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Saturn SL2 Died away from Home/ Please comment
Saturn SL2 Died away from Home/ Please comment
Yesterday I drove from Upstate NY to Long Island
My destination was made and then car died. Each time I started the
car
it would die when I drove a few feet. (More later about this)
I called towing service $650 plus tolls to get my car home, forget
this.
I called vehicle donation program to take car away. No way must have
title. I said I do not carry it in my car. Oh no what should I do.
Thank GOD I was very close to ADVANCE AUTO.
I spent 8 hours fixing transmission line leak. Lost 3 quarts of oil.
Real leak was oil transmission oil filter, Finally no leaks but:
When I drive the car it would die when I would hit the brake pedal.
So
I drove and would use hand brake to go down the street.
So I drove to a service station that night and asked if they can take
a look.
I said perhaps can not be fixed tonight so Mechanic said he will
disable Brake pedal switch.
Okay we talked for a few min I said do not bother we can pull fuse.
He was great only 10 dollars for one hour. Long Island is great
I was on my way. Another couple of problems. Signal light and flasher
would also make engine spit sputter and almost die. So I avoided
using
them.
At last I made it home
Today a new day clean all oil off of front of transmission area. Open
up wiring harness. No oil in harness. Clean all wires to transmission
and oh boy no more problem.
Not exactly sure why car is running with no problems. I put the fuse
back for the brake lights and still no problem.
Anybody have a clue what happened ?
All day today car is running fine.
Should I trust this car again?
Yesterday I drove from Upstate NY to Long Island
My destination was made and then car died. Each time I started the
car
it would die when I drove a few feet. (More later about this)
I called towing service $650 plus tolls to get my car home, forget
this.
I called vehicle donation program to take car away. No way must have
title. I said I do not carry it in my car. Oh no what should I do.
Thank GOD I was very close to ADVANCE AUTO.
I spent 8 hours fixing transmission line leak. Lost 3 quarts of oil.
Real leak was oil transmission oil filter, Finally no leaks but:
When I drive the car it would die when I would hit the brake pedal.
So
I drove and would use hand brake to go down the street.
So I drove to a service station that night and asked if they can take
a look.
I said perhaps can not be fixed tonight so Mechanic said he will
disable Brake pedal switch.
Okay we talked for a few min I said do not bother we can pull fuse.
He was great only 10 dollars for one hour. Long Island is great
I was on my way. Another couple of problems. Signal light and flasher
would also make engine spit sputter and almost die. So I avoided
using
them.
At last I made it home
Today a new day clean all oil off of front of transmission area. Open
up wiring harness. No oil in harness. Clean all wires to transmission
and oh boy no more problem.
Not exactly sure why car is running with no problems. I put the fuse
back for the brake lights and still no problem.
Anybody have a clue what happened ?
All day today car is running fine.
Should I trust this car again?
Re: Saturn SL2 Died away from Home/ Please comment
Have the battery and alternator tested. I know some automotive stores do
this for no charge. Very weird things can happen if the electrical system
is having problems.
It's good to hear you didn't get rid of the car. It is always cheaper to
fix what you own rather than buy something else (assuming what you buy is in
a better condition). I'll never understand how some people justify getting
rid of a car over a "too expensive" repair when the alternative is spending
20x - 100x as much on a new car.
Lane [ lane (at) evilplastic,com ]
---
Visit my Saturn Car Audio and Performance Page at http :// www .evilplastic,com
"dave" <skaus2000@yahoo,com > wrote in message
news:c88e4396-e585-47e0-89f8-48a2c6769642@q60g2000hsb.googlegroups,com ...
> Yesterday I drove from Upstate NY to Long Island
>
> My destination was made and then car died. Each time I started the
> car
> it would die when I drove a few feet. (More later about this)
> I called towing service $650 plus tolls to get my car home, forget
> this.
> I called vehicle donation program to take car away. No way must have
> title. I said I do not carry it in my car. Oh no what should I do.
