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Vegas Snooze Fest - Rahal out before turn one
Re: Vegas Snooze Fest - Rahal out before turn one
Albert D. Kallal wrote:
> "Nobody" <nobody@nowhere . com > wrote in message
> news:Xns990CA643B822FIDTOKENnobodyIDTOKEN@66.250.146.128...
>> Entire race to run under yellow.
>
> Yellows? You kidding. On a narrow and dangerous street course, we run
> more laps under green then a IRL race runs on a oval. There is simply
> no comparison to the skill and speed of these cars as compared to the
> other folks that only worried about hiring good looking women to
> drive. Considering the number of green laps on a street course so
> far...... . it been rather amazing...
>
> We had a few issues with the new car..but, then again..that was
> expected....
CART is inferior to IRL.
Albert D. Kallal wrote:
> "Nobody" <nobody@nowhere . com > wrote in message
> news:Xns990CA643B822FIDTOKENnobodyIDTOKEN@66.250.146.128...
>> Entire race to run under yellow.
>
> Yellows? You kidding. On a narrow and dangerous street course, we run
> more laps under green then a IRL race runs on a oval. There is simply
> no comparison to the skill and speed of these cars as compared to the
> other folks that only worried about hiring good looking women to
> drive. Considering the number of green laps on a street course so
> far...... . it been rather amazing...
>
> We had a few issues with the new car..but, then again..that was
> expected....
CART is inferior to IRL.
Re: Vegas Snooze Fest - Rahal out before turn one
On Apr 8, 4:52 pm, "Manco" <manco doll...@net2blah . com > wrote:
> Albert D. Kallal wrote:
> > "Nobody" <nob...@nowhere . com > wrote in message
> >news:Xns990CA643B822FIDTOKENnobodyIDTOKEN@66.250.146.128...
> >> Entire race to run under yellow.
>
> > Yellows? You kidding. On a narrow and dangerous street course, we run
> > more laps under green then a IRL race runs on a oval. There is simply
> > no comparison to the skill and speed of these cars as compared to the
> > other folks that only worried about hiring good looking women to
> > drive. Considering the number of green laps on a street course so
> > far...... . it been rather amazing...
>
> > We had a few issues with the new car..but, then again..that was
> > expected....
>
> CART is inferior to IRL.
CART No longer exists. Get with the program. It's 2007.
On Apr 8, 4:52 pm, "Manco" <manco doll...@net2blah . com > wrote:
> Albert D. Kallal wrote:
> > "Nobody" <nob...@nowhere . com > wrote in message
> >news:Xns990CA643B822FIDTOKENnobodyIDTOKEN@66.250.146.128...
> >> Entire race to run under yellow.
>
> > Yellows? You kidding. On a narrow and dangerous street course, we run
> > more laps under green then a IRL race runs on a oval. There is simply
> > no comparison to the skill and speed of these cars as compared to the
> > other folks that only worried about hiring good looking women to
> > drive. Considering the number of green laps on a street course so
> > far...... . it been rather amazing...
>
> > We had a few issues with the new car..but, then again..that was
> > expected....
>
> CART is inferior to IRL.
CART No longer exists. Get with the program. It's 2007.
Re: Vegas Snooze Fest - Rahal out before turn one
Dave-E wrote:
> On Apr 8, 4:52 pm, "Manco" <manco_doll...@net2blah . com > wrote:
>> Albert D. Kallal wrote:
>>> "Nobody" <nob...@nowhere . com > wrote in message
>>> news:Xns990CA643B822FIDTOKENnobodyIDTOKEN@66.250.146.128...
>>>> Entire race to run under yellow.
>>
>>> Yellows? You kidding. On a narrow and dangerous street course, we
>>> run more laps under green then a IRL race runs on a oval. There is
>>> simply no comparison to the skill and speed of these cars as
>>> compared to the other folks that only worried about hiring good
>>> looking women to drive. Considering the number of green laps on a
>>> street course so far...... . it been rather amazing...
>>
>>> We had a few issues with the new car..but, then again..that was
>>> expected....
>>
>> CART is inferior to IRL.
>
> CART No longer exists. Get with the program. It's 2007.
Ok, but back in 1995 CART was awesome....
Dave-E wrote:
> On Apr 8, 4:52 pm, "Manco" <manco_doll...@net2blah . com > wrote:
>> Albert D. Kallal wrote:
>>> "Nobody" <nob...@nowhere . com > wrote in message
>>> news:Xns990CA643B822FIDTOKENnobodyIDTOKEN@66.250.146.128...
>>>> Entire race to run under yellow.
