Add group to favorites
Back to post list
Send new message to group Search:
Post Subject:
Forsythe to Run Two Cars
Forsythe to Run Two Cars
HAMP CAR: Forsythe to Run Two Cars
Written by: RACER staff Indianapolis, Ind. - 3/29/2007
Despite team boss Gerald Forsythe's promise that his squad would run a
sole car for Paul Tracy if no funding could be found for a second
Champ Car World Series entry, his Forsythe Championship Racing team
has confirmed that it will announce a teammate for PT today.
The second driver is expected to be a Mexican, with David Martinez
leading the battle but even former FCR driver Mario Dominguez, who
split with the team after just four races last year following a crash
with Tracy at Milwaukee, is rumored to be under consideration.
http :// www .speedtv,com /articles/champcar/auto/36330/
HAMP CAR: Forsythe to Run Two Cars
Written by: RACER staff Indianapolis, Ind. - 3/29/2007
Despite team boss Gerald Forsythe's promise that his squad would run a
sole car for Paul Tracy if no funding could be found for a second
Champ Car World Series entry, his Forsythe Championship Racing team
has confirmed that it will announce a teammate for PT today.
The second driver is expected to be a Mexican, with David Martinez
leading the battle but even former FCR driver Mario Dominguez, who
split with the team after just four races last year following a crash
with Tracy at Milwaukee, is rumored to be under consideration.
http :// www .speedtv,com /articles/champcar/auto/36330/
Re: Forsythe to Run Two Cars
"Lenny" <haysooce@hotmail,com > wrote in message
news:1175182285.291874.140820@d57g2000hsg.googlegroups,com ...
> HAMP CAR: Forsythe to Run Two Cars
> Written by: RACER staff Indianapolis, Ind. - 3/29/2007
>
>
> Despite team boss Gerald Forsythe's promise that his squad would run a
> sole car for Paul Tracy if no funding could be found for a second
> Champ Car World Series entry, his Forsythe Championship Racing team
> has confirmed that it will announce a teammate for PT today.
>
> The second driver is expected to be a Mexican, with David Martinez
> leading the battle but even former FCR driver Mario Dominguez, who
> split with the team after just four races last year following a crash
> with Tracy at Milwaukee, is rumored to be under consideration.
>
> http :// www .speedtv,com /articles/champcar/auto/36330/
>
Good deal. More cars make for a better race.
"Lenny" <haysooce@hotmail,com > wrote in message
news:1175182285.291874.140820@d57g2000hsg.googlegroups,com ...
> HAMP CAR: Forsythe to Run Two Cars
> Written by: RACER staff Indianapolis, Ind. - 3/29/2007
>
>
> Despite team boss Gerald Forsythe's promise that his squad would run a
> sole car for Paul Tracy if no funding could be found for a second
> Champ Car World Series entry, his Forsythe Championship Racing team
> has confirmed that it will announce a teammate for PT today.
>
> The second driver is expected to be a Mexican, with David Martinez
> leading the battle but even former FCR driver Mario Dominguez, who
> split with the team after just four races last year following a crash
> with Tracy at Milwaukee, is rumored to be under consideration.
>
> http :// www .speedtv,com /articles/champcar/auto/36330/
>
Good deal. More cars make for a better race.
Re: Forsythe to Run Two Cars
On Mar 29, 11:41 am, "RickyBobby" <nasca...@cox,net > wrote:
> "Lenny" <hayso...@hotmail,com > wrote in message
>
> news:1175182285.291874.140820@d57g2000hsg.googlegroups,com ...
>
>
>
> > HAMP CAR: Forsythe to Run Two Cars
> > Written by: RACER staff Indianapolis, Ind. - 3/29/2007
>
> > Despite team boss Gerald Forsythe's promise that his squad would run a
> > sole car for Paul Tracy if no funding could be found for a second
> > Champ Car World Series entry, his Forsythe Championship Racing team
> > has confirmed that it will announce a teammate for PT today.
>
> > The second driver is expected to be a Mexican, with David Martinez
> > leading the battle but even former FCR driver Mario Dominguez, who
> > split with the team after just four races last year following a crash
> > with Tracy at Milwaukee, is rumored to be under consideration.
>
> > http :// www .speedtv,com /articles/champcar/auto/36330/
>
> Good deal. More cars make for a better race.
Ricky Bobby aren't you a Nascar fan and an IRL fan? Why would you
care about how many Champ Car starts? IRL=open wheel restrictor plate
racing Champ Car with the new car is not likely to have any pack
racing. More cars do not always make for a better race. Bristol is a
prime example. At one time Nascar started on 36 there. Now they
start 43 and have wrecks till the field is whittled down to 36 before
they can run any laps under green. Having 4 or 5 good cars and 16
moving chicanes is hardly much better than having a smaller field. It
can get really bad when the moving chicanes are totally unqualified.
On Mar 29, 11:41 am, "RickyBobby" <nasca...@cox,net > wrote:
> "Lenny" <hayso...@hotmail,com > wrote in message
>
> news:1175182285.291874.140820@d57g2000hsg.googlegroups,com ...
>
>
>
> > HAMP CAR: Forsythe to Run Two Cars
> > Written by: RACER staff Indianapolis, Ind. - 3/29/2007
>
> > Despite team boss Gerald Forsythe's promise that his squad would run a
> > sole car for Paul Tracy if no funding could be found for a second
> > Champ Car World Series entry, his Forsythe Championship Racing team
> > has confirmed that it will announce a teammate for PT today.
>
> > The second driver is expected to be a Mexican, with David Martinez
> > leading the battle but even former FCR driver Mario Dominguez, who
> > split with the team after just four races last year following a crash
> > with Tracy at Milwaukee, is rumored to be under consideration.
>
> > http :// www .speedtv,com /articles/champcar/auto/36330/
>
> Good deal. More cars make for a better race.
Ricky Bobby aren't you a Nascar fan and an IRL fan? Why would you
care about how many Champ Car starts? IRL=open wheel restrictor plate
racing Champ Car with the new car is not likely to have any pack
racing. More cars do not always make for a better race. Bristol is a
prime example. At one time Nascar started on 36 there. Now they
start 43 and have wrecks till the field is whittled down to 36 before
they can run any laps under green. Having 4 or 5 good cars and 16
moving chicanes is hardly much better than having a smaller field. It
can get really bad when the moving chicanes are totally unqualified.
Re: Forsythe to Run Two Cars
Mark wrote:
> On Mar 29, 11:41 am, "RickyBobby" <nasca...@cox,net > wrote:
>> "Lenny" <hayso...@hotmail,com > wrote in message
>>
>> news:1175182285.291874.140820@d57g2000hsg.googlegroups,com ...
>>
>>
>>
>>> HAMP CAR: Forsythe to Run Two Cars
>>> Written by: RACER staff Indianapolis, Ind. - 3/29/2007
>>> Despite team boss Gerald Forsythe's promise that his squad would run a
>>> sole car for Paul Tracy if no funding could be found for a second
>>> Champ Car World Series entry, his Forsythe Championship Racing team
>>> has confirmed that it will announce a teammate for PT today.
>>> The second driver is expected to be a Mexican, with David Martinez
>>> leading the battle but even former FCR driver Mario Dominguez, who
>>> split with the team after just four races last year following a crash
>>> with Tracy at Milwaukee, is rumored to be under consideration.
>>> http :// www .speedtv,com /articles/champcar/auto/36330/
>> Good deal. More cars make for a better race.
>
>
> Ricky Bobby aren't you a Nascar fan and an IRL fan? Why would you
> care about how many Champ Car starts? IRL=open wheel restrictor plate
> racing Champ Car with the new car is not likely to have any pack
> racing. More cars do not always make for a better race. Bristol is a
> prime example. At one time Nascar started on 36 there. Now they
> start 43 and have wrecks till the field is whittled down to 36 before
> they can run any laps under green. Having 4 or 5 good cars and 16
> moving chicanes is hardly much better than having a smaller field. It
> can get really bad when the moving chicanes are totally unqualified.
>
Maybe its just trying to bait up for a troll. He's a master at that.
Mark wrote:
> On Mar 29, 11:41 am, "RickyBobby" <nasca...@cox,net > wrote:
>> "Lenny" <hayso...@hotmail,com > wrote in message
>>
>> news:1175182285.291874.140820@d57g2000hsg.googlegroups,com ...
>>
>>
>>
>>> HAMP CAR: Forsythe to Run Two Cars
>>> Written by: RACER staff Indianapolis, Ind. - 3/29/2007
>>> Despite team boss Gerald Forsythe's promise that his squad would run a
>>> sole car for Paul Tracy if no funding could be found for a second
>>> Champ Car World Series entry, his Forsythe Championship Racing team
>>> has confirmed that it will announce a teammate for PT today.
>>> The second driver is expected to be a Mexican, with David Martinez
>>> leading the battle but even former FCR driver Mario Dominguez, who
>>> split with the team after just four races last year following a crash
>>> with Tracy at Milwaukee, is rumored to be under consideration.
>>> http :// www .speedtv,com /articles/champcar/auto/36330/
>> Good deal. More cars make for a better race.
