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Schuy Jr Races

Reply from: Emma
Date: 22 Apr 2008, 15:24
Schuy Jr Races


No, not Ralf but Mick!

From Autosport:-

Michael Schumacher's son Mick has followed into his father's footsteps,
taking part in his first karting race in Spain.

The nine-year-old raced in Sils, Girona, which hosted a round of the
Open RACC championship.

Mick used his mother's last name - Betsch - in order to try to go
unnoticed on his race debut. However, he was wearing a helmet with a
design very similar to his father's, except painted blue instead of red.

Bild magazine reports Mick travelled to Spain with his grandfather Rolf.
The young Schumacher finished eighth and tenth in the races.

Seven-time champion Schumacher had said in the past that he would prefer
if his son did not follow into his footsteps.

"I would prefer he plays golf or tennis or something like that,"
Schumacher said back in 2005. "It's pretty tough to imagine my little
one following in my steps.

"If you think about what you guys would think and do and ask and so on,
what pressure he would be under before he gets out of the shadow.

"That's a very heavy burden and I don't see any reason to emphasise to
him to get to this. If he has another interest I would be much more
happy."


--
Emma - The Chocolate Monster
http :// chocmonsterland.blog,com

Reply from: Paul-B
Date: 22 Apr 2008, 16:07
Re: Schuy Jr Races

Emma wrote:

>
> No, not Ralf but Mick!
>
> From Autosport:-
>
> Michael Schumacher's son Mick has followed into his father's
> footsteps, taking part in his first karting race in Spain.
>
> The nine-year-old raced in Sils, Girona, which hosted a round of the
> Open RACC championship.
>
> Mick used his mother's last name - Betsch - in order to try to go
> unnoticed on his race debut. However, he was wearing a helmet with a
> design very similar to his father's, except painted blue instead of
> red.
>
> Bild magazine reports Mick travelled to Spain with his grandfather
> Rolf. The young Schumacher finished eighth and tenth in the races.
>
> Seven-time champion Schumacher had said in the past that he would
> prefer if his son did not follow into his footsteps.
>
> "I would prefer he plays golf or tennis or something like that,"
> Schumacher said back in 2005. "It's pretty tough to imagine my little
> one following in my steps.
>
> "If you think about what you guys would think and do and ask and so
> on, what pressure he would be under before he gets out of the shadow.
>
> "That's a very heavy burden and I don't see any reason to emphasise
> to him to get to this. If he has another interest I would be much
> more happy."

Just when you thought it was safe to go back in the water...

--
Paul-B

Reply from: Frank Adam
Date: 22 Apr 2008, 17:48
Re: Schuy Jr Races

On 22 Apr 2008 14:07:16 GMT, "Paul-B" <paul@rasf1,net > wrote:

>Emma wrote:
>
>>
>> No, not Ralf but Mick!
>>
>> From Autosport:-
>>
>> Michael Schumacher's son Mick has followed into his father's
>> footsteps, taking part in his first karting race in Spain.
>>
>> The nine-year-old raced in Sils, Girona, which hosted a round of the
>> Open RACC championship.
>>
>> Mick used his mother's last name - Betsch - in order to try to go
>> unnoticed on his race debut. However, he was wearing a helmet with a
>> design very similar to his father's, except painted blue instead of
>> red.
>>
>> Bild magazine reports Mick travelled to Spain with his grandfather
>> Rolf. The young Schumacher finished eighth and tenth in the races.
>>
>> Seven-time champion Schumacher had said in the past that he would
>> prefer if his son did not follow into his footsteps.
>>
>> "I would prefer he plays golf or tennis or something like that,"
>> Schumacher said back in 2005. "It's pretty tough to imagine my little
>> one following in my steps.
>>
>> "If you think about what you guys would think and do and ask and so
>> on, what pressure he would be under before he gets out of the shadow.
>>
>> "That's a very heavy burden and I don't see any reason to emphasise
>> to him to get to this. If he has another interest I would be much
>> more happy."
>
>Just when you thought it was safe to go back in the water...
>
I truly think that a generation skip should be enforced. I hate seeing
these kids getting into racing series because dad used to race, and
has the money and the contacts to push the kid through.

