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Tasers
Remember awhile back we had a fairly lively discussion about the use / over
use of tasers by police? Well, this month, Patrick Bedard discusses this
issue in his Car and Driver editorial. He even discusses the Austin Texas
video and the one (I believe in Colorado?) where the guy tries to get the
cop to go back and show him the speed limit sign. Both of these IIRC were
discussed here. The article is worth reading, this subject is coming to a
head I think, I hope!
Personally I don't think that the tasers are the problem, as with most
weapons, it's the operator who is deciding when to use the weapon who is the
potential problem.
Chris
99BBB
Remember awhile back we had a fairly lively discussion about the use / over
use of tasers by police? Well, this month, Patrick Bedard discusses this
issue in his Car and Driver editorial. He even discusses the Austin Texas
video and the one (I believe in Colorado?) where the guy tries to get the
cop to go back and show him the speed limit sign. Both of these IIRC were
discussed here. The article is worth reading, this subject is coming to a
head I think, I hope!
Personally I don't think that the tasers are the problem, as with most
weapons, it's the operator who is deciding when to use the weapon who is the
potential problem.
Chris
99BBB
Re: Tasers
Chris D'Agnolo wrote:
> Remember awhile back we had a fairly lively discussion about the use / over
> use of tasers by police? Well, this month, Patrick Bedard discusses this
> issue in his Car and Driver editorial. He even discusses the Austin Texas
> video and the one (I believe in Colorado?) where the guy tries to get the
> cop to go back and show him the speed limit sign. Both of these IIRC were
> discussed here. The article is worth reading, this subject is coming to a
> head I think, I hope!
Interesting article. If he had referred to Officer O'Connor as a thug of
the lowest sort who belongs in jail, then I would have to subscribe to
the magazine, or at least make a donation.
> Personally I don't think that the tasers are the problem, as with most
> weapons, it's the operator who is deciding when to use the weapon who is the
> potential problem.
>
> Chris
> 99BBB
True, but if you or I have a taser on us in public, we are going to get
arrested for it.
An Austin cop can torture a person and completely take away their safety
and dignity and the result is that he gets put back out in public to
continue his actions.
10 years in prison with the people that he helped send there, no early
release.
That is the absolute minimum sentence that I would have given O'Connor
for his criminal actions that Thanksgiving day.
Now I just have to hope he doesn't pull me over, it would be difficult
not to call him "Officer Taser", which of course would likely result in
my getting tortured by him as well with his electric toy.
Pat
Chris D'Agnolo wrote:
> Remember awhile back we had a fairly lively discussion about the use / over
> use of tasers by police? Well, this month, Patrick Bedard discusses this
> issue in his Car and Driver editorial. He even discusses the Austin Texas
> video and the one (I believe in Colorado?) where the guy tries to get the
> cop to go back and show him the speed limit sign. Both of these IIRC were
> discussed here. The article is worth reading, this subject is coming to a
> head I think, I hope!
Interesting article. If he had referred to Officer O'Connor as a thug of
the lowest sort who belongs in jail, then I would have to subscribe to
the magazine, or at least make a donation.
> Personally I don't think that the tasers are the problem, as with most
> weapons, it's the operator who is deciding when to use the weapon who is the
> potential problem.
>
> Chris
> 99BBB
True, but if you or I have a taser on us in public, we are going to get
arrested for it.
An Austin cop can torture a person and completely take away their safety
and dignity and the result is that he gets put back out in public to
continue his actions.
10 years in prison with the people that he helped send there, no early
release.
That is the absolute minimum sentence that I would have given O'Connor
for his criminal actions that Thanksgiving day.
Now I just have to hope he doesn't pull me over, it would be difficult
not to call him "Officer Taser", which of course would likely result in
my getting tortured by him as well with his electric toy.
Pat
Re: Tasers
Hey Pat! You gonna turn out the lights? I don't think anybody is here any
more ;-)
Chris
99BBB
Hey Pat! You gonna turn out the lights? I don't think anybody is here any
more ;-)
Chris
99BBB
Re: Tasers
are you saying that there is something wrong with talking to oneself?
but no worries, our fair weather friends are all bound to show up in the
next few weeks.
"Chris D'Agnolo" <cdagnolo@alltel,net > wrote in message
news:79177$481686af$471ebcbc$830@ALLTEL,net ...
>
> Hey Pat! You gonna turn out the lights? I don't think anybody is here any
> more ;-)
>
> Chris
> 99BBB
>
are you saying that there is something wrong with talking to oneself?
but no worries, our fair weather friends are all bound to show up in the
next few weeks.
"Chris D'Agnolo" <cdagnolo@alltel,net > wrote in message
news:79177$481686af$471ebcbc$830@ALLTEL,net ...