>
>
> Ricky Bobby aren't you a Nascar fan and an IRL fan? Why would you
> care about how many Champ Car starts? IRL=open wheel restrictor plate
> racing Champ Car with the new car is not likely to have any pack
> racing. More cars do not always make for a better race. Bristol is a
> prime example. At one time Nascar started on 36 there. Now they
> start 43 and have wrecks till the field is whittled down to 36 before
> they can run any laps under green. Having 4 or 5 good cars and 16
> moving chicanes is hardly much better than having a smaller field. It
> can get really bad when the moving chicanes are totally unqualified.
>
Maybe its just trying to bait up for a troll. He's a master at that.
Re: Forsythe to Run Two Cars
On Mar 30, 12:26 am, Cessna 310 <jolene...@sbc,com > wrote:
> Mark wrote:
> > On Mar 29, 11:41 am, "RickyBobby" <nasca...@cox,net > wrote:
> >> "Lenny" <hayso...@hotmail,com > wrote in message
>
> >>news:1175182285.291874.140820@d57g2000hsg.googlegroups,com ...
>
> >>> HAMP CAR: Forsythe to Run Two Cars
> >>> Written by: RACER staff Indianapolis, Ind. - 3/29/2007
> >>> Despite team boss Gerald Forsythe's promise that his squad would run a
> >>> sole car for Paul Tracy if no funding could be found for a second
> >>> Champ Car World Series entry, his Forsythe Championship Racing team
> >>> has confirmed that it will announce a teammate for PT today.
> >>> The second driver is expected to be a Mexican, with David Martinez
> >>> leading the battle but even former FCR driver Mario Dominguez, who
> >>> split with the team after just four races last year following a crash
> >>> with Tracy at Milwaukee, is rumored to be under consideration.
> >>> http :// www .speedtv,com /articles/champcar/auto/36330/
> >> Good deal. More cars make for a better race.
>
> > Ricky Bobby aren't you a Nascar fan and an IRL fan? Why would you
> > care about how many Champ Car starts? IRL=open wheel restrictor plate
> > racing Champ Car with the new car is not likely to have any pack
> > racing. More cars do not always make for a better race. Bristol is a
> > prime example. At one time Nascar started on 36 there. Now they
> > start 43 and have wrecks till the field is whittled down to 36 before
> > they can run any laps under green. Having 4 or 5 good cars and 16
> > moving chicanes is hardly much better than having a smaller field. It
> > can get really bad when the moving chicanes are totally unqualified.
>
> Maybe its just trying to bait up for a troll. He's a master at that.
Master??? He is more like a 12 year old...Just because all the fools
here take his simpleminded bait doesn't make him a master -- just a
troll without a life.
On Mar 30, 12:26 am, Cessna 310 <jolene...@sbc,com > wrote:
> Mark wrote:
> > On Mar 29, 11:41 am, "RickyBobby" <nasca...@cox,net > wrote:
> >> "Lenny" <hayso...@hotmail,com > wrote in message
>
> >>news:1175182285.291874.140820@d57g2000hsg.googlegroups,com ...
>
> >>> HAMP CAR: Forsythe to Run Two Cars
> >>> Written by: RACER staff Indianapolis, Ind. - 3/29/2007
> >>> Despite team boss Gerald Forsythe's promise that his squad would run a
> >>> sole car for Paul Tracy if no funding could be found for a second
> >>> Champ Car World Series entry, his Forsythe Championship Racing team
> >>> has confirmed that it will announce a teammate for PT today.
> >>> The second driver is expected to be a Mexican, with David Martinez
> >>> leading the battle but even former FCR driver Mario Dominguez, who
> >>> split with the team after just four races last year following a crash
> >>> with Tracy at Milwaukee, is rumored to be under consideration.
> >>> http :// www .speedtv,com /articles/champcar/auto/36330/
> >> Good deal. More cars make for a better race.
>
> > Ricky Bobby aren't you a Nascar fan and an IRL fan? Why would you
> > care about how many Champ Car starts? IRL=open wheel restrictor plate
> > racing Champ Car with the new car is not likely to have any pack
> > racing. More cars do not always make for a better race. Bristol is a
> > prime example. At one time Nascar started on 36 there. Now they
> > start 43 and have wrecks till the field is whittled down to 36 before
> > they can run any laps under green. Having 4 or 5 good cars and 16
> > moving chicanes is hardly much better than having a smaller field. It
> > can get really bad when the moving chicanes are totally unqualified.
>
> Maybe its just trying to bait up for a troll. He's a master at that.
Master??? He is more like a 12 year old...Just because all the fools
here take his simpleminded bait doesn't make him a master -- just a
troll without a life.
Re: Forsythe to Run Two Cars
Lenny wrote:
> On Mar 30, 12:26 am, Cessna 310 <jolene...@sbc,com > wrote:
>> Mark wrote:
>>> On Mar 29, 11:41 am, "RickyBobby" <nasca...@cox,net > wrote:
>>>> "Lenny" <hayso...@hotmail,com > wrote in message
>>>> news:1175182285.291874.140820@d57g2000hsg.googlegroups,com ...
>>>>> HAMP CAR: Forsythe to Run Two Cars
>>>>> Written by: RACER staff Indianapolis, Ind. - 3/29/2007
>>>>> Despite team boss Gerald Forsythe's promise that his squad would run a
>>>>> sole car for Paul Tracy if no funding could be found for a second
>>>>> Champ Car World Series entry, his Forsythe Championship Racing team
>>>>> has confirmed that it will announce a teammate for PT today.
>>>>> The second driver is expected to be a Mexican, with David Martinez
>>>>> leading the battle but even former FCR driver Mario Dominguez, who
>>>>> split with the team after just four races last year following a crash
>>>>> with Tracy at Milwaukee, is rumored to be under consideration.
>>>>> http :// www .speedtv,com /articles/champcar/auto/36330/
>>>> Good deal. More cars make for a better race.
>>> Ricky Bobby aren't you a Nascar fan and an IRL fan? Why would you
>>> care about how many Champ Car starts? IRL=open wheel restrictor plate
>>> racing Champ Car with the new car is not likely to have any pack
>>> racing. More cars do not always make for a better race. Bristol is a
>>> prime example. At one time Nascar started on 36 there. Now they
>>> start 43 and have wrecks till the field is whittled down to 36 before
>>> they can run any laps under green. Having 4 or 5 good cars and 16
>>> moving chicanes is hardly much better than having a smaller field. It
>>> can get really bad when the moving chicanes are totally unqualified.
>> Maybe its just trying to bait up for a troll. He's a master at that.
>
> Master??? He is more like a 12 year old...Just because all the fools
> here take his simpleminded bait doesn't make him a master -- just a
> troll without a life.
>
>
Re-read. He's a master at baiting. That makes him....
Lenny wrote:
> On Mar 30, 12:26 am, Cessna 310 <jolene...@sbc,com > wrote:
>> Mark wrote:
>>> On Mar 29, 11:41 am, "RickyBobby" <nasca...@cox,net > wrote:
>>>> "Lenny" <hayso...@hotmail,com > wrote in message
>>>> news:1175182285.291874.140820@d57g2000hsg.googlegroups,com ...
>>>>> HAMP CAR: Forsythe to Run Two Cars
>>>>> Written by: RACER staff Indianapolis, Ind. - 3/29/2007
>>>>> Despite team boss Gerald Forsythe's promise that his squad would run a
>>>>> sole car for Paul Tracy if no funding could be found for a second
>>>>> Champ Car World Series entry, his Forsythe Championship Racing team
>>>>> has confirmed that it will announce a teammate for PT today.
>>>>> The second driver is expected to be a Mexican, with David Martinez
>>>>> leading the battle but even former FCR driver Mario Dominguez, who
>>>>> split with the team after just four races last year following a crash
>>>>> with Tracy at Milwaukee, is rumored to be under consideration.
>>>>> http :// www .speedtv,com /articles/champcar/auto/36330/
>>>> Good deal. More cars make for a better race.
>>> Ricky Bobby aren't you a Nascar fan and an IRL fan? Why would you
>>> care about how many Champ Car starts? IRL=open wheel restrictor plate
>>> racing Champ Car with the new car is not likely to have any pack
>>> racing. More cars do not always make for a better race. Bristol is a
>>> prime example. At one time Nascar started on 36 there. Now they
>>> start 43 and have wrecks till the field is whittled down to 36 before
>>> they can run any laps under green. Having 4 or 5 good cars and 16
>>> moving chicanes is hardly much better than having a smaller field. It
>>> can get really bad when the moving chicanes are totally unqualified.
>> Maybe its just trying to bait up for a troll. He's a master at that.
>
> Master??? He is more like a 12 year old...Just because all the fools
> here take his simpleminded bait doesn't make him a master -- just a
> troll without a life.
>
>
Re-read. He's a master at baiting. That makes him....
Re: Forsythe to Run Two Cars
On Mar 30, 8:36 am, Cessna 310 <jolene...@sbc,com > wrote:
> Lenny wrote:
> > On Mar 30, 12:26 am, Cessna 310 <jolene...@sbc,com > wrote:
> >> Mark wrote:
> >>> On Mar 29, 11:41 am, "RickyBobby" <nasca...@cox,net > wrote:
> >>>> "Lenny" <hayso...@hotmail,com > wrote in message
> >>>>news:1175182285.291874.140820@d57g2000hsg.googlegroups,com ...
