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Barrichello on being number two at Ferrari
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Rubens Barrichello said he made the decision to leave Ferrari halfway
through a Grand Prix in 2005.
The Brazilian veteran, who will set a new record as the longest-serving
driver in Formula One history this weekend in Turkey, reveals that the
final straw was a radio call during the infamous US Grand Prix at
Indianapolis.
Despite the fact that only six Bridgestone-shod cars were contesting the
race, Barrichello recalled to the Brazilian television network TV Globo
that he was asked to let his team-mate Michael Schumacher pass him -
despite the German not being in the hunt for the title that year.
"The team invited me to slow my pace so that Michael could get closer to
me and to pass me," Barrichello said.
"In this moment I knew that the time had come for me to go. That race in
the United States was crucial," he added.
Ferrari team members insisted throughout his tenure between 2000 and
2005 that he was joint number one, but Barrichello now concedes that he
was in fact Schumacher's subordinate.
"When I signed the contract," he explained, "there was nothing to
indicate that the drivers would be treated differently.
"
History however records several instances of team orders, most famously
when the Ferrari drivers were booed at Austria in 2002 after Schumacher
inherited Barrichello's lead at the chequered flag.
Barrichello said: "Inside, I was often angry about it, because everyone
claimed that there were no differences between us, but it was an unequal
battle."
Source: GMM
© CAPSIS International
--
"It is painfully obvious to me that the right guy to be world champion
is Lewis”-Bernie Ecclestone
Fritz
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Rubens Barrichello said he made the decision to leave Ferrari halfway
through a Grand Prix in 2005.
The Brazilian veteran, who will set a new record as the longest-serving
driver in Formula One history this weekend in Turkey, reveals that the
final straw was a radio call during the infamous US Grand Prix at
Indianapolis.
Despite the fact that only six Bridgestone-shod cars were contesting the
race, Barrichello recalled to the Brazilian television network TV Globo
that he was asked to let his team-mate Michael Schumacher pass him -
despite the German not being in the hunt for the title that year.
"The team invited me to slow my pace so that Michael could get closer to
me and to pass me," Barrichello said.
"In this moment I knew that the time had come for me to go. That race in
the United States was crucial," he added.
Ferrari team members insisted throughout his tenure between 2000 and
2005 that he was joint number one, but Barrichello now concedes that he
was in fact Schumacher's subordinate.
"When I signed the contract," he explained, "there was nothing to
indicate that the drivers would be treated differently.
"
History however records several instances of team orders, most famously
when the Ferrari drivers were booed at Austria in 2002 after Schumacher
inherited Barrichello's lead at the chequered flag.
Barrichello said: "Inside, I was often angry about it, because everyone
claimed that there were no differences between us, but it was an unequal
battle."
Source: GMM
© CAPSIS International
--
"It is painfully obvious to me that the right guy to be world champion
is Lewis”-Bernie Ecclestone
Fritz
Re: Barrichello on being number two at Ferrari
Fritz wrote...
>
> "When I signed the contract," he explained, "there was nothing to
> indicate that the drivers would be treated differently.
> "
>
He missed the $15 million pay differential ?
Fritz wrote...
>
> "When I signed the contract," he explained, "there was nothing to
> indicate that the drivers would be treated differently.
> "
>
He missed the $15 million pay differential ?
Re: Barrichello on being number two at Ferrari
Fritz <soberfritz@yahoo . com REMOVE> wrote in
news:y95Uj.897$Yp.397@edtnps92:
> "The team invited me to slow my pace so that Michael could get closer
> to me and to pass me," Barrichello said.
>
> "In this moment I knew that the time had come for me to go. That race
> in the United States was crucial," he added.
This is disappointing, and like Austria 2002 completely unnecessary.
There are times when all great drivers need and should be able to rely
on their teammate's support. But this was not one.
Incidentally the context of this is that Schumacher was in front at the
first stops, took on the same amount of fuel two laps later and ended up
over 3.5 seconds behind. The reason apparently being that the team spent
more time checking his tyres than Rubens. Schu passed him in what looked
like a close thing into the first corner after his *second* pitstop.
Something about which Rubens wasn't happy at the time.
I'm not sure whether Schu genuinely *did* have to pass him..
