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Yet another '100 Greatest Drivers poll'
Yet another '100 Greatest Drivers poll'
From F1 Racing - you'd think they could find better stuff to fill the pages.
This one was arrived at by asking their Readers Panel - people who have
signed up to give their opinions when asked. Every member was asked to
nominate their top eight F1 drivers from 1950-2008 and then each one
was given points on the 10-8-6-5-4-3-2-1 scale. I can't be bothered
with the full 100 at the mo., but here's the top 50.
1. Senna
2. Schumacher (M)
3. Fangio
4. Prost
5. Clark
6. Stewart
7. Räikkönen
8. Häkkinen
9. Villeneuve (G)
10. Lauda
11. Mansell
12. Alonso
13. Moss
14. Piquet (sr.)
15. Hamilton
16. Ascari
17. Brabham
18. Hill (G)
19. Hill (D)
20. Hunt
21. Fittipaldi (E)
22. Rosberg (K)
23. Peterson
24. Andretti (sr.)
25. Rindt
26. Surtees
27. Alesi
28. McLaren
29. Barrichello
30. Berger
31. Cevert
32. Farina
33. Ickx
34. Reutemann
35. Bellof
36. Hill (P)
37. Jones
38. Rodriguez (P)
39. Brooks
40. Coulthard
41. Villeneuve (J)
42. Button
43. Massa
44. Montoya
45. Scheckter (J)
46. Amon
47. Gurney
48. Pryce
49. Heidfeld
50. Kubica
--
Brian W Lawrence
Wantage,
Oxfordshire, UK
Brian_W_Lawrence@msn,com
From F1 Racing - you'd think they could find better stuff to fill the pages.
This one was arrived at by asking their Readers Panel - people who have
signed up to give their opinions when asked. Every member was asked to
nominate their top eight F1 drivers from 1950-2008 and then each one
was given points on the 10-8-6-5-4-3-2-1 scale. I can't be bothered
with the full 100 at the mo., but here's the top 50.
1. Senna
2. Schumacher (M)
3. Fangio
4. Prost
5. Clark
6. Stewart
7. Räikkönen
8. Häkkinen
9. Villeneuve (G)
10. Lauda
11. Mansell
12. Alonso
13. Moss
14. Piquet (sr.)
15. Hamilton
16. Ascari
17. Brabham
18. Hill (G)
19. Hill (D)
20. Hunt
21. Fittipaldi (E)
22. Rosberg (K)
23. Peterson
24. Andretti (sr.)
25. Rindt
26. Surtees
27. Alesi
28. McLaren
29. Barrichello
30. Berger
31. Cevert
32. Farina
33. Ickx
34. Reutemann
35. Bellof
36. Hill (P)
37. Jones
38. Rodriguez (P)
39. Brooks
40. Coulthard
41. Villeneuve (J)
42. Button
43. Massa
44. Montoya
45. Scheckter (J)
46. Amon
47. Gurney
48. Pryce
49. Heidfeld
50. Kubica
--
Brian W Lawrence
Wantage,
Oxfordshire, UK
Brian_W_Lawrence@msn,com
Re: Yet another '100 Greatest Drivers poll'
Brian Lawrence wrote:
> From F1 Racing - you'd think they could find better stuff to fill the pages.
>
> This one was arrived at by asking their Readers Panel - people who have
> signed up to give their opinions when asked. Every member was asked to
> nominate their top eight F1 drivers from 1950-2008 and then each one
> was given points on the 10-8-6-5-4-3-2-1 scale. I can't be bothered
> with the full 100 at the mo., but here's the top 50.
>
> 1. Senna
> 2. Schumacher (M)
> 3. Fangio
> 4. Prost
> 5. Clark
> 6. Stewart
> 7. Räikkönen
> 8. Häkkinen
> 9. Villeneuve (G)
> 10. Lauda
I think the '(M)' and '(G)' are a little superfluous there ;-)
Brian Lawrence wrote:
> From F1 Racing - you'd think they could find better stuff to fill the pages.
>
> This one was arrived at by asking their Readers Panel - people who have
> signed up to give their opinions when asked. Every member was asked to
> nominate their top eight F1 drivers from 1950-2008 and then each one
> was given points on the 10-8-6-5-4-3-2-1 scale. I can't be bothered
> with the full 100 at the mo., but here's the top 50.
