ITV commentary (Spain) - crap

Firstly, ITV as per their trademark, miss one of the restarts of the
race from safety car because the adverts were far more important.

Secondly, the useless race commentators, they both suggested that it's
good that the Ferrari's did not walk away into the distance in the
race, suggesting they were not that good.

If you are already running first and second and can easily put in fast
laps, what is the point of running at full speed, when you can just
slow down, use lower engine revs and lessen brake wear, and
more-or-less guarantee the car coming home?

Can the commentators at least get their brain in gear before talking?
You'd expect it of James Allen, but for Martin Brundle to do the same!

To top it off, Martin saying Lewis Hamilton is driver of the race,
give me a break, completely lack-luster performace from Lewis all
race.

On 27 Apr, 13:56, Ar <Ar@::1.h> wrote:
> Firstly, ITV as per their trademark, miss one of the restarts of the
> race from safety car because the adverts were far more important.
>
> Secondly, the useless race commentators, they both suggested that it's
> good that the Ferrari's did not walk away into the distance in the
> race, suggesting they were not that good.
>
> If you are already running first and second and can easily put in fast
> laps, what is the point of running at full speed, when you can just
> slow down, use lower engine revs and lessen brake wear, and
> more-or-less guarantee the car coming home?
>
> Can the commentators at least get their brain in gear before talking?
> You'd expect it of James Allen, but for Martin Brundle to do the same!
>
> To top it off, Martin saying Lewis Hamilton is driver of the race,
> give me a break, completely lack-luster performace from Lewis all
> race.

Well, it's to be expected for a comment team to root for their own
audence's principal focus... Don't you remember all the Button
comments three years ago? IMO it's fine if comemntators take sides to
some extent. This said the ads are annoying, fortunatelly next year's
going to be on the BBC [even though I watch it on italian TV, where
ads are at most 30secs a slot].

"emuLOAD" <AndreaSassanelli@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> On 27 Apr, 13:56, Ar <Ar@::1.h> wrote:
>> Firstly, ITV as per their trademark, miss one of the restarts of the
>> race from safety car because the adverts were far more important.
>>
>> Secondly, the useless race commentators, they both suggested that it's
>> good that the Ferrari's did not walk away into the distance in the
>> race, suggesting they were not that good.
>>
>> If you are already running first and second and can easily put in fast
>> laps, what is the point of running at full speed, when you can just
>> slow down, use lower engine revs and lessen brake wear, and
>> more-or-less guarantee the car coming home?
>>
>> Can the commentators at least get their brain in gear before talking?
>> You'd expect it of James Allen, but for Martin Brundle to do the same!
>>
>> To top it off, Martin saying Lewis Hamilton is driver of the race,
>> give me a break, completely lack-luster performace from Lewis all
>> race.
>
> Well, it's to be expected for a comment team to root for their own
> audence's principal focus... Don't you remember all the Button
> comments three years ago? IMO it's fine if comemntators take sides to
> some extent. This said the ads are annoying, fortunatelly next year's
> going to be on the BBC [even though I watch it on italian TV, where
> ads are at most 30secs a slot].

So what country broadcasts the unbiased perfect commentary then? If you
don't want British bias, don't watch British broadcasts then.

You lot are like Mary White house. You insist in watching stuff that offends
you and then whine about it. Why are you so drawn to that which you claim to
hate? Like Alex Cunt, you seem to spend your lives looking for stuff to cry
about.

Are you chaps sweating while you do this? Breathing heavy? Blistering you
palms? Masochist Maxes the lot of ya.

