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In article <873ap6uzhm.fsf@nonospaz.fatphil.org>,
thefatphil_demunged@yahoo.co.uk says...
> That's not how it works at all, alas. Standardised IQs are
> renormalised occasionally in order to return them to mu=100
> sigma=15, but only after drift has been quantified. Google
> "Flynn effect". And, as IQs are monotonically drifting in
> almost every demographic, have been for decades, and probably
> will for decades more, you can be pretty sure that the
> majority of the time, the mean IQ is not 100.
This the /measure/ of IQ, and not IQ itself. If the weather dude says
the temperature was 15dC, can you be sure the temperature was not
15.08dC?
There are many different ways of measuring IQ, and they provide many
different results, none of them 100pc accurate.
>
> You also seemed to have completely overlooked the fact that
> in his previous comment he was referring specifically to the
> IQ of a sample of the population, not the general populution.
I think the sample he used was a "world" sample.
As Frank says though, it was just a tongue-in-comment, it was the follow
up assertion (probably also just tongue-in-cheek) that pedants united[1]
felt compelled to refute. Especially as some people genuinely didn't
seem to understand what exactly the quotient was.
[1] Yes. Guilty.
--
Alan LeHun
thefatphil_demunged@yahoo.co.uk says...
> That's not how it works at all, alas. Standardised IQs are
> renormalised occasionally in order to return them to mu=100
> sigma=15, but only after drift has been quantified. Google
> "Flynn effect". And, as IQs are monotonically drifting in
> almost every demographic, have been for decades, and probably
> will for decades more, you can be pretty sure that the
> majority of the time, the mean IQ is not 100.
This the /measure/ of IQ, and not IQ itself. If the weather dude says
the temperature was 15dC, can you be sure the temperature was not
15.08dC?
There are many different ways of measuring IQ, and they provide many
different results, none of them 100pc accurate.
>
> You also seemed to have completely overlooked the fact that
> in his previous comment he was referring specifically to the
> IQ of a sample of the population, not the general populution.
I think the sample he used was a "world" sample.
As Frank says though, it was just a tongue-in-comment, it was the follow
up assertion (probably also just tongue-in-cheek) that pedants united[1]
felt compelled to refute. Especially as some people genuinely didn't
seem to understand what exactly the quotient was.
[1] Yes. Guilty.
--
Alan LeHun
Alan LeHun <try@reply.to> writes:
> I think the sample he used was a "world" sample.
You think that after you snipped his "not the world,
but just the members of the newsgroup that he still
reads" sample. Very well snipped; I'm sure no-one
noticed.
Phil
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> I think the sample he used was a "world" sample.
You think that after you snipped his "not the world,
but just the members of the newsgroup that he still
reads" sample. Very well snipped; I'm sure no-one
noticed.
Phil
--
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In article <87prsatb48.fsf@nonospaz.fatphil.org>,
thefatphil_demunged@yahoo.co.uk says...
> > I think the sample he used was a "world" sample.
>
> You think that after you snipped his "not the world,
> but just the members of the newsgroup that he still
> reads" sample. Very well snipped; I'm sure no-one
> noticed.
>
I certainly didn't notice. Where does he say /that/? Certainly not in
any post I replied to which really, is the only way I could have snipped
it, and I'm not seeing it in any post he made to this thread. A pointer
to a mid would help.
The quote to which I refer was in
TIGdnb6hBcxC44nVnZ2dnUVZ8uCdnZ2d@plusnet
Where he said "If the rest of the world were half as smart as my ass it
would bring up the average IQ substantially."
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Alan LeHun
thefatphil_demunged@yahoo.co.uk says...
> > I think the sample he used was a "world" sample.
>
> You think that after you snipped his "not the world,
> but just the members of the newsgroup that he still
> reads" sample. Very well snipped; I'm sure no-one
> noticed.
>
I certainly didn't notice. Where does he say /that/? Certainly not in
any post I replied to which really, is the only way I could have snipped
it, and I'm not seeing it in any post he made to this thread. A pointer
to a mid would help.
The quote to which I refer was in
TIGdnb6hBcxC44nVnZ2dnUVZ8uCdnZ2d@plusnet
Where he said "If the rest of the world were half as smart as my ass it
would bring up the average IQ substantially."
