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Bernie "turning up the pressure"

Reply from: DC
Date: 18 Apr 2008, 18:57
Bernie "turning up the pressure"

LONDON, April 18 (The Times) - The public stance has been one of
constant support in the face of blistering worldwide condemnation, but
behind the closed doors of his offices in London's fashionable
district of Kensington, Bernie Ecclestone is turning up the pressure
to resign on Max Mosley, his old friend and the president of the FIA,
Formula One's governing body.
Ecclestone, who could claim to be the creator of the modern
Formula One, is increasingly alarmed at the reaction to tabloid tales
of Mosley's alleged Nazi orgy with five prostitutes. The Mosley affair
even cast a shadow over the funeral on Wednesday of Richard Lloyd, the
motor racing entrepreneur who died in a plane crash last month. Some
of the most famous names in motor racing - including Damon Hill and
John Watson, the former drivers - were in the church in Brackley,
Northamptonshire, and then met in the British Racing Drivers' Club
(BRDC) at Silverstone, where there was one hot topic of conversation.
Overwhelming opinion at the BRDC was that Mosley must stop
fighting his corner and go with some dignity. One close friend of
Ecclestone said last night: “President Mosley is in danger of becoming
motor racing's President Mugabe.”
The drip, drip of unrest from within the boardrooms of some of
Formula One's big sponsors is also having an effect. Ecclestone did
not become a billionaire building Formula One into box-office business
without being astute and his soundings tell him that the time has come
for Mosley to accept defeat.

Reply from: ME
Date: 18 Apr 2008, 20:16
Re: Bernie "turning up the pressure"

Just read that over on the Times. He's a goner. My concern is what this will
do to Mad Max. I hope defeat does not destroy the guy. But he should see
that he can't like and effectively promote violence as a recreactional
pasttime in a rational society (yeah I deplore boxing too).

http :// www .timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/columnists/kevin_eason/article3768433.ece



Reply from: RickyBobby
Date: 18 Apr 2008, 21:11
Re: Bernie "turning up the pressure"


"DC" <gojphNOJUNKTA@hotmail,com > wrote in message
news:plkh04lsq46jupn5i4ehu65cejeb289qsa@4ax,com ...
> LONDON, April 18 (The Times) - The public stance has been one of
> constant support in the face of blistering worldwide condemnation, but
> behind the closed doors of his offices in London's fashionable
> district of Kensington, Bernie Ecclestone is turning up the pressure
> to resign on Max Mosley, his old friend and the president of the FIA,
> Formula One's governing body.
> Ecclestone, who could claim to be the creator of the modern
> Formula One, is increasingly alarmed at the reaction to tabloid tales
> of Mosley's alleged Nazi orgy with five prostitutes. The Mosley affair
> even cast a shadow over the funeral on Wednesday of Richard Lloyd, the
> motor racing entrepreneur who died in a plane crash last month. Some
> of the most famous names in motor racing - including Damon Hill and
> John Watson, the former drivers - were in the church in Brackley,
> Northamptonshire, and then met in the British Racing Drivers' Club
> (BRDC) at Silverstone, where there was one hot topic of conversation.
> Overwhelming opinion at the BRDC was that Mosley must stop
> fighting his corner and go with some dignity. One close friend of
> Ecclestone said last night: "President Mosley is in danger of becoming
> motor racing's President Mugabe."
> The drip, drip of unrest from within the boardrooms of some of
> Formula One's big sponsors is also having an effect. Ecclestone did
> not become a billionaire building Formula One into box-office business
> without being astute and his soundings tell him that the time has come
> for Mosley to accept defeat.

That Nazi-loving stuff is a bad bit of business for a public figure.


Reply from: Bigbird
Date: 18 Apr 2008, 21:33
Re: Bernie "turning up the pressure"

RickyBobby wrote:

> That Nazi-loving stuff is a bad bit of business for a public figure.

Not a good way of opening up the US market then?

--
"I have found out in later years [that] we were very poor, but the
glory of America is that we didn't know it then."

Reply from: RickyBobby
Date: 18 Apr 2008, 21:41
Re: Bernie "turning up the pressure"


"Bigbird" <Bigbird.UsenetREMOVTHS@Gmail,com > wrote in message
news:xn0fp38ru3ikyo0003@news.individual,net ...
> RickyBobby wrote:
>
>> That Nazi-loving stuff is a bad bit of business for a public figure.
>
> Not a good way of opening up the US market then?
>
> --
>

The US market is awash with sport and we do not wish for a dull one with no
passing on the track. Same goes for those one-nil boring football matches.
You Europeans enjoy that non-competitive stuff but we need to see some
action.

To each their own. Football is the biggest sport in the world and Formula
One has the most advanced cars in the world but we can plod along quite
nicely without either. Nobody in the rest of the world cares much for
American sport either so it is a fair deal all the way around.