>
> 1. Senna
> 2. Schumacher (M)
> 3. Fangio
> 4. Prost
> 5. Clark
> 6. Stewart
> 7. Räikkönen
> 8. Häkkinen
> 9. Villeneuve (G)
> 10. Lauda
I think the '(M)' and '(G)' are a little superfluous there ;-)
Re: Yet another '100 Greatest Drivers poll'
On Fri, 18 Apr 2008 12:39:11 +0100, Jon Ross <itsa@secret,com > wrote:
>Brian Lawrence wrote:
>> From F1 Racing - you'd think they could find better stuff to fill the pages.
>>
>> This one was arrived at by asking their Readers Panel - people who have
>> signed up to give their opinions when asked. Every member was asked to
>> nominate their top eight F1 drivers from 1950-2008 and then each one
>> was given points on the 10-8-6-5-4-3-2-1 scale. I can't be bothered
>> with the full 100 at the mo., but here's the top 50.
>>
>> 1. Senna
>> 2. Schumacher (M)
>> 3. Fangio
>> 4. Prost
>> 5. Clark
>> 6. Stewart
>> 7. Räikkönen
>> 8. Häkkinen
>> 9. Villeneuve (G)
>> 10. Lauda
>
>I think the '(M)' and '(G)' are a little superfluous there ;-)
Someone ought to define "greatest" first. "(G)" never won anything of note.
-- Larry
On Fri, 18 Apr 2008 12:39:11 +0100, Jon Ross <itsa@secret,com > wrote:
>Brian Lawrence wrote:
>> From F1 Racing - you'd think they could find better stuff to fill the pages.
>>
>> This one was arrived at by asking their Readers Panel - people who have
>> signed up to give their opinions when asked. Every member was asked to
>> nominate their top eight F1 drivers from 1950-2008 and then each one
>> was given points on the 10-8-6-5-4-3-2-1 scale. I can't be bothered
>> with the full 100 at the mo., but here's the top 50.
>>
>> 1. Senna
>> 2. Schumacher (M)
>> 3. Fangio
>> 4. Prost
>> 5. Clark
>> 6. Stewart
>> 7. Räikkönen
>> 8. Häkkinen
>> 9. Villeneuve (G)
>> 10. Lauda
>
>I think the '(M)' and '(G)' are a little superfluous there ;-)
Someone ought to define "greatest" first. "(G)" never won anything of note.
-- Larry
Re: Yet another '100 Greatest Drivers poll'
"Brian Lawrence" <Brian W LawrenceREMTHIS@msn,com > wrote in message
news:66rcgfF2lef3nU1@mid.individual,net ...
> From F1 Racing - you'd think they could find better stuff to fill the
> pages.
>
> This one was arrived at by asking their Readers Panel - people who have
> signed up to give their opinions when asked. Every member was asked to
> nominate their top eight F1 drivers from 1950-2008 and then each one
> was given points on the 10-8-6-5-4-3-2-1 scale. I can't be bothered
> with the full 100 at the mo., but here's the top 50.
>
> 1. Senna
>
I agree that Senna was the finest driver to date.
"Brian Lawrence" <Brian W LawrenceREMTHIS@msn,com > wrote in message
news:66rcgfF2lef3nU1@mid.individual,net ...
> From F1 Racing - you'd think they could find better stuff to fill the
> pages.
>
> This one was arrived at by asking their Readers Panel - people who have
> signed up to give their opinions when asked. Every member was asked to
> nominate their top eight F1 drivers from 1950-2008 and then each one
> was given points on the 10-8-6-5-4-3-2-1 scale. I can't be bothered
> with the full 100 at the mo., but here's the top 50.
>
> 1. Senna
>
I agree that Senna was the finest driver to date.
Re: Yet another '100 Greatest Drivers poll'
"RickyBobby" <nascar42@cox,net > wrote in message
news:YV%Nj.86419$497.1539@newsfe14.phx...
>
> "Brian Lawrence" <Brian W LawrenceREMTHIS@msn,com > wrote in message
> news:66rcgfF2lef3nU1@mid.individual,net ...