>
> Hey Pat! You gonna turn out the lights? I don't think anybody is here any
> more ;-)
>
> Chris
> 99BBB
>
Re: Tasers
In article <39qdnd9PK-VfF4rVnZ2dnUVZ_u-dnZ2d@earthlink,com >,
"Christopher Muto" <muto@worldnet.att,net > wrote:
> but no worries, our fair weather friends are all bound to show up in the
> next few weeks.
You mean the ones with HLA clatter, lack of power below 4000 rpm, a hard
ride, flat-spotted tires, and mice nesting in their heaters? I can
barely wait... :-)
--
Lanny Chambers
St. Louis, MO
'94C
In article <39qdnd9PK-VfF4rVnZ2dnUVZ_u-dnZ2d@earthlink,com >,
"Christopher Muto" <muto@worldnet.att,net > wrote:
> but no worries, our fair weather friends are all bound to show up in the
> next few weeks.
You mean the ones with HLA clatter, lack of power below 4000 rpm, a hard
ride, flat-spotted tires, and mice nesting in their heaters? I can
barely wait... :-)
--
Lanny Chambers
St. Louis, MO
'94C
Re: Tasers
Lanny Chambers wrote:
> You mean the ones with HLA clatter, lack of power below 4000 rpm, a hard
> ride, flat-spotted tires, and mice nesting in their heaters? I can
> barely wait... :-)
We are having strange weather.
A low of 42 yesterday, new record. Afternoons are just reaching 80, I
wish that it would stay this way all year long.
Pat
Lanny Chambers wrote:
> You mean the ones with HLA clatter, lack of power below 4000 rpm, a hard
> ride, flat-spotted tires, and mice nesting in their heaters? I can
> barely wait... :-)
We are having strange weather.
A low of 42 yesterday, new record. Afternoons are just reaching 80, I
wish that it would stay this way all year long.
Pat
Re: Tasers
In article <4817bd78$0$4085$4c368faf@roadrunner,com >,
pws <pwshelton@austin.rr,com > wrote:
> We are having strange weather.
> A low of 42 yesterday, new record. Afternoons are just reaching 80, I
> wish that it would stay this way all year long.
We had frost this morning. I wish it would warm up and stay that way for
more than two days.
--
Lanny Chambers
St. Louis, MO
'94C
In article <4817bd78$0$4085$4c368faf@roadrunner,com >,
pws <pwshelton@austin.rr,com > wrote:
> We are having strange weather.
> A low of 42 yesterday, new record. Afternoons are just reaching 80, I
> wish that it would stay this way all year long.
We had frost this morning. I wish it would warm up and stay that way for
more than two days.
--
Lanny Chambers
St. Louis, MO
'94C
Re: Tasers
> > We are having strange weather.
> > A low of 42 yesterday, new record. Afternoons are just reaching 80, I
> > wish that it would stay this way all year long.
>
> We had frost this morning. I wish it would warm up and stay that way for
> more than two days.
Just a bit north of me (but south of Duluth) still has fresh snow on the
lake ice. Hard to believe I've been riding my motorcycle for almost 2 months
(between blizzards) and even rode from St Louis MO to Minneapolis MN a few
weeks back.
miker
> > We are having strange weather.
> > A low of 42 yesterday, new record. Afternoons are just reaching 80, I
> > wish that it would stay this way all year long.
>
> We had frost this morning. I wish it would warm up and stay that way for
> more than two days.
Just a bit north of me (but south of Duluth) still has fresh snow on the
lake ice. Hard to believe I've been riding my motorcycle for almost 2 months
(between blizzards) and even rode from St Louis MO to Minneapolis MN a few
weeks back.
miker
Re: Tasers
miker wrote:
> Just a bit north of me (but south of Duluth) still has fresh snow on the
> lake ice. Hard to believe I've been riding my motorcycle for almost 2 months
> (between blizzards) and even rode from St Louis MO to Minneapolis MN a few
> weeks back.
>
> miker
The last time that I saw what could be called sort of real snow was in
2004. I even made this massive snowman.
Warner disclaimer: Picture of Pat's ugly mug is contained in the photo,
open at your own risk, you have been warned. ;-)
http :// imgs.inkfrog,com /pix/pat/snowman.jpeg
Pat
miker wrote:
> Just a bit north of me (but south of Duluth) still has fresh snow on the
> lake ice. Hard to believe I've been riding my motorcycle for almost 2 months
> (between blizzards) and even rode from St Louis MO to Minneapolis MN a few
> weeks back.
>
> miker
The last time that I saw what could be called sort of real snow was in
2004. I even made this massive snowman.
Warner disclaimer: Picture of Pat's ugly mug is contained in the photo,
open at your own risk, you have been warned. ;-)
http :// imgs.inkfrog,com /pix/pat/snowman.jpeg
Pat
Re: Tasers
pws wrote:
>
> Warner disclaimer: Picture of Pat's ugly mug
> is contained in the photo, open at your own
> risk, you have been warned. ;-)
Man! Whoa! You sure are one handsome dude!