The case for it being genuine is that:
- it was a little close for 'show' (Rubens took to the grass I think)
- Schu's 3 laps prior to that second stop were his 3 fastest of the
race. - Ruben's lap before he stopped the second time was *his* fastest
of the race - Rubens times around that stop were much quicker than
around his first stop
The case for it being contrived is that the gap was 3 seconds prior to
Rubens' stop and there was only 2 laps to make the gap. I suppose the
natural assumption is that RUbens second stop may have been longer than
necessary but that he wasn't a willing passenger.
> Ferrari team members insisted throughout his tenure between 2000 and
> 2005 that he was joint number one, but Barrichello now concedes that
> he was in fact Schumacher's subordinate.
>
> "When I signed the contract," he explained, "there was nothing to
> indicate that the drivers would be treated differently."
That *is* a surprise..
--
CatharticF1
The thinking man:
"They say Kimi's ice-cool, like he's flat-lined, but I think my
subconscious is pretty much like that"
Gracious:
"I was able to trick him into out-braking himself .. I apologise for
that
but .. we got the points, so it doesn't really matter."
And from humble beginnings:
"..avoid getting caught up with all the monkeys at the back."
Lewis Hamilton
Fritz <soberfritz@yahoo . com REMOVE> wrote in
news:y95Uj.897$Yp.397@edtnps92:
> "The team invited me to slow my pace so that Michael could get closer
> to me and to pass me," Barrichello said.
>
> "In this moment I knew that the time had come for me to go. That race
> in the United States was crucial," he added.
This is disappointing, and like Austria 2002 completely unnecessary.
There are times when all great drivers need and should be able to rely
on their teammate's support. But this was not one.
Incidentally the context of this is that Schumacher was in front at the
first stops, took on the same amount of fuel two laps later and ended up
over 3.5 seconds behind. The reason apparently being that the team spent
more time checking his tyres than Rubens. Schu passed him in what looked
like a close thing into the first corner after his *second* pitstop.
Something about which Rubens wasn't happy at the time.
I'm not sure whether Schu genuinely *did* have to pass him..
The case for it being genuine is that:
- it was a little close for 'show' (Rubens took to the grass I think)
- Schu's 3 laps prior to that second stop were his 3 fastest of the
race. - Ruben's lap before he stopped the second time was *his* fastest
of the race - Rubens times around that stop were much quicker than
around his first stop
The case for it being contrived is that the gap was 3 seconds prior to
Rubens' stop and there was only 2 laps to make the gap. I suppose the
natural assumption is that RUbens second stop may have been longer than
necessary but that he wasn't a willing passenger.
> Ferrari team members insisted throughout his tenure between 2000 and
> 2005 that he was joint number one, but Barrichello now concedes that
> he was in fact Schumacher's subordinate.
>
> "When I signed the contract," he explained, "there was nothing to
> indicate that the drivers would be treated differently."
That *is* a surprise..
--
CatharticF1
The thinking man:
"They say Kimi's ice-cool, like he's flat-lined, but I think my
subconscious is pretty much like that"
Gracious:
"I was able to trick him into out-braking himself .. I apologise for
that
but .. we got the points, so it doesn't really matter."
And from humble beginnings:
"..avoid getting caught up with all the monkeys at the back."
Lewis Hamilton
Re: Barrichello on being number two at Ferrari
On 7 May 2008 11:17:17 +1100, CatharticF1 <rasf1poster@gmail . com >
wrote:
>Fritz <soberfritz@yahoo . com REMOVE> wrote in
>news:y95Uj.897$Yp.397@edtnps92:
>
>> "The team invited me to slow my pace so that Michael could get closer
>> to me and to pass me," Barrichello said.
>>
>> "In this moment I knew that the time had come for me to go. That race
>> in the United States was crucial," he added.
>
>This is disappointing, and like Austria 2002 completely unnecessary.
>There are times when all great drivers need and should be able to rely
>on their teammate's support. But this was not one.
>
>Incidentally the context of this
>
Blabla.
The context of this is that it was the final straw for RB. Indicating
that he was asked to pull aside or go slow not one, not two, but one
too many times.
--
Regards, Frank
On 7 May 2008 11:17:17 +1100, CatharticF1 <rasf1poster@gmail . com >
wrote:
>Fritz <soberfritz@yahoo . com REMOVE> wrote in
>news:y95Uj.897$Yp.397@edtnps92:
>
>> "The team invited me to slow my pace so that Michael could get closer
>> to me and to pass me," Barrichello said.