>> From F1 Racing - you'd think they could find better stuff to fill the
>> pages.
>>
>> This one was arrived at by asking their Readers Panel - people who have
>> signed up to give their opinions when asked. Every member was asked to
>> nominate their top eight F1 drivers from 1950-2008 and then each one
>> was given points on the 10-8-6-5-4-3-2-1 scale. I can't be bothered
>> with the full 100 at the mo., but here's the top 50.
>>
>> 1. Senna
>>
>
> I agree that Senna was the finest driver to date.
"To date", who?
"RickyBobby" <nascar42@cox,net > wrote in message
news:YV%Nj.86419$497.1539@newsfe14.phx...
>
> "Brian Lawrence" <Brian W LawrenceREMTHIS@msn,com > wrote in message
> news:66rcgfF2lef3nU1@mid.individual,net ...
>> From F1 Racing - you'd think they could find better stuff to fill the
>> pages.
>>
>> This one was arrived at by asking their Readers Panel - people who have
>> signed up to give their opinions when asked. Every member was asked to
>> nominate their top eight F1 drivers from 1950-2008 and then each one
>> was given points on the 10-8-6-5-4-3-2-1 scale. I can't be bothered
>> with the full 100 at the mo., but here's the top 50.
>>
>> 1. Senna
>>
>
> I agree that Senna was the finest driver to date.
"To date", who?
Re: Yet another '100 Greatest Drivers poll'
RickyBobby wrote:
>
> "Brian Lawrence" <Brian W LawrenceREMTHIS@msn,com > wrote in message
> news:66rcgfF2lef3nU1@mid.individual,net ...
> > From F1 Racing - you'd think they could find better stuff to fill
> > the pages.
> >
> > This one was arrived at by asking their Readers Panel - people who
> > have signed up to give their opinions when asked. Every member was
> > asked to nominate their top eight F1 drivers from 1950-2008 and
> > then each one was given points on the 10-8-6-5-4-3-2-1 scale. I
> > can't be bothered with the full 100 at the mo., but here's the top
> > 50.
> >
> > 1. Senna
> >
>
> I agree that Senna was the finest driver to date.
LOL!
This from another know-nothing septic... care to explain just how and
why Senna was a finer driver than Wee Jimmy?
--
Paul-B
RickyBobby wrote:
>
> "Brian Lawrence" <Brian W LawrenceREMTHIS@msn,com > wrote in message
> news:66rcgfF2lef3nU1@mid.individual,net ...
> > From F1 Racing - you'd think they could find better stuff to fill
> > the pages.
> >
> > This one was arrived at by asking their Readers Panel - people who
> > have signed up to give their opinions when asked. Every member was
> > asked to nominate their top eight F1 drivers from 1950-2008 and
> > then each one was given points on the 10-8-6-5-4-3-2-1 scale. I
> > can't be bothered with the full 100 at the mo., but here's the top
> > 50.
> >
> > 1. Senna
> >
>
> I agree that Senna was the finest driver to date.
LOL!
This from another know-nothing septic... care to explain just how and
why Senna was a finer driver than Wee Jimmy?
--
Paul-B
Re: Yet another '100 Greatest Drivers poll'
"Paul-B" <paul@rasf1,net > wrote in message
news:66rhh0F2kp84eU1@mid.individual,net ...
> RickyBobby wrote:
>
>>
>> "Brian Lawrence" <Brian_W_LawrenceREMTHIS@msn,com > wrote in message
>> news:66rcgfF2lef3nU1@mid.individual,net ...
>> > From F1 Racing - you'd think they could find better stuff to fill
>> > the pages.
>> >
>> > This one was arrived at by asking their Readers Panel - people who
>> > have signed up to give their opinions when asked. Every member was
>> > asked to nominate their top eight F1 drivers from 1950-2008 and
>> > then each one was given points on the 10-8-6-5-4-3-2-1 scale. I
>> > can't be bothered with the full 100 at the mo., but here's the top
>> > 50.
>> >
>> > 1. Senna
>> >
>>
>> I agree that Senna was the finest driver to date.
>
> LOL!
