Finnish dominance on F1 tracks

Finnish dominance on F1 tracks

Once again a Finn the fastest man on track and the other Finns following not
far behind. Is there any scientific research made on the Finnish superiority
in motorsports?

Re: Finnish dominance on F1 tracks


"Markku Grönroos" <kurkku@hassuserveri.fi> wrote in message
news:jPiQj.342250$Nr1.242532@reader1.news.saunalahti.fi...
> Once again a Finn the fastest man on track and the other Finns following
> not far behind. Is there any scientific research made on the Finnish
> superiority in motorsports?

Yeah, there's fuck all to do in Finland except drive.

Re: Finnish dominance on F1 tracks

Markku Grönroos wrote:

> Once again a Finn the fastest man on track and the other Finns
> following not far behind. Is there any scientific research made on
> the Finnish superiority in motorsports?

Which motorsports are you referring to? There are few, if any Finns,
superior or otherwise, in MotoGP, for instance, nor in Endurance
racing, Drag racing and a whole host of other motorsports.

In 2007 there were only 6 Finnish Champions, Kimi Räikkönen in F1,
Tommi Limonen in Finnish Formula 3, Mika Mäki in Italian Formula
Renault, Jussi Välimäki, Jari Ketomaa and Joonas Lindroos in Finnish
Rally Groups A, N and n respectively, and only 2 in motorcyling Enduro.

In the same year there were 20 German Champions in 4-wheel
motor-racing, 2 in two-wheel motor-racing. There were 40 British
Champions in 4-wheel motor-racing, and 6 in two-wheel motor-racing...
the list goes on and on.

Not really "Finnish dominance", is it?

--
Paul-B

Re: Finnish dominance on F1 tracks


"Paul-B" <paul@rasf1 . net > kirjoitti
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> Markku Grönroos wrote:
>
>
> In the same year there were 20 German Champions in 4-wheel
> motor-racing, 2 in two-wheel motor-racing. There were 40 British
> Champions in 4-wheel motor-racing, and 6 in two-wheel motor-racing...
> the list goes on and on.
>
These are minor leagues. As far as I know Brits seldom win anything. The
same applies to the Germans.

> Not really "Finnish dominance", is it?
>
> --
> Paul-B

Re: Finnish dominance on F1 tracks

Markku Grönroos wrote:

>
> "Paul-B" <paul@rasf1 . net > kirjoitti
> viestissä:67dt6cF2of3vqU1@mid.individual . net ...
> > Markku Grönroos wrote:
> >
> >
> > In the same year there were 20 German Champions in 4-wheel
> > motor-racing, 2 in two-wheel motor-racing. There were 40 British
> > Champions in 4-wheel motor-racing, and 6 in two-wheel
> > motor-racing... the list goes on and on.
> >
> These are minor leagues. As far as I know Brits seldom win anything.
> The same applies to the Germans.
>
> > Not really "Finnish dominance", is it?
> >
> > -- Paul-B

LOL!

Troll-meter - 1/10

--
Paul-B

Re: Finnish dominance on F1 tracks


"Paul-B" <paul@rasf1 . net > wrote in message
news:67du28F2oaargU1@mid.individual . net ...
> Markku Grönroos wrote:
>
>>
>> "Paul-B" <paul@rasf1 . net > kirjoitti
>> viestissä:67dt6cF2of3vqU1@mid.individual . net ...
>> > Markku Grönroos wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > In the same year there were 20 German Champions in 4-wheel
>> > motor-racing, 2 in two-wheel motor-racing. There were 40 British
>> > Champions in 4-wheel motor-racing, and 6 in two-wheel
>> > motor-racing... the list goes on and on.
>> >
>> These are minor leagues. As far as I know Brits seldom win anything.
>> The same applies to the Germans.
>>
>> > Not really "Finnish dominance", is it?
>> >
>> > -- Paul-B
>
> LOL!
>
> Troll-meter - 1/10
>
> --
> Paul-B

Whats the "1" for?