> >>>>> HAMP CAR: Forsythe to Run Two Cars
> >>>>> Written by: RACER staff Indianapolis, Ind. - 3/29/2007
> >>>>> Despite team boss Gerald Forsythe's promise that his squad would run a
> >>>>> sole car for Paul Tracy if no funding could be found for a second
> >>>>> Champ Car World Series entry, his Forsythe Championship Racing team
> >>>>> has confirmed that it will announce a teammate for PT today.
> >>>>> The second driver is expected to be a Mexican, with David Martinez
> >>>>> leading the battle but even former FCR driver Mario Dominguez, who
> >>>>> split with the team after just four races last year following a crash
> >>>>> with Tracy at Milwaukee, is rumored to be under consideration.
> >>>>> http :// www .speedtv,com /articles/champcar/auto/36330/
> >>>> Good deal. More cars make for a better race.
> >>> Ricky Bobby aren't you a Nascar fan and an IRL fan? Why would you
> >>> care about how many Champ Car starts? IRL=open wheel restrictor plate
> >>> racing Champ Car with the new car is not likely to have any pack
> >>> racing. More cars do not always make for a better race. Bristol is a
> >>> prime example. At one time Nascar started on 36 there. Now they
> >>> start 43 and have wrecks till the field is whittled down to 36 before
> >>> they can run any laps under green. Having 4 or 5 good cars and 16
> >>> moving chicanes is hardly much better than having a smaller field. It
> >>> can get really bad when the moving chicanes are totally unqualified.
> >> Maybe its just trying to bait up for a troll. He's a master at that.
>
> > Master??? He is more like a 12 year old...Just because all the fools
> > here take his simpleminded bait doesn't make him a master -- just a
> > troll without a life.
>
> Re-read. He's a master at baiting. That makes him....
Yes, I get the old pun.
On Mar 30, 8:36 am, Cessna 310 <jolene...@sbc,com > wrote:
> Lenny wrote:
> > On Mar 30, 12:26 am, Cessna 310 <jolene...@sbc,com > wrote:
> >> Mark wrote:
> >>> On Mar 29, 11:41 am, "RickyBobby" <nasca...@cox,net > wrote:
> >>>> "Lenny" <hayso...@hotmail,com > wrote in message
> >>>>news:1175182285.291874.140820@d57g2000hsg.googlegroups,com ...
> >>>>> HAMP CAR: Forsythe to Run Two Cars
> >>>>> Written by: RACER staff Indianapolis, Ind. - 3/29/2007
> >>>>> Despite team boss Gerald Forsythe's promise that his squad would run a
> >>>>> sole car for Paul Tracy if no funding could be found for a second
> >>>>> Champ Car World Series entry, his Forsythe Championship Racing team
> >>>>> has confirmed that it will announce a teammate for PT today.
> >>>>> The second driver is expected to be a Mexican, with David Martinez
> >>>>> leading the battle but even former FCR driver Mario Dominguez, who
> >>>>> split with the team after just four races last year following a crash
> >>>>> with Tracy at Milwaukee, is rumored to be under consideration.
> >>>>> http :// www .speedtv,com /articles/champcar/auto/36330/
> >>>> Good deal. More cars make for a better race.
> >>> Ricky Bobby aren't you a Nascar fan and an IRL fan? Why would you
> >>> care about how many Champ Car starts? IRL=open wheel restrictor plate
> >>> racing Champ Car with the new car is not likely to have any pack
> >>> racing. More cars do not always make for a better race. Bristol is a
> >>> prime example. At one time Nascar started on 36 there. Now they
> >>> start 43 and have wrecks till the field is whittled down to 36 before
> >>> they can run any laps under green. Having 4 or 5 good cars and 16
> >>> moving chicanes is hardly much better than having a smaller field. It
> >>> can get really bad when the moving chicanes are totally unqualified.
> >> Maybe its just trying to bait up for a troll. He's a master at that.
>
> > Master??? He is more like a 12 year old...Just because all the fools
> > here take his simpleminded bait doesn't make him a master -- just a
> > troll without a life.
>
> Re-read. He's a master at baiting. That makes him....
Yes, I get the old pun.
Re: Forsythe to Run Two Cars
"Cessna 310" <jolene310@sbc,com > wrote in message
news:gk0Ph.551$vJ5.219@newsfe12.lga...
> Mark wrote:
>> On Mar 29, 11:41 am, "RickyBobby" <nasca...@cox,net > wrote:
>>> "Lenny" <hayso...@hotmail,com > wrote in message
>>>
>>> news:1175182285.291874.140820@d57g2000hsg.googlegroups,com ...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> HAMP CAR: Forsythe to Run Two Cars
>>>> Written by: RACER staff Indianapolis, Ind. - 3/29/2007
>>>> Despite team boss Gerald Forsythe's promise that his squad would run a
>>>> sole car for Paul Tracy if no funding could be found for a second
>>>> Champ Car World Series entry, his Forsythe Championship Racing team
>>>> has confirmed that it will announce a teammate for PT today.
>>>> The second driver is expected to be a Mexican, with David Martinez
>>>> leading the battle but even former FCR driver Mario Dominguez, who
>>>> split with the team after just four races last year following a crash
>>>> with Tracy at Milwaukee, is rumored to be under consideration.
>>>> http :// www .speedtv,com /articles/champcar/auto/36330/
>>> Good deal. More cars make for a better race.
>>
>>
>> Ricky Bobby aren't you a Nascar fan and an IRL fan? Why would you
>> care about how many Champ Car starts? IRL=open wheel restrictor plate
>> racing Champ Car with the new car is not likely to have any pack
>> racing. More cars do not always make for a better race. Bristol is a
>> prime example. At one time Nascar started on 36 there. Now they
>> start 43 and have wrecks till the field is whittled down to 36 before
>> they can run any laps under green. Having 4 or 5 good cars and 16
>> moving chicanes is hardly much better than having a smaller field. It
>> can get really bad when the moving chicanes are totally unqualified.
>>
>
> Maybe its just trying to bait up for a troll. He's a master at that.
>
>
Nah, that is child's play. I just have my own opinions and do not mind
sharing them from time to time.
"Cessna 310" <jolene310@sbc,com > wrote in message
news:gk0Ph.551$vJ5.219@newsfe12.lga...
> Mark wrote:
>> On Mar 29, 11:41 am, "RickyBobby" <nasca...@cox,net > wrote:
>>> "Lenny" <hayso...@hotmail,com > wrote in message
>>>
>>> news:1175182285.291874.140820@d57g2000hsg.googlegroups,com ...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> HAMP CAR: Forsythe to Run Two Cars
>>>> Written by: RACER staff Indianapolis, Ind. - 3/29/2007
>>>> Despite team boss Gerald Forsythe's promise that his squad would run a
>>>> sole car for Paul Tracy if no funding could be found for a second
>>>> Champ Car World Series entry, his Forsythe Championship Racing team
>>>> has confirmed that it will announce a teammate for PT today.
>>>> The second driver is expected to be a Mexican, with David Martinez
>>>> leading the battle but even former FCR driver Mario Dominguez, who
>>>> split with the team after just four races last year following a crash
>>>> with Tracy at Milwaukee, is rumored to be under consideration.
>>>> http :// www .speedtv,com /articles/champcar/auto/36330/
>>> Good deal. More cars make for a better race.
>>
>>
>> Ricky Bobby aren't you a Nascar fan and an IRL fan? Why would you
>> care about how many Champ Car starts? IRL=open wheel restrictor plate
>> racing Champ Car with the new car is not likely to have any pack
>> racing. More cars do not always make for a better race. Bristol is a
>> prime example. At one time Nascar started on 36 there. Now they
>> start 43 and have wrecks till the field is whittled down to 36 before
>> they can run any laps under green. Having 4 or 5 good cars and 16
>> moving chicanes is hardly much better than having a smaller field. It
>> can get really bad when the moving chicanes are totally unqualified.
>>
>
> Maybe its just trying to bait up for a troll. He's a master at that.
>
>
Nah, that is child's play. I just have my own opinions and do not mind
sharing them from time to time.
Re: Forsythe to Run Two Cars
On 29 Mar 2007 21:01:25 -0700, "Mark" <mblackwell1958@yahoo,com >
wrote:
>On Mar 29, 11:41 am, "RickyBobby" <nasca...@cox,net > wrote:
>> "Lenny" <hayso...@hotmail,com > wrote in message
>>
>> news:1175182285.291874.140820@d57g2000hsg.googlegroups,com ...
>>
>>
>>
>> > HAMP CAR: Forsythe to Run Two Cars
>> > Written by: RACER staff Indianapolis, Ind. - 3/29/2007
>>
>> > Despite team boss Gerald Forsythe's promise that his squad would run a
>> > sole car for Paul Tracy if no funding could be found for a second
>> > Champ Car World Series entry, his Forsythe Championship Racing team
>> > has confirmed that it will announce a teammate for PT today.
>>
>> > The second driver is expected to be a Mexican, with David Martinez
>> > leading the battle but even former FCR driver Mario Dominguez, who
>> > split with the team after just four races last year following a crash
>> > with Tracy at Milwaukee, is rumored to be under consideration.
>>
>> > http :// www .speedtv,com /articles/champcar/auto/36330/
>>
>> Good deal. More cars make for a better race.