> Thank GOD I was very close to ADVANCE AUTO.
>
>
> I spent 8 hours fixing transmission line leak. Lost 3 quarts of oil.
> Real leak was oil transmission oil filter, Finally no leaks but:
>
>
> When I drive the car it would die when I would hit the brake pedal.
> So
> I drove and would use hand brake to go down the street.
>
>
> So I drove to a service station that night and asked if they can take
> a look.
> I said perhaps can not be fixed tonight so Mechanic said he will
> disable Brake pedal switch.
> Okay we talked for a few min I said do not bother we can pull fuse.
> He was great only 10 dollars for one hour. Long Island is great
>
>
> I was on my way. Another couple of problems. Signal light and flasher
> would also make engine spit sputter and almost die. So I avoided
> using
> them.
>
>
> At last I made it home
> Today a new day clean all oil off of front of transmission area. Open
> up wiring harness. No oil in harness. Clean all wires to transmission
> and oh boy no more problem.
>
>
> Not exactly sure why car is running with no problems. I put the fuse
> back for the brake lights and still no problem.
>
>
> Anybody have a clue what happened ?
> All day today car is running fine.
> Should I trust this car again?
Have the battery and alternator tested. I know some automotive stores do
this for no charge. Very weird things can happen if the electrical system
is having problems.
It's good to hear you didn't get rid of the car. It is always cheaper to
fix what you own rather than buy something else (assuming what you buy is in
a better condition). I'll never understand how some people justify getting
rid of a car over a "too expensive" repair when the alternative is spending
20x - 100x as much on a new car.
Lane [ lane (at) evilplastic,com ]
---
Visit my Saturn Car Audio and Performance Page at http :// www .evilplastic,com
"dave" <skaus2000@yahoo,com > wrote in message
news:c88e4396-e585-47e0-89f8-48a2c6769642@q60g2000hsb.googlegroups,com ...
> Yesterday I drove from Upstate NY to Long Island
>
> My destination was made and then car died. Each time I started the
> car
> it would die when I drove a few feet. (More later about this)
> I called towing service $650 plus tolls to get my car home, forget
> this.
> I called vehicle donation program to take car away. No way must have
> title. I said I do not carry it in my car. Oh no what should I do.
> Thank GOD I was very close to ADVANCE AUTO.
>
>
> I spent 8 hours fixing transmission line leak. Lost 3 quarts of oil.
> Real leak was oil transmission oil filter, Finally no leaks but:
>
>
> When I drive the car it would die when I would hit the brake pedal.
> So
> I drove and would use hand brake to go down the street.
>
>
> So I drove to a service station that night and asked if they can take
> a look.
> I said perhaps can not be fixed tonight so Mechanic said he will
> disable Brake pedal switch.
> Okay we talked for a few min I said do not bother we can pull fuse.
> He was great only 10 dollars for one hour. Long Island is great
>
>
> I was on my way. Another couple of problems. Signal light and flasher
> would also make engine spit sputter and almost die. So I avoided
> using
> them.
>
>
> At last I made it home
> Today a new day clean all oil off of front of transmission area. Open
> up wiring harness. No oil in harness. Clean all wires to transmission
> and oh boy no more problem.
>
>
> Not exactly sure why car is running with no problems. I put the fuse
> back for the brake lights and still no problem.
>
>
> Anybody have a clue what happened ?
> All day today car is running fine.
> Should I trust this car again?
Re: Saturn SL2 Died away from Home/ Please comment
Lane wrote:
>
> It's good to hear you didn't get rid of the car. It is always cheaper to
> fix what you own rather than buy something else (assuming what you buy is in
> a better condition). I'll never understand how some people justify getting
> rid of a car over a "too expensive" repair when the alternative is spending
> 20x - 100x as much on a new car.
>
<snip>
I agree with you 100% on this, but there are a lot of people who are
afraid that if they dump a large amount in, that there will then be a
catastrophic failure within a short time and their money and the repair
will wave goodbye!