--
Alan LeHun
Alan LeHun <try@reply.to> writes:
> In article <87prsatb48.fsf@nonospaz.fatphil.org>,
> thefatphil_demunged@yahoo.co.uk says...
>> > I think the sample he used was a "world" sample.
>>
>> You think that after you snipped his "not the world,
>> but just the members of the newsgroup that he still
>> reads" sample. Very well snipped; I'm sure no-one
>> noticed.
>>
>
> I certainly didn't notice. Where does he say /that/? Certainly not in
> any post I replied to
Did you, or did you not, write this 'lol'?
"""
Alan LeHun <try@reply.to> writes:
> In article <ELednQ5sOc7MG4nVRVnyvQA@plusnet>, "Depresion" <127.0.0.1> says...
>> Yes it can. Watch as it goes up as you enter my killfile.
>
> lol.
"""
Look at the sentence from Depresion which immediately precedes that
'lol'. If you think that refers to the IQ of the whole world, then
you seriously need to work on your comprehension skills.
And who'd have thought - that section was indeed in the very bit
that you snipped. Now why didn't I previously mention that it was
the bit that you snipped? Oh, I did. Odd that.
Phil
--
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-- Microsoft voice recognition live demonstration
> In article <87prsatb48.fsf@nonospaz.fatphil.org>,
> thefatphil_demunged@yahoo.co.uk says...
>> > I think the sample he used was a "world" sample.
>>
>> You think that after you snipped his "not the world,
>> but just the members of the newsgroup that he still
>> reads" sample. Very well snipped; I'm sure no-one
>> noticed.
>>
>
> I certainly didn't notice. Where does he say /that/? Certainly not in
> any post I replied to
Did you, or did you not, write this 'lol'?
"""
Alan LeHun <try@reply.to> writes:
> In article <ELednQ5sOc7MG4nVRVnyvQA@plusnet>, "Depresion" <127.0.0.1> says...
>> Yes it can. Watch as it goes up as you enter my killfile.
>
> lol.
"""
Look at the sentence from Depresion which immediately precedes that
'lol'. If you think that refers to the IQ of the whole world, then
you seriously need to work on your comprehension skills.
And who'd have thought - that section was indeed in the very bit
that you snipped. Now why didn't I previously mention that it was
the bit that you snipped? Oh, I did. Odd that.
Phil
--
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-- Microsoft voice recognition live demonstration
In article <87abjdub0k.fsf@nonospaz.fatphil.org>,
thefatphil_demunged@yahoo.co.uk says...
> """
> Alan LeHun <try@reply.to> writes:
> > In article <ELednQ5sOc7MG4nVRVnyvQA@plusnet>, "Depresion" <127.0.0.1> says...
> >> Yes it can. Watch as it goes up as you enter my killfile.
> >
> > lol.
> """
>
> Look at the sentence from Depresion which immediately precedes that
> 'lol'. If you think that refers to the IQ of the whole world, then
> you seriously need to work on your comprehension skills.
Mmmm. Let me see.
<Depresion> If the rest of the world were half as smart as my ass it
would bring up the average IQ substantially.
<Max> the average IQ cannot be changed complete idiot !
<Depresion> Yes it can. Watch as it goes up as you enter my killfile.
There is nothing wrong with my comprehension skills, nor with my ability
to follow threads.
>
> And who'd have thought - that section was indeed in the very bit
> that you snipped. Now why didn't I previously mention that it was
> the bit that you snipped? Oh, I did. Odd that.
>
That looks nothing like "not the world, but just the members of the
newsgroup that he still reads". Indeed, without an explicit qualifier
one has no option but to assume that "everybody" is being referenced.
Further, it looks to me as though it is your comprehension skills that
need a bit of work, if you inferred from your reading of the thread that
Depresion was referencing a subgroup that wasn't even mentioned. Or
maybe you're just doing a spot of fishing.
Goodbye.
--
Alan LeHun
thefatphil_demunged@yahoo.co.uk says...
> """
> Alan LeHun <try@reply.to> writes:
> > In article <ELednQ5sOc7MG4nVRVnyvQA@plusnet>, "Depresion" <127.0.0.1> says...
> >> Yes it can. Watch as it goes up as you enter my killfile.
> >
> > lol.