>>
>> "In this moment I knew that the time had come for me to go. That race
>> in the United States was crucial," he added.
>
>This is disappointing, and like Austria 2002 completely unnecessary.
>There are times when all great drivers need and should be able to rely
>on their teammate's support. But this was not one.
>
>Incidentally the context of this
>
Blabla.
The context of this is that it was the final straw for RB. Indicating
that he was asked to pull aside or go slow not one, not two, but one
too many times.
--
Regards, Frank
Re: Barrichello on being number two at Ferrari
"Fritz" <soberfritz@yahoo . com REMOVE> wrote in message
news:y95Uj.897$Yp.397@edtnps92...
> * en.f1-live . com /f1/en/headlines/news/detail/080506090442.shtml
>
>
> Rubens Barrichello said he made the decision to leave Ferrari halfway
> through a Grand Prix in 2005.
>
> The Brazilian veteran, who will set a new record as the longest-serving
> driver in Formula One history this weekend in Turkey, reveals that the
> final straw was a radio call during the infamous US Grand Prix at
> Indianapolis.
>
> Despite the fact that only six Bridgestone-shod cars were contesting the
> race, Barrichello recalled to the Brazilian television network TV Globo
> that he was asked to let his team-mate Michael Schumacher pass him -
> despite the German not being in the hunt for the title that year.
>
> "The team invited me to slow my pace so that Michael could get closer to
> me and to pass me," Barrichello said.
>
> "In this moment I knew that the time had come for me to go. That race in
> the United States was crucial," he added.
>
> Ferrari team members insisted throughout his tenure between 2000 and 2005
> that he was joint number one, but Barrichello now concedes that he was in
> fact Schumacher's subordinate.
>
> "When I signed the contract," he explained, "there was nothing to indicate
> that the drivers would be treated differently.
> "
>
> History however records several instances of team orders, most famously
> when the Ferrari drivers were booed at Austria in 2002 after Schumacher
> inherited Barrichello's lead at the chequered flag.
>
> Barrichello said: "Inside, I was often angry about it, because everyone
> claimed that there were no differences between us, but it was an unequal
> battle."
>
> Source: GMM
> © CAPSIS International
>
>
>
>
> --
> "It is painfully obvious to me that the right guy to be world champion is
> Lewis”-Bernie Ecclestone
>
>
> Fritz
So does that mean FIAerrai will be stripped of there titles becausing of
using team orders ?
"Fritz" <soberfritz@yahoo . com REMOVE> wrote in message
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> * en.f1-live . com /f1/en/headlines/news/detail/080506090442.shtml
>
>
> Rubens Barrichello said he made the decision to leave Ferrari halfway
> through a Grand Prix in 2005.
>
> The Brazilian veteran, who will set a new record as the longest-serving
> driver in Formula One history this weekend in Turkey, reveals that the
> final straw was a radio call during the infamous US Grand Prix at
> Indianapolis.
>
> Despite the fact that only six Bridgestone-shod cars were contesting the
> race, Barrichello recalled to the Brazilian television network TV Globo
> that he was asked to let his team-mate Michael Schumacher pass him -
> despite the German not being in the hunt for the title that year.
>
> "The team invited me to slow my pace so that Michael could get closer to
> me and to pass me," Barrichello said.
>
> "In this moment I knew that the time had come for me to go. That race in
> the United States was crucial," he added.
>
> Ferrari team members insisted throughout his tenure between 2000 and 2005
> that he was joint number one, but Barrichello now concedes that he was in
> fact Schumacher's subordinate.
>
> "When I signed the contract," he explained, "there was nothing to indicate
> that the drivers would be treated differently.
> "
>
> History however records several instances of team orders, most famously
> when the Ferrari drivers were booed at Austria in 2002 after Schumacher
> inherited Barrichello's lead at the chequered flag.
>
> Barrichello said: "Inside, I was often angry about it, because everyone
> claimed that there were no differences between us, but it was an unequal
> battle."
>
> Source: GMM
> © CAPSIS International
>
>
>
>
> --
> "It is painfully obvious to me that the right guy to be world champion is
> Lewis”-Bernie Ecclestone
>
>
> Fritz
So does that mean FIAerrai will be stripped of there titles becausing of
using team orders ?
Re: Barrichello on being number two at Ferrari
>
> Barrichello said: "Inside, I was often angry about it, because everyone
> claimed that there were no differences between us, but it was an unequal
> battle."