>
> This from another know-nothing septic... care to explain just how and
> why Senna was a finer driver than Wee Jimmy?
>
I still think it's impossible to compare drivers from different eras, and
especially let readers of a magazine do it. It's mostly personal opinion
with a little fact thrown in ;-) - example - I don't particularly like
Michael Schumacher's "sporting" tactics - option 13, Jerez 97, Monaco 06
etc. Am I right to drop him down my own list of top drivers because of
this? One cannot deny he was one of the very best, alleged "cheat" or not.
If you were to compare drivers on a points per races entered ratio, Hamilton
would be at the top *if* my calculations are right. Does this make him
better than Senna? Better than a driver like G Villeneuve or Mansell, who
never really fullfilled their potential (IMO Mansell should have won the
title 2 or 3 times) but drove the balls off shitty cars?
We will *never* know how Senna and Jimmy would compare, or if Schumacher
would have managed the feats of Fangio in a 50s Merc..the speculation and
argument however is part of the fun of being a motor racing fan :-)
Mike P
"Paul-B" <paul@rasf1,net > wrote in message
news:66rhh0F2kp84eU1@mid.individual,net ...
> RickyBobby wrote:
>
>>
>> "Brian Lawrence" <Brian_W_LawrenceREMTHIS@msn,com > wrote in message
>> news:66rcgfF2lef3nU1@mid.individual,net ...
>> > From F1 Racing - you'd think they could find better stuff to fill
>> > the pages.
>> >
>> > This one was arrived at by asking their Readers Panel - people who
>> > have signed up to give their opinions when asked. Every member was
>> > asked to nominate their top eight F1 drivers from 1950-2008 and
>> > then each one was given points on the 10-8-6-5-4-3-2-1 scale. I
>> > can't be bothered with the full 100 at the mo., but here's the top
>> > 50.
>> >
>> > 1. Senna
>> >
>>
>> I agree that Senna was the finest driver to date.
>
> LOL!
>
> This from another know-nothing septic... care to explain just how and
> why Senna was a finer driver than Wee Jimmy?
>
I still think it's impossible to compare drivers from different eras, and
especially let readers of a magazine do it. It's mostly personal opinion
with a little fact thrown in ;-) - example - I don't particularly like
Michael Schumacher's "sporting" tactics - option 13, Jerez 97, Monaco 06
etc. Am I right to drop him down my own list of top drivers because of
this? One cannot deny he was one of the very best, alleged "cheat" or not.
If you were to compare drivers on a points per races entered ratio, Hamilton
would be at the top *if* my calculations are right. Does this make him
better than Senna? Better than a driver like G Villeneuve or Mansell, who
never really fullfilled their potential (IMO Mansell should have won the
title 2 or 3 times) but drove the balls off shitty cars?
We will *never* know how Senna and Jimmy would compare, or if Schumacher
would have managed the feats of Fangio in a 50s Merc..the speculation and
argument however is part of the fun of being a motor racing fan :-)
Mike P
Re: Yet another '100 Greatest Drivers poll'
RickyBobby wrote:
>
> "Brian Lawrence" <Brian W LawrenceREMTHIS@msn,com > wrote in message
> news:66rcgfF2lef3nU1@mid.individual,net ...
> > From F1 Racing - you'd think they could find better stuff to fill
> > the pages.
> >
> > This one was arrived at by asking their Readers Panel - people who
> > have signed up to give their opinions when asked. Every member was
> > asked to nominate their top eight F1 drivers from 1950-2008 and
> > then each one was given points on the 10-8-6-5-4-3-2-1 scale. I
> > can't be bothered with the full 100 at the mo., but here's the top
> > 50.
> >
> > 1. Senna
> >
>
> I agree that Senna was the finest driver to date.
Is that from personal experience? Did he buy you flowers and
chocolates... and pull your nighty back down before he left.
--
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If you would like to advertise here f*ck off!
RickyBobby wrote:
>
> "Brian Lawrence" <Brian W LawrenceREMTHIS@msn,com > wrote in message
> news:66rcgfF2lef3nU1@mid.individual,net ...
> > From F1 Racing - you'd think they could find better stuff to fill
> > the pages.