>>
>>> Yellows? You kidding. On a narrow and dangerous street course, we
>>> run more laps under green then a IRL race runs on a oval. There is
>>> simply no comparison to the skill and speed of these cars as
>>> compared to the other folks that only worried about hiring good
>>> looking women to drive. Considering the number of green laps on a
>>> street course so far...... . it been rather amazing...
>>
>>> We had a few issues with the new car..but, then again..that was
>>> expected....
>>
>> CART is inferior to IRL.
>
> CART No longer exists. Get with the program. It's 2007.
Ok, but back in 1995 CART was awesome....
Re: Vegas Snooze Fest - Rahal out before turn one
On Apr 8, 5:24 pm, "Manco" <manco doll...@net2blah . com > wrote:
> Dave-E wrote:
> > On Apr 8, 4:52 pm, "Manco" <manco doll...@net2blah . com > wrote:
> >> Albert D. Kallal wrote:
> >>> "Nobody" <nob...@nowhere . com > wrote in message
> >>>news:Xns990CA643B822FIDTOKENnobodyIDTOKEN@66.250.146.128...
> >>>> Entire race to run under yellow.
>
> >>> Yellows? You kidding. On a narrow and dangerous street course, we
> >>> run more laps under green then a IRL race runs on a oval. There is
> >>> simply no comparison to the skill and speed of these cars as
> >>> compared to the other folks that only worried about hiring good
> >>> looking women to drive. Considering the number of green laps on a
> >>> street course so far...... . it been rather amazing...
>
> >>> We had a few issues with the new car..but, then again..that was
> >>> expected....
>
> >> CART is inferior to IRL.
>
> > CART No longer exists. Get with the program. It's 2007.
>
> Ok, but back in 1995 CART was awesome....
Yep. That was the stuff back then. Unfortunately neither series is
anywhere these days.
On Apr 8, 5:24 pm, "Manco" <manco doll...@net2blah . com > wrote:
> Dave-E wrote:
> > On Apr 8, 4:52 pm, "Manco" <manco doll...@net2blah . com > wrote:
> >> Albert D. Kallal wrote:
> >>> "Nobody" <nob...@nowhere . com > wrote in message
> >>>news:Xns990CA643B822FIDTOKENnobodyIDTOKEN@66.250.146.128...
> >>>> Entire race to run under yellow.
>
> >>> Yellows? You kidding. On a narrow and dangerous street course, we
> >>> run more laps under green then a IRL race runs on a oval. There is
> >>> simply no comparison to the skill and speed of these cars as
> >>> compared to the other folks that only worried about hiring good
> >>> looking women to drive. Considering the number of green laps on a
> >>> street course so far...... . it been rather amazing...
>
> >>> We had a few issues with the new car..but, then again..that was
> >>> expected....
>
> >> CART is inferior to IRL.
>
> > CART No longer exists. Get with the program. It's 2007.
>
> Ok, but back in 1995 CART was awesome....
Yep. That was the stuff back then. Unfortunately neither series is
anywhere these days.
Re: Vegas Snooze Fest - Rahal out before turn one
Manco wrote:
> Dave-E wrote:
>> On Apr 8, 4:52 pm, "Manco" <manco doll...@net2blah . com > wrote:
>>> Albert D. Kallal wrote:
>>>> "Nobody" <nob...@nowhere . com > wrote in message
>>>> news:Xns990CA643B822FIDTOKENnobodyIDTOKEN@66.250.146.128...
>>>>> Entire race to run under yellow.
>>>> Yellows? You kidding. On a narrow and dangerous street course, we
>>>> run more laps under green then a IRL race runs on a oval. There is
>>>> simply no comparison to the skill and speed of these cars as
>>>> compared to the other folks that only worried about hiring good
>>>> looking women to drive. Considering the number of green laps on a
>>>> street course so far...... . it been rather amazing...
>>>> We had a few issues with the new car..but, then again..that was
>>>> expected....
>>> CART is inferior to IRL.
>> CART No longer exists. Get with the program. It's 2007.
>
> Ok, but back in 1995 CART was awesome....
>
>
Yep. Then TG split open wheel and that ended the sport.
Manco wrote:
> Dave-E wrote:
>> On Apr 8, 4:52 pm, "Manco" <manco doll...@net2blah . com > wrote:
>>> Albert D. Kallal wrote:
>>>> "Nobody" <nob...@nowhere . com > wrote in message
>>>> news:Xns990CA643B822FIDTOKENnobodyIDTOKEN@66.250.146.128...
>>>>> Entire race to run under yellow.