>
> Source: GMM
> © CAPSIS International
>
>
It usually is when one guy can drive and the other can't...
>
> Barrichello said: "Inside, I was often angry about it, because everyone
> claimed that there were no differences between us, but it was an unequal
> battle."
>
> Source: GMM
> © CAPSIS International
>
>
It usually is when one guy can drive and the other can't...
Re: Barrichello on being number two at Ferrari
"russell" <rhobman@hotmail . com > wrote in message
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>
>
>>
>> Barrichello said: "Inside, I was often angry about it, because everyone
>> claimed that there were no differences between us, but it was an unequal
>> battle."
>>
>> Source: GMM
>> © CAPSIS International
>>
>>
>
> It usually is when one guy can drive and the other can't...
>
>
So you mean RB could drive and MS could not, you could well be right, if MS
has to be given the win out of a grid of 6 cars he would have needed all the
help he could get amongst a full grid. It's no wonder they have to get all
the help they can from Max 'spank me hard' Mosely
"russell" <rhobman@hotmail . com > wrote in message
news:482180f1$0$28354$c30e37c6@pit-reader.telstra . net ...
>
>
>>
>> Barrichello said: "Inside, I was often angry about it, because everyone
>> claimed that there were no differences between us, but it was an unequal
>> battle."
>>
>> Source: GMM
>> © CAPSIS International
>>
>>
>
> It usually is when one guy can drive and the other can't...
>
>
So you mean RB could drive and MS could not, you could well be right, if MS
has to be given the win out of a grid of 6 cars he would have needed all the
help he could get amongst a full grid. It's no wonder they have to get all
the help they can from Max 'spank me hard' Mosely
Re: Barrichello on being number two at Ferrari
russell wrote:
>
>
>>
>> Barrichello said: "Inside, I was often angry about it, because
>> everyone claimed that there were no differences between us, but it was
>> an unequal battle."
>>
>> Source: GMM
>> © CAPSIS International
>>
>>
>
> It usually is when one guy can drive and the other can't...
Bit more difficult to win races if your team is telling you not to.
--
Phil
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russell wrote:
>
>
>>
>> Barrichello said: "Inside, I was often angry about it, because
>> everyone claimed that there were no differences between us, but it was
>> an unequal battle."
>>
>> Source: GMM
>> © CAPSIS International
>>
>>
>
> It usually is when one guy can drive and the other can't...
Bit more difficult to win races if your team is telling you not to.
--
Phil
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Re: Barrichello on being number two at Ferrari
Well, for me it was more easy to accept Eddi Irvine letting him pas
than watching Barichello doing it!
Well, for me it was more easy to accept Eddi Irvine letting him pas
than watching Barichello doing it!
Re: Barrichello on being number two at Ferrari
"Fritz" <soberfritz@yahoo . com REMOVE> wrote news:y95Uj.897$Yp.397@edtnps92...
> * en.f1-live . com /f1/en/headlines/news/detail/080506090442.shtml
>
>
> Rubens Barrichello said he made the decision to leave Ferrari halfway
> through a Grand Prix in 2005.
>
> The Brazilian veteran, who will set a new record as the longest-serving
> driver in Formula One history this weekend in Turkey, reveals that the
> final straw was a radio call during the infamous US Grand Prix at
> Indianapolis.
>
> Despite the fact that only six Bridgestone-shod cars were contesting the
> race, Barrichello recalled to the Brazilian television network TV Globo
> that he was asked to let his team-mate Michael Schumacher pass him -
> despite the German not being in the hunt for the title that year.
>
> "The team invited me to slow my pace so that Michael could get closer to
> me and to pass me," Barrichello said.
>
> "In this moment I knew that the time had come for me to go. That race in
> the United States was crucial," he added.
>
> Ferrari team members insisted throughout his tenure between 2000 and 2005
> that he was joint number one, but Barrichello now concedes that he was in
> fact Schumacher's subordinate.
>
> "When I signed the contract," he explained, "there was nothing to indicate
> that the drivers would be treated differently.
> "
>
> History however records several instances of team orders, most famously
> when the Ferrari drivers were booed at Austria in 2002 after Schumacher
> inherited Barrichello's lead at the chequered flag.
>
> Barrichello said: "Inside, I was often angry about it, because everyone
> claimed that there were no differences between us, but it was an unequal
> battle."
