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sim racing is dead

Reply from: timmy thompson
Date: 18 Dec 2006, 04:32
sim racing is dead

that is a sad fact

Reply from: gordo
Date: 18 Dec 2006, 04:34
Re: sim racing is dead


"timmy thompson" <terminator@famatters,com > wrote in message
news:45860bbe$0$16941$4c368faf@roadrunner,com ...
> that is a sad fact
That's strange........
I attended the PRI trade show this week and there were lots of new racing
simulators on display.



Reply from: Darus
Date: 18 Dec 2006, 13:02
Re: sim racing is dead


On Dec 17, 10:32 pm, timmy thompson <termina...@famatters,com > wrote:
> that is a sad fact

Hmmm...I would think that in order to make that a "fact" and not an
opinion, one need to provide proof of some kind. Aside from the 5 words
you posted, I see none.

rF
GTR2
Race2Play
Iracing,com

There are just 4 of the reasons <I> am excited about the future of sim
racing.


Reply from: Osarenren
Date: 18 Dec 2006, 14:26
Re: sim racing is dead

I could not agrE more.

I personally think that,next to flight sims, racing sims are the most
realistic form of gaming available and race simming in the coming years
will only get more realistic and immersive. the day will come when all
top real life racers will have to have sims in their practice arsenals
to stay on top of their game.

all also like to your list of reasons why sim racing is not dead

1. dedicated physics processing units

2. ageia physx api integrated into sims

3.upcoming ferrari project from blimey

4. dx10
Darus wrote:
> On Dec 17, 10:32 pm, timmy thompson <termina...@famatters,com > wrote:
> > that is a sad fact
>
> Hmmm...I would think that in order to make that a "fact" and not an
> opinion, one need to provide proof of some kind. Aside from the 5 words
> you posted, I see none.
>
> rF
> GTR2
> Race2Play
> Iracing,com
>
> There are just 4 of the reasons <I> am excited about the future of sim
> racing.


Reply from: Tim Wheatley
Date: 18 Dec 2006, 14:01
Re: sim racing is dead

timmy thompson wrote:

> that is a sad fact

I couldn't disagree more. In my opinion, it's going to be reborn in
2007.


Reply from: Osarenren
Date: 18 Dec 2006, 14:17
Re: sim racing is dead

LMAO

Tim Wheatley wrote:
> timmy thompson wrote:
>
> > that is a sad fact
>
> I couldn't disagree more. In my opinion, it's going to be reborn in
> 2007.


Reply from: Tony Rickard
Date: 18 Dec 2006, 23:26
Re: sim racing is dead

Tim Wheatley wrote:
> timmy thompson wrote:
>
>> that is a sad fact
>
> I couldn't disagree more. In my opinion, it's going to be reborn in
> 2007.

That would rather agree with the OP that it is dead now!

In my view in 2006 sim racing has continued to evolve at a reasonable
pace. Whether 2007 will bring a 1998 type revolution remains to be seen.
Hopefully we will see significant developments in sim technology and
some organisation bought to the chaos that is only accessible for the
real sim enthusiast limiting the appeal.

As a sim enthusiast myself I would love to see iRacing, Blimey, ISI,
Simbin & Race2Play etc. all succeed with a significant growth in sim
racing drivers, some healthy competition and plenty of choice along with
availability of online drivers in the genre of choice.

The success criteria will vary between these products and their target
markets, but I genuinely wish them all well, if nothing else for my own
selfish reasons.

Cheers
Tony

Reply from: Greg Campbell
Date: 18 Dec 2006, 15:53
Re: sim racing is dead

timmy thompson wrote:

> that is a sad fact

Piss off!

rF, running the 1979 mod alone, is more fun than should be allowed.
Join a league, see the world, have fun.

What is boils down to is: "You're bored because you're boring."

Reply from: Osarenren
Date: 18 Dec 2006, 16:40
Re: sim racing is dead


timmy thompson wrote:
> that is a sad fact

here is a fact if you want one. I was on the gtr2 server on sunday and
all day, from morning to night there wer 15 to 20 FULL,PRIVATE servers
operating. I won't even mention the public servers.


