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Nitto NT01 Tires

Reply from: Don
Date: 25 May 2008, 02:44
Nitto NT01 Tires

Hello All,

Has anyone used NT01 R compound tires on their Miata?
I have some on order for Auto-X use and am having some second
thoughts.

I would like to hear your experiences.

Don

Reply from: Chris D'Agnolo
Date: 26 May 2008, 03:17
Re: Nitto NT01 Tires

I have no experience with them but Nitto tires in general are pretty good
performers and usually, quite a good value. I'll watch here for input but
will look forward to you posting some info if you do use them please!

Chris
99BBB


"Don" <roadrunner@canyontraders,com > wrote in message
news:e3d32320-7836-454a-bf47-be60c7e492e7@j22g2000hsf.googlegroups,com ...
> Hello All,
>
> Has anyone used NT01 R compound tires on their Miata?
> I have some on order for Auto-X use and am having some second
> thoughts.
>
> I would like to hear your experiences.
>
> Don



Reply from: Don
Date: 28 May 2008, 15:58
Re: Nitto NT01 Tires

On May 25, 7:17 pm, "Chris D'Agnolo" <cdagn...@alltel,net > wrote:
> I have no experience with them but Nitto tires in general are pretty good
> performers and usually, quite a good value. I'll watch here for input but
> will look forward to you posting some info if you do use them please!
>
> Chris
> 99BBB
>
> "Don" <roadrun...@canyontraders,com > wrote in message
>
> news:e3d32320-7836-454a-bf47-be60c7e492e7@j22g2000hsf.googlegroups,com ...
>
> > Hello All,
>
> > Has anyone used NT01 R compound tires on their Miata?
> > I have some on order for Auto-X use and am having some second
> > thoughts.
>
> > I would like to hear your experiences.
>
> > Don

Well, they are on order and should be here tomorrow. I plan to run
them in an auto-x on Saturday if all goes well with the delivery.

They aren't as well known as some other brands and I have not seen
anyone running them. I did find an article that stated that they are
made by Toyo and might have the R888 compound that has been used in
Europe for awhile now. They certainly will not be as "sticky" as
Hoosiers but might last longer. At my stage that is an important
benefit.

I will indeed keep the group advised of the success. Hopefully, I
will be elated!!

Don

Reply from: Chris D'Agnolo
Date: 29 May 2008, 00:35
Re: Nitto NT01 Tires

If you're changing from street tires, ya, you're going to love it I'm sure!

Later,
Chris

"Don" <roadrunner@canyontraders,com > wrote in message
news:18baaa44-a8c2-43d7-8fe7-d5bda849fa65@i76g2000hsf.googlegroups,com ...
On May 25, 7:17 pm, "Chris D'Agnolo" <cdagn...@alltel,net > wrote:
> I have no experience with them but Nitto tires in general are pretty good
> performers and usually, quite a good value. I'll watch here for input but
> will look forward to you posting some info if you do use them please!
>
> Chris
> 99BBB
>
> "Don" <roadrun...@canyontraders,com > wrote in message
>
> news:e3d32320-7836-454a-bf47-be60c7e492e7@j22g2000hsf.googlegroups,com ...
>
> > Hello All,
>
> > Has anyone used NT01 R compound tires on their Miata?
> > I have some on order for Auto-X use and am having some second
> > thoughts.
>
> > I would like to hear your experiences.
>
> > Don

Well, they are on order and should be here tomorrow. I plan to run
them in an auto-x on Saturday if all goes well with the delivery.

They aren't as well known as some other brands and I have not seen
anyone running them. I did find an article that stated that they are
made by Toyo and might have the R888 compound that has been used in
Europe for awhile now. They certainly will not be as "sticky" as
Hoosiers but might last longer. At my stage that is an important
benefit.

I will indeed keep the group advised of the success. Hopefully, I
will be elated!!