> """
>
> Look at the sentence from Depresion which immediately precedes that
> 'lol'. If you think that refers to the IQ of the whole world, then
> you seriously need to work on your comprehension skills.
Mmmm. Let me see.
<Depresion> If the rest of the world were half as smart as my ass it
would bring up the average IQ substantially.
<Max> the average IQ cannot be changed complete idiot !
<Depresion> Yes it can. Watch as it goes up as you enter my killfile.
There is nothing wrong with my comprehension skills, nor with my ability
to follow threads.
>
> And who'd have thought - that section was indeed in the very bit
> that you snipped. Now why didn't I previously mention that it was
> the bit that you snipped? Oh, I did. Odd that.
>
That looks nothing like "not the world, but just the members of the
newsgroup that he still reads". Indeed, without an explicit qualifier
one has no option but to assume that "everybody" is being referenced.
Further, it looks to me as though it is your comprehension skills that
need a bit of work, if you inferred from your reading of the thread that
Depresion was referencing a subgroup that wasn't even mentioned. Or
maybe you're just doing a spot of fishing.
Goodbye.
--
Alan LeHun
Alan LeHun <try@reply.to> writes:
> In article <87abjdub0k.fsf@nonospaz.fatphil.org>,
> thefatphil_demunged@yahoo.co.uk says...
>> """
>> Alan LeHun <try@reply.to> writes:
>> > In article <ELednQ5sOc7MG4nVRVnyvQA@plusnet>, "Depresion" <127.0.0.1> says...
>> >> Yes it can. Watch as it goes up as you enter my killfile.
>> >
>> > lol.
>> """
>>
>> Look at the sentence from Depresion which immediately precedes that
>> 'lol'. If you think that refers to the IQ of the whole world, then
>> you seriously need to work on your comprehension skills.
>
> Mmmm. Let me see.
>
> <Depresion> If the rest of the world were half as smart as my ass it
> would bring up the average IQ substantially.
>
> <Max> the average IQ cannot be changed complete idiot !
>
> <Depresion> Yes it can. Watch as it goes up as you enter my killfile.
>
>
>
> There is nothing wrong with my comprehension skills, nor with my ability
> to follow threads.
Wow. 7 lines to answer a yes/no question. And with neither
a yes nor a no.
Care to brush up your reading skills a little, and answer
the simple yes/no question with a yes/no answer?
In case you've forgotten, as it appears you have great
difficulties remembering things which are 20 lines higher
up in a post, did you or did you not post that 'lol' in
response to Depresion's "Watch as it goes up as you enter
my killfile."?
>> And who'd have thought - that section was indeed in the very bit
>> that you snipped. Now why didn't I previously mention that it was
>> the bit that you snipped? Oh, I did. Odd that.
>
> That looks nothing like "not the world, but just the members of the
> newsgroup that he still reads". Indeed, without an explicit qualifier
> one has no option but to assume that "everybody" is being referenced.
Not if one has any competence at comprehending English. Why on
earth would he mention something changing upon addition of someone
to his killfile unless presense in, or absense from, his killfile
was relevant to the quantity being discussed?
Yes, the qualifier was implicit. That's where the "comprehension"
comes in.
> Further, it looks to me as though it is your comprehension skills that
> need a bit of work, if you inferred from your reading of the thread that
> Depresion was referencing a subgroup that wasn't even mentioned.
He himself mentioned it. Yes, previously he was talking about
a different group, but he has the right to introduce new things
into the discussion.
Apparently, however, he has no right to assume that everyone will
detect that he's changed what he's referring to, as it appears
that that's false.
> Or
> maybe you're just doing a spot of fishing.
It's closer to flaming. Don't be thick, and you won't get flamed; simple.
Phil
--
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-- Microsoft voice recognition live demonstration
> In article <87abjdub0k.fsf@nonospaz.fatphil.org>,
> thefatphil_demunged@yahoo.co.uk says...
>> """
>> Alan LeHun <try@reply.to> writes:
>> > In article <ELednQ5sOc7MG4nVRVnyvQA@plusnet>, "Depresion" <127.0.0.1> says...
>> >> Yes it can. Watch as it goes up as you enter my killfile.
>> >
>> > lol.
>> """
>>
>> Look at the sentence from Depresion which immediately precedes that
>> 'lol'. If you think that refers to the IQ of the whole world, then
>> you seriously need to work on your comprehension skills.