Say, who's that guy with the beard kneeling behind you?
yrs jp
pws wrote:
>
> Warner disclaimer: Picture of Pat's ugly mug
> is contained in the photo, open at your own
> risk, you have been warned. ;-)
Man! Whoa! You sure are one handsome dude!
Say, who's that guy with the beard kneeling behind you?
yrs jp
Re: Tasers
Lanny Chambers wrote:
>Christopher Muto wrote:
>
>> but no worries, our fair weather friends are all bound to show up
>> in the
>> next few weeks.
>
> You mean the ones with HLA clatter, lack of power below 4000 rpm, a
> hard
> ride, flat-spotted tires, and mice nesting in their heaters? I can
> barely wait... :-)
And the ones with bad ignition switchs and CEL codes and....
Sorry for the quiet, Pat. I've been extemely ill since early Saturday
with a recurring intestinal whatever that nobody quite knows what it
is.
And it was down to 32F here this morning.
Iva & Vixen
2004 Classic Red
No more winkin' Miata
Lanny Chambers wrote:
>Christopher Muto wrote:
>
>> but no worries, our fair weather friends are all bound to show up
>> in the
>> next few weeks.
>
> You mean the ones with HLA clatter, lack of power below 4000 rpm, a
> hard
> ride, flat-spotted tires, and mice nesting in their heaters? I can
> barely wait... :-)
And the ones with bad ignition switchs and CEL codes and....
Sorry for the quiet, Pat. I've been extemely ill since early Saturday
with a recurring intestinal whatever that nobody quite knows what it
is.
And it was down to 32F here this morning.
Iva & Vixen
2004 Classic Red
No more winkin' Miata
Re: Tasers
Chris D'Agnolo wrote:
> Hey Pat! You gonna turn out the lights? I don't think anybody is here any
> more ;-)
>
> Chris
> 99BBB
I started to turn them off, but I heard a bunch of lurkers scurrying
around like rats, so I left them on for them. :-)
Pat
Chris D'Agnolo wrote:
> Hey Pat! You gonna turn out the lights? I don't think anybody is here any
> more ;-)
>
> Chris
> 99BBB
I started to turn them off, but I heard a bunch of lurkers scurrying
around like rats, so I left them on for them. :-)
Pat
Re: Tasers
Good for you! Don't forget us 'top posters' are always here and ready to
aggravate the pc newsgroupers ;-)
Interesting note; I got an email from a good friend the other day who has
been a dis-believer of the whole global warming theory from the get-go (of
course, being a oil industry expert, I figure he's one of the most
propagandized folks on the planet). He sited some scientists research that
the globe is seriously cooling, has been for quite some time AND, is in very
serious jeopardy of incurring a very serious (read; fatal) ice age if the
whole world doesn't figure this out and begin to rectify the problem!
I'm just throwing this out there, stirring the pot ;-)
Enjoy your weather, whatever it is, it might get worse! How about that?!
Later,
Chris
99BBB
"pws" <pwshelton@austin.rr,com > wrote in message
news:4817bc1d$0$4076$4c368faf@roadrunner,com ...
> Chris D'Agnolo wrote:
>> Hey Pat! You gonna turn out the lights? I don't think anybody is here any
>> more ;-)
>>
>> Chris
>> 99BBB
>
> I started to turn them off, but I heard a bunch of lurkers scurrying
> around like rats, so I left them on for them. :-)
>
> Pat
Good for you! Don't forget us 'top posters' are always here and ready to
aggravate the pc newsgroupers ;-)
Interesting note; I got an email from a good friend the other day who has
been a dis-believer of the whole global warming theory from the get-go (of
course, being a oil industry expert, I figure he's one of the most
propagandized folks on the planet). He sited some scientists research that
the globe is seriously cooling, has been for quite some time AND, is in very
serious jeopardy of incurring a very serious (read; fatal) ice age if the
whole world doesn't figure this out and begin to rectify the problem!
I'm just throwing this out there, stirring the pot ;-)
Enjoy your weather, whatever it is, it might get worse! How about that?!
Later,
Chris
99BBB
"pws" <pwshelton@austin.rr,com > wrote in message
news:4817bc1d$0$4076$4c368faf@roadrunner,com ...
> Chris D'Agnolo wrote:
>> Hey Pat! You gonna turn out the lights? I don't think anybody is here any
>> more ;-)
>>
>> Chris
>> 99BBB
>
> I started to turn them off, but I heard a bunch of lurkers scurrying
> around like rats, so I left them on for them. :-)
>
> Pat