My problem is just the opposite, I tend to dump parts and time into
things that are not worth it. I spent hours a year ago putting a new
floor into my Ford F-150, but the frame was really too rusty to justify
such and I had to junk the truck a few months ago when the truck became
too unsafe to drive.
Lane wrote:
>
> It's good to hear you didn't get rid of the car. It is always cheaper to
> fix what you own rather than buy something else (assuming what you buy is in
> a better condition). I'll never understand how some people justify getting
> rid of a car over a "too expensive" repair when the alternative is spending
> 20x - 100x as much on a new car.
>
<snip>
I agree with you 100% on this, but there are a lot of people who are
afraid that if they dump a large amount in, that there will then be a
catastrophic failure within a short time and their money and the repair
will wave goodbye!
My problem is just the opposite, I tend to dump parts and time into
things that are not worth it. I spent hours a year ago putting a new
floor into my Ford F-150, but the frame was really too rusty to justify
such and I had to junk the truck a few months ago when the truck became
too unsafe to drive.
Re: Saturn SL2 Died away from Home/ Please comment
dave, what year SL2? Have you had a shop check for codes? it's very easy and
could tell what your issue is.
--
marx404
"dave" <skaus2000@yahoo,com > wrote in message
news:c88e4396-e585-47e0-89f8-48a2c6769642@q60g2000hsb.googlegroups,com ...
> Yesterday I drove from Upstate NY to Long Island
>
> My destination was made and then car died. Each time I started the
> car
> it would die when I drove a few feet. (More later about this)
> I called towing service $650 plus tolls to get my car home, forget
> this.
> I called vehicle donation program to take car away. No way must have
> title. I said I do not carry it in my car. Oh no what should I do.
> Thank GOD I was very close to ADVANCE AUTO.
>
>
> I spent 8 hours fixing transmission line leak. Lost 3 quarts of oil.
> Real leak was oil transmission oil filter, Finally no leaks but:
>
>
> When I drive the car it would die when I would hit the brake pedal.
> So
> I drove and would use hand brake to go down the street.
>
>
> So I drove to a service station that night and asked if they can take
> a look.
> I said perhaps can not be fixed tonight so Mechanic said he will
> disable Brake pedal switch.
> Okay we talked for a few min I said do not bother we can pull fuse.
> He was great only 10 dollars for one hour. Long Island is great
>
>
> I was on my way. Another couple of problems. Signal light and flasher
> would also make engine spit sputter and almost die. So I avoided
> using
> them.
>
>
> At last I made it home
> Today a new day clean all oil off of front of transmission area. Open
> up wiring harness. No oil in harness. Clean all wires to transmission
> and oh boy no more problem.
>
>
> Not exactly sure why car is running with no problems. I put the fuse
> back for the brake lights and still no problem.
>
>
> Anybody have a clue what happened ?
> All day today car is running fine.
> Should I trust this car again?
dave, what year SL2? Have you had a shop check for codes? it's very easy and
could tell what your issue is.
--
marx404
"dave" <skaus2000@yahoo,com > wrote in message
news:c88e4396-e585-47e0-89f8-48a2c6769642@q60g2000hsb.googlegroups,com ...
> Yesterday I drove from Upstate NY to Long Island
>
> My destination was made and then car died. Each time I started the
> car
> it would die when I drove a few feet. (More later about this)
> I called towing service $650 plus tolls to get my car home, forget
> this.
> I called vehicle donation program to take car away. No way must have
> title. I said I do not carry it in my car. Oh no what should I do.
> Thank GOD I was very close to ADVANCE AUTO.
>
>
> I spent 8 hours fixing transmission line leak. Lost 3 quarts of oil.
> Real leak was oil transmission oil filter, Finally no leaks but:
>
>
> When I drive the car it would die when I would hit the brake pedal.