>
>
>Ricky Bobby aren't you a Nascar fan and an IRL fan? Why would you
>care about how many Champ Car starts? IRL=open wheel restrictor plate
>racing Champ Car with the new car is not likely to have any pack
>racing. More cars do not always make for a better race. Bristol is a
>prime example. At one time Nascar started on 36 there. Now they
>start 43 and have wrecks till the field is whittled down to 36 before
>they can run any laps under green. Having 4 or 5 good cars and 16
>moving chicanes is hardly much better than having a smaller field. It
>can get really bad when the moving chicanes are totally unqualified.
Ricky don't do logic. :-)
On 29 Mar 2007 21:01:25 -0700, "Mark" <mblackwell1958@yahoo,com >
wrote:
>On Mar 29, 11:41 am, "RickyBobby" <nasca...@cox,net > wrote:
>> "Lenny" <hayso...@hotmail,com > wrote in message
>>
>> news:1175182285.291874.140820@d57g2000hsg.googlegroups,com ...
>>
>>
>>
>> > HAMP CAR: Forsythe to Run Two Cars
>> > Written by: RACER staff Indianapolis, Ind. - 3/29/2007
>>
>> > Despite team boss Gerald Forsythe's promise that his squad would run a
>> > sole car for Paul Tracy if no funding could be found for a second
>> > Champ Car World Series entry, his Forsythe Championship Racing team
>> > has confirmed that it will announce a teammate for PT today.
>>
>> > The second driver is expected to be a Mexican, with David Martinez
>> > leading the battle but even former FCR driver Mario Dominguez, who
>> > split with the team after just four races last year following a crash
>> > with Tracy at Milwaukee, is rumored to be under consideration.
>>
>> > http :// www .speedtv,com /articles/champcar/auto/36330/
>>
>> Good deal. More cars make for a better race.
>
>
>Ricky Bobby aren't you a Nascar fan and an IRL fan? Why would you
>care about how many Champ Car starts? IRL=open wheel restrictor plate
>racing Champ Car with the new car is not likely to have any pack
>racing. More cars do not always make for a better race. Bristol is a
>prime example. At one time Nascar started on 36 there. Now they
>start 43 and have wrecks till the field is whittled down to 36 before
>they can run any laps under green. Having 4 or 5 good cars and 16
>moving chicanes is hardly much better than having a smaller field. It
>can get really bad when the moving chicanes are totally unqualified.
Ricky don't do logic. :-)
Re: Forsythe to Run Two Cars
"Mark" <mblackwell1958@yahoo,com > wrote in message
news:1175227284.888299.119630@y80g2000hsf.googlegroups,com ...
> On Mar 29, 11:41 am, "RickyBobby" <nasca...@cox,net > wrote:
>> "Lenny" <hayso...@hotmail,com > wrote in message
>>
>> news:1175182285.291874.140820@d57g2000hsg.googlegroups,com ...
>>
>>
>>
>> > HAMP CAR: Forsythe to Run Two Cars
>> > Written by: RACER staff Indianapolis, Ind. - 3/29/2007
>>
>> > Despite team boss Gerald Forsythe's promise that his squad would run a
>> > sole car for Paul Tracy if no funding could be found for a second
>> > Champ Car World Series entry, his Forsythe Championship Racing team
>> > has confirmed that it will announce a teammate for PT today.
>>
>> > The second driver is expected to be a Mexican, with David Martinez
>> > leading the battle but even former FCR driver Mario Dominguez, who
>> > split with the team after just four races last year following a crash
>> > with Tracy at Milwaukee, is rumored to be under consideration.
>>
>> > http :// www .speedtv,com /articles/champcar/auto/36330/
>>
>> Good deal. More cars make for a better race.
>
>
> Ricky Bobby aren't you a Nascar fan and an IRL fan? Why would you
> care about how many Champ Car starts? IRL=open wheel restrictor plate
> racing Champ Car with the new car is not likely to have any pack
> racing. More cars do not always make for a better race. Bristol is a
> prime example. At one time Nascar started on 36 there. Now they
> start 43 and have wrecks till the field is whittled down to 36 before
> they can run any laps under green. Having 4 or 5 good cars and 16
> moving chicanes is hardly much better than having a smaller field. It
> can get really bad when the moving chicanes are totally unqualified.
>
NASCAR first and foremost. IRL second and OWRS third. There are a lot of
other significant motorsports but I only choose to make time for those
three. I know there are people who can go on and on about how F1 is the
pinnacle of motorsports and I totally agree but I do not follow that one
very closely or hardly at all. Too much electronics and team orders and
politics.
The reason that I contend that more cars on the grid is generally better is
that one never knows which driver can make a name for himself or herself
until they get out there and give it a go. Some turn out to be Sebastien and
some turn out to be Bruno. That is why they run the races.
"Mark" <mblackwell1958@yahoo,com > wrote in message
news:1175227284.888299.119630@y80g2000hsf.googlegroups,com ...
> On Mar 29, 11:41 am, "RickyBobby" <nasca...@cox,net > wrote:
>> "Lenny" <hayso...@hotmail,com > wrote in message
>>
>> news:1175182285.291874.140820@d57g2000hsg.googlegroups,com ...
>>
>>
>>
>> > HAMP CAR: Forsythe to Run Two Cars
>> > Written by: RACER staff Indianapolis, Ind. - 3/29/2007
>>
>> > Despite team boss Gerald Forsythe's promise that his squad would run a
>> > sole car for Paul Tracy if no funding could be found for a second
>> > Champ Car World Series entry, his Forsythe Championship Racing team
>> > has confirmed that it will announce a teammate for PT today.
>>
>> > The second driver is expected to be a Mexican, with David Martinez
>> > leading the battle but even former FCR driver Mario Dominguez, who
>> > split with the team after just four races last year following a crash
>> > with Tracy at Milwaukee, is rumored to be under consideration.
>>
>> > http :// www .speedtv,com /articles/champcar/auto/36330/
>>
>> Good deal. More cars make for a better race.
>
>
> Ricky Bobby aren't you a Nascar fan and an IRL fan? Why would you
> care about how many Champ Car starts? IRL=open wheel restrictor plate
> racing Champ Car with the new car is not likely to have any pack
> racing. More cars do not always make for a better race. Bristol is a
> prime example. At one time Nascar started on 36 there. Now they
> start 43 and have wrecks till the field is whittled down to 36 before
> they can run any laps under green. Having 4 or 5 good cars and 16
> moving chicanes is hardly much better than having a smaller field. It
> can get really bad when the moving chicanes are totally unqualified.
>
NASCAR first and foremost. IRL second and OWRS third. There are a lot of
other significant motorsports but I only choose to make time for those
three. I know there are people who can go on and on about how F1 is the
pinnacle of motorsports and I totally agree but I do not follow that one
very closely or hardly at all. Too much electronics and team orders and
politics.
The reason that I contend that more cars on the grid is generally better is
that one never knows which driver can make a name for himself or herself
until they get out there and give it a go. Some turn out to be Sebastien and
some turn out to be Bruno. That is why they run the races.
Re: Forsythe to Run Two Cars
On Mar 30, 11:11 am, "RickyBobby" <nasca...@cox,net > wrote:
> "Mark" <mblackwell1...@yahoo,com > wrote in message
>
> news:1175227284.888299.119630@y80g2000hsf.googlegroups,com ...
>
>
>
> > On Mar 29, 11:41 am, "RickyBobby" <nasca...@cox,net > wrote:
> >> "Lenny" <hayso...@hotmail,com > wrote in message
>
> >>news:1175182285.291874.140820@d57g2000hsg.googlegroups,com ...
>
> >> > HAMP CAR: Forsythe to Run Two Cars
> >> > Written by: RACER staff Indianapolis, Ind. - 3/29/2007
>
> >> > Despite team boss Gerald Forsythe's promise that his squad would run a
> >> > sole car for Paul Tracy if no funding ,ould be found for a second
> >> > Champ Car World Series entry, his Forsythe Championship Racing team
> >> > has confirmed that it will announce a teammate for PT today.
>
> >> > The second driver is expected to be a Mexican, with David Martinez
> >> > leading the battle but even former FCR driver Mario Dominguez, who
> >> > split with the team after just four races last year following a crash
> >> > with Tracy at Milwaukee, is rumored to be under consideration.
>
> >> > http :// www .speedtv,com /articles/champcar/auto/36330/
>
> >> Good deal. More cars make for a better race.
>
> > Ricky Bobby aren't you a Nascar fan and an IRL fan? Why would you
> > care about how many Champ Car starts? IRL=open wheel restrictor plate
> > racing Champ Car with the new car is not likely to have any pack
> > racing. More cars do not always make for a better race. Bristol is a
> > prime example. At one time Nascar started on 36 there. Now they
> > start 43 and have wrecks till the field is whittled down to 36 before
> > they can run any laps under green. Having 4 or 5 good cars and 16
> > moving chicanes is hardly much better than having a smaller field. It
> > can get really bad when the moving chicanes are totally unqualified.
>
> NASCAR first and foremost. IRL second and OWRS third. There are a lot of
> other significant motorsports but I only choose to make time for those
> three. I know there are people who can go on and on about how F1 is the
> pinnacle of motorsports and I totally agree but I do not follow that one
> very closely or hardly at all. Too much electronics and team orders and
> politics.
>
> The reason that I contend that more cars on the grid is generally better is
> that one never knows which driver can make a name for himself or herself
> until they get out there and give it a go. Some turn out to be Sebastien and
> some turn out to be Bruno. That is why they run the races.