> >
> > This one was arrived at by asking their Readers Panel - people who
> > have signed up to give their opinions when asked. Every member was
> > asked to nominate their top eight F1 drivers from 1950-2008 and
> > then each one was given points on the 10-8-6-5-4-3-2-1 scale. I
> > can't be bothered with the full 100 at the mo., but here's the top
> > 50.
> >
> > 1. Senna
> >
>
> I agree that Senna was the finest driver to date.
Is that from personal experience? Did he buy you flowers and
chocolates... and pull your nighty back down before he left.
--
This space has deliberately not been left blank.
If you would like to advertise here f*ck off!
Re: Yet another '100 Greatest Drivers poll'
In article <YV%Nj.86419$497.1539@newsfe14.phx>, nascar42@cox,net says...
>
> "Brian Lawrence" <Brian W LawrenceREMTHIS@msn,com > wrote in message
> news:66rcgfF2lef3nU1@mid.individual,net ...
> > From F1 Racing - you'd think they could find better stuff to fill the
> > pages.
> >
> > This one was arrived at by asking their Readers Panel - people who have
> > signed up to give their opinions when asked. Every member was asked to
> > nominate their top eight F1 drivers from 1950-2008 and then each one
> > was given points on the 10-8-6-5-4-3-2-1 scale. I can't be bothered
> > with the full 100 at the mo., but here's the top 50.
> >
> > 1. Senna
> >
>
> I agree that Senna was the finest driver to date.
>
>
Senna was a very good driver, but he was not a fine driver. 'Finest'
drivers do not punt their rivals off the track at 170mph.
--
Halmyre
That's you that is.
In article <YV%Nj.86419$497.1539@newsfe14.phx>, nascar42@cox,net says...
>
> "Brian Lawrence" <Brian W LawrenceREMTHIS@msn,com > wrote in message
> news:66rcgfF2lef3nU1@mid.individual,net ...
> > From F1 Racing - you'd think they could find better stuff to fill the
> > pages.
> >
> > This one was arrived at by asking their Readers Panel - people who have
> > signed up to give their opinions when asked. Every member was asked to
> > nominate their top eight F1 drivers from 1950-2008 and then each one
> > was given points on the 10-8-6-5-4-3-2-1 scale. I can't be bothered
> > with the full 100 at the mo., but here's the top 50.
> >
> > 1. Senna
> >
>
> I agree that Senna was the finest driver to date.
>
>
Senna was a very good driver, but he was not a fine driver. 'Finest'
drivers do not punt their rivals off the track at 170mph.
--
Halmyre
That's you that is.
Re: Yet another '100 Greatest Drivers poll'
"Halmyre" <no.spam@this.address> wrote in message
news:MPG.2272cf7153ee91d79897b3@news.tesco,net ...
> In article <YV%Nj.86419$497.1539@newsfe14.phx>, nascar42@cox,net says...
>>
>> "Brian Lawrence" <Brian W LawrenceREMTHIS@msn,com > wrote in message
>> news:66rcgfF2lef3nU1@mid.individual,net ...
>> > From F1 Racing - you'd think they could find better stuff to fill the
>> > pages.
>> >
>> > This one was arrived at by asking their Readers Panel - people who have
>> > signed up to give their opinions when asked. Every member was asked to
>> > nominate their top eight F1 drivers from 1950-2008 and then each one
>> > was given points on the 10-8-6-5-4-3-2-1 scale. I can't be bothered
>> > with the full 100 at the mo., but here's the top 50.
>> >
>> > 1. Senna
>> >
>>
>> I agree that Senna was the finest driver to date.
>>
>>
>
> Senna was a very good driver, but he was not a fine driver. 'Finest'
> drivers do not punt their rivals off the track at 170mph.
>
> --
>
Dale Earnhardt did.
"Halmyre" <no.spam@this.address> wrote in message
news:MPG.2272cf7153ee91d79897b3@news.tesco,net ...
> In article <YV%Nj.86419$497.1539@newsfe14.phx>, nascar42@cox,net says...
>>
>> "Brian Lawrence" <Brian W LawrenceREMTHIS@msn,com > wrote in message
>> news:66rcgfF2lef3nU1@mid.individual,net ...