>>>> Yellows? You kidding. On a narrow and dangerous street course, we
>>>> run more laps under green then a IRL race runs on a oval. There is
>>>> simply no comparison to the skill and speed of these cars as
>>>> compared to the other folks that only worried about hiring good
>>>> looking women to drive. Considering the number of green laps on a
>>>> street course so far...... . it been rather amazing...
>>>> We had a few issues with the new car..but, then again..that was
>>>> expected....
>>> CART is inferior to IRL.
>> CART No longer exists. Get with the program. It's 2007.
>
> Ok, but back in 1995 CART was awesome....
>
>
Yep. Then TG split open wheel and that ended the sport.
Re: Vegas Snooze Fest - Rahal out before turn one
Cessna 310 wrote:
> Yep. Then TG split open wheel and that ended the sport.
I bet he made a ton of cash in the last 10 years though.
Cessna 310 wrote:
> Yep. Then TG split open wheel and that ended the sport.
I bet he made a ton of cash in the last 10 years though.
Re: Vegas Snooze Fest - Rahal out before turn one
Manco wrote:
> Cessna 310 wrote:
>> Yep. Then TG split open wheel and that ended the sport.
>
> I bet he made a ton of cash in the last 10 years though.
>
>
In his case, cash is much less important than ego.
Manco wrote:
> Cessna 310 wrote:
>> Yep. Then TG split open wheel and that ended the sport.
>
> I bet he made a ton of cash in the last 10 years though.
>
>
In his case, cash is much less important than ego.
Re: Vegas Snooze Fest - Rahal out before turn one
Cessna 310 wrote:
>
> In his case, cash is much less important than ego.
SO he didn't make a killing from the split? In that case the guy is a real
wanker. Disgusting to think that CART's future was in the hands of one man.
Cessna 310 wrote:
>
> In his case, cash is much less important than ego.
SO he didn't make a killing from the split? In that case the guy is a real
wanker. Disgusting to think that CART's future was in the hands of one man.
Re: Vegas Snooze Fest - Rahal out before turn one
Manco wrote:
> Cessna 310 wrote:
>> In his case, cash is much less important than ego.
>
> SO he didn't make a killing from the split? In that case the guy is a real
> wanker. Disgusting to think that CART's future was in the hands of one man.
TG ruined open wheel in his efforts to control the sport. He divided
the teams and divided the fans. His ego didn't need an infusion of cash.
Manco wrote:
> Cessna 310 wrote:
>> In his case, cash is much less important than ego.
>
> SO he didn't make a killing from the split? In that case the guy is a real
> wanker. Disgusting to think that CART's future was in the hands of one man.
TG ruined open wheel in his efforts to control the sport. He divided
the teams and divided the fans. His ego didn't need an infusion of cash.
Re: Vegas Snooze Fest - Rahal out before turn one
On Mon, 09 Apr 2007 09:03:31 -0500, linux57 <linux570@charter . net > wrote:
> His ego didn't need an infusion of cash.
Nor has it received one. The last estimate I heard which was over
two years ago was that the IRL had cost him > 200M.
Bob
On Mon, 09 Apr 2007 09:03:31 -0500, linux57 <linux570@charter . net > wrote:
> His ego didn't need an infusion of cash.
Nor has it received one. The last estimate I heard which was over
two years ago was that the IRL had cost him > 200M.
Bob
Re: Vegas Snooze Fest - Rahal out before turn one
Robert Lorenzini wrote:
> On Mon, 09 Apr 2007 09:03:31 -0500, linux57 <linux570@charter . net > wrote:
>> His ego didn't need an infusion of cash.
>
> Nor has it received one. The last estimate I heard which was over
> two years ago was that the IRL had cost him > 200M.
>
>
> Bob
But the damage to open wheel racing as a result of the split cannot be
measured in just dollars that TG has spent chasing his ego. It goes to
the roots of racing - its fans.
I can think of no sport where the fans have been so turned away from a
sport except for possibly the loss of baseball fan interest after the
player's strike. There was a strong recovery from the baseball strike,
but IMO, not back to baseball's earlier popularity. With open wheel,
its been over ten years since the split and the sport has not shown
signs of recovering back to a fraction of its earlier popularity. The
Indy 500 typifies the problem. Such is the impact of the TG ego split.
Robert Lorenzini wrote:
> On Mon, 09 Apr 2007 09:03:31 -0500, linux57 <linux570@charter . net > wrote:
>> His ego didn't need an infusion of cash.
>
> Nor has it received one. The last estimate I heard which was over
> two years ago was that the IRL had cost him > 200M.
>
>
> Bob
But the damage to open wheel racing as a result of the split cannot be
measured in just dollars that TG has spent chasing his ego. It goes to
the roots of racing - its fans.