Putting junk on the track does no one any good. Nascar ruins many
races by letting wrecked race cars get in the way of the unwrecked
race cars riding around slow getting in the way trying to get points
for being medicore or down right bad. The I stunk, but I didn't stink
as bad as that guy is rewarded with Nascar with championship points.
Worse than that those same wrecked race cars that could easily be
forced to stay in the garage after being wrecked, drop debris to cause
yellows that change to course of a race. Nascar admits now they ain't
in the racing business though. They are in the entertainment business
and will sell the sport and the fans short in the name of the show
forget real competion. The only reason they stuff more cars on the
track is that there are more billboard to roll around, which is
exactly why they let those wrecked race cars drop debris all over the
track. It gets the wrecked race cars on TV. Tv time means money. IF
Nascar thought they could get away with starting 50 cars they would do
it in a second.
The IRL is beyond discussion. It is so low its beyond contempt. It
was founded annoucing a series of princples and reasons for its
formation, ALL of which are now being totally ignored. Twice its sent
the wrong winner to victory lane, once they even admitted it. Talent
has gone down with only a few drivers really being of the level that
would justify them being at that level, and some of those are aging
and entering the twilight of their careers. IF they let Al Jr drive
at Indy this year, it would be the ultimate insult to a once proud
race. Instead now the big annoucement is the adding of Milka Duno.
As a photographer I can spot beauty and she definately qualifies
there, but look at just how many laps the team lets her drive in
sports cars. In one of her endurance race wins, the team let her
drive a grand total of 14 laps. The speedway was even talking about
extra practice to get her up to speed. The Indy I knew cut no extra
slack to anyone. It was not a training ground. If you made the field
you could make an honest claim to being one of the best. No more.
With the likes of Dr. Jack Miller, Racin Gardner, 00 Joe, Jimmy (I
never saw a wall I didn't hit) Kite and of course tattoo, the talent
level is like entering a plow mule into the Kentucky Derby. Only
thing is in the Derby the plow mule is laughed at. At Indy its
cheered, at least by those that don't bother to look and see they are
really cheering for the south end of a north bound donkey.
The real Indy 500 had the front grandstands packed both pole and bump
day. Yes then they were real bumps without having to try to change
the rules to make bumps (hmm remember something about protecting the
traditions of the month of May) with rule changes. The real Indy 500
took the fastest 33. If you weren't up to speed, you didn't make it
including defending champions.
The IRL was really nothing more than a thinly veiled hostile take over
attempt that went very wrong. You dogged Bruno. Guess what. He ran
an IRL race in late May once. With little testing in a car that was
his first race in it, he was in contention for winning the IRL's
superbowl, till one AJ IV came down on him while being lapped, sent
them both into the wall. It was Bruno that wound up in Methodist with
a broken back. You do remember that don't you Ricky?? Every time a
Champ Car team or driver has competed in the 500, they for the most
part of run up front. One JPM said the cars were so easy to drive his
grandmother could drive won, then backed it up with a win. Again with
little test time, in a strange car that beat all the regulars which
should have had a big advantage.
Champ car has made its share of dumb moves too, but nothing even close
to the sleezy on which the IRL is based.
On Mar 30, 11:11 am, "RickyBobby" <nasca...@cox,net > wrote:
> "Mark" <mblackwell1...@yahoo,com > wrote in message
>
> news:1175227284.888299.119630@y80g2000hsf.googlegroups,com ...
>
>
>
> > On Mar 29, 11:41 am, "RickyBobby" <nasca...@cox,net > wrote:
> >> "Lenny" <hayso...@hotmail,com > wrote in message
>
> >>news:1175182285.291874.140820@d57g2000hsg.googlegroups,com ...
>
> >> > HAMP CAR: Forsythe to Run Two Cars
> >> > Written by: RACER staff Indianapolis, Ind. - 3/29/2007
>
> >> > Despite team boss Gerald Forsythe's promise that his squad would run a
> >> > sole car for Paul Tracy if no funding ,ould be found for a second
> >> > Champ Car World Series entry, his Forsythe Championship Racing team
> >> > has confirmed that it will announce a teammate for PT today.
>
> >> > The second driver is expected to be a Mexican, with David Martinez
> >> > leading the battle but even former FCR driver Mario Dominguez, who
> >> > split with the team after just four races last year following a crash
> >> > with Tracy at Milwaukee, is rumored to be under consideration.
>
> >> > http :// www .speedtv,com /articles/champcar/auto/36330/
>
> >> Good deal. More cars make for a better race.
>
> > Ricky Bobby aren't you a Nascar fan and an IRL fan? Why would you
> > care about how many Champ Car starts? IRL=open wheel restrictor plate
> > racing Champ Car with the new car is not likely to have any pack
> > racing. More cars do not always make for a better race. Bristol is a
> > prime example. At one time Nascar started on 36 there. Now they
> > start 43 and have wrecks till the field is whittled down to 36 before
> > they can run any laps under green. Having 4 or 5 good cars and 16
> > moving chicanes is hardly much better than having a smaller field. It
> > can get really bad when the moving chicanes are totally unqualified.
>
> NASCAR first and foremost. IRL second and OWRS third. There are a lot of
> other significant motorsports but I only choose to make time for those
> three. I know there are people who can go on and on about how F1 is the
> pinnacle of motorsports and I totally agree but I do not follow that one
> very closely or hardly at all. Too much electronics and team orders and
> politics.
>
> The reason that I contend that more cars on the grid is generally better is
> that one never knows which driver can make a name for himself or herself
> until they get out there and give it a go. Some turn out to be Sebastien and
> some turn out to be Bruno. That is why they run the races.
Putting junk on the track does no one any good. Nascar ruins many
races by letting wrecked race cars get in the way of the unwrecked
race cars riding around slow getting in the way trying to get points
for being medicore or down right bad. The I stunk, but I didn't stink
as bad as that guy is rewarded with Nascar with championship points.
Worse than that those same wrecked race cars that could easily be
forced to stay in the garage after being wrecked, drop debris to cause
yellows that change to course of a race. Nascar admits now they ain't
in the racing business though. They are in the entertainment business
and will sell the sport and the fans short in the name of the show
forget real competion. The only reason they stuff more cars on the
track is that there are more billboard to roll around, which is
exactly why they let those wrecked race cars drop debris all over the
track. It gets the wrecked race cars on TV. Tv time means money. IF
Nascar thought they could get away with starting 50 cars they would do
it in a second.
The IRL is beyond discussion. It is so low its beyond contempt. It
was founded annoucing a series of princples and reasons for its
formation, ALL of which are now being totally ignored. Twice its sent
the wrong winner to victory lane, once they even admitted it. Talent
has gone down with only a few drivers really being of the level that
would justify them being at that level, and some of those are aging
and entering the twilight of their careers. IF they let Al Jr drive
at Indy this year, it would be the ultimate insult to a once proud
race. Instead now the big annoucement is the adding of Milka Duno.
As a photographer I can spot beauty and she definately qualifies
there, but look at just how many laps the team lets her drive in
sports cars. In one of her endurance race wins, the team let her
drive a grand total of 14 laps. The speedway was even talking about
extra practice to get her up to speed. The Indy I knew cut no extra
slack to anyone. It was not a training ground. If you made the field
you could make an honest claim to being one of the best. No more.
With the likes of Dr. Jack Miller, Racin Gardner, 00 Joe, Jimmy (I
never saw a wall I didn't hit) Kite and of course tattoo, the talent
level is like entering a plow mule into the Kentucky Derby. Only
thing is in the Derby the plow mule is laughed at. At Indy its
cheered, at least by those that don't bother to look and see they are
really cheering for the south end of a north bound donkey.
The real Indy 500 had the front grandstands packed both pole and bump
day. Yes then they were real bumps without having to try to change
the rules to make bumps (hmm remember something about protecting the
traditions of the month of May) with rule changes. The real Indy 500
took the fastest 33. If you weren't up to speed, you didn't make it
including defending champions.
The IRL was really nothing more than a thinly veiled hostile take over
attempt that went very wrong. You dogged Bruno. Guess what. He ran
an IRL race in late May once. With little testing in a car that was
his first race in it, he was in contention for winning the IRL's
superbowl, till one AJ IV came down on him while being lapped, sent
them both into the wall. It was Bruno that wound up in Methodist with
a broken back. You do remember that don't you Ricky?? Every time a
Champ Car team or driver has competed in the 500, they for the most
part of run up front. One JPM said the cars were so easy to drive his
grandmother could drive won, then backed it up with a win. Again with
little test time, in a strange car that beat all the regulars which
should have had a big advantage.
Champ car has made its share of dumb moves too, but nothing even close
to the sleezy on which the IRL is based.
Re: Forsythe to Run Two Cars
"Mark" <mblackwell1958@yahoo,com > wrote in message
news:1175316775.451286.292610@l77g2000hsb.googlegroups,com ...
> On Mar 30, 11:11 am, "RickyBobby" <nasca...@cox,net > wrote:
>> "Mark" <mblackwell1...@yahoo,com > wrote in message
>>
>> news:1175227284.888299.119630@y80g2000hsf.googlegroups,com ...
>>
>>
>>
>> > On Mar 29, 11:41 am, "RickyBobby" <nasca...@cox,net > wrote:
>> >> "Lenny" <hayso...@hotmail,com > wrote in message
>>
>> >>news:1175182285.291874.140820@d57g2000hsg.googlegroups,com ...