You had your chance and you ruined it with that six car race a couple of
seasons back. You will not recieve a second chance. Do your races in
sandstorms and malaria swamplands.


Reply from: FB
Date: 18 Apr 2008, 21:50
Re: Bernie "turning up the pressure"


"RickyBobby" <nascar42@cox,net > wrote
news:FP6Oj.167200$nr1.71074@newsfe13.phx...
>
> "Bigbird" <Bigbird.UsenetREMOVTHS@Gmail,com > wrote in message
> news:xn0fp38ru3ikyo0003@news.individual,net ...
>> RickyBobby wrote:
>>
>>> That Nazi-loving stuff is a bad bit of business for a public figure.
>>
>> Not a good way of opening up the US market then?
>>
>> --
>>
>
> The US market is awash with sport and we do not wish for a dull one with
> no passing on the track. Same goes for those one-nil boring football
> matches. You Europeans enjoy that non-competitive stuff but we need to see
> some action.

yep... wrestling...

>
> To each their own. Football is the biggest sport in the world and Formula
> One has the most advanced cars in the world but we can plod along quite
> nicely without either. Nobody in the rest of the world cares much for
> American sport either so it is a fair deal all the way around.

NFL = 4 hours of "sport" with only 5 minutes of ball playing...

>
> You had your chance and you ruined it with that six car race a couple of
> seasons back. You will not recieve a second chance. Do your races in
> sandstorms and malaria swamplands.

never been to Arizona and Florida, I guess...

FB





Reply from: RickyBobby
Date: 18 Apr 2008, 21:59
Re: Bernie "turning up the pressure"


"FB" <no.spam@will.be.allowed,com > wrote in message
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>
> "RickyBobby" <nascar42@cox,net > wrote
> news:FP6Oj.167200$nr1.71074@newsfe13.phx...
>>
>> "Bigbird" <Bigbird.UsenetREMOVTHS@Gmail,com > wrote in message
>> news:xn0fp38ru3ikyo0003@news.individual,net ...
>>> RickyBobby wrote:
>>>
>>>> That Nazi-loving stuff is a bad bit of business for a public figure.
>>>
>>> Not a good way of opening up the US market then?
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>
>> The US market is awash with sport and we do not wish for a dull one with
>> no passing on the track. Same goes for those one-nil boring football
>> matches. You Europeans enjoy that non-competitive stuff but we need to
>> see some action.
>
> yep... wrestling...
>
>>
>> To each their own. Football is the biggest sport in the world and
>> Formula One has the most advanced cars in the world but we can plod along
>> quite nicely without either. Nobody in the rest of the world cares much
>> for American sport either so it is a fair deal all the way around.
>
> NFL = 4 hours of "sport" with only 5 minutes of ball playing...
>
>>
>>

Actually it is about twelve minutes in three hours.


Reply from: Bigbird
Date: 18 Apr 2008, 23:12
Re: Bernie "turning up the pressure"

RickyBobby wrote:

>
> "Bigbird" <Bigbird.UsenetREMOVTHS@Gmail,com > wrote in message
> news:xn0fp38ru3ikyo0003@news.individual,net ...
> > RickyBobby wrote:
> >
> > > That Nazi-loving stuff is a bad bit of business for a public
> > > figure.
> >
> > Not a good way of opening up the US market then?
> >
> > --
>
> The US market is awash with sport and we do not wish for a dull one
> with no passing on the track. Same goes for those one-nil boring
> football matches. You Europeans enjoy that non-competitive stuff but
> we need to see some action.
>

Whooshy whoosh woosh.

Lol, you clearly don't appreciate sport, only a scoreline.

Give yourself minus 5 points...no make that minus 50,000 points.

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This space has deliberately not been left blank.
If you would like to advertise here f*ck off!

Reply from: RickyBobby
Date: 18 Apr 2008, 23:42
Re: Bernie "turning up the pressure"


"Bigbird" <Bigbird.UsenetREMOVTHS@Gmail,com > wrote in message
news:xn0fp3bfg3m51rk004@news.individual,net ...
> RickyBobby wrote:
>
>>
>> "Bigbird" <Bigbird.UsenetREMOVTHS@Gmail,com > wrote in message
>> news:xn0fp38ru3ikyo0003@news.individual,net ...
>> > RickyBobby wrote:
>> >
>> > > That Nazi-loving stuff is a bad bit of business for a public
>> > > figure.
>> >
>> > Not a good way of opening up the US market then?
>> >
>> > --
>>
>> The US market is awash with sport and we do not wish for a dull one
>> with no passing on the track. Same goes for those one-nil boring
>> football matches. You Europeans enjoy that non-competitive stuff but
>> we need to see some action.
>>
>
> Whooshy whoosh woosh.
>
> Lol, you clearly don't appreciate sport, only a scoreline.
>
> Give yourself minus 5 points...no make that minus 50,000 points.
>
>

When we are watching an event we want to see the lead change hands or at
least the reasonable expectation of such. Formula One and higher level
football do not offer that opportunity. America is the land of the free and
people can rise and fall and we want to see that reflected in our sport.
The rest of the world is on some sort of class system and that is the last
thing you want to see. So you have your sort of no overtaking sport and we
have our sort of much overtaking sport. It is all good.


