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Qualy times adjusted for fuel load

Reply from: Brian Lawrence
Date: 28 Apr 2008, 13:46
Re: Qualy times adjusted for fuel load

"Kimi Fan" <kimisbest@gmail . com > wrote:

> On Apr 28, 11:06 pm, "Brian Lawrence"
> <Brian_W_LawrenceREMT...@msn . com > wrote:
>> "Kimi Fan" <kimisb...@gmail . com > wrote:
>> > 1 1'42.487
>> > 2 2'14.526
>> > 3 2'11.966
>> > 4 1'24.044
>> > Therefore using the lap times you provided, and since the circuit is
>> > 4.6km then the approximate average speeds are:
>>
>> > Lap 1: 157km/h
>> > Lap 2: 125km/h
>> > Lap 3: 125km/h
>> > Lap 4: 185km/h + each subseqent lap
>>
>> Those lap times give average speeds of:
>>
>> 1 103.134 km/hr
>> 2 86.148 km/hr
>> 3 87.297 km/hr
>> 4 116.339 km/hr
>>
>> Somewhat less than your figures.

> Are you in England? There's a government run program called Get On
> that they run where you can learn basic maths. You pickup from where
> you started to get confused in primary school.
>
> The website is * geton.direct.gov.uk/ you should take a look it
> could really help you.

Apologies, you are almost correct on those. I fed the numbers into something
which calculates speeds based on the seconds only - assuming that all lap
times are 1 minute plus the seconds. IOW it always adds 60s to the seconds
before doing the calculation. The lap length is 4.655 km, so the correct
average speeds are slightly higher than those you posted.

I'm signing off from this thread now, I have to take my wife to hospital
this afternoon (outpatients only).

--

Brian



Reply from: AC
Date: 28 Apr 2008, 16:21
Re: Qualy times adjusted for fuel load


"Brian Lawrence" <Brian_W_LawrenceREMTHIS@msn . com > wrote in message
news:67lrpgF2om4r7U1@mid.individual . net ...
> "Kimi Fan" <kimisbest@gmail . com > wrote:
>
>> On Apr 28, 11:06 pm, "Brian Lawrence"
>> <Brian_W_LawrenceREMT...@msn . com > wrote:
>>> "Kimi Fan" <kimisb...@gmail . com > wrote:
>>> > 1 1'42.487
>>> > 2 2'14.526
>>> > 3 2'11.966
>>> > 4 1'24.044
>>> > Therefore using the lap times you provided, and since the circuit is
>>> > 4.6km then the approximate average speeds are:
>>>
>>> > Lap 1: 157km/h
>>> > Lap 2: 125km/h
>>> > Lap 3: 125km/h
>>> > Lap 4: 185km/h + each subseqent lap
>>>
>>> Those lap times give average speeds of:
>>>
>>> 1 103.134 km/hr
>>> 2 86.148 km/hr
>>> 3 87.297 km/hr
>>> 4 116.339 km/hr
>>>
>>> Somewhat less than your figures.
>
>> Are you in England? There's a government run program called Get On
>> that they run where you can learn basic maths. You pickup from where
>> you started to get confused in primary school.
>>
>> The website is * geton.direct.gov.uk/ you should take a look it
>> could really help you.
>
> Apologies, you are almost correct on those. I fed the numbers into
> something
> which calculates speeds based on the seconds only - assuming that all lap
> times are 1 minute plus the seconds. IOW it always adds 60s to the seconds
> before doing the calculation. The lap length is 4.655 km, so the correct
> average speeds are slightly higher than those you posted.
>
> I'm signing off from this thread now, I have to take my wife to hospital
> this afternoon (outpatients only).
>
> --
>
> Brian
>
>

Best of luck to you both.

AC



Reply from: Brian Lawrence
Date: 29 Apr 2008, 12:28
Re: Qualy times adjusted for fuel load

"AC" <xxxx@xxxx.xxx> wrote:

> "Brian Lawrence" <Brian_W_LawrenceREMTHIS@msn . com > wrote in message

>> I'm signing off from this thread now, I have to take my wife to hospital
>> this afternoon (outpatients only).

> Best of luck to you both.

Thanks. It went quite well - for a change. After about 3 years they seem to
have decided the problem is something they originally dismissed as not
possible.