>
> Mmmm. Let me see.
>
> <Depresion> If the rest of the world were half as smart as my ass it
> would bring up the average IQ substantially.
>
> <Max> the average IQ cannot be changed complete idiot !
>
> <Depresion> Yes it can. Watch as it goes up as you enter my killfile.
>
>
>
> There is nothing wrong with my comprehension skills, nor with my ability
> to follow threads.
Wow. 7 lines to answer a yes/no question. And with neither
a yes nor a no.
Care to brush up your reading skills a little, and answer
the simple yes/no question with a yes/no answer?
In case you've forgotten, as it appears you have great
difficulties remembering things which are 20 lines higher
up in a post, did you or did you not post that 'lol' in
response to Depresion's "Watch as it goes up as you enter
my killfile."?
>> And who'd have thought - that section was indeed in the very bit
>> that you snipped. Now why didn't I previously mention that it was
>> the bit that you snipped? Oh, I did. Odd that.
>
> That looks nothing like "not the world, but just the members of the
> newsgroup that he still reads". Indeed, without an explicit qualifier
> one has no option but to assume that "everybody" is being referenced.
Not if one has any competence at comprehending English. Why on
earth would he mention something changing upon addition of someone
to his killfile unless presense in, or absense from, his killfile
was relevant to the quantity being discussed?
Yes, the qualifier was implicit. That's where the "comprehension"
comes in.
> Further, it looks to me as though it is your comprehension skills that
> need a bit of work, if you inferred from your reading of the thread that
> Depresion was referencing a subgroup that wasn't even mentioned.
He himself mentioned it. Yes, previously he was talking about
a different group, but he has the right to introduce new things
into the discussion.
Apparently, however, he has no right to assume that everyone will
detect that he's changed what he's referring to, as it appears
that that's false.
> Or
> maybe you're just doing a spot of fishing.
It's closer to flaming. Don't be thick, and you won't get flamed; simple.
Phil
--
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"Depresion" <127.0.0.1> wrote in message
news:ELednQ5sOc7MG4nVRVnyvQA@plusnet...
>
> "Max" <max@home . com > wrote in message
> news:sf0914d5l0702alisdevhuuakbt4p60mmk@4ax . com ...
>> On Sun, 27 Apr 2008 14:24:51 +0100, "Depresion" <127.0.0.1> wrote:
>>
>>>If the rest of the world were half as smart as my ass it would bring up
>>>the
>>>average IQ substantially.
>>>
>>
>> the average IQ cannot be changed
>
> Yes it can. Watch as it goes up as you enter my killfile.
>
LOL, what a fuck up.
How about, "sorry matey, I got it wrong, please, spank me like Max" . No?
AC
Depresion wrote:
> "Max" <max@home . com > wrote in message
> news:sf0914d5l0702alisdevhuuakbt4p60mmk@4ax . com ...
>
>>On Sun, 27 Apr 2008 14:24:51 +0100, "Depresion" <127.0.0.1> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>If the rest of the world were half as smart as my ass it would bring up the
>>>average IQ substantially.
>>>
>>
>>the average IQ cannot be changed
>
>
> Yes it can. Watch as it goes up as you enter my killfile.
>
Illustrating classical selection bias...
"Max" <max@home . com > wrote in message
news:sf0914d5l0702alisdevhuuakbt4p60mmk@4ax . com ...
> On Sun, 27 Apr 2008 14:24:51 +0100, "Depresion" <127.0.0.1> wrote:
>
>>If the rest of the world were half as smart as my ass it would bring up
>>the
>>average IQ substantially.
>>
>
> the average IQ cannot be changed complete idiot !
Why not?
news:sf0914d5l0702alisdevhuuakbt4p60mmk@4ax . com ...
> On Sun, 27 Apr 2008 14:24:51 +0100, "Depresion" <127.0.0.1> wrote:
>
>>If the rest of the world were half as smart as my ass it would bring up
>>the
>>average IQ substantially.
>>
>
> the average IQ cannot be changed complete idiot !
Why not?
On Sun, 27 Apr 2008 14:51:33 +0100, "Dom" <nobody@here.non> wrote:
>"Max" <max@home . com > wrote in message
>news:sf0914d5l0702alisdevhuuakbt4p60mmk@4ax . com ...