Reply from: Bigbird
Date: 18 Apr 2008, 23:51
Re: Bernie "turning up the pressure"

RickyBobby wrote:

>
> "Bigbird" <Bigbird.UsenetREMOVTHS@Gmail,com > wrote in message
> news:xn0fp3bfg3m51rk004@news.individual,net ...
> > RickyBobby wrote:
> >
> > >
> >>"Bigbird" <Bigbird.UsenetREMOVTHS@Gmail,com > wrote in message
> > > news:xn0fp38ru3ikyo0003@news.individual,net ...
> >>> RickyBobby wrote:
> > > >
> >>> > That Nazi-loving stuff is a bad bit of business for a public
> >>> > figure.
> > > >
> >>> Not a good way of opening up the US market then?
> > > >
> >>> --
> > >
> > > The US market is awash with sport and we do not wish for a dull
> > > one with no passing on the track. Same goes for those one-nil
> > > boring football matches. You Europeans enjoy that non-competitive
> > > stuff but we need to see some action.
> > >
> >
> > Whooshy whoosh woosh.
> >
> > Lol, you clearly don't appreciate sport, only a scoreline.
> >
> > Give yourself minus 5 points...no make that minus 50,000 points.
> >
> >
>
> When we are watching an event we want to see the lead change hands or
> at least the reasonable expectation of such. Formula One and higher
> level football do not offer that opportunity. America is the land of
> the free and people can rise and fall and we want to see that
> reflected in our sport. The rest of the world is on some sort of
> class system and that is the last thing you want to see. So you have
> your sort of no overtaking sport and we have our sort of much
> overtaking sport. It is all good.

Quite. You get back to you theatrics and we'll get on with the sport.

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If you would like to advertise here f*ck off!

Reply from: RickyBobby
Date: 19 Apr 2008, 00:19
Re: Bernie "turning up the pressure"


"Bigbird" <Bigbird.UsenetREMOVTHS@Gmail,com > wrote in message
news:xn0fp3cdn3nihn3007@news.individual,net ...
> RickyBobby wrote:
>
>>
>> "Bigbird" <Bigbird.UsenetREMOVTHS@Gmail,com > wrote in message
>> news:xn0fp3bfg3m51rk004@news.individual,net ...
>> > RickyBobby wrote:
>> >
>> > >
>> >>"Bigbird" <Bigbird.UsenetREMOVTHS@Gmail,com > wrote in message
>> > > news:xn0fp38ru3ikyo0003@news.individual,net ...
>> >>> RickyBobby wrote:
>> > > >
>> >>> > That Nazi-loving stuff is a bad bit of business for a public
>> >>> > figure.
>> > > >
>> >>> Not a good way of opening up the US market then?
>> > > >
>> >>> --
>> > >
>> > > The US market is awash with sport and we do not wish for a dull
>> > > one with no passing on the track. Same goes for those one-nil
>> > > boring football matches. You Europeans enjoy that non-competitive
>> > > stuff but we need to see some action.
>> > >
>> >
>> > Whooshy whoosh woosh.
>> >
>> > Lol, you clearly don't appreciate sport, only a scoreline.
>> >
>> > Give yourself minus 5 points...no make that minus 50,000 points.
>> >
>> >
>>
>> When we are watching an event we want to see the lead change hands or
>> at least the reasonable expectation of such. Formula One and higher
>> level football do not offer that opportunity. America is the land of
>> the free and people can rise and fall and we want to see that
>> reflected in our sport. The rest of the world is on some sort of
>> class system and that is the last thing you want to see. So you have
>> your sort of no overtaking sport and we have our sort of much
>> overtaking sport. It is all good.
>
> Quite. You get back to you theatrics and we'll get on with the sport.
>
>

A lead change is not theatrics. The bit in higher level football and
Formula One where the lads get paid scads of money to do nothing but show up
is more like theatrics in my opinion.

And do not think that Formula One drivers are special. The American sedan
driver Jeff Gordon got in Montoya's BMW and equalled his time within two
laps.

We have drivers in another form of racing who can go from a stop to 500KPH
in four seconds. Try that in Europe.