--

Regards, Frank

Reply from: Emma
Date: 22 Apr 2008, 18:05
Re: Schuy Jr Races

Frank Adam <fajp@notthis.optushome,com .au> wrote:
>On 22 Apr 2008 14:07:16 GMT, "Paul-B" <paul@rasf1,net > wrote:
>
>>Emma wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> No, not Ralf but Mick!
>>>
>>> From Autosport:-
>>>
>>> Michael Schumacher's son Mick has followed into his father's
>>> footsteps, taking part in his first karting race in Spain.
>>>
>>> The nine-year-old raced in Sils, Girona, which hosted a round of the
>>> Open RACC championship.
>>>
>>> Mick used his mother's last name - Betsch - in order to try to go
>>> unnoticed on his race debut. However, he was wearing a helmet with a
>>> design very similar to his father's, except painted blue instead of
>>> red.
>>>
>>> Bild magazine reports Mick travelled to Spain with his grandfather
>>> Rolf. The young Schumacher finished eighth and tenth in the races.
>>>
>>> Seven-time champion Schumacher had said in the past that he would
>>> prefer if his son did not follow into his footsteps.
>>>
>>> "I would prefer he plays golf or tennis or something like that,"
>>> Schumacher said back in 2005. "It's pretty tough to imagine my little
>>> one following in my steps.
>>>
>>> "If you think about what you guys would think and do and ask and so
>>> on, what pressure he would be under before he gets out of the shadow.
>>>
>>> "That's a very heavy burden and I don't see any reason to emphasise
>>> to him to get to this. If he has another interest I would be much
>>> more happy."
>>
>>Just when you thought it was safe to go back in the water...
>>
>I truly think that a generation skip should be enforced. I hate seeing
>these kids getting into racing series because dad used to race, and
>has the money and the contacts to push the kid through.

Did you actually read the quotes from Michael? Doesn't sound like he's
forcing Mick to do anything.

--
Emma - The Chocolate Monster
http :// chocmonsterland.blog,com

Reply from: Frank Adam
Date: 24 Apr 2008, 07:52
Re: Schuy Jr Races

On Tue, 22 Apr 2008 17:05:24 +0100, Emma <Emma@excalvehs.demon.co.uk>
wrote:

>>I truly think that a generation skip should be enforced. I hate seeing
>>these kids getting into racing series because dad used to race, and
>>has the money and the contacts to push the kid through.
>
>Did you actually read the quotes from Michael? Doesn't sound like he's
>forcing Mick to do anything.
>
Yes i did and wasn't talking about Mick, per se..
As things are, a normal parent would do the same and let the child
make up his mind what he wants to become, but if that child decides to
take racing seriously, a normal parent will also give 100% support to
that cause. And therein lies the problem. Which one will get a more
"natural" push ahead the ranks, Joe Blogg's kid or Michael
Schumacher's kid ?

I could also bring Ralf as evidence against siblings being allowed.
;-)

--

Regards, Frank

Reply from: Gongoozler
Date: 22 Apr 2008, 19:08
Re: Schuy Jr Races

Frank Adam wrote:

>I truly think that a generation skip should be enforced. I hate seeing
>these kids getting into racing series because dad used to race, and
>has the money and the contacts to push the kid through.

Trouble is, these kids have often been raised in homes where motor
racing is the be-all and end-all of life so they get keen on it
without being pushed by Dad - sometimes even against his wishes - and
their genes usually ensure that they are good at it.
Damon Hill started in motorcycle racing, rather than cars, so that
people wouldn't think he was trading on his father's name.

--
Trevor

Reply from: Bigbird
Date: 22 Apr 2008, 22:40
Re: Schuy Jr Races

Gongoozler wrote:

> Frank Adam wrote:
>
> > I truly think that a generation skip should be enforced. I hate
> > seeing these kids getting into racing series because dad used to
> > race, and has the money and the contacts to push the kid through.
>
> Trouble is, these kids have often been raised in homes where motor
> racing is the be-all and end-all of life so they get keen on it
> without being pushed by Dad - sometimes even against his wishes - and
> their genes usually ensure that they are good at it.
> Damon Hill started in motorcycle racing, rather than cars, so that
> people wouldn't think he was trading on his father's name.