>
> Source: GMM
> © CAPSIS International
>
>
bullshit... his contract was pretty clear that he was going to be the a
"helper" and not a driver...
Piquet Sr. said "Barrichello chose the money instead the career, he will
never be a champion"...
"The team invited me to slow my pace so that Michael could get closer to me
and to pass me," Barrichello said.
so it was his decision to slow down... now he tries to blame the team...
FB
"Fritz" <soberfritz@yahoo . com REMOVE> wrote news:y95Uj.897$Yp.397@edtnps92...
> * en.f1-live . com /f1/en/headlines/news/detail/080506090442.shtml
>
>
> Rubens Barrichello said he made the decision to leave Ferrari halfway
> through a Grand Prix in 2005.
>
> The Brazilian veteran, who will set a new record as the longest-serving
> driver in Formula One history this weekend in Turkey, reveals that the
> final straw was a radio call during the infamous US Grand Prix at
> Indianapolis.
>
> Despite the fact that only six Bridgestone-shod cars were contesting the
> race, Barrichello recalled to the Brazilian television network TV Globo
> that he was asked to let his team-mate Michael Schumacher pass him -
> despite the German not being in the hunt for the title that year.
>
> "The team invited me to slow my pace so that Michael could get closer to
> me and to pass me," Barrichello said.
>
> "In this moment I knew that the time had come for me to go. That race in
> the United States was crucial," he added.
>
> Ferrari team members insisted throughout his tenure between 2000 and 2005
> that he was joint number one, but Barrichello now concedes that he was in
> fact Schumacher's subordinate.
>
> "When I signed the contract," he explained, "there was nothing to indicate
> that the drivers would be treated differently.
> "
>
> History however records several instances of team orders, most famously
> when the Ferrari drivers were booed at Austria in 2002 after Schumacher
> inherited Barrichello's lead at the chequered flag.
>
> Barrichello said: "Inside, I was often angry about it, because everyone
> claimed that there were no differences between us, but it was an unequal
> battle."
>
> Source: GMM
> © CAPSIS International
>
>
bullshit... his contract was pretty clear that he was going to be the a
"helper" and not a driver...
Piquet Sr. said "Barrichello chose the money instead the career, he will
never be a champion"...
"The team invited me to slow my pace so that Michael could get closer to me
and to pass me," Barrichello said.
so it was his decision to slow down... now he tries to blame the team...
FB
Re: Barrichello on being number two at Ferrari
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> "Fritz" <soberfritz@yahoo . com REMOVE> wrote
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>>
>>
>> Rubens Barrichello said he made the decision to leave Ferrari halfway
>> through a Grand Prix in 2005.
>>
>> The Brazilian veteran, who will set a new record as the longest-serving
>> driver in Formula One history this weekend in Turkey, reveals that the
>> final straw was a radio call during the infamous US Grand Prix at
>> Indianapolis.
>>
>> Despite the fact that only six Bridgestone-shod cars were contesting the
>> race, Barrichello recalled to the Brazilian television network TV Globo
>> that he was asked to let his team-mate Michael Schumacher pass him -
>> despite the German not being in the hunt for the title that year.
>>
>> "The team invited me to slow my pace so that Michael could get closer to
>> me and to pass me," Barrichello said.
>>
>> "In this moment I knew that the time had come for me to go. That race in
>> the United States was crucial," he added.
>>
>> Ferrari team members insisted throughout his tenure between 2000 and 2005
>> that he was joint number one, but Barrichello now concedes that he was in
>> fact Schumacher's subordinate.
>>
>> "When I signed the contract," he explained, "there was nothing to
>> indicate that the drivers would be treated differently.
>> "
>>
>> History however records several instances of team orders, most famously
>> when the Ferrari drivers were booed at Austria in 2002 after Schumacher
>> inherited Barrichello's lead at the chequered flag.
>>
>> Barrichello said: "Inside, I was often angry about it, because everyone
>> claimed that there were no differences between us, but it was an unequal
>> battle."
>>
>> Source: GMM
>> © CAPSIS International
>>
>>
>
> bullshit... his contract was pretty clear that he was going to be the a
> "helper" and not a driver...
>
> Piquet Sr. said "Barrichello chose the money instead the career, he will
> never be a champion"...
>
> "The team invited me to slow my pace so that Michael could get closer to
> me and to pass me," Barrichello said.