> So
> I drove and would use hand brake to go down the street.
>
>
> So I drove to a service station that night and asked if they can take
> a look.
> I said perhaps can not be fixed tonight so Mechanic said he will
> disable Brake pedal switch.
> Okay we talked for a few min I said do not bother we can pull fuse.
> He was great only 10 dollars for one hour. Long Island is great
>
>
> I was on my way. Another couple of problems. Signal light and flasher
> would also make engine spit sputter and almost die. So I avoided
> using
> them.
>
>
> At last I made it home
> Today a new day clean all oil off of front of transmission area. Open
> up wiring harness. No oil in harness. Clean all wires to transmission
> and oh boy no more problem.
>
>
> Not exactly sure why car is running with no problems. I put the fuse
> back for the brake lights and still no problem.
>
>
> Anybody have a clue what happened ?
> All day today car is running fine.
> Should I trust this car again?
Re: Saturn SL2 Died away from Home/ Please comment
Sounds like the battery is not getting charged and is so bad a little extra
load drops the voltage too low. Alternator and/or battery problem.
Fred
"dave" <skaus2000@yahoo,com > wrote in message
news:c88e4396-e585-47e0-89f8-48a2c6769642@q60g2000hsb.googlegroups,com ...
> Yesterday I drove from Upstate NY to Long Island
>
> My destination was made and then car died. Each time I started the
> car
> it would die when I drove a few feet. (More later about this)
> I called towing service $650 plus tolls to get my car home, forget
> this.
> I called vehicle donation program to take car away. No way must have
> title. I said I do not carry it in my car. Oh no what should I do.
> Thank GOD I was very close to ADVANCE AUTO.
>
>
> I spent 8 hours fixing transmission line leak. Lost 3 quarts of oil.
> Real leak was oil transmission oil filter, Finally no leaks but:
>
>
> When I drive the car it would die when I would hit the brake pedal.
> So
> I drove and would use hand brake to go down the street.
>
>
> So I drove to a service station that night and asked if they can take
> a look.
> I said perhaps can not be fixed tonight so Mechanic said he will
> disable Brake pedal switch.
> Okay we talked for a few min I said do not bother we can pull fuse.
> He was great only 10 dollars for one hour. Long Island is great
>
>
> I was on my way. Another couple of problems. Signal light and flasher
> would also make engine spit sputter and almost die. So I avoided
> using
> them.
>
>
> At last I made it home
> Today a new day clean all oil off of front of transmission area. Open
> up wiring harness. No oil in harness. Clean all wires to transmission
> and oh boy no more problem.
>
>
> Not exactly sure why car is running with no problems. I put the fuse
> back for the brake lights and still no problem.
>
>
> Anybody have a clue what happened ?
> All day today car is running fine.
> Should I trust this car again?
Sounds like the battery is not getting charged and is so bad a little extra
load drops the voltage too low. Alternator and/or battery problem.
Fred
"dave" <skaus2000@yahoo,com > wrote in message
news:c88e4396-e585-47e0-89f8-48a2c6769642@q60g2000hsb.googlegroups,com ...
> Yesterday I drove from Upstate NY to Long Island
>
> My destination was made and then car died. Each time I started the
> car
> it would die when I drove a few feet. (More later about this)
> I called towing service $650 plus tolls to get my car home, forget
> this.
> I called vehicle donation program to take car away. No way must have
> title. I said I do not carry it in my car. Oh no what should I do.
> Thank GOD I was very close to ADVANCE AUTO.
>
>
> I spent 8 hours fixing transmission line leak. Lost 3 quarts of oil.
> Real leak was oil transmission oil filter, Finally no leaks but:
>
>
> When I drive the car it would die when I would hit the brake pedal.
> So
> I drove and would use hand brake to go down the street.
>
>
> So I drove to a service station that night and asked if they can take
> a look.
> I said perhaps can not be fixed tonight so Mechanic said he will
> disable Brake pedal switch.