>>
>> >> > HAMP CAR: Forsythe to Run Two Cars
>> >> > Written by: RACER staff Indianapolis, Ind. - 3/29/2007
>>
>> >> > Despite team boss Gerald Forsythe's promise that his squad would run
>> >> > a
>> >> > sole car for Paul Tracy if no funding ,ould be found for a second
>> >> > Champ Car World Series entry, his Forsythe Championship Racing team
>> >> > has confirmed that it will announce a teammate for PT today.
>>
>> >> > The second driver is expected to be a Mexican, with David Martinez
>> >> > leading the battle but even former FCR driver Mario Dominguez, who
>> >> > split with the team after just four races last year following a
>> >> > crash
>> >> > with Tracy at Milwaukee, is rumored to be under consideration.
>>
>> >> > http :// www .speedtv,com /articles/champcar/auto/36330/
>>
>> >> Good deal. More cars make for a better race.
>>
>> > Ricky Bobby aren't you a Nascar fan and an IRL fan? Why would you
>> > care about how many Champ Car starts? IRL=open wheel restrictor plate
>> > racing Champ Car with the new car is not likely to have any pack
>> > racing. More cars do not always make for a better race. Bristol is a
>> > prime example. At one time Nascar started on 36 there. Now they
>> > start 43 and have wrecks till the field is whittled down to 36 before
>> > they can run any laps under green. Having 4 or 5 good cars and 16
>> > moving chicanes is hardly much better than having a smaller field. It
>> > can get really bad when the moving chicanes are totally unqualified.
>>
>> NASCAR first and foremost. IRL second and OWRS third. There are a lot
>> of
>> other significant motorsports but I only choose to make time for those
>> three. I know there are people who can go on and on about how F1 is the
>> pinnacle of motorsports and I totally agree but I do not follow that one
>> very closely or hardly at all. Too much electronics and team orders and
>> politics.
>>
>> The reason that I contend that more cars on the grid is generally better
>> is
>> that one never knows which driver can make a name for himself or herself
>> until they get out there and give it a go. Some turn out to be Sebastien
>> and
>> some turn out to be Bruno. That is why they run the races.
>
>
>
> Putting junk on the track does no one any good. Nascar ruins many
> races by letting wrecked race cars get in the way of the unwrecked
> race cars riding around slow getting in the way trying to get points
> for being medicore or down right bad. The I stunk, but I didn't stink
> as bad as that guy is rewarded with Nascar with championship points.
> Worse than that those same wrecked race cars that could easily be
> forced to stay in the garage after being wrecked, drop debris to cause
> yellows that change to course of a race. Nascar admits now they ain't
> in the racing business though. They are in the entertainment business
> and will sell the sport and the fans short in the name of the show
> forget real competion. The only reason they stuff more cars on the
> track is that there are more billboard to roll around, which is
> exactly why they let those wrecked race cars drop debris all over the
> track. It gets the wrecked race cars on TV. Tv time means money. IF
> Nascar thought they could get away with starting 50 cars they would do
> it in a second.
>
> The IRL is beyond discussion. It is so low its beyond contempt. It
> was founded annoucing a series of princples and reasons for its
> formation, ALL of which are now being totally ignored. Twice its sent
> the wrong winner to victory lane, once they even admitted it. Talent
> has gone down with only a few drivers really being of the level that
> would justify them being at that level, and some of those are aging
> and entering the twilight of their careers. IF they let Al Jr drive
> at Indy this year, it would be the ultimate insult to a once proud
> race. Instead now the big annoucement is the adding of Milka Duno.
> As a photographer I can spot beauty and she definately qualifies
> there, but look at just how many laps the team lets her drive in
> sports cars. In one of her endurance race wins, the team let her
> drive a grand total of 14 laps. The speedway was even talking about
> extra practice to get her up to speed. The Indy I knew cut no extra
> slack to anyone. It was not a training ground. If you made the field
> you could make an honest claim to being one of the best. No more.
> With the likes of Dr. Jack Miller, Racin Gardner, 00 Joe, Jimmy (I
> never saw a wall I didn't hit) Kite and of course tattoo, the talent
> level is like entering a plow mule into the Kentucky Derby. Only
> thing is in the Derby the plow mule is laughed at. At Indy its
> cheered, at least by those that don't bother to look and see they are
> really cheering for the south end of a north bound donkey.
>
> The real Indy 500 had the front grandstands packed both pole and bump
> day. Yes then they were real bumps without having to try to change
> the rules to make bumps (hmm remember something about protecting the
> traditions of the month of May) with rule changes. The real Indy 500
> took the fastest 33. If you weren't up to speed, you didn't make it
> including defending champions.
>
> The IRL was really nothing more than a thinly veiled hostile take over
> attempt that went very wrong. You dogged Bruno. Guess what. He ran
> an IRL race in late May once. With little testing in a car that was
> his first race in it, he was in contention for winning the IRL's
> superbowl, till one AJ IV came down on him while being lapped, sent
> them both into the wall. It was Bruno that wound up in Methodist with
> a broken back. You do remember that don't you Ricky?? Every time a
> Champ Car team or driver has competed in the 500, they for the most
> part of run up front. One JPM said the cars were so easy to drive his
> grandmother could drive won, then backed it up with a win. Again with
> little test time, in a strange car that beat all the regulars which
> should have had a big advantage.
>
> Champ car has made its share of dumb moves too, but nothing even close
> to the sleezy on which the IRL is based.
>
You are comparing different things. In open wheel racing every car that
pays the entry fee is assured a spot on the grid. The only exception is the
Indy 500 where they have to time trial their way in.
In NASCAR there are always more cars trying to qualify than spaces on the
grid. As a result, every spot is guaranteed some point just for making the
race. That is why you may see somewhat damaged cars trying to make laps in
order to pick up some small number of points due to attrition.
The NASCAR fans do not mind seeing cars with no bumpers or fenders or hoods
running because it reminds them of their yard cars they see every day.
"Mark" <mblackwell1958@yahoo,com > wrote in message
news:1175316775.451286.292610@l77g2000hsb.googlegroups,com ...
> On Mar 30, 11:11 am, "RickyBobby" <nasca...@cox,net > wrote:
>> "Mark" <mblackwell1...@yahoo,com > wrote in message
>>
>> news:1175227284.888299.119630@y80g2000hsf.googlegroups,com ...
>>
>>
>>
>> > On Mar 29, 11:41 am, "RickyBobby" <nasca...@cox,net > wrote:
>> >> "Lenny" <hayso...@hotmail,com > wrote in message
>>
>> >>news:1175182285.291874.140820@d57g2000hsg.googlegroups,com ...
>>
>> >> > HAMP CAR: Forsythe to Run Two Cars
>> >> > Written by: RACER staff Indianapolis, Ind. - 3/29/2007
>>
>> >> > Despite team boss Gerald Forsythe's promise that his squad would run
>> >> > a
>> >> > sole car for Paul Tracy if no funding ,ould be found for a second
>> >> > Champ Car World Series entry, his Forsythe Championship Racing team
>> >> > has confirmed that it will announce a teammate for PT today.
>>
>> >> > The second driver is expected to be a Mexican, with David Martinez
>> >> > leading the battle but even former FCR driver Mario Dominguez, who
>> >> > split with the team after just four races last year following a
>> >> > crash
>> >> > with Tracy at Milwaukee, is rumored to be under consideration.
>>
>> >> > http :// www .speedtv,com /articles/champcar/auto/36330/
>>
>> >> Good deal. More cars make for a better race.
>>
>> > Ricky Bobby aren't you a Nascar fan and an IRL fan? Why would you
>> > care about how many Champ Car starts? IRL=open wheel restrictor plate
>> > racing Champ Car with the new car is not likely to have any pack
>> > racing. More cars do not always make for a better race. Bristol is a
>> > prime example. At one time Nascar started on 36 there. Now they
>> > start 43 and have wrecks till the field is whittled down to 36 before
>> > they can run any laps under green. Having 4 or 5 good cars and 16
>> > moving chicanes is hardly much better than having a smaller field. It
>> > can get really bad when the moving chicanes are totally unqualified.
>>
>> NASCAR first and foremost. IRL second and OWRS third. There are a lot
>> of
>> other significant motorsports but I only choose to make time for those
>> three. I know there are people who can go on and on about how F1 is the
>> pinnacle of motorsports and I totally agree but I do not follow that one
>> very closely or hardly at all. Too much electronics and team orders and
>> politics.
>>
>> The reason that I contend that more cars on the grid is generally better
>> is
>> that one never knows which driver can make a name for himself or herself
>> until they get out there and give it a go. Some turn out to be Sebastien
>> and
>> some turn out to be Bruno. That is why they run the races.
>
>
>
> Putting junk on the track does no one any good. Nascar ruins many
> races by letting wrecked race cars get in the way of the unwrecked
> race cars riding around slow getting in the way trying to get points
> for being medicore or down right bad. The I stunk, but I didn't stink
> as bad as that guy is rewarded with Nascar with championship points.