Don



Reply from: Don
Date: 03 Jun 2008, 23:34
Re: Nitto NT01 Tires

On May 28, 4:35 pm, "Chris D'Agnolo" <cdagn...@alltel,net > wrote:
> If you're changing from street tires, ya, you're going to love it I'm sure!
>
> Later,
> Chris
>
> "Don" <roadrun...@canyontraders,com > wrote in message
>
> news:18baaa44-a8c2-43d7-8fe7-d5bda849fa65@i76g2000hsf.googlegroups,com ...
> On May 25, 7:17 pm, "Chris D'Agnolo" <cdagn...@alltel,net > wrote:
>
>
>
> > I have no experience with them but Nitto tires in general are pretty good
> > performers and usually, quite a good value. I'll watch here for input but
> > will look forward to you posting some info if you do use them please!
>
> > Chris
> > 99BBB
>
> > "Don" <roadrun...@canyontraders,com > wrote in message
>
> >news:e3d32320-7836-454a-bf47-be60c7e492e7@j22g2000hsf.googlegroups,com ...
>
> > > Hello All,
>
> > > Has anyone used NT01 R compound tires on their Miata?
> > > I have some on order for Auto-X use and am having some second
> > > thoughts.
>
> > > I would like to hear your experiences.
>
> > > Don
>
> Well, they are on order and should be here tomorrow.  I plan to run
> them in an auto-x on Saturday if all goes well with the delivery.
>
> They aren't as well known as some other brands and I have not seen
> anyone running them.  I did find an article that stated that they are
> made by Toyo and might have the R888 compound that has been used in
> Europe for awhile now.  They certainly will not be as "sticky" as
> Hoosiers but might last longer.  At my stage that is an important
> benefit.
>
> I will indeed keep the group advised of the success.  Hopefully, I
> will be elated!!
>
> Don

I did indeed try the NT01 Nitto tires and found that the first run was
quite an adventure. These tires seem to need some heat to stick. We
had 6 or 7 runs or about 48 seconds each and by the end I had dropped
1 sec per run. The first one had zero stick and the last was getting
pretty well into the groove. /

These are basically road race tires and there for might not be quite
right for auto-x. I will give them another shot in a couple of weeks
and let the group know what is going on with them.

Don.

Reply from: Chris D'Agnolo
Date: 08 Jun 2008, 17:08
Re: Nitto NT01 Tires



I did indeed try the NT01 Nitto tires and found that the first run was
quite an adventure. These tires seem to need some heat to stick. We
had 6 or 7 runs or about 48 seconds each and by the end I had dropped
1 sec per run. The first one had zero stick and the last was getting
pretty well into the groove. /

These are basically road race tires and there for might not be quite
right for auto-x. I will give them another shot in a couple of weeks
and let the group know what is going on with them.

Don.
\

Don, ya, that makes very good sense if, as you say, they are track tires. Do
you do track day events where you could keep these aside just for those? If
not, you may want to sell them while you can still get something out of them
rather than be disappointed over and over at Auto-x. Also, they will likely
last what seems like forever simply 45 ~ 65 seconds at a shot.

One other consideration would be to try to find out if there is some heat
cycling routine that you are supposed to put the tires thru. This is true of
many r-compound tires and could be a way of getting them to behave more like
you need, not sure. Contact the tech dept of the mfr if you can't find
enough tech knowledge about that particular tire online. Individual brands
of tires are very different.

Lastly, if you're stuck with them (for auto-x only), you might investigate
shaving them. This might get them to heat quicker (not sure about that) and
they would still probably last a long time.