I can think of no sport where the fans have been so turned away from a
sport except for possibly the loss of baseball fan interest after the
player's strike. There was a strong recovery from the baseball strike,
but IMO, not back to baseball's earlier popularity. With open wheel,
its been over ten years since the split and the sport has not shown
signs of recovering back to a fraction of its earlier popularity. The
Indy 500 typifies the problem. Such is the impact of the TG ego split.
Re: Vegas Snooze Fest - Rahal out before turn one
linux57 wrote:
> Robert Lorenzini wrote:
>> On Mon, 09 Apr 2007 09:03:31 -0500, linux57 <linux570@charter . net > wrote:
>>> His ego didn't need an infusion of cash.
>>
>> Nor has it received one. The last estimate I heard which was over
>> two years ago was that the IRL had cost him > 200M.
>>
>>
>> Bob
>
> But the damage to open wheel racing as a result of the split cannot be
> measured in just dollars that TG has spent chasing his ego. It goes to
> the roots of racing - its fans.
>
> I can think of no sport where the fans have been so turned away from a
> sport except for possibly the loss of baseball fan interest after the
> player's strike. There was a strong recovery from the baseball strike,
> but IMO, not back to baseball's earlier popularity. With open wheel,
> its been over ten years since the split and the sport has not shown
> signs of recovering back to a fraction of its earlier popularity. The
> Indy 500 typifies the problem. Such is the impact of the TG ego split.
I don't think it matters to anybody in the IRL. The important thing
from the IRL viewpoint is to punish those that separated from USAC to
form CART. Nothing else matters until CART is completely destroyed.
Even at the expense of the sport.
linux57 wrote:
> Robert Lorenzini wrote:
>> On Mon, 09 Apr 2007 09:03:31 -0500, linux57 <linux570@charter . net > wrote:
>>> His ego didn't need an infusion of cash.
>>
>> Nor has it received one. The last estimate I heard which was over
>> two years ago was that the IRL had cost him > 200M.
>>
>>
>> Bob
>
> But the damage to open wheel racing as a result of the split cannot be
> measured in just dollars that TG has spent chasing his ego. It goes to
> the roots of racing - its fans.
>
> I can think of no sport where the fans have been so turned away from a
> sport except for possibly the loss of baseball fan interest after the
> player's strike. There was a strong recovery from the baseball strike,
> but IMO, not back to baseball's earlier popularity. With open wheel,
> its been over ten years since the split and the sport has not shown
> signs of recovering back to a fraction of its earlier popularity. The
> Indy 500 typifies the problem. Such is the impact of the TG ego split.
I don't think it matters to anybody in the IRL. The important thing
from the IRL viewpoint is to punish those that separated from USAC to
form CART. Nothing else matters until CART is completely destroyed.
Even at the expense of the sport.
Re: Vegas Snooze Fest - Rahal out before turn one
On Apr 9, 9:33 am, Robert Lorenzini <b...@newportharbornet . com > wrote:
> On Mon, 09 Apr 2007 09:03:31 -0500, linux57 <linux...@charter . net > wrote:
> > His ego didn't need an infusion of cash.
>
> Nor has it received one. The last estimate I heard which was over
> two years ago was that the IRL had cost him > 200M.
>
> Bob
I've heard upwards of 300m
Plus, 30m to set up the F1 track, what's the yearly F1 sanctioning
fee? 10M?
Talk about pissing up a rope.
On Apr 9, 9:33 am, Robert Lorenzini <b...@newportharbornet . com > wrote:
> On Mon, 09 Apr 2007 09:03:31 -0500, linux57 <linux...@charter . net > wrote:
> > His ego didn't need an infusion of cash.
>
> Nor has it received one. The last estimate I heard which was over
> two years ago was that the IRL had cost him > 200M.
>
> Bob
I've heard upwards of 300m
Plus, 30m to set up the F1 track, what's the yearly F1 sanctioning
fee? 10M?
Talk about pissing up a rope.
Re: Vegas Snooze Fest - Rahal out before turn one
On Apr 9, 11:39 am, "Dave-E" <davegt...@aol . com > wrote:
>
> I've heard upwards of 300m
>
> Plus, 30m to set up the F1 track, what's the yearly F1 sanctioning
> fee? 10M?
>
> Talk about pissing up a rope.
So, the old saying goes:
How do you make a small fortune in racing?
On Apr 9, 11:39 am, "Dave-E" <davegt...@aol . com > wrote:
>
> I've heard upwards of 300m
>
> Plus, 30m to set up the F1 track, what's the yearly F1 sanctioning
> fee? 10M?
>
> Talk about pissing up a rope.
So, the old saying goes:
How do you make a small fortune in racing?