Do you have a cite for that? I was under the impression he liked and
could afford to race bikes. Wasn't he a motorcycle courier at the time.

--
Pitwall is an online F1 manager game where you receive a team and need
to develop the team to get on the top podium position! Pitwall is
entirely free! No sh*t!
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Reply from: Gongoozler
Date: 23 Apr 2008, 00:02
Re: Schuy Jr Races

Bigbird wrote:

>Gongoozler wrote:

>> Damon Hill started in motorcycle racing, rather than cars, so that
>> people wouldn't think he was trading on his father's name.
>
>Do you have a cite for that? I was under the impression he liked and
>could afford to race bikes. Wasn't he a motorcycle courier at the time.

Not a very good one. We lived near the Hill family in Mill Hill at
that time and Neil Graham, the son of one of our friends, had been to
school with Damon (Haberdashers Askes) and remained very friendly with
him. I think it must have been through Neil that I got the impression
Damon was not keen on exploiting his family name or his father's
contacts.
However you are certainly correct in saying that Damon worked as a
motorcycle courier. The family was hard up as a result of legal action
following Graham's death and I believe that Damon supported himself in
this way whilst he was a student in the early 1980's.
All a bit nebulous and anecdotal I fear.
--
Trevor

Reply from: Phil Carmody
Date: 23 Apr 2008, 10:02
Re: Schuy Jr Races

Gongoozler <trevor@ladyelg.fsnet.co.uk> writes:
> Bigbird wrote:
>
>>Gongoozler wrote:
>
>>> Damon Hill started in motorcycle racing, rather than cars, so that
>>> people wouldn't think he was trading on his father's name.
>>
>>Do you have a cite for that? I was under the impression he liked and
>>could afford to race bikes. Wasn't he a motorcycle courier at the time.
>
> Not a very good one. We lived near the Hill family in Mill Hill at
> that time and Neil Graham, the son of one of our friends, had been to
> school with Damon (Haberdashers Askes)

Same school as Jean Girard too. :-)

Phil
--
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-- Microsoft voice recognition live demonstration

Reply from: Gongoozler
Date: 23 Apr 2008, 10:57
Re: Schuy Jr Races

Phil Carmody wrote:

>Gongoozler writes:

>> Not a very good one. We lived near the Hill family in Mill Hill at
>> that time and Neil Graham, the son of one of our friends, had been to
>> school with Damon (Haberdashers Askes)
>
>Same school as Jean Girard too. :-)

Quite right!
Haberdashers is what Brits call a public school (i.e. a rather posh
*private* school).

--
Trevor

Reply from: Bigbird
Date: 23 Apr 2008, 14:26
Re: Schuy Jr Races

Gongoozler wrote:

> Phil Carmody wrote:
>
> > Gongoozler writes:
>
> >> Not a very good one. We lived near the Hill family in Mill Hill at
> >> that time and Neil Graham, the son of one of our friends, had been
> to >> school with Damon (Haberdashers Askes)
> >
> > Same school as Jean Girard too. :-)
>
> Quite right!
> Haberdashers is what Brits call a public school (i.e. a rather posh
> private school).

I say, they seem to have fallen down the order on the sports field
since my day. Struggled to find an event where they beat my old school.

--
Pitwall is an online F1 manager game where you receive a team and need
to develop the team to get on the top podium position! Pitwall is
entirely free! No sh*t!
http :// tinyurl,com /5y6ls3

Reply from: peter
Date: 23 Apr 2008, 16:25
Re: Schuy Jr Races

Bigbird <Bigbird.UsenetREMOVTHS@Gmail,com > writes
>Gongoozler wrote:
>> Phil Carmody wrote:
>> > Gongoozler writes:
>> >> Not a very good one. We lived near the Hill family in Mill Hill at
>> >> that time and Neil Graham, the son of one of our friends, had been
>> to >> school with Damon (Haberdashers Askes)
>> >
>> > Same school as Jean Girard too. :-)
>>
>> Quite right!
>> Haberdashers is what Brits call a public school (i.e. a rather posh
>> private school).
>
>I say, they seem to have fallen down the order on the sports field
>since my day. Struggled to find an event where they beat my old school.
>
Good old St Trinians!
--
Peter