Do keep us posted,
Chris
99BBB




Reply from: Don
Date: 12 Jun 2008, 14:27
Re: Nitto NT01 Tires

On Jun 8, 9:08 am, "Chris D'Agnolo" <cdagn...@alltel,net > wrote:
> I did indeed try the NT01 Nitto tires and found that the first run was
> quite an adventure.  These tires seem to need some heat to stick.  We
> had 6 or 7 runs or about 48 seconds each and by the end I had dropped
> 1 sec per run.  The first one had zero stick and the last was getting
> pretty well into the groove.  /
>
> These are basically road race tires and there for might not be quite
> right for auto-x.  I will give them another shot in a couple of weeks
> and let the group know what is going on with them.
>
> Don.
> \
>
> Don, ya, that makes very good sense if, as you say, they are track tires. Do
> you do track day events where you could keep these aside just for those? If
> not, you may want to sell them while you can still get something out of them
> rather than be disappointed over and over at Auto-x. Also, they will likely
> last what seems like forever simply 45 ~ 65 seconds at a shot.
>
> One other consideration would be to try to find out if there is some heat
> cycling routine that you are supposed to put the tires thru. This is true of
> many r-compound tires and could be a way of getting them to behave more like
> you need, not sure. Contact the tech dept of the mfr if you can't find
> enough tech knowledge about that particular tire online. Individual brands
> of tires are very different.
>
> Lastly, if you're stuck with them (for auto-x only), you might investigate
> shaving them. This might get them to heat quicker (not sure about that) and
> they would still probably last a long time.
>
> Do keep us posted,
> Chris
> 99BBB

Chris,

I have been doing some track days and I think these tires will do well
there. I had read reviews posted by some users with heavier cars like
BMW's and they thought they were great for auto-x. The heavy cars
might build up heat faster than my light Miata though, and that could
be the difference.

I plan to run them again at a longer auto-x next weekend and will see
if I can play around with pressures and get a bit more grip. Getting
new tires is a real adventure!!

Don

Reply from: Don
Date: 23 Jun 2008, 19:59
Re: Nitto NT01 Tires

On Jun 12, 6:27 am, Don <roadrun...@canyontraders,com > wrote:
> On Jun 8, 9:08 am, "Chris D'Agnolo" <cdagn...@alltel,net > wrote:
>
>
>
> > I did indeed try the NT01 Nitto tires and found that the first run was
> > quite an adventure.  These tires seem to need some heat to stick.  We
> > had 6 or 7 runs or about 48 seconds each and by the end I had dropped
> > 1 sec per run.  The first one had zero stick and the last was getting
> > pretty well into the groove.  /
>
> > These are basically road race tires and there for might not be quite
> > right for auto-x.  I will give them another shot in a couple of weeks
> > and let the group know what is going on with them.
>
> > Don.
> > \
>
> > Don, ya, that makes very good sense if, as you say, they are track tires. Do
> > you do track day events where you could keep these aside just for those? If
> > not, you may want to sell them while you can still get something out of them
> > rather than be disappointed over and over at Auto-x. Also, they will likely
> > last what seems like forever simply 45 ~ 65 seconds at a shot.
>
> > One other consideration would be to try to find out if there is some heat
> > cycling routine that you are supposed to put the tires thru. This is true of
> > many r-compound tires and could be a way of getting them to behave more like
> > you need, not sure. Contact the tech dept of the mfr if you can't find
> > enough tech knowledge about that particular tire online. Individual brands
> > of tires are very different.
>
> > Lastly, if you're stuck with them (for auto-x only), you might investigate
> > shaving them. This might get them to heat quicker (not sure about that) and
> > they would still probably last a long time.
>
> > Do keep us posted,
> > Chris
> > 99BBB
>
> Chris,
>
> I have been doing some track days and I think these tires will do well
> there.  I had read reviews posted by some users with heavier cars like
> BMW's and they thought they were great for auto-x. The heavy cars
> might build up heat faster than my light Miata though, and that could
> be the difference.
>
> I plan to run them again at a longer auto-x next weekend and will see
> if I can play around with pressures and get a bit more grip.  Getting
> new tires is a real adventure!!
>
> Don

Update.

The Nittos did well yesterday at a local auto-x. They do need some
heat but it is fairly warm here now so the ambient temperature helps.
These tires are not auto-x exclusive tires so for my use they will be
a good compromise.

I ran 34 psi in the front and about 36 psi in the rear and on one run
I actually got the rear to hang out a bit. This is unusual for the
Miata. I am working on an understeer problem but have finally come to
realize that the problem is the driver, not the car. You can't turn
as fast as you want!! Imagine that.

I am going to tape a message to the dash that says "Learn to Drive The
Car!!"

So far the verdict for the Nittos is: O.K. I would like to do a track
day and see how they do there.

Don




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