>> On Sun, 27 Apr 2008 14:24:51 +0100, "Depresion" <127.0.0.1> wrote:
>>
>>>If the rest of the world were half as smart as my ass it would bring up
>>>the
>>>average IQ substantially.
>>>
>>
>> the average IQ cannot be changed complete idiot !
>
>Why not?
>
check the definition of IQ
>"Max" <max@home . com > wrote in message
>news:sf0914d5l0702alisdevhuuakbt4p60mmk@4ax . com ...
>> On Sun, 27 Apr 2008 14:24:51 +0100, "Depresion" <127.0.0.1> wrote:
>>
>>>If the rest of the world were half as smart as my ass it would bring up
>>>the
>>>average IQ substantially.
>>>
>>
>> the average IQ cannot be changed complete idiot !
>
>Why not?
>
check the definition of IQ
"Dom" <nobody@here.non> wrote in message
news:67jenfF2pd5j5U1@mid.individual . net ...
> "Max" <max@home . com > wrote in message
> news:sf0914d5l0702alisdevhuuakbt4p60mmk@4ax . com ...
>> On Sun, 27 Apr 2008 14:24:51 +0100, "Depresion" <127.0.0.1> wrote:
>>
>>>If the rest of the world were half as smart as my ass it would bring up
>>>the
>>>average IQ substantially.
>>>
>>
>> the average IQ cannot be changed complete idiot !
>
> Why not?
I'm guessing he thinks IQ is standardised on a sliding scale to 100 as
average at any given time. He is wrong but probably not the type of person to
allow facts to change his opinion.
In article <mvOdnayNe-y7FYnVnZ2dnUVZ8smgnZ2d@plusnet>, "Depresion"
<127.0.0.1> says...
> I'm guessing he thinks IQ is standardised on a sliding scale to 100 as
> average at any given time. He is wrong but probably not the type of person to
> allow facts to change his opinion.
>
>
Erm. That /is/ the definition.
--
Alan LeHun
<127.0.0.1> says...
> I'm guessing he thinks IQ is standardised on a sliding scale to 100 as
> average at any given time. He is wrong but probably not the type of person to
> allow facts to change his opinion.
>
>
Erm. That /is/ the definition.
--
Alan LeHun
On 2008-04-27, Depresion <127.0.0.1> wrote:
> If the rest of the world were half as smart as my ass it would bring up the
> average IQ substantially.
Your arse smarts because of all the fruit you push up it.
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> If the rest of the world were half as smart as my ass it would bring up the
> average IQ substantially.
Your arse smarts because of all the fruit you push up it.
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* youtube . com /user/tarcus69
* w w w .flickr . com /photos/tarcus/sets/
John Smith wrote:
> "Depresion" <127.0.0.1> wrote in message
> news:JNGdnUoZDq3v5onVnZ2dnUVZ8tGqnZ2d@plusnet...
>
>>"John Smith" <someone@microsoft . com > wrote in message
>>news:481479c3$0$9513$4c368faf@roadrunner . com ...
>>
>>>"scaffers" <a@a . com > wrote in message
>>>news:AB_Qj.257242$833.39741@newsfe17.ams2...
>>>
>>>>on the replay it looked like the tyre de-laminated first
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>scaff
>>>>
>>>
>>>Rim failure, then tire..
>>
>>Ah so you work for them and have already managed a full failure analysis,
>>nice of you to come here first.
>>
>
>
> No, but HK's race engineer does, thats what he said smart ass!
>
>
Also stated "early days", hasn't seen the parts, etc. Educated guess.
In article <JNGdnUoZDq3v5onVnZ2dnUVZ8tGqnZ2d@plusnet>, "Depresion"
<127.0.0.1> says...
> > Rim failure, then tire..
>
> Ah so you work for them and have already managed a full failure analysis,
> nice of you to come here first.
>
Err.. I think the analysis came from RD. Rim failure, then tyre.
--
Alan LeHun
<127.0.0.1> says...
> > Rim failure, then tire..
>
> Ah so you work for them and have already managed a full failure analysis,
> nice of you to come here first.
>
Err.. I think the analysis came from RD. Rim failure, then tyre.
--
Alan LeHun