>> > From F1 Racing - you'd think they could find better stuff to fill the
>> > pages.
>> >
>> > This one was arrived at by asking their Readers Panel - people who have
>> > signed up to give their opinions when asked. Every member was asked to
>> > nominate their top eight F1 drivers from 1950-2008 and then each one
>> > was given points on the 10-8-6-5-4-3-2-1 scale. I can't be bothered
>> > with the full 100 at the mo., but here's the top 50.
>> >
>> > 1. Senna
>> >
>>
>> I agree that Senna was the finest driver to date.
>>
>>
>
> Senna was a very good driver, but he was not a fine driver. 'Finest'
> drivers do not punt their rivals off the track at 170mph.
>
> --
>
Dale Earnhardt did.
Re: Yet another '100 Greatest Drivers poll'
On Fri, 18 Apr 2008 10:08:30 -0700, "RickyBobby" <nascar42@cox,net > wrote:
>>> I agree that Senna was the finest driver to date.
>>
>> Senna was a very good driver, but he was not a fine driver. 'Finest'
>> drivers do not punt their rivals off the track at 170mph.
>
>Dale Earnhardt did.
So you're agreeing?
-- Larry
On Fri, 18 Apr 2008 10:08:30 -0700, "RickyBobby" <nascar42@cox,net > wrote:
>>> I agree that Senna was the finest driver to date.
>>
>> Senna was a very good driver, but he was not a fine driver. 'Finest'
>> drivers do not punt their rivals off the track at 170mph.
>
>Dale Earnhardt did.
So you're agreeing?
-- Larry
Re: Yet another '100 Greatest Drivers poll'
"pltrgyst" <pltrgyst@spamlessxhost.org> wrote in message
news:glth04pvj5ulf9i0b9b7q0j3puqsvrlql2@4ax,com ...
> On Fri, 18 Apr 2008 10:08:30 -0700, "RickyBobby" <nascar42@cox,net > wrote:
>
>>>> I agree that Senna was the finest driver to date.
>>>
>>> Senna was a very good driver, but he was not a fine driver. 'Finest'
>>> drivers do not punt their rivals off the track at 170mph.
>>
>>Dale Earnhardt did.
>
> So you're agreeing?
>
> -- Larry
The motorsport legend Darryl Waltrip says that when a slower car is in the
way of a faster car the slower driver is obligated to get out of the way.
That is why they call it racing. Parade laps are what take place before the
green flag drops.
"pltrgyst" <pltrgyst@spamlessxhost.org> wrote in message
news:glth04pvj5ulf9i0b9b7q0j3puqsvrlql2@4ax,com ...
> On Fri, 18 Apr 2008 10:08:30 -0700, "RickyBobby" <nascar42@cox,net > wrote:
>
>>>> I agree that Senna was the finest driver to date.
>>>
>>> Senna was a very good driver, but he was not a fine driver. 'Finest'
>>> drivers do not punt their rivals off the track at 170mph.
>>
>>Dale Earnhardt did.
>
> So you're agreeing?
>
> -- Larry
The motorsport legend Darryl Waltrip says that when a slower car is in the
way of a faster car the slower driver is obligated to get out of the way.
That is why they call it racing. Parade laps are what take place before the
green flag drops.
Re: Yet another '100 Greatest Drivers poll'
In article <AR6Oj.167201$nr1.131594@newsfe13.phx>, nascar42@cox,net
says...
>
> "pltrgyst" <pltrgyst@spamlessxhost.org> wrote in message
> news:glth04pvj5ulf9i0b9b7q0j3puqsvrlql2@4ax,com ...
> > On Fri, 18 Apr 2008 10:08:30 -0700, "RickyBobby" <nascar42@cox,net > wrote:
> >
> >>>> I agree that Senna was the finest driver to date.
> >>>
> >>> Senna was a very good driver, but he was not a fine driver. 'Finest'
> >>> drivers do not punt their rivals off the track at 170mph.
> >>
> >>Dale Earnhardt did.
> >
> > So you're agreeing?
> >
> > -- Larry
>
> The motorsport legend Darryl Waltrip says that when a slower car is in the
> way of a faster car the slower driver is obligated to get out of the way.
