricey.
Since the hubster is a helluva fabricator I am hoping that someone has a
layout they would be willing to share so that we don't have to reinvent the
wheel (so to speak)

Thanks in advance :¬D

--
Kate
2O|||||||O6 Rubicon
______
/l ,[____],
l-L -OlllllllO-
()_)-()_)--)_)

The shortest distance between two points,
can be a lot more fun in a Jeep!

Re: Winch mounting plate layout - Anyone have one?

Kate,

If you go to a 4x4 shop and look at one, you'll understand. It sits on
top of the frame rails on front of the grille, and bolts down to the frame.
Center the winch on the place, mark the winche's holes, and drill. Bolt and
be happy.

Carl


"Kate" <svtkate@spam.filter> wrote in message
news:IObHi.47225$7e6.44330@bignews4.bellsouth,net ...
> What a happy day.
> My Ex husband and his wife came to visit a few weeks ago. They took our
> littlest Jeeper home for three weeks and he just brought him home last
> night.
> While they were here he told me that he had a Warn winch he would give me
> for my Jeep. What a guy!
>
> Last night, the winch came with him. It's a
> Warn M8000, complete. Only been used twice.
> http :// www .warn,com /truck/winches/src/M8000.shtml
>
> I've been looking at mounting plates and find that they are a bit pricey.
> Since the hubster is a helluva fabricator I am hoping that someone has a
> layout they would be willing to share so that we don't have to reinvent
> the
> wheel (so to speak)
>
> Thanks in advance :¬D
>
> --
> Kate
> 2O|||||||O6 Rubicon
> ______
> /l ,[____],
> l-L -OlllllllO-
> ()_)-()_)--)_)
>
> The shortest distance between two points,
> can be a lot more fun in a Jeep!
>
>

Re: Winch mounting plate layout - Anyone have one?

Thanks Carl.
I'll go in to town tomorrow and see what I can find.
Not much in the area for 4x4 shops, and the ONE that we have carries very
little in stock.

Kate

"Carl S" <carlsaiyed@REMOVE.hotmail,com > wrote in message
news:FN-dnZM3K-UMyXDbnZ2dnUVZ_qOknZ2d@comcast,com ...
Kate,

If you go to a 4x4 shop and look at one, you'll understand. It sits on
top of the frame rails on front of the grille, and bolts down to the frame.
Center the winch on the place, mark the winche's holes, and drill. Bolt and
be happy.

Carl


"Kate" <svtkate@spam.filter> wrote in message
news:IObHi.47225$7e6.44330@bignews4.bellsouth,net ...
> What a happy day.
> My Ex husband and his wife came to visit a few weeks ago. They took our
> littlest Jeeper home for three weeks and he just brought him home last
> night.
> While they were here he told me that he had a Warn winch he would give me
> for my Jeep. What a guy!
>
> Last night, the winch came with him. It's a
> Warn M8000, complete. Only been used twice.
> http :// www .warn,com /truck/winches/src/M8000.shtml
>
> I've been looking at mounting plates and find that they are a bit pricey.
> Since the hubster is a helluva fabricator I am hoping that someone has a
> layout they would be willing to share so that we don't have to reinvent
> the
> wheel (so to speak)
>
> Thanks in advance :¬D
>
> --
> Kate
> 2O|||||||O6 Rubicon
> ______
> /l ,[____],
> l-L -OlllllllO-
> ()_)-()_)--)_)
>
> The shortest distance between two points,
> can be a lot more fun in a Jeep!
>
>

Re: Winch mounting plate layout - Anyone have one?

I will try to find you a picture. The one I bought was 3/16" steel from
warn.