>
> so it was his decision to slow down... now he tries to blame the team...
>
If someone from Ferrari pulled a gun out and shot a driver so they crashed
out to allow MS a win (when he was still driving) you'd likely claim they
should not have been in the way of the bullet.
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> "Fritz" <soberfritz@yahoo . com REMOVE> wrote
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>>
>>
>> Rubens Barrichello said he made the decision to leave Ferrari halfway
>> through a Grand Prix in 2005.
>>
>> The Brazilian veteran, who will set a new record as the longest-serving
>> driver in Formula One history this weekend in Turkey, reveals that the
>> final straw was a radio call during the infamous US Grand Prix at
>> Indianapolis.
>>
>> Despite the fact that only six Bridgestone-shod cars were contesting the
>> race, Barrichello recalled to the Brazilian television network TV Globo
>> that he was asked to let his team-mate Michael Schumacher pass him -
>> despite the German not being in the hunt for the title that year.
>>
>> "The team invited me to slow my pace so that Michael could get closer to
>> me and to pass me," Barrichello said.
>>
>> "In this moment I knew that the time had come for me to go. That race in
>> the United States was crucial," he added.
>>
>> Ferrari team members insisted throughout his tenure between 2000 and 2005
>> that he was joint number one, but Barrichello now concedes that he was in
>> fact Schumacher's subordinate.
>>
>> "When I signed the contract," he explained, "there was nothing to
>> indicate that the drivers would be treated differently.
>> "
>>
>> History however records several instances of team orders, most famously
>> when the Ferrari drivers were booed at Austria in 2002 after Schumacher
>> inherited Barrichello's lead at the chequered flag.
>>
>> Barrichello said: "Inside, I was often angry about it, because everyone
>> claimed that there were no differences between us, but it was an unequal
>> battle."
>>
>> Source: GMM
>> © CAPSIS International
>>
>>
>
> bullshit... his contract was pretty clear that he was going to be the a
> "helper" and not a driver...
>
> Piquet Sr. said "Barrichello chose the money instead the career, he will
> never be a champion"...
>
> "The team invited me to slow my pace so that Michael could get closer to
> me and to pass me," Barrichello said.
>
> so it was his decision to slow down... now he tries to blame the team...
>
If someone from Ferrari pulled a gun out and shot a driver so they crashed
out to allow MS a win (when he was still driving) you'd likely claim they
should not have been in the way of the bullet.
Re: Barrichello on being number two at Ferrari
> * en.f1-live . com /f1/en/headlines/news/detail/080506090442.shtml
> The Brazilian veteran, who will set a new record as the longest-serving driver in
> Formula One history this weekend in Turkey,
Funny definition of 'longest serving'!
RB is in his 16th season.
Graham Hill tops that particular list with 18 seasons. Patrese and Hans
Herrmann both had careers that spanned 17 seasons.
Others whose careers spanned 16 seasons were:
Jo Bonnier, Nigel Mansell, Michael Schumacher and Jack Brabham - some of
them may well have put in more calendar time than Rubens.
> * en.f1-live . com /f1/en/headlines/news/detail/080506090442.shtml
> The Brazilian veteran, who will set a new record as the longest-serving driver in
> Formula One history this weekend in Turkey,
Funny definition of 'longest serving'!
RB is in his 16th season.
Graham Hill tops that particular list with 18 seasons. Patrese and Hans
Herrmann both had careers that spanned 17 seasons.
Others whose careers spanned 16 seasons were:
Jo Bonnier, Nigel Mansell, Michael Schumacher and Jack Brabham - some of
them may well have put in more calendar time than Rubens.
Re: Barrichello on being number two at Ferrari
Brian Lawrence wrote:
>> * en.f1-live . com /f1/en/headlines/news/detail/080506090442.shtml
>
>> The Brazilian veteran, who will set a new record as the
>> longest-serving driver in Formula One history this weekend in Turkey,
>
> Funny definition of 'longest serving'!
>
> RB is in his 16th season.
>
> Graham Hill tops that particular list with 18 seasons. Patrese and
> Hans Herrmann both had careers that spanned 17 seasons.
>
> Others whose careers spanned 16 seasons were:
>
> Jo Bonnier, Nigel Mansell, Michael Schumacher and Jack Brabham - some
> of them may well have put in more calendar time than Rubens.
Number of races?