> That is why they call it racing. Parade laps are what take place before the
> green flag drops.
>
>
Ken Tyrrell, were he here today, would disagree with Waltrip. So would
Francis Richard Henry Penn Curzon, 5th Earl Howe.
--
Halmyre
That's you that is.
In article <AR6Oj.167201$nr1.131594@newsfe13.phx>, nascar42@cox,net
says...
>
> "pltrgyst" <pltrgyst@spamlessxhost.org> wrote in message
> news:glth04pvj5ulf9i0b9b7q0j3puqsvrlql2@4ax,com ...
> > On Fri, 18 Apr 2008 10:08:30 -0700, "RickyBobby" <nascar42@cox,net > wrote:
> >
> >>>> I agree that Senna was the finest driver to date.
> >>>
> >>> Senna was a very good driver, but he was not a fine driver. 'Finest'
> >>> drivers do not punt their rivals off the track at 170mph.
> >>
> >>Dale Earnhardt did.
> >
> > So you're agreeing?
> >
> > -- Larry
>
> The motorsport legend Darryl Waltrip says that when a slower car is in the
> way of a faster car the slower driver is obligated to get out of the way.
> That is why they call it racing. Parade laps are what take place before the
> green flag drops.
>
>
Ken Tyrrell, were he here today, would disagree with Waltrip. So would
Francis Richard Henry Penn Curzon, 5th Earl Howe.
--
Halmyre
That's you that is.
Re: Yet another '100 Greatest Drivers poll'
"Halmyre" <no.spam@this.address> wrote in message
news:MPG.227310b326734c169897c8@news.tesco,net ...
> In article <AR6Oj.167201$nr1.131594@newsfe13.phx>, nascar42@cox,net
> says...
>>
>> "pltrgyst" <pltrgyst@spamlessxhost.org> wrote in message
>> news:glth04pvj5ulf9i0b9b7q0j3puqsvrlql2@4ax,com ...
>> > On Fri, 18 Apr 2008 10:08:30 -0700, "RickyBobby" <nascar42@cox,net >
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >>>> I agree that Senna was the finest driver to date.
>> >>>
>> >>> Senna was a very good driver, but he was not a fine driver. 'Finest'
>> >>> drivers do not punt their rivals off the track at 170mph.
>> >>
>> >>Dale Earnhardt did.
>> >
>> > So you're agreeing?
>> >
>> > -- Larry
>>
>> The motorsport legend Darryl Waltrip says that when a slower car is in
>> the
>> way of a faster car the slower driver is obligated to get out of the way.
>> That is why they call it racing. Parade laps are what take place before
>> the
>> green flag drops.
>>
>>
>
> Ken Tyrrell, were he here today, would disagree with Waltrip. So would
> Francis Richard Henry Penn Curzon, 5th Earl Howe.
>
> --
>
Never heard of any of them. We do not have royalty and peerage in the land
of the free. People are just people.
"Halmyre" <no.spam@this.address> wrote in message
news:MPG.227310b326734c169897c8@news.tesco,net ...
> In article <AR6Oj.167201$nr1.131594@newsfe13.phx>, nascar42@cox,net
> says...
>>
>> "pltrgyst" <pltrgyst@spamlessxhost.org> wrote in message
>> news:glth04pvj5ulf9i0b9b7q0j3puqsvrlql2@4ax,com ...
>> > On Fri, 18 Apr 2008 10:08:30 -0700, "RickyBobby" <nascar42@cox,net >
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >>>> I agree that Senna was the finest driver to date.
>> >>>
>> >>> Senna was a very good driver, but he was not a fine driver. 'Finest'
>> >>> drivers do not punt their rivals off the track at 170mph.
>> >>
>> >>Dale Earnhardt did.
>> >
>> > So you're agreeing?
>> >
>> > -- Larry
>>
>> The motorsport legend Darryl Waltrip says that when a slower car is in
>> the
>> way of a faster car the slower driver is obligated to get out of the way.
>> That is why they call it racing. Parade laps are what take place before
>> the
>> green flag drops.
>>
>>
>
> Ken Tyrrell, were he here today, would disagree with Waltrip. So would
> Francis Richard Henry Penn Curzon, 5th Earl Howe.