"Kate" <svtkate@spam.filter> wrote in message
news:GXcHi.60902$mp6.50721@bignews9.bellsouth,net ...
> Thanks Carl.
> I'll go in to town tomorrow and see what I can find.
> Not much in the area for 4x4 shops, and the ONE that we have carries very
> little in stock.
>
> Kate
>
> "Carl S" <carlsaiyed@REMOVE.hotmail,com > wrote in message
> news:FN-dnZM3K-UMyXDbnZ2dnUVZ_qOknZ2d@comcast,com ...
> Kate,
>
> If you go to a 4x4 shop and look at one, you'll understand. It sits on
> top of the frame rails on front of the grille, and bolts down to the
> frame.
> Center the winch on the place, mark the winche's holes, and drill. Bolt
> and
> be happy.
>
> Carl
>
>
> "Kate" <svtkate@spam.filter> wrote in message
> news:IObHi.47225$7e6.44330@bignews4.bellsouth,net ...
>> What a happy day.
>> My Ex husband and his wife came to visit a few weeks ago. They took our
>> littlest Jeeper home for three weeks and he just brought him home last
>> night.
>> While they were here he told me that he had a Warn winch he would give me
>> for my Jeep. What a guy!
>>
>> Last night, the winch came with him. It's a
>> Warn M8000, complete. Only been used twice.
>> http :// www .warn,com /truck/winches/src/M8000.shtml
>>
>> I've been looking at mounting plates and find that they are a bit pricey.
>> Since the hubster is a helluva fabricator I am hoping that someone has a
>> layout they would be willing to share so that we don't have to reinvent
>> the
>> wheel (so to speak)
>>
>> Thanks in advance :¬D
>>
>> --
>> Kate
>> 2O|||||||O6 Rubicon
>> ______
>> /l ,[____],
>> l-L -OlllllllO-
>> ()_)-()_)--)_)
>>
>> The shortest distance between two points,
>> can be a lot more fun in a Jeep!
>>
>>
>
>
>

Re: Winch mounting plate layout - Anyone have one?

Thanks Greg, every little bit will help!

"Greg" <greglc84@hotmail,com > wrote in message
news:8SdHi.183690$fJ5.26636@pd7urf1no...
I have a Warn 8274 mounted on what was a warn F150 mount that I just cut
to fit my CJ, I could snap a pic and send it to you if you like.
Greg

"Kate" <svtkate@spam.filter> wrote in message
news:IObHi.47225$7e6.44330@bignews4.bellsouth,net ...
> What a happy day.
> My Ex husband and his wife came to visit a few weeks ago. They took our
> littlest Jeeper home for three weeks and he just brought him home last
> night.
> While they were here he told me that he had a Warn winch he would give me
> for my Jeep. What a guy!
>
> Last night, the winch came with him. It's a
> Warn M8000, complete. Only been used twice.
> http :// www .warn,com /truck/winches/src/M8000.shtml
>
> I've been looking at mounting plates and find that they are a bit pricey.
> Since the hubster is a helluva fabricator I am hoping that someone has a
> layout they would be willing to share so that we don't have to reinvent
> the
> wheel (so to speak)
>
> Thanks in advance :¬D
>
> --
> Kate
> 2O|||||||O6 Rubicon
> ______
> /l ,[____],
> l-L -OlllllllO-
> ()_)-()_)--)_)
>
> The shortest distance between two points,
> can be a lot more fun in a Jeep!
>
>

Re: Winch mounting plate layout - Anyone have one?

Kate wrote:
> What a happy day.
> My Ex husband and his wife came to visit a few weeks ago. They took our
> littlest Jeeper home for three weeks and he just brought him home last
> night.
> While they were here he told me that he had a Warn winch he would give me
> for my Jeep. What a guy!
>
> Last night, the winch came with him. It's a
> Warn M8000, complete. Only been used twice.
> http :// www .warn,com /truck/winches/src/M8000.shtml
>
> I've been looking at mounting plates and find that they are a bit pricey.
> Since the hubster is a helluva fabricator I am hoping that someone has a
> layout they would be willing to share so that we don't have to reinvent the
> wheel (so to speak)
>
> Thanks in advance :¬D
>

One thing on mine is the mounting bolts fit into a stock frame threaded
hole and one passed through the frame with a tube and washer setup so it
couldn't crush it.

Mine is a CJ7 though so the design wouldn't likely be the same, but
then... I could also snap off a photo and email it if it would help.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http :// www .imagestation,com /album/pictures.html?id!15147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

Update

Thanks to everyone for the words of advice.

Hubby looked at it and tells me he is planning to just build me a front
bumper (much like the ARB) that has the winch mount incorporated into it.

So, what would have been a half day project, likely will not see the light
of day until next spring the way he procrastinates- damnit.

Heh.... I'll get him.... I'll strap it on with Zip ties just to goad him
into it.

Thanks again eveyone, as soon as he gets it built, I'll post some pics. just
don't hold your breath.