AC

On 27 Apr, 16:27, "AC" <x...@xxxx.xxx> wrote:
> "emuLOAD" <AndreaSassane...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> > On 27 Apr, 13:56, Ar <Ar@::1.h> wrote:
> >> Firstly, ITV as per their trademark, miss one of the restarts of the
> >> race from safety car because the adverts were far more important.
>
> >> Secondly, the useless race commentators, they both suggested that it's
> >> good that the Ferrari's did not walk away into the distance in the
> >> race, suggesting they were not that good.
>
> >> If you are already running first and second and can easily put in fast
> >> laps, what is the point of running at full speed, when you can just
> >> slow down, use lower engine revs and lessen brake wear, and
> >> more-or-less guarantee the car coming home?
>
> >> Can the commentators at least get their brain in gear before talking?
> >> You'd expect it of James Allen, but for Martin Brundle to do the same!
>
> >> To top it off, Martin saying Lewis Hamilton is driver of the race,
> >> give me a break, completely lack-luster performace from Lewis all
> >> race.
>
> > Well, it's to be expected for a comment team to root for their own
> > audence's principal focus... Don't you remember all the Button
> > comments three years ago? IMO it's fine if comemntators take sides to
> > some extent. This said the ads are annoying, fortunatelly next year's
> > going to be on the BBC [even though I watch it on italian TV, where
> > ads are at most 30secs a slot].
>
> So what country broadcasts the unbiased perfect commentary then? If you
> don't want British bias, don't watch British broadcasts then.
>
> You lot are like Mary White house. You insist in watching stuff that offends
> you and then whine about it. Why are you so drawn to that which you claim to
> hate? Like Alex Cunt, you seem to spend your lives looking for stuff to cry
> about.
>
> Are you chaps sweating while you do this? Breathing heavy? Blistering you
> palms? Masochist Maxes the lot of ya.
>
> AC

hehwhat?!? O_O i'm assuming you intended to quote him, not me...

"emuLOAD" <AndreaSassanelli@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> On 27 Apr, 13:56, Ar <Ar@::1.h> wrote:
>> Firstly, ITV as per their trademark, miss one of the restarts of the
>> race from safety car because the adverts were far more important.

So???

Watch it on Max's Nazivision if you want the cheating FIArrari glorifying
ever time they're in full cheat mode!

I bet you're against racism too when muzzies blow people up.

The Wizard wrote:

>
> I bet you're against racism too when muzzies blow people up.

Islam is a religion, not a race.

--
Paul-B

Ar wrote:

>To top it off, Martin saying Lewis Hamilton is driver of the race,
>give me a break, completely lack-luster performace from Lewis all
>race.

Certainly not lacklustre, he showed his usual excellent car-control in
a car that clearly wasn't handling particularly well.
Nevertheless, Kimi would be my driver of the day.
--
Trevor

Gongoozler <trevor@ladyelg.fsnet.co.uk> writes
>Ar wrote:
>
>>To top it off, Martin saying Lewis Hamilton is driver of the race,
>>give me a break, completely lack-luster performace from Lewis all
>>race.
>
>Certainly not lacklustre, he showed his usual excellent car-control in
>a car that clearly wasn't handling particularly well.

>Nevertheless, Kimi would be my driver of the day.

Why? He cruised to victory...nothing inspirational.
--
Peter

peter wrote:

>Gongoozler <trevor@ladyelg.fsnet.co.uk> writes
>>Ar wrote:
>>
>>>To top it off, Martin saying Lewis Hamilton is driver of the race,
>>>give me a break, completely lack-luster performace from Lewis all
>>>race.
>>
>>Certainly not lacklustre, he showed his usual excellent car-control in
>>a car that clearly wasn't handling particularly well.
>
>>Nevertheless, Kimi would be my driver of the day.
>
>Why? He cruised to victory...nothing inspirational.

Because he easily dominated the entire field, including his team mate,
and won faultlessly - the object of the exercise I think.

--
Trevor

Gongoozler <trevor@ladyelg.fsnet.co.uk> writes
>peter wrote:
>>Gongoozler <trevor@ladyelg.fsnet.co.uk> writes
>>>Ar wrote:
>>>>To top it off, Martin saying Lewis Hamilton is driver of the race,
>>>>give me a break, completely lack-luster performace from Lewis all
>>>>race.
>>>Certainly not lacklustre, he showed his usual excellent car-control in
>>>a car that clearly wasn't handling particularly well.
>>
>>>Nevertheless, Kimi would be my driver of the day.
>>
>>Why? He cruised to victory...nothing inspirational.
>
>Because he easily dominated the entire field,

Hardly...5 secs covered the first 4 finishers.