>
> --
>
Never heard of any of them. We do not have royalty and peerage in the land
of the free. People are just people.
Re: Yet another '100 Greatest Drivers poll'
In article <Ze7Oj.88192$497.82789@newsfe14.phx>, nascar42@cox,net
says...
>
> "Halmyre" <no.spam@this.address> wrote in message
> news:MPG.227310b326734c169897c8@news.tesco,net ...
> > In article <AR6Oj.167201$nr1.131594@newsfe13.phx>, nascar42@cox,net
> > says...
> >>
> >> "pltrgyst" <pltrgyst@spamlessxhost.org> wrote in message
> >> news:glth04pvj5ulf9i0b9b7q0j3puqsvrlql2@4ax,com ...
> >> > On Fri, 18 Apr 2008 10:08:30 -0700, "RickyBobby" <nascar42@cox,net >
> >> > wrote:
> >> >
> >> >>>> I agree that Senna was the finest driver to date.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Senna was a very good driver, but he was not a fine driver. 'Finest'
> >> >>> drivers do not punt their rivals off the track at 170mph.
> >> >>
> >> >>Dale Earnhardt did.
> >> >
> >> > So you're agreeing?
> >> >
> >> > -- Larry
> >>
> >> The motorsport legend Darryl Waltrip says that when a slower car is in
> >> the
> >> way of a faster car the slower driver is obligated to get out of the way.
> >> That is why they call it racing. Parade laps are what take place before
> >> the
> >> green flag drops.
> >>
> >>
> >
> > Ken Tyrrell, were he here today, would disagree with Waltrip. So would
> > Francis Richard Henry Penn Curzon, 5th Earl Howe.
> >
> > --
> >
>
> Never heard of any of them. We do not have royalty and peerage in the land
> of the free. People are just people.
>
>
I'm sure Ken would have been tickled pink to have been considered
'royalty' or 'peerage'.
For whatit's worth, both considered that, broadly speaking, it was up to
the faster cars to find a way round the slower cars, and not for the
slower ones to roll over and play dead. Perhaps US foreign policy would
do well to reflect on that.
--
Halmyre
That's you that is.
In article <Ze7Oj.88192$497.82789@newsfe14.phx>, nascar42@cox,net
says...
>
> "Halmyre" <no.spam@this.address> wrote in message
> news:MPG.227310b326734c169897c8@news.tesco,net ...
> > In article <AR6Oj.167201$nr1.131594@newsfe13.phx>, nascar42@cox,net
> > says...
> >>
> >> "pltrgyst" <pltrgyst@spamlessxhost.org> wrote in message
> >> news:glth04pvj5ulf9i0b9b7q0j3puqsvrlql2@4ax,com ...
> >> > On Fri, 18 Apr 2008 10:08:30 -0700, "RickyBobby" <nascar42@cox,net >
> >> > wrote:
> >> >
> >> >>>> I agree that Senna was the finest driver to date.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Senna was a very good driver, but he was not a fine driver. 'Finest'
> >> >>> drivers do not punt their rivals off the track at 170mph.
> >> >>
> >> >>Dale Earnhardt did.
> >> >
> >> > So you're agreeing?
> >> >
> >> > -- Larry
> >>
> >> The motorsport legend Darryl Waltrip says that when a slower car is in
> >> the
> >> way of a faster car the slower driver is obligated to get out of the way.
> >> That is why they call it racing. Parade laps are what take place before
> >> the
> >> green flag drops.
> >>
> >>
> >
> > Ken Tyrrell, were he here today, would disagree with Waltrip. So would
> > Francis Richard Henry Penn Curzon, 5th Earl Howe.
> >
> > --
> >
>
> Never heard of any of them. We do not have royalty and peerage in the land
> of the free. People are just people.
>
>
I'm sure Ken would have been tickled pink to have been considered
'royalty' or 'peerage'.
For whatit's worth, both considered that, broadly speaking, it was up to
the faster cars to find a way round the slower cars, and not for the
slower ones to roll over and play dead. Perhaps US foreign policy would
do well to reflect on that.
--
Halmyre
That's you that is.
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