Reply from: flightlessvacuum@gmail,com
Date: 18 Dec 2006, 21:48
Re: sim racing is dead


timmy thompson wrote:
> that is a sad fact

Good riddance.


Reply from: jwilson54
Date: 19 Dec 2006, 02:14
Re: sim racing is dead

flightlessvacuum@gmail,com wrote:
> timmy thompson wrote:
>> that is a sad fact
>
> Good riddance.
>
It may be dead but at our league XNSRL>COM we have 20 to 30 racers a
nite running nascar 2003

Reply from: Jeff Reid
Date: 19 Dec 2006, 02:19
Re: sim racing is dead

> It may be dead but at our league XNSRL>COM we have 20 to 30 racers a nite running nascar 2003

This may be cruel, but what percentage of NR2003 racers have jobs?



Reply from: Plowboy
Date: 19 Dec 2006, 16:25
Re: sim racing is dead

What the hell you mean by that Jeff?



Jeff Reid enlightened us with:
>> It may be dead but at our league XNSRL>COM we have 20 to 30 racers a
>> nite running nascar 2003
>
> This may be cruel, but what percentage of NR2003 racers have jobs?



Reply from: Jeff Reid
Date: 19 Dec 2006, 18:54
Re: sim racing is dead

>> but what percentage of NR2003 racers have jobs?

> What do you mean by that?

NR2003 online is very time consuming. On the open servers, each race
takes about 1/2 hour, warmup, qualify, then race. So 4 races would
take 2 hours. I remember reading about some players that spend 20
hours or more a week online. Maybe the league play is different.

Maybe I should have stated "have jobs or sleep", it was just
referring to the amount of time that NR2003 can consume.













Reply from: Plowboy
Date: 19 Dec 2006, 21:48
Re: sim racing is dead

Hehehee,

Ok I could say, I see what you meant. that is semi true for any online
stuff, is it not?

I dont think it is nearly as bad as LSI??? based online sim'n, so I assume
you had some familiar/similiar background. I personally can get "into a
decent pickup race server" within minutes... albeit with me having kind of
the majority of popular tracks already, but then again if I dont have the
latest incarnation of DegaTona this server is running, I at least know what
I am looking for, and kind of know where to look for the tracks.

What kills me is, like rFactor and GTLegends, last 2 weeks, I go online fri
night or sat night, not that many servers to pick from (that is, with anyone
on them). half are passworded, BUT!!!! the tip of the fricken iceberg,
nonstandard tracks DO NOT show up as unstandard tracks or any clue that I
need to download it, that is, unless you have already downloaded it then you
might know that Dijon is actually Adelade?

All I have to say in response is, How many freaking times I tried to join
Zolder to be told I dont have the fracking track? trouble shooted the
game/firewall/antivirus etc, and days later still have no idea waht the hell
is going on with "zolder"... Where's the tidbit of information, like what
track was the dang server running? why do I need to know the name of the
friggin server host, and the name of the server???? in multiplayer lists?
I never could figure that out, why not name the server and then description
of the cars you pic (as in GTL 65 or not 65 or both, then the mods, then
#players, then level, followed by ping?

I would have to conceed to you Jeff, that in many game except NR03, about 15
minutes into tryin' to run online on "other sim's idea" of how online
matchmaking should be done, has me shutting off the computer in total
frustration, well ok more like loading Nascar and going online or playing
RBR offline..

Jeff Reid enlightened us with:
>>> but what percentage of NR2003 racers have jobs?
>
>> What do you mean by that?
>
> NR2003 online is very time consuming. On the open servers, each race
> takes about 1/2 hour, warmup, qualify, then race. So 4 races would
> take 2 hours. I remember reading about some players that spend 20
> hours or more a week online. Maybe the league play is different.
>
> Maybe I should have stated "have jobs or sleep", it was just
> referring to the amount of time that NR2003 can consume.




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