AC

Re: Finnish dominance on F1 tracks

AC wrote:

>
> "Paul-B" <paul@rasf1 . net > wrote in message
> news:67du28F2oaargU1@mid.individual . net ...
> > Markku Grvnroos wrote:
> >
> > >
> >>"Paul-B" <paul@rasf1 . net > kirjoitti
> > > viestissd:67dt6cF2of3vqU1@mid.individual . net ...
> >>> Markku Grvnroos wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> >>> In the same year there were 20 German Champions in 4-wheel
> >>> motor-racing, 2 in two-wheel motor-racing. There were 40 British
> >>> Champions in 4-wheel motor-racing, and 6 in two-wheel
> >>> motor-racing... the list goes on and on.
> > > >
> > > These are minor leagues. As far as I know Brits seldom win
> > > anything. The same applies to the Germans.
> > >
> >>> Not really "Finnish dominance", is it?
> > > >
> >>> -- Paul-B
> >
> > LOL!
> >
> > Troll-meter - 1/10
> >
> > -- Paul-B
>
> Whats the "1" for?
>
> AC

Persistance?

--
Paul-B

Re: Finnish dominance on F1 tracks


"Paul-B" <paul@rasf1 . net > kirjoitti
viestissä:67e4rnF2p01m4U1@mid.individual . net ...
> AC wrote:
>
>>
>> "Paul-B" <paul@rasf1 . net > wrote in message
>> news:67du28F2oaargU1@mid.individual . net ...
>> > Markku Grvnroos wrote:
>> >
>> > >
>> >>"Paul-B" <paul@rasf1 . net > kirjoitti
>> > > viestissd:67dt6cF2of3vqU1@mid.individual . net ...
>> >>> Markku Grvnroos wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> >>> In the same year there were 20 German Champions in 4-wheel
>> >>> motor-racing, 2 in two-wheel motor-racing. There were 40 British
>> >>> Champions in 4-wheel motor-racing, and 6 in two-wheel
>> >>> motor-racing... the list goes on and on.
>> > > >
>> > > These are minor leagues. As far as I know Brits seldom win
>> > > anything. The same applies to the Germans.
>> > >
>> >>> Not really "Finnish dominance", is it?
>> > > >
>> >>> -- Paul-B
>> >
>> > LOL!
>> >
>> > Troll-meter - 1/10
>> >
>> > -- Paul-B
>>
>> Whats the "1" for?
>>
>> AC
>
> Persistance?
>
> --
Persistence? I am not fishing. I am just curious about the fact that so many
Finns excel in motorsports.

Re: Finnish dominance on F1 tracks

Markku Grönroos wrote:

>
> "Paul-B" <paul@rasf1 . net > kirjoitti
> viestissä:67e4rnF2p01m4U1@mid.individual . net ...
> > AC wrote:
> >
> > >
> >>"Paul-B" <paul@rasf1 . net > wrote in message
> > > news:67du28F2oaargU1@mid.individual . net ...
> >>> Markku Grvnroos wrote:
> > > >
> >>> >
> >>>>"Paul-B" <paul@rasf1 . net > kirjoitti
> >>> > viestissd:67dt6cF2of3vqU1@mid.individual . net ...
> >>>>> Markku Grvnroos wrote:
> >>> > >
> >>> > >
> >>>>> In the same year there were 20 German Champions in 4-wheel
> >>>>> motor-racing, 2 in two-wheel motor-racing. There were 40 British
> >>>>> Champions in 4-wheel motor-racing, and 6 in two-wheel
> >>>>> motor-racing... the list goes on and on.
> >>> > >
> >>> > These are minor leagues. As far as I know Brits seldom win
> >>> > anything. The same applies to the Germans.
> >>> >
> >>>>> Not really "Finnish dominance", is it?
> >>> > >
> >>>>> -- Paul-B
> > > >
> >>> LOL!
> > > >
> >>> Troll-meter - 1/10
> > > >
> >>> -- Paul-B
> > >
> > > Whats the "1" for?
> > >
> > > AC
> >
> > Persistance?
> >
> > --
> Persistence? I am not fishing. I am just curious about the fact that
> so many Finns excel in motorsports.

They don't. In fact, as the figures I quoted show, they are, if
anything, under-represented in the league of top motorsport drivers.

--
Paul-B

Re: Finnish dominance on F1 tracks


"Paul-B" <paul@rasf1 . net > kirjoitti
viestissä:67e5hdF2o40tpU1@mid.individual . net ...
>> Persistence? I am not fishing. I am just curious about the fact that
>> so many Finns excel in motorsports.
>
> They don't. In fact, as the figures I quoted show, they are, if
> anything, under-represented in the league of top motorsport drivers.
>
And who was talking about trolling......