> Worse than that those same wrecked race cars that could easily be
> forced to stay in the garage after being wrecked, drop debris to cause
> yellows that change to course of a race. Nascar admits now they ain't
> in the racing business though. They are in the entertainment business
> and will sell the sport and the fans short in the name of the show
> forget real competion. The only reason they stuff more cars on the
> track is that there are more billboard to roll around, which is
> exactly why they let those wrecked race cars drop debris all over the
> track. It gets the wrecked race cars on TV. Tv time means money. IF
> Nascar thought they could get away with starting 50 cars they would do
> it in a second.
>
> The IRL is beyond discussion. It is so low its beyond contempt. It
> was founded annoucing a series of princples and reasons for its
> formation, ALL of which are now being totally ignored. Twice its sent
> the wrong winner to victory lane, once they even admitted it. Talent
> has gone down with only a few drivers really being of the level that
> would justify them being at that level, and some of those are aging
> and entering the twilight of their careers. IF they let Al Jr drive
> at Indy this year, it would be the ultimate insult to a once proud
> race. Instead now the big annoucement is the adding of Milka Duno.
> As a photographer I can spot beauty and she definately qualifies
> there, but look at just how many laps the team lets her drive in
> sports cars. In one of her endurance race wins, the team let her
> drive a grand total of 14 laps. The speedway was even talking about
> extra practice to get her up to speed. The Indy I knew cut no extra
> slack to anyone. It was not a training ground. If you made the field
> you could make an honest claim to being one of the best. No more.
> With the likes of Dr. Jack Miller, Racin Gardner, 00 Joe, Jimmy (I
> never saw a wall I didn't hit) Kite and of course tattoo, the talent
> level is like entering a plow mule into the Kentucky Derby. Only
> thing is in the Derby the plow mule is laughed at. At Indy its
> cheered, at least by those that don't bother to look and see they are
> really cheering for the south end of a north bound donkey.
>
> The real Indy 500 had the front grandstands packed both pole and bump
> day. Yes then they were real bumps without having to try to change
> the rules to make bumps (hmm remember something about protecting the
> traditions of the month of May) with rule changes. The real Indy 500
> took the fastest 33. If you weren't up to speed, you didn't make it
> including defending champions.
>
> The IRL was really nothing more than a thinly veiled hostile take over
> attempt that went very wrong. You dogged Bruno. Guess what. He ran
> an IRL race in late May once. With little testing in a car that was
> his first race in it, he was in contention for winning the IRL's
> superbowl, till one AJ IV came down on him while being lapped, sent
> them both into the wall. It was Bruno that wound up in Methodist with
> a broken back. You do remember that don't you Ricky?? Every time a
> Champ Car team or driver has competed in the 500, they for the most
> part of run up front. One JPM said the cars were so easy to drive his
> grandmother could drive won, then backed it up with a win. Again with
> little test time, in a strange car that beat all the regulars which
> should have had a big advantage.
>
> Champ car has made its share of dumb moves too, but nothing even close
> to the sleezy on which the IRL is based.
>
You are comparing different things. In open wheel racing every car that
pays the entry fee is assured a spot on the grid. The only exception is the
Indy 500 where they have to time trial their way in.
In NASCAR there are always more cars trying to qualify than spaces on the
grid. As a result, every spot is guaranteed some point just for making the
race. That is why you may see somewhat damaged cars trying to make laps in
order to pick up some small number of points due to attrition.
The NASCAR fans do not mind seeing cars with no bumpers or fenders or hoods
running because it reminds them of their yard cars they see every day.
Re: Forsythe to Run Two Cars
RickyBobby wrote:
>>
>
> You are comparing different things. In open wheel racing every car that
> pays the entry fee is assured a spot on the grid. The only exception is the
> Indy 500 where they have to time trial their way in.
Only in the past. Any warm body that can figure out which way to turn
on the track gets in the race.
But it seems like you're wrong so often it doesn't make much difference.
RickyBobby wrote:
>>
>
> You are comparing different things. In open wheel racing every car that
> pays the entry fee is assured a spot on the grid. The only exception is the
> Indy 500 where they have to time trial their way in.
Only in the past. Any warm body that can figure out which way to turn
on the track gets in the race.
But it seems like you're wrong so often it doesn't make much difference.
Re: Forsythe to Run Two Cars
RickyBobby wrote:
> "Mark" <mblackwell1958@yahoo,com > wrote in message
> news:1175316775.451286.292610@l77g2000hsb.googlegroups,com ...
>> On Mar 30, 11:11 am, "RickyBobby" <nasca...@cox,net > wrote:
>>> "Mark" <mblackwell1...@yahoo,com > wrote in message
>>>
>>> news:1175227284.888299.119630@y80g2000hsf.googlegroups,com ...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Mar 29, 11:41 am, "RickyBobby" <nasca...@cox,net > wrote:
>>>>> "Lenny" <hayso...@hotmail,com > wrote in message
>>>>> news:1175182285.291874.140820@d57g2000hsg.googlegroups,com ...
>>>>>> HAMP CAR: Forsythe to Run Two Cars
>>>>>> Written by: RACER staff Indianapolis, Ind. - 3/29/2007
>>>>>> Despite team boss Gerald Forsythe's promise that his squad would run
>>>>>> a
>>>>>> sole car for Paul Tracy if no funding ,ould be found for a second
>>>>>> Champ Car World Series entry, his Forsythe Championship Racing team
>>>>>> has confirmed that it will announce a teammate for PT today.
>>>>>> The second driver is expected to be a Mexican, with David Martinez
>>>>>> leading the battle but even former FCR driver Mario Dominguez, who
>>>>>> split with the team after just four races last year following a
>>>>>> crash
>>>>>> with Tracy at Milwaukee, is rumored to be under consideration.
>>>>>> http :// www .speedtv,com /articles/champcar/auto/36330/
>>>>> Good deal. More cars make for a better race.
>>>> Ricky Bobby aren't you a Nascar fan and an IRL fan? Why would you
>>>> care about how many Champ Car starts? IRL=open wheel restrictor plate
>>>> racing Champ Car with the new car is not likely to have any pack
>>>> racing. More cars do not always make for a better race. Bristol is a
>>>> prime example. At one time Nascar started on 36 there. Now they
>>>> start 43 and have wrecks till the field is whittled down to 36 before
>>>> they can run any laps under green. Having 4 or 5 good cars and 16
>>>> moving chicanes is hardly much better than having a smaller field. It
>>>> can get really bad when the moving chicanes are totally unqualified.
>>> NASCAR first and foremost. IRL second and OWRS third. There are a lot
>>> of
>>> other significant motorsports but I only choose to make time for those
>>> three. I know there are people who can go on and on about how F1 is the
>>> pinnacle of motorsports and I totally agree but I do not follow that one
>>> very closely or hardly at all. Too much electronics and team orders and
>>> politics.
>>>
>>> The reason that I contend that more cars on the grid is generally better
>>> is
>>> that one never knows which driver can make a name for himself or herself
>>> until they get out there and give it a go. Some turn out to be Sebastien
>>> and
>>> some turn out to be Bruno. That is why they run the races.
>>
>>
>> Putting junk on the track does no one any good. Nascar ruins many
>> races by letting wrecked race cars get in the way of the unwrecked
>> race cars riding around slow getting in the way trying to get points
>> for being medicore or down right bad. The I stunk, but I didn't stink
>> as bad as that guy is rewarded with Nascar with championship points.
>> Worse than that those same wrecked race cars that could easily be
>> forced to stay in the garage after being wrecked, drop debris to cause
>> yellows that change to course of a race. Nascar admits now they ain't
>> in the racing business though. They are in the entertainment business
>> and will sell the sport and the fans short in the name of the show
>> forget real competion. The only reason they stuff more cars on the
>> track is that there are more billboard to roll around, which is
>> exactly why they let those wrecked race cars drop debris all over the
>> track. It gets the wrecked race cars on TV. Tv time means money. IF
>> Nascar thought they could get away with starting 50 cars they would do
>> it in a second.
>>
>> The IRL is beyond discussion. It is so low its beyond contempt. It
>> was founded annoucing a series of princples and reasons for its
>> formation, ALL of which are now being totally ignored. Twice its sent
>> the wrong winner to victory lane, once they even admitted it. Talent
>> has gone down with only a few drivers really being of the level that
>> would justify them being at that level, and some of those are aging
>> and entering the twilight of their careers. IF they let Al Jr drive
>> at Indy this year, it would be the ultimate insult to a once proud
>> race. Instead now the big annoucement is the adding of Milka Duno.
>> As a photographer I can spot beauty and she definately qualifies
>> there, but look at just how many laps the team lets her drive in
>> sports cars. In one of her endurance race wins, the team let her
>> drive a grand total of 14 laps. The speedway was even talking about
>> extra practice to get her up to speed. The Indy I knew cut no extra
>> slack to anyone. It was not a training ground. If you made the field
>> you could make an honest claim to being one of the best. No more.
>> With the likes of Dr. Jack Miller, Racin Gardner, 00 Joe, Jimmy (I
>> never saw a wall I didn't hit) Kite and of course tattoo, the talent
>> level is like entering a plow mule into the Kentucky Derby. Only
>> thing is in the Derby the plow mule is laughed at. At Indy its
>> cheered, at least by those that don't bother to look and see they are
>> really cheering for the south end of a north bound donkey.
>>
>> The real Indy 500 had the front grandstands packed both pole and bump
>> day. Yes then they were real bumps without having to try to change
>> the rules to make bumps (hmm remember something about protecting the
>> traditions of the month of May) with rule changes. The real Indy 500
>> took the fastest 33. If you weren't up to speed, you didn't make it
>> including defending champions.