Kate

Re: Update

On Sep 17, 5:29 pm, "Kate" <svtk...@spam.filter> wrote:
> Thanks to everyone for the words of advice.
>
> Hubby looked at it and tells me he is planning to just build me a front
> bumper (much like the ARB) that has the winch mount incorporated into it.
>
> So, what would have been a half day project, likely will not see the light
> of day until next spring the way he procrastinates- damnit.
>
> Heh.... I'll get him.... I'll strap it on with Zip ties just to goad him
> into it.
>
> Thanks again eveyone, as soon as he gets it built, I'll post some pics. just
> don't hold your breath.
>
> Kate


Just food for thought. My dad welds alot for his pleasure. He has
built me a steering box protector, both front and rear of his bumpers
on his grand wagoneer, his rear rack, and my gas can holder on the
rear of my garvin bumper.

Welding is alot of fun etc, but I will say this. With the cost of
steel today, you might actually be better off buying one from a
vendor, just in case it turns out poorly. The cost of doing it twice
will start to hurt and push it more over the cost of a mass produced
bumper.

BTW, if you still want more detailed pics of my warn mount (with tape
meaure in place), let me know. Glad I checked, I was just about to
take pics. :)

Take care,

Re: Update

Yes, absolutely, I would be happy to have them.

I suppose I should add here that hubs is a retired heavy equipment mechanic
and has been a professional welder all of his life.
I agree with you on the price of steel. My thoughts are that since I wanted
an ARB bumper that it doesn't make sense to buy/make one and then have to
replace it in the near future with the bumper. I'm just SO DANG IMPATIENT!
You know how women are with their new toys - heh.

Hubs is also going to build my rails and the rest of my under body armor.
The $$ is something of a hold up. I've been thinking that I should go back
to work just so I can buy Jeep parts.

I'll email you so you have my address to send the photos, and thanks again!

Kate

"ULB" <ultralightbackpacker@yahoo,com > wrote in message
news:1190078879.460026.88430@k79g2000hse.googlegroups,com ...
On Sep 17, 5:29 pm, "Kate" <svtk...@spam.filter> wrote:
> Thanks to everyone for the words of advice.
>
> Hubby looked at it and tells me he is planning to just build me a front
> bumper (much like the ARB) that has the winch mount incorporated into it.
>
> So, what would have been a half day project, likely will not see the light
> of day until next spring the way he procrastinates- damnit.
>
> Heh.... I'll get him.... I'll strap it on with Zip ties just to goad him
> into it.
>
> Thanks again eveyone, as soon as he gets it built, I'll post some pics.
> just
> don't hold your breath.
>
> Kate


Just food for thought. My dad welds alot for his pleasure. He has
built me a steering box protector, both front and rear of his bumpers
on his grand wagoneer, his rear rack, and my gas can holder on the
rear of my garvin bumper.

Welding is alot of fun etc, but I will say this. With the cost of
steel today, you might actually be better off buying one from a
vendor, just in case it turns out poorly. The cost of doing it twice
will start to hurt and push it more over the cost of a mass produced
bumper.

BTW, if you still want more detailed pics of my warn mount (with tape
meaure in place), let me know. Glad I checked, I was just about to
take pics. :)

Take care,

Re: Update

I built an integrated 2"x5" rectangular tube bumper and winch mount that
I have been quite happy with. The tube is even tested for pressure in
case I need a small air tank. Back bumper is the same except it has the
2" receiver hitch build in (not hung below).

I could send some construction pics but both of us have munged up
addresses.

Kate wrote:
> Thanks to everyone for the words of advice.
>
> Hubby looked at it and tells me he is planning to just build me a front
> bumper (much like the ARB) that has the winch mount incorporated into it.
>
> So, what would have been a half day project, likely will not see the light
> of day until next spring the way he procrastinates- damnit.
>
> Heh.... I'll get him.... I'll strap it on with Zip ties just to goad him
> into it.
>
> Thanks again eveyone, as soon as he gets it built, I'll post some pics. just
> don't hold your breath.
>
> Kate
>
>
>
>

Re: Update

On Sep 18, 3:29 pm, RoyJ <spaml...@microsoft,net > wrote:
> I built an integrated 2"x5" rectangular tube bumper and winch mount that
> I have been quite happy with. The tube is even tested for pressure in
> case I need a small air tank. Back bumper is the same except it has the
> 2" receiver hitch build in (not hung below).
>
> I could send some construction pics but both of us have munged up
> addresses.
>
>
>
> Kate wrote:
> > Thanks to everyone for the words of advice.
>
> > Hubby looked at it and tells me he is planning to just build me a front
> > bumper (much like the ARB) that has the winch mount incorporated into it.
>
> > So, what would have been a half day project, likely will not see the light
> > of day until next spring the way he procrastinates- damnit.
>
> > Heh.... I'll get him.... I'll strap it on with Zip ties just to goad him
> > into it.
>
> > Thanks again eveyone, as soon as he gets it built, I'll post some pics. just
> > don't hold your breath.
>
> > Kate- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Out of curiosity, what is the psi the bumper can handle and can it
inflate 4 tires at 10 PSI to say 25lb?