Reply from: Bigbird
Date: 23 Apr 2008, 17:59
Re: Schuy Jr Races

peter wrote:

> Bigbird <Bigbird.UsenetREMOVTHS@Gmail,com > writes
> > Gongoozler wrote:
> >> Phil Carmody wrote:
> >>> Gongoozler writes:
> >>>> Not a very good one. We lived near the Hill family in Mill Hill
> at >>>> that time and Neil Graham, the son of one of our friends, had
> been >>to >> school with Damon (Haberdashers Askes)
> > > >
> >>> Same school as Jean Girard too. :-)
> > >
> > > Quite right!
> > > Haberdashers is what Brits call a public school (i.e. a rather
> > > posh private school).
> >
> > I say, they seem to have fallen down the order on the sports field
> > since my day. Struggled to find an event where they beat my old
> > school.
> >
> Good old St Trinians!

Dug out one of my old school pics for you.
http :// tinyurl,com /648g95

--
Pitwall is an online F1 manager game where you receive a team and need
to develop the team to get on the top podium position! Pitwall is
entirely free! No sh*t!
http :// tinyurl,com /5y6ls3

Reply from: Peter R
Date: 23 Apr 2008, 18:15
Re: Schuy Jr Races


"Bigbird" <Bigbird.UsenetREMOVTHS@Gmail,com > wrote in message
news:xn0fpa3xlag56gr002@news.individual,net ...
> peter wrote:
>
>> Bigbird <Bigbird.UsenetREMOVTHS@Gmail,com > writes
>> > Gongoozler wrote:
>> >> Phil Carmody wrote:
>> >>> Gongoozler writes:
>> >>>> Not a very good one. We lived near the Hill family in Mill Hill
>> at >>>> that time and Neil Graham, the son of one of our friends, had
>> been >>to >> school with Damon (Haberdashers Askes)
>> > > >
>> >>> Same school as Jean Girard too. :-)
>> > >
>> > > Quite right!
>> > > Haberdashers is what Brits call a public school (i.e. a rather
>> > > posh private school).
>> >
>> > I say, they seem to have fallen down the order on the sports field
>> > since my day. Struggled to find an event where they beat my old
>> > school.
>> >
>> Good old St Trinians!
>
> Dug out one of my old school pics for you.
> http :// tinyurl,com /648g95
>
> --
Jolly hockey sticks girls!

Peter R.



Reply from: Frank Adam
Date: 24 Apr 2008, 07:58
Re: Schuy Jr Races

On Tue, 22 Apr 2008 18:08:24 +0100, Gongoozler
<trevor@ladyelg.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:

>Frank Adam wrote:
>
>>I truly think that a generation skip should be enforced. I hate seeing
>>these kids getting into racing series because dad used to race, and
>>has the money and the contacts to push the kid through.
>
>Trouble is, these kids have often been raised in homes where motor
>racing is the be-all and end-all of life so they get keen on it
>without being pushed by Dad - sometimes even against his wishes - and
>their genes usually ensure that they are good at it.
>
I hate the word "talent".
A "general aptitude" is better to describe what is needed to make it
to the top and if the kid has ready access to track and equipment, a
good backing(both financial/managarial and personal) and not to
mention a succesful Dad in racing to look up to, he has the best
chance to develop a strong will to succeed in racing..
I think it is pretty much obvious that what made MS were his
determination, work ethics and mental strength. He had the correct
general aptitude to that particular job and it's a fair bet that had
he applied that same attitude to accounting he'd have made a damn good
accountant.. Talent or no talent.
Whether he had raw talent or not, who knows ? Frentzen whipped him in
the touring cars, so did Frentzen start with more talent, then lost it
in F1, or was Michael already sandbagging for F1 ? :)


>Damon Hill started in motorcycle racing, rather than cars, so that
>people wouldn't think he was trading on his father's name.
>
And people will still think that, but i think Graham died well before
Damon started racing cycles ?
None the less, the name brings attention to the driver and if Damon
came 2nd in a cycle race, the media would spend more time on him than
on whatshisname who actually won. It's just the way it is and all of a
sudden Damon's marketability has just gone up another notch. F1 being
what it is nowdays, it is what you bring into a team in monetary terms
that makes half the criteria in the selection.

--

Regards, Frank


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