>>
>> The IRL was really nothing more than a thinly veiled hostile take over
>> attempt that went very wrong. You dogged Bruno. Guess what. He ran
>> an IRL race in late May once. With little testing in a car that was
>> his first race in it, he was in contention for winning the IRL's
>> superbowl, till one AJ IV came down on him while being lapped, sent
>> them both into the wall. It was Bruno that wound up in Methodist with
>> a broken back. You do remember that don't you Ricky?? Every time a
>> Champ Car team or driver has competed in the 500, they for the most
>> part of run up front. One JPM said the cars were so easy to drive his
>> grandmother could drive won, then backed it up with a win. Again with
>> little test time, in a strange car that beat all the regulars which
>> should have had a big advantage.
>>
>> Champ car has made its share of dumb moves too, but nothing even close
>> to the sleezy on which the IRL is based.
>>
>
> You are comparing different things. In open wheel racing every car that
> pays the entry fee is assured a spot on the grid. The only exception is the
> Indy 500 where they have to time trial their way in.
I think the days of needing to qualify for the Indy 500 based on a
competitive time are past. The emphasis today seems to be in recruiting
drivers that may actually be qualified to get around the track at almost
any speed faster than the pace car without hitting anything expensive.
This situation is a direct result of the formation of the IRL at the
exclusion of teams that don't drink the IRL Kool-Aid.
RickyBobby wrote:
> "Mark" <mblackwell1958@yahoo,com > wrote in message
> news:1175316775.451286.292610@l77g2000hsb.googlegroups,com ...
>> On Mar 30, 11:11 am, "RickyBobby" <nasca...@cox,net > wrote:
>>> "Mark" <mblackwell1...@yahoo,com > wrote in message
>>>
>>> news:1175227284.888299.119630@y80g2000hsf.googlegroups,com ...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Mar 29, 11:41 am, "RickyBobby" <nasca...@cox,net > wrote:
>>>>> "Lenny" <hayso...@hotmail,com > wrote in message
>>>>> news:1175182285.291874.140820@d57g2000hsg.googlegroups,com ...
>>>>>> HAMP CAR: Forsythe to Run Two Cars
>>>>>> Written by: RACER staff Indianapolis, Ind. - 3/29/2007
>>>>>> Despite team boss Gerald Forsythe's promise that his squad would run
>>>>>> a
>>>>>> sole car for Paul Tracy if no funding ,ould be found for a second
>>>>>> Champ Car World Series entry, his Forsythe Championship Racing team
>>>>>> has confirmed that it will announce a teammate for PT today.
>>>>>> The second driver is expected to be a Mexican, with David Martinez
>>>>>> leading the battle but even former FCR driver Mario Dominguez, who
>>>>>> split with the team after just four races last year following a
>>>>>> crash
>>>>>> with Tracy at Milwaukee, is rumored to be under consideration.
>>>>>> http :// www .speedtv,com /articles/champcar/auto/36330/
>>>>> Good deal. More cars make for a better race.
>>>> Ricky Bobby aren't you a Nascar fan and an IRL fan? Why would you
>>>> care about how many Champ Car starts? IRL=open wheel restrictor plate
>>>> racing Champ Car with the new car is not likely to have any pack
>>>> racing. More cars do not always make for a better race. Bristol is a
>>>> prime example. At one time Nascar started on 36 there. Now they
>>>> start 43 and have wrecks till the field is whittled down to 36 before
>>>> they can run any laps under green. Having 4 or 5 good cars and 16
>>>> moving chicanes is hardly much better than having a smaller field. It
>>>> can get really bad when the moving chicanes are totally unqualified.
>>> NASCAR first and foremost. IRL second and OWRS third. There are a lot
>>> of
>>> other significant motorsports but I only choose to make time for those
>>> three. I know there are people who can go on and on about how F1 is the
>>> pinnacle of motorsports and I totally agree but I do not follow that one
>>> very closely or hardly at all. Too much electronics and team orders and
>>> politics.
>>>
>>> The reason that I contend that more cars on the grid is generally better
>>> is
>>> that one never knows which driver can make a name for himself or herself
>>> until they get out there and give it a go. Some turn out to be Sebastien
>>> and
>>> some turn out to be Bruno. That is why they run the races.
>>
>>
>> Putting junk on the track does no one any good. Nascar ruins many
>> races by letting wrecked race cars get in the way of the unwrecked
>> race cars riding around slow getting in the way trying to get points
>> for being medicore or down right bad. The I stunk, but I didn't stink
>> as bad as that guy is rewarded with Nascar with championship points.
>> Worse than that those same wrecked race cars that could easily be
>> forced to stay in the garage after being wrecked, drop debris to cause
>> yellows that change to course of a race. Nascar admits now they ain't
>> in the racing business though. They are in the entertainment business
>> and will sell the sport and the fans short in the name of the show
>> forget real competion. The only reason they stuff more cars on the
>> track is that there are more billboard to roll around, which is
>> exactly why they let those wrecked race cars drop debris all over the
>> track. It gets the wrecked race cars on TV. Tv time means money. IF
>> Nascar thought they could get away with starting 50 cars they would do
>> it in a second.
>>
>> The IRL is beyond discussion. It is so low its beyond contempt. It
>> was founded annoucing a series of princples and reasons for its
>> formation, ALL of which are now being totally ignored. Twice its sent
>> the wrong winner to victory lane, once they even admitted it. Talent
>> has gone down with only a few drivers really being of the level that
>> would justify them being at that level, and some of those are aging
>> and entering the twilight of their careers. IF they let Al Jr drive
>> at Indy this year, it would be the ultimate insult to a once proud
>> race. Instead now the big annoucement is the adding of Milka Duno.
>> As a photographer I can spot beauty and she definately qualifies
>> there, but look at just how many laps the team lets her drive in
>> sports cars. In one of her endurance race wins, the team let her
>> drive a grand total of 14 laps. The speedway was even talking about
>> extra practice to get her up to speed. The Indy I knew cut no extra
>> slack to anyone. It was not a training ground. If you made the field
>> you could make an honest claim to being one of the best. No more.
>> With the likes of Dr. Jack Miller, Racin Gardner, 00 Joe, Jimmy (I
>> never saw a wall I didn't hit) Kite and of course tattoo, the talent
>> level is like entering a plow mule into the Kentucky Derby. Only
>> thing is in the Derby the plow mule is laughed at. At Indy its
>> cheered, at least by those that don't bother to look and see they are
>> really cheering for the south end of a north bound donkey.
>>
>> The real Indy 500 had the front grandstands packed both pole and bump
>> day. Yes then they were real bumps without having to try to change
>> the rules to make bumps (hmm remember something about protecting the
>> traditions of the month of May) with rule changes. The real Indy 500
>> took the fastest 33. If you weren't up to speed, you didn't make it
>> including defending champions.
>>
>> The IRL was really nothing more than a thinly veiled hostile take over
>> attempt that went very wrong. You dogged Bruno. Guess what. He ran
>> an IRL race in late May once. With little testing in a car that was
>> his first race in it, he was in contention for winning the IRL's
>> superbowl, till one AJ IV came down on him while being lapped, sent
>> them both into the wall. It was Bruno that wound up in Methodist with
>> a broken back. You do remember that don't you Ricky?? Every time a
>> Champ Car team or driver has competed in the 500, they for the most
>> part of run up front. One JPM said the cars were so easy to drive his
>> grandmother could drive won, then backed it up with a win. Again with
>> little test time, in a strange car that beat all the regulars which
>> should have had a big advantage.
>>
>> Champ car has made its share of dumb moves too, but nothing even close
>> to the sleezy on which the IRL is based.
>>
>
> You are comparing different things. In open wheel racing every car that
> pays the entry fee is assured a spot on the grid. The only exception is the
> Indy 500 where they have to time trial their way in.
I think the days of needing to qualify for the Indy 500 based on a
competitive time are past. The emphasis today seems to be in recruiting
drivers that may actually be qualified to get around the track at almost
any speed faster than the pace car without hitting anything expensive.
This situation is a direct result of the formation of the IRL at the
exclusion of teams that don't drink the IRL Kool-Aid.
Re: Forsythe to Run Two Cars
On Mar 29, 8:45 pm, "Jason Hoehn" <jason.hoehnnospample...@shaw.ca>
wrote:
> "Lenny" <hayso...@hotmail,com > wrote in message
>
> news:1175182285.291874.140820@d57g2000hsg.googlegroups,com ...
>
> > HAMP CAR: Forsythe to Run Two Cars
>
> HAMP car?
>
> Well, it could have been HEMP car I guess.
>
> ;-)
Oops, I left the C back in the browser ;-D
On Mar 29, 8:45 pm, "Jason Hoehn" <jason.hoehnnospample...@shaw.ca>
wrote:
> "Lenny" <hayso...@hotmail,com > wrote in message
>
> news:1175182285.291874.140820@d57g2000hsg.googlegroups,com ...
>
> > HAMP CAR: Forsythe to Run Two Cars
>
> HAMP car?
>
> Well, it could have been HEMP car I guess.
>
> ;-)
Oops, I left the C back in the browser ;-D
Next: Graham Rahall signed and new sponsor announced
Previous: Semi OT - Bourdais Fastest at Paul Ricard Le Mans Test