> Okay we talked for a few min I said do not bother we can pull fuse.
> He was great only 10 dollars for one hour. Long Island is great
>
>
> I was on my way. Another couple of problems. Signal light and flasher
> would also make engine spit sputter and almost die. So I avoided
> using
> them.
>
>
> At last I made it home
> Today a new day clean all oil off of front of transmission area. Open
> up wiring harness. No oil in harness. Clean all wires to transmission
> and oh boy no more problem.
>
>
> Not exactly sure why car is running with no problems. I put the fuse
> back for the brake lights and still no problem.
>
>
> Anybody have a clue what happened ?
> All day today car is running fine.
> Should I trust this car again?
Re: Saturn SL2 Died away from Home/ Please comment
On Dec 22, 10:19 am, "Fred" <fre...@sbcglobal,net > wrote:
> Sounds like the battery is not getting charged and is so bad a little extra
> load drops the voltage too low. Alternator and/or battery problem.
> Fred
>
> "dave" <skaus2...@yahoo,com > wrote in message
>
> news:c88e4396-e585-47e0-89f8-48a2c6769642@q60g2000hsb.googlegroups,com ...
>
>
>
> > Yesterday I drove from Upstate NY to Long Island
>
> > My destination was made and then car died. Each time I started the
> > car
> > it would die when I drove a few feet. (More later about this)
> > I called towing service $650 plus tolls to get my car home, forget
> > this.
> > I called vehicle donation program to take car away. No way must have
> > title. I said I do not carry it in my car. Oh no what should I do.
> > Thank GOD I was very close to ADVANCE AUTO.
>
> > I spent 8 hours fixing transmission line leak. Lost 3 quarts of oil.
> > Real leak was oil transmission oil filter, Finally no leaks but:
>
> > When I drive the car it would die when I would hit the brake pedal.
> > So
> > I drove and would use hand brake to go down the street.
>
> > So I drove to a service station that night and asked if they can take
> > a look.
> > I said perhaps can not be fixed tonight so Mechanic said he will
> > disable Brake pedal switch.
> > Okay we talked for a few min I said do not bother we can pull fuse.
> > He was great only 10 dollars for one hour. Long Island is great
>
> > I was on my way. Another couple of problems. Signal light and flasher
> > would also make engine spit sputter and almost die. So I avoided
> > using
> > them.
>
> > At last I made it home
> > Today a new day clean all oil off of front of transmission area. Open
> > up wiring harness. No oil in harness. Clean all wires to transmission
> > and oh boy no more problem.
>
> > Not exactly sure why car is running with no problems. I put the fuse
> > back for the brake lights and still no problem.
>
> > Anybody have a clue what happened ?
> > All day today car is running fine.
> > Should I trust this car again?- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
probably bat and alernator.. especiallly if you where throwing oil up
at the alternator
On Dec 22, 10:19 am, "Fred" <fre...@sbcglobal,net > wrote:
> Sounds like the battery is not getting charged and is so bad a little extra
> load drops the voltage too low. Alternator and/or battery problem.
> Fred
>
> "dave" <skaus2...@yahoo,com > wrote in message
>
> news:c88e4396-e585-47e0-89f8-48a2c6769642@q60g2000hsb.googlegroups,com ...
>
>
>
> > Yesterday I drove from Upstate NY to Long Island
>
> > My destination was made and then car died. Each time I started the
> > car
> > it would die when I drove a few feet. (More later about this)
> > I called towing service $650 plus tolls to get my car home, forget
> > this.
> > I called vehicle donation program to take car away. No way must have
> > title. I said I do not carry it in my car. Oh no what should I do.
> > Thank GOD I was very close to ADVANCE AUTO.
>
> > I spent 8 hours fixing transmission line leak. Lost 3 quarts of oil.
> > Real leak was oil transmission oil filter, Finally no leaks but:
>
> > When I drive the car it would die when I would hit the brake pedal.