>including his team mate,

He out-qualified Massa (for the first time this season?) otherwise they
had similar pace.

>and won faultlessly - the object of the exercise I think.
>
He led from pole and cruised to victory in the fastest car...anything
less would not have done.
Don't get me wrong he did what he had to do but he wasn't pushing
anywhere near as hard as the rest of the field.
There were some determined drives from drivers with lesser equipment;
Webber Kubica and Hamilton and the two Williams drivers for a start.
For my money the driver of the day should go to someone who pushed hard
for his result not to someone who cruised to an easy victory.
--
Peter

peter wrote:

> For my money the driver of the day should go to someone who pushed
> hard for his result not to someone who cruised to an easy victory.

Kubica, for my money. Certainly not Hamilton, who drove a good race but
not enough to get driver of the day.

An honorable mention to Jense, too, good race, smooth driving in that
Honda, from 13th to 6th.

--
Paul-B

In article <67ljqpF2p05a2U1@mid.individual.net>, paul@rasf1.net says...
> Kubica, for my money. Certainly not Hamilton, who drove a good race but
> not enough to get driver of the day.

I'm not sure how you can separate them. They even pitted on the same
laps. About the only way to separate them I think is that LH got past RK
at the start. If one is not deserving then neither is the other. I don't
think either of them deserved it tbh, and I'm a Kubica fan. He just
didn't excite me yesterday I'm afraid.

>
> An honorable mention to Jense, too, good race, smooth driving in that
> Honda, from 13th to 6th.
>

A far better candidate, but as bad a choice as LH afa some people here
are concerned.



--
Alan LeHun

"Paul-B" <paul@rasf1.net> wrote in message
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> An honorable mention to Jense, too, good race, smooth driving in that
> Honda, from 13th to 6th.


Jense is definately due a few good results, but his finishing position in
Spain was more due to cars falling out in front of him.

Paul

Paul Ian Harman wrote:

> "Paul-B" <paul@rasf1.net> wrote in message
> news:67ljqpF2p05a2U1@mid.individual.net...
> > An honorable mention to Jense, too, good race, smooth driving in
> > that Honda, from 13th to 6th.
>
>
> Jense is definately due a few good results, but his finishing
> position in Spain was more due to cars falling out in front of him.
>
> Paul

From 13th on the grid to finishing in 6th place?

Not really due to everyone in front of him falling out, surely?

--
Paul-B

"Paul-B" <paul@rasf1.net> wrote in message
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> Not really due to everyone in front of him falling out, surely?


Here's the grid order, with their finishing position:

1. RAIKKONEN Ferrari 1 =
2. ALONSO Renault DNF
3. MASSA Ferrari 2 =
4. KUBICA BMW 4 -1
5. HAMILTON McLaren 3 +1
6. KOVALAINEN McLaren DNF
7. WEBBER Red Bull 5 =
8. TRULLI Toyota 8 -2
9. HEIDFELD BMW 9 -2
10. PIQUET Renault DNF
11. BARRICHELLO Honda DNF
12. NAKAJIMA Williams 7 =
13. BUTTON Honda 6 +3
14. GLOCK Toyota 11 -1
15. ROSBERG Williams DNF
16. BOURDAIS Toro Rosso DNF
17. COULTHARD Red Bull 12 -1
18. VETTEL Toro Rosso DNF
19. FISICHELLA Force India 10 +2
20. SUTIL Force India DNF
21. DAVIDSON Super Aguri DNF
22. SATO Super Aguri 13 =


In the last column I mark how many places a driver gained (+) or lost (-),
excluding the DNFs; those who didn't move relative to their start position
get an =.

4 cars out in front of Button, moving him from 13th to 9th, so he overtook 3
other cars - one of which was Heidfelt, who had a mare of a race having to
refuel when the pit lane was closed.

Not shabby, so I was a little unfair. Button made the most places of anyone
(+3) after excluding DNFs, followed by Fisichella, followed by Hamilton [off
the start]Everyone else only improved by inheriting positions from DNFs, or
lost positions to those 3.

Paul