Reply from: AC
Date: 19 Apr 2008, 03:50
Re: Bernie "turning up the pressure"


"RickyBobby" <nascar42@cox,net > wrote in message
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>
> "Bigbird" <Bigbird.UsenetREMOVTHS@Gmail,com > wrote in message
> news:xn0fp3cdn3nihn3007@news.individual,net ...
>> RickyBobby wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> "Bigbird" <Bigbird.UsenetREMOVTHS@Gmail,com > wrote in message
>>> news:xn0fp3bfg3m51rk004@news.individual,net ...
>>> > RickyBobby wrote:
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> >>"Bigbird" <Bigbird.UsenetREMOVTHS@Gmail,com > wrote in message
>>> > > news:xn0fp38ru3ikyo0003@news.individual,net ...
>>> >>> RickyBobby wrote:
>>> > > >
>>> >>> > That Nazi-loving stuff is a bad bit of business for a public
>>> >>> > figure.
>>> > > >
>>> >>> Not a good way of opening up the US market then?
>>> > > >
>>> >>> --
>>> > >
>>> > > The US market is awash with sport and we do not wish for a dull
>>> > > one with no passing on the track. Same goes for those one-nil
>>> > > boring football matches. You Europeans enjoy that non-competitive
>>> > > stuff but we need to see some action.
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> > Whooshy whoosh woosh.
>>> >
>>> > Lol, you clearly don't appreciate sport, only a scoreline.
>>> >
>>> > Give yourself minus 5 points...no make that minus 50,000 points.
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>> When we are watching an event we want to see the lead change hands or
>>> at least the reasonable expectation of such. Formula One and higher
>>> level football do not offer that opportunity. America is the land of
>>> the free and people can rise and fall and we want to see that
>>> reflected in our sport. The rest of the world is on some sort of
>>> class system and that is the last thing you want to see. So you have
>>> your sort of no overtaking sport and we have our sort of much
>>> overtaking sport. It is all good.
>>
>> Quite. You get back to you theatrics and we'll get on with the sport.
>>
>>
>
> A lead change is not theatrics. The bit in higher level football and
> Formula One where the lads get paid scads of money to do nothing but show
> up is more like theatrics in my opinion.
>
> And do not think that Formula One drivers are special. The American
> sedan driver Jeff Gordon got in Montoya's BMW and equalled his time within
> two laps.
>
> We have drivers in another form of racing who can go from a stop to 500KPH
> in four seconds. Try that in Europe.

What BMW?

AC



Reply from: Kenny
Date: 19 Apr 2008, 20:09
Re: Bernie "turning up the pressure"

"RickyBobby" <nascar42@cox,net > wrote in message
news:N79Oj.12496$CO2.673@newsfe12.phx...
> We have drivers in another form of racing who can go from a stop to 500KPH
> in four seconds. Try that in Europe.

Europe has drag racing too dickhead.



Reply from: Kenny
Date: 19 Apr 2008, 20:11
Re: Bernie "turning up the pressure"

"RickyBobby" <nascar42@cox,net > wrote in message
news:2B8Oj.88198$497.56476@newsfe14.phx...
> When we are watching an event we want to see the lead change hands or at
> least the reasonable expectation of such. Formula One and higher level
> football do not offer that opportunity. America is the land of the free
> and people can rise and fall and we want to see that reflected in our
> sport. The rest of the world is on some sort of class system and that is
> the last thing you want to see. So you have your sort of no overtaking
> sport and we have our sort of much overtaking sport. It is all good.


You should try watching rugby. It's a bit like Amerisan football except it's
played by men, not girls wearing body armour.



Reply from: gs
Date: 19 Apr 2008, 08:11
Re: Bernie "turning up the pressure"


"RickyBobby" <nascar42@cox,net > wrote in message
news:FP6Oj.167200$nr1.71074@newsfe13.phx...
>
> "Bigbird" <Bigbird.UsenetREMOVTHS@Gmail,com > wrote in message
> news:xn0fp38ru3ikyo0003@news.individual,net ...
>> RickyBobby wrote:
>>
>>> That Nazi-loving stuff is a bad bit of business for a public figure.
>>
>> Not a good way of opening up the US market then?
>>
>> --
>>
>
> The US market is awash with sport and we do not wish for a dull one with
> no passing on the track. Same goes for those one-nil boring football
> matches. You Europeans enjoy that non-competitive stuff but we need to see
> some action.
>
> To each their own. Football is the biggest sport in the world and Formula
> One has the most advanced cars in the world but we can plod along quite
> nicely without either. Nobody in the rest of the world cares much for
> American sport either so it is a fair deal all the way around.
>
> You had your chance and you ruined it with that six car race a couple of
> seasons back. You will not recieve a second chance. Do your races in
> sandstorms and malaria swamplands.
Here's a tip for you then idiot, if you dislike F1 so much try not to visit
a F1 newsgroup - some people are just a disgrace to the gene pool they're so
stupid.




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