Re: Finnish dominance on F1 tracks

Markku Grönroos wrote:

>
> "Paul-B" <paul@rasf1 . net > kirjoitti
> viestissä:67e5hdF2o40tpU1@mid.individual . net ...
> > > Persistence? I am not fishing. I am just curious about the fact
> > > that so many Finns excel in motorsports.
> >
> > They don't. In fact, as the figures I quoted show, they are, if
> > anything, under-represented in the league of top motorsport drivers.
> >
> And who was talking about trolling......

What?

Are you refuting the figures I quoted? Compared with Germans, French,
Brits, Italians, Americans, Australians, and a host of others Finns
come way down the league.

If you are just referring to Formula 1 the nationality of DWC's since
F1 started is:

UK 8 drivers 12 DWC
Brazil 3 drivers 8 DWC
Germany 1 driver 7 DWC
Argentina 1 driver 5 DWC
France 1 driver 4 DWC
Australia 2 drivers 4 DWC
Austria 2 drivers 4 DWC
Finland 3 drivers 4 DWC
Italy 2 drivers 3 DWC
USA 2 drivers 2 DWC
Spain 1 driver 2 DWC
Canada 1 driver 1 DWC
New Zealand 1 driver 1 DWC
South Africa 1 driver 1 DWC

I'd be interested to know where you get your information that "Brits
seldom win anything", since we top the table with 5 more drivers than
Finland has and those drivers have 8 more DWC's than Finnish drivers.

--
Paul-B

Re: Finnish dominance on F1 tracks


"Paul-B" <paul@rasf1 . net > kirjoitti
viestissä:67e76oF2o976tU1@mid.individual . net ...
>
> If you are just referring to Formula 1 the nationality of DWC's since
> F1 started is:
>
> UK 8 drivers 12 DWC

It is same with hockey. As long as Canadians were the only ones around to
push the puck from one place to another they were best. But since the game
evolved and gained international recognation, it has been a bit different
story. British efforts in F1 have been mediocre in recent decades. Perhaps
the only figure worth mentioning was this Mansel fellow. He wasn't the
fastest racer around but he was highly spirited. That counts too.

Re: Finnish dominance on F1 tracks

Paul-B wrote:

>I'd be interested to know where you get your information that "Brits
>seldom win anything", since we top the table with 5 more drivers than
>Finland has and those drivers have 8 more DWC's than Finnish drivers.

Yes, go on Old Chap, do tell.
--
Henry Birkin Bt.

"To be a sportsman is nothing but to be sporting is everything and that is what no one understands but an Englishman, and not all of them."
Eden Philpotts (1862-1960)

Re: Finnish dominance on F1 tracks

"Paul-B" <paul@rasf1 . net > writes:
> Markku Grönroos wrote:
>> "Paul-B" <paul@rasf1 . net > kirjoitti
>> viestissä:67e5hdF2o40tpU1@mid.individual . net ...
>> > > Persistence? I am not fishing. I am just curious about the fact
>> > > that so many Finns excel in motorsports.
>> >
>> > They don't. In fact, as the figures I quoted show, they are, if
>> > anything, under-represented in the league of top motorsport drivers.
>> >
>> And who was talking about trolling......
>
> What?
>
> Are you refuting the figures I quoted? Compared with Germans, French,
> Brits, Italians, Americans, Australians, and a host of others Finns
> come way down the league.
>
> If you are just referring to Formula 1 the nationality of DWC's since
> F1 started is:
>
> UK 8 drivers 12 DWC
> Brazil 3 drivers 8 DWC
> Germany 1 driver 7 DWC
> Argentina 1 driver 5 DWC
> France 1 driver 4 DWC
> Australia 2 drivers 4 DWC
> Austria 2 drivers 4 DWC
> Finland 3 drivers 4 DWC
> Italy 2 drivers 3 DWC
> USA 2 drivers 2 DWC
> Spain 1 driver 2 DWC
> Canada 1 driver 1 DWC
> New Zealand 1 driver 1 DWC
> South Africa 1 driver 1 DWC
>
> I'd be interested to know where you get your information that "Brits
> seldom win anything", since we top the table with 5 more drivers than
> Finland has and those drivers have 8 more DWC's than Finnish drivers.

And now for your finale - what percentage of each country's
population is a DWC?

Phil
--
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Re: Finnish dominance on F1 tracks

Phil Carmody wrote:
>
>>[snipped]
>
> And now for your finale - what percentage of each country's
> population is a DWC?

I'd hazard a guess at the Scotts being at the top of the list.

Cheers

Geoff