Re: Update

My bumpers are 57" long, tapered ends, 2x5" rectangular tube with 1/8"
wall. capacity is just under 2 gallons. I wouldn't have any particular
problem with filling them with air from a standard shop air supply
(around 150 psi) I never hooked up the fittings because the air volume
is so small compared to my 10.50x31x 15 tires that it wasn't worth the
effort. Sounded like a good idea when I built them though.

ULB wrote:
> On Sep 18, 3:29 pm, RoyJ <spaml...@microsoft,net > wrote:
>> I built an integrated 2"x5" rectangular tube bumper and winch mount that
>> I have been quite happy with. The tube is even tested for pressure in
>> case I need a small air tank. Back bumper is the same except it has the
>> 2" receiver hitch build in (not hung below).
>>
>> I could send some construction pics but both of us have munged up
>> addresses.
>>
>>
>>
>> Kate wrote:
>>> Thanks to everyone for the words of advice.
>>> Hubby looked at it and tells me he is planning to just build me a front
>>> bumper (much like the ARB) that has the winch mount incorporated into it.
>>> So, what would have been a half day project, likely will not see the light
>>> of day until next spring the way he procrastinates- damnit.
>>> Heh.... I'll get him.... I'll strap it on with Zip ties just to goad him
>>> into it.
>>> Thanks again eveyone, as soon as he gets it built, I'll post some pics. just
>>> don't hold your breath.
>>> Kate- Hide quoted text -
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> Out of curiosity, what is the psi the bumper can handle and can it
> inflate 4 tires at 10 PSI to say 25lb?
>

Re: Update

York Compressor for On-Board Air:
http :// www .jedi,com /obiwan/jeep/yorkair.html CO2 / air equivalents:
http :// www .rockcrawler,com /techreports/inflation_zone_cfh20/index.asp I use
my spare tire and equalizing hose to bring my sand pressures up for road use
emergencies
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol,com http :// www .billhughes,com /

"ULB" <ultralightbackpacker@yahoo,com > wrote in message
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>
> Out of curiosity, what is the psi the bumper can handle and can it
> inflate 4 tires at 10 PSI to say 25lb?
>



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Re: Update

On Wed, 19 Sep 2007 14:45:34 -0700, "L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III"
<LWBillHughes@hughes,net > wrote:

> York Compressor for On-Board Air:
> http :// www .jedi,com /obiwan/jeep/yorkair.html CO2 / air equivalents:
> http :// www .rockcrawler,com /techreports/inflation_zone_cfh20/index.asp I use
>my spare tire and equalizing hose to bring my sand pressures up for road use
>emergencies
> Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol,com http :// www .billhughes,com /

PSYCHOPATHIC PERSONALITY

AN ENDEMIC SOCIAL DISEASE, A MASK OF SANITY

This introduction to "alien reaction machines" in human form describes
individuals with Anti-Social Personality Disorder (APD), Sociopaths,
and Psychopaths.

(In referring to these entities below, I use "that" instead of "who"
to reinforce the distinction between machine-like reactions and normal
human behavior.)

There is considerable overlap of symptoms as medical researchers have
refined the classifications. One of the links below provides detailed
distinctions among these definitions. It also includes an extensive
bibliography. In this essay, next, however, the older, generic term
"psychopath" is used.

A psychopath is a person who appears normal on the surface, until
he/she performs some outrageous criminal act. At that point it has
been customary to label the behavior as temporary "insanity", but that
is a legal term, not a medical one. The prison psychiatric hospital
environment greatly reduces the options for the new patient to make
the kind of independent decisions that caused the original trouble in
open society. In this controlled environment he/she appears normal,
shows no overt signs of psychosis, passes all probing tests with
flying colors, and is discharged as "cured". On the street again, more
crimes are committed, and the cycle repeats. Thus, these individuals
fall through the cracks between law and medicine.

Most people, including judges and juries, are still unable to make the
distinction that not all prison inmates are psychopaths and not all
antisocial individuals are convicted criminals. The links below can be
confusing unless one is aware that the label "psychopathic
personality" was the original descriptive term for today's aggressive
"antisocial personality". The new euphemism is an obfuscation of an
unpleasant truth about people we are forced to deal with on a daily
basis. It is difficult for all of us, especially when associating with
disruptive school children, whose unearned "self esteem" must be
protected at all costs. In the literature one can expect to see both
the new and the old terms, without much distinction between them.