--
John Briggs
Brian Lawrence wrote:
>> * en.f1-live . com /f1/en/headlines/news/detail/080506090442.shtml
>
>> The Brazilian veteran, who will set a new record as the
>> longest-serving driver in Formula One history this weekend in Turkey,
>
> Funny definition of 'longest serving'!
>
> RB is in his 16th season.
>
> Graham Hill tops that particular list with 18 seasons. Patrese and
> Hans Herrmann both had careers that spanned 17 seasons.
>
> Others whose careers spanned 16 seasons were:
>
> Jo Bonnier, Nigel Mansell, Michael Schumacher and Jack Brabham - some
> of them may well have put in more calendar time than Rubens.
Number of races?
--
John Briggs
Re: Barrichello on being number two at Ferrari
"John Briggs" <john.briggs4@ntlworld . com > wrote:
> Brian Lawrence wrote:
>>> * en.f1-live . com /f1/en/headlines/news/detail/080506090442.shtml
>>
>>> The Brazilian veteran, who will set a new record as the
>>> longest-serving driver in Formula One history this weekend in Turkey,
>>
>> Funny definition of 'longest serving'!
>>
>> RB is in his 16th season.
>>
>> Graham Hill tops that particular list with 18 seasons. Patrese and
>> Hans Herrmann both had careers that spanned 17 seasons.
>>
>> Others whose careers spanned 16 seasons were:
>>
>> Jo Bonnier, Nigel Mansell, Michael Schumacher and Jack Brabham - some
>> of them may well have put in more calendar time than Rubens.
>
> Number of races?
Well that's what they meant, but didn't write.
"John Briggs" <john.briggs4@ntlworld . com > wrote:
> Brian Lawrence wrote:
>>> * en.f1-live . com /f1/en/headlines/news/detail/080506090442.shtml
>>
>>> The Brazilian veteran, who will set a new record as the
>>> longest-serving driver in Formula One history this weekend in Turkey,
>>
>> Funny definition of 'longest serving'!
>>
>> RB is in his 16th season.
>>
>> Graham Hill tops that particular list with 18 seasons. Patrese and
>> Hans Herrmann both had careers that spanned 17 seasons.
>>
>> Others whose careers spanned 16 seasons were:
>>
>> Jo Bonnier, Nigel Mansell, Michael Schumacher and Jack Brabham - some
>> of them may well have put in more calendar time than Rubens.
>
> Number of races?
Well that's what they meant, but didn't write.
Re: Barrichello on being number two at Ferrari
"Brian Lawrence" <Brian_W_LawrenceREMTHIS@msn . com > wrote in
news:68drvgF2r0ef1U1@mid.individual . net :
>> * en.f1-live . com /f1/en/headlines/news/detail/080506090442.shtml
>
>> The Brazilian veteran, who will set a new record as the
>> longest-serving driver in Formula One history this weekend in Turkey,
>
> Funny definition of 'longest serving'!
>
> RB is in his 16th season.
>
> Graham Hill tops that particular list with 18 seasons. Patrese and
> Hans Herrmann both had careers that spanned 17 seasons.
>
> Others whose careers spanned 16 seasons were:
>
> Jo Bonnier, Nigel Mansell, Michael Schumacher and Jack Brabham - some
> of them may well have put in more calendar time than Rubens.
>
Yeah, a bit of bad writing there. The record will be for most GP's
entered into, not exactly the same thing and *hardly* close to a
"technical" matter which the press always claims immunity for.
"Brian Lawrence" <Brian_W_LawrenceREMTHIS@msn . com > wrote in
news:68drvgF2r0ef1U1@mid.individual . net :
>> * en.f1-live . com /f1/en/headlines/news/detail/080506090442.shtml
>
>> The Brazilian veteran, who will set a new record as the
>> longest-serving driver in Formula One history this weekend in Turkey,
>
> Funny definition of 'longest serving'!
>
> RB is in his 16th season.
>
> Graham Hill tops that particular list with 18 seasons. Patrese and
> Hans Herrmann both had careers that spanned 17 seasons.
>
> Others whose careers spanned 16 seasons were:
>
> Jo Bonnier, Nigel Mansell, Michael Schumacher and Jack Brabham - some
> of them may well have put in more calendar time than Rubens.
>
Yeah, a bit of bad writing there. The record will be for most GP's
entered into, not exactly the same thing and *hardly* close to a
"technical" matter which the press always claims immunity for.
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