> > So
> > I drove and would use hand brake to go down the street.
>
> > So I drove to a service station that night and asked if they can take
> > a look.
> > I said perhaps can not be fixed tonight so Mechanic said he will
> > disable Brake pedal switch.
> > Okay we talked for a few min I said do not bother we can pull fuse.
> > He was great only 10 dollars for one hour. Long Island is great
>
> > I was on my way. Another couple of problems. Signal light and flasher
> > would also make engine spit sputter and almost die. So I avoided
> > using
> > them.
>
> > At last I made it home
> > Today a new day clean all oil off of front of transmission area. Open
> > up wiring harness. No oil in harness. Clean all wires to transmission
> > and oh boy no more problem.
>
> > Not exactly sure why car is running with no problems. I put the fuse
> > back for the brake lights and still no problem.
>
> > Anybody have a clue what happened ?
> > All day today car is running fine.
> > Should I trust this car again?- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
probably bat and alernator.. especiallly if you where throwing oil up
at the alternator
Re: Saturn SL2 Died away from Home/ Please comment
it and remain
oppressed.
639. When Nebuchadnezzar carried away the people, for fear they should
believe that the sceptre had departed from Judah, they were told beforehand
that they would be there for a short time, and that they would be restored.
They were always consoled by the prophets; and their kings continued. But
the second destruction is without promise of restoration, without prophets,
without kings, without consolation, without hope, because the sceptre is
taken away for ever.
640. It is a wonderful thing, and worthy of particular attention, to see
this Jewish people existing so many years in perpetual misery, it being
necessary as a proof of Jesus Christ both that they should exist to prove
Him and that they should be miserable because they crucified Him; and though
to be miserable and to exist are contradictory, they nevertheless still
exist in spite of their misery.
641. They are visibly a people expressly created to serve as a witness to
the Messiah (Isaiah 43:9; 44:8). They keep the books, and love them, and do
not understand them. And all this was foretold; that God's judgments are
entrusted to them, but as a sealed book.
SECTION X: TYPOLOGY
642. Proof of the two Testaments at once.--To prove the two at one stroke,
we need only see if the prophecies in one are fulfilled in the other. To
examine the prophecies, we must understand them. For if we believe they have
only one meaning, it is certain that the Messiah has not come; but if they
have two meanings, it is certain that He has come in Jesus Christ.
The whole problem then is to know if they have two meanings.
That the Scripture has two meanings, which Jesus Christ and the Apostles
have given, is shown by the following
it and remain
oppressed.
639. When Nebuchadnezzar carried away the people, for fear they should
believe that the sceptre had departed from Judah, they were told beforehand
that they would be there for a short time, and that they would be restored.
They were always consoled by the prophets; and their kings continued. But
the second destruction is without promise of restoration, without prophets,
without kings, without consolation, without hope, because the sceptre is
taken away for ever.
640. It is a wonderful thing, and worthy of particular attention, to see
this Jewish people existing so many years in perpetual misery, it being
necessary as a proof of Jesus Christ both that they should exist to prove
Him and that they should be miserable because they crucified Him; and though
to be miserable and to exist are contradictory, they nevertheless still
exist in spite of their misery.
641. They are visibly a people expressly created to serve as a witness to
the Messiah (Isaiah 43:9; 44:8). They keep the books, and love them, and do
not understand them. And all this was foretold; that God's judgments are
entrusted to them, but as a sealed book.
SECTION X: TYPOLOGY
642. Proof of the two Testaments at once.--To prove the two at one stroke,
we need only see if the prophecies in one are fulfilled in the other. To
examine the prophecies, we must understand them. For if we believe they have
only one meaning, it is certain that the Messiah has not come; but if they
have two meanings, it is certain that He has come in Jesus Christ.
The whole problem then is to know if they have two meanings.
That the Scripture has two meanings, which Jesus Christ and the Apostles
have given, is shown by the following