Western industrial civilization has developed a complex set of rules
of behavior for its citizens. These rules have evolved from the need
for cooperative organization in order to produce the goods and
services actually needed by society for minimum survival as a group,
and also to produce the intangible benefits that make that survival
tolerable for the individual. It makes most sense to reserve the
greatest rewards to those individuals who produce the most goods and
services of the highest quality. Most people understand they need
specialized training for any role above some minimum level, and they
must compete for that training, and later compete on the job itself.
They understand that the need for group survival dictates the rules of
the game, and they must not disrupt the group process by
uncooperative, dishonest, unethical, or violent behavior, or flagrant
violation of the rules.

Psychopaths believe they are "entitled" to the lifestyle benefits of
Western Civilization that most people only hope for as a potential
reward for outstanding job performance, organizational loyalty, and
smooth cooperation with other members of a team. Psychopaths can't or
won't work at the high performance level that might logically provide
upscale benefits. At a lower level where they might be more qualified,
they feel that any menial, boring, dirty, or disgusting WORK is
"beneath" them. Thus, whether at a high level or low level, any
meaningful, honest "work" is a dirty word to a psychopath.

With extraordinary assistance from motivated parents, some more
intelligent, but still antisocial people can and do gravitate to
higher-paid management, politics, or the professions, where power and
prestige can be significant ego enhancers. However, they are always
"close to the edge" emotionally, and are likely to abuse sex, drugs,
and alcohol. Also, they may tend to "seek out" excuses to deliberately
over-indulge, in order to remove temporarily the stifling "mask of
sanity" that never quite fits. Then, when "under the influence" they
are more likely to exhibit aggressive, violent, and/or bizarre
behavior in inappropriate public places. This odd behavior is the key
classic sign of acute dysfunction. Some reference books provide
fascinating case histories describing typical incidents.

When one realizes that the antisocial syndrome is pervasive in today's
society, what protection is available to the average adult citizen?
How can one know the alien body snatcher before any actual overt
criminal act? There are two simple test tools available to any
perceptive, educated adult: The tools are contrived casual
conversation and unobtrusive observation. With these tools one can
make a simple first screening test to possibly rule out psychopathic
personality in public officials or others:

The psychopath is a dangerously clever "alien reaction machine" that
has practiced giving all the correct answers. However, much of that
verbal practice will have taken place in institutions or in
dysfunctional families in lower-class neighborhoods. When those same
answers are given in upscale surroundings, they come out as contrived
falsehoods.

Another clue is that the alien machine will not take responsibility,
but will tend to "blame others" for misfortunes with drugs, sexual
partners, bosses, co- workers, authorities, or whatever. Also, the
full-blown psychopath is NEVER altruistic or ethical (except by
accident), but may be shrewd enough to pretend altruism as sham
behavior (to attract votes). By accepting a psychopath's statements at
face value, without cross- checking public records or other sources, a
careless or inattentive interviewer can fail to pick up on the
frequent lies. For example, to trip up corrupt politicians or
self-described "experts", sometimes it is only necessary to compare
two different answers to the same or similar questions repeated on two
or more different occasions, without involving external sources at
all. Any pattern of lies will stand out as outside the norm of ethical
conduct. By itself, this discrepancy is insufficient to classify the
individual as antisocial, but it is an indication that other tests
should be made.
* * * * *

Re: Winch mounting plate layout - Anyone have one?

Way cool. congrats!
-jenn



On Sun, 16 Sep 2007 10:17:53 -0500, "Kate" <svtkate@spam.filter> wrote:

>>What a happy day.
>>My Ex husband and his wife came to visit a few weeks ago. They took our
>>littlest Jeeper home for three weeks and he just brought him home last
>>night.
>>While they were here he told me that he had a Warn winch he would give me
>>for my Jeep. What a guy!
>>
>>Last night, the winch came with him. It's a
>>Warn M8000, complete. Only been used twice.
>> http :// www .warn,com /truck/winches/src/M8000.shtml
>>
>>I've been looking at mounting plates and find that they are a bit pricey.
>>Since the hubster is a helluva fabricator I am hoping that someone has a
>>layout they would be willing to share so that we don't have to reinvent the
>>wheel (so to speak)
>>
>>Thanks in advance :¬D