--

Brian



Reply from: AC
Date: 30 Apr 2008, 02:59
Re: Qualy times adjusted for fuel load


"Brian Lawrence" <Brian_W_LawrenceREMTHIS@msn . com > wrote in message
news:67obhoF2pfcvcU1@mid.individual . net ...
> "AC" <xxxx@xxxx.xxx> wrote:
>
>> "Brian Lawrence" <Brian_W_LawrenceREMTHIS@msn . com > wrote in message
>
>>> I'm signing off from this thread now, I have to take my wife to hospital
>>> this afternoon (outpatients only).
>
>> Best of luck to you both.
>
> Thanks. It went quite well - for a change. After about 3 years they seem
> to
> have decided the problem is something they originally dismissed as not
> possible.
>
> --
>
> Brian
>
>

Hmm, sounds like my experience. Still, finally getting a good diagnosis is a
good thing. It makes a great difference when you are able to actually get on
with some sort of treatment, therapy or what ever applies.

AC



Reply from: Dave Baker
Date: 28 Apr 2008, 13:31
Re: Qualy times adjusted for fuel load


"Kimi Fan" <kimisbest@gmail . com > wrote in message
news:76aeae69-d58c-4093-8ef3-679fe15a582e@f24g2000prh.googlegroups . com ...
On Apr 28, 9:34 pm, "Brian Lawrence" <Brian_W_LawrenceREMT...@msn . com >
wrote:
> 1 1'42.487
> 2 2'14.526
> 3 2'11.966
> 4 1'24.044

>Useful info, unfortunately it proves you wrong. It's so obvious just
by looking at these figures.


> So they probably saved about 2 to 2.5 laps worth.

>No.

>Without getting too heavily into Stoke's drag

Stokes drag applies to very small particles moving through viscous fluid at
low Reynold's numbers. It isn't even vaguely appropriate for cars. If you
want try and baffle people with terms you've heard once and misunderstood at
least try and use applicable ones for the argument in question.

>To shave 3 laps for being behind the safety car shows what a troll
>Dave really is.

I deducted 2 laps for fuel saved not 3 if you'd bother to actually read
posts properly.
--
Dave Baker
Puma Race Engines



Reply from: Kimi Fan
Date: 28 Apr 2008, 13:48
Re: Qualy times adjusted for fuel load

On Apr 28, 11:31 pm, "Dave Baker" <N...@null . com > wrote:
> "Kimi Fan" <kimisb...@gmail . com > wrote in message
>
> news:76aeae69-d58c-4093-8ef3-679fe15a582e@f24g2000prh.googlegroups . com ...
> On Apr 28, 9:34 pm, "Brian Lawrence" <Brian W LawrenceREMT...@msn . com >
> wrote:
>
> > 1 1'42.487
> > 2 2'14.526
> > 3 2'11.966
> > 4 1'24.044
> >Useful info, unfortunately it proves you wrong. It's so obvious just
>
> by looking at these figures.
>
> > So they probably saved about 2 to 2.5 laps worth.
> >No.
> >Without getting too heavily into Stoke's drag
>
> Stokes drag applies to very small particles moving through viscous fluid at
> low Reynold's numbers. It isn't even vaguely appropriate for cars. If you
> want try and baffle people with terms you've heard once and misunderstood at
> least try and use applicable ones for the argument in question.
>
> >To shave 3 laps for being behind the safety car shows what a troll
> >Dave really is.
>
> I deducted 2 laps for fuel saved not 3 if you'd bother to actually read
> posts properly.
> --
> Dave Baker
> Puma Race Engines

Stoke's drag is used in the derivation of the formula for drag at high
velocity, but it's rusty for me so I really don't want to try to get
into it.

> It isn't even vaguely appropriate for cars.

You're having a laugh. Actually no, I think I read another one of your
posts where you mentioned something equally dim-witted about drag or
speed ......

Reply from: Dave Baker
Date: 28 Apr 2008, 13:58
Re: Qualy times adjusted for fuel load


"Kimi Fan" <kimisbest@gmail . com > wrote in message
news:54e1699a-bcc2-4856-8622-62941373878d@y22g2000prd.googlegroups . com ...
>
> Stoke's drag is used in the derivation of the formula for drag at high
> velocity, but it's rusty for me so I really don't want to try to get
> into it.

Why doesn't that surprise me? One of my areas of expertise is fluid
mechanics and flow bench testing so by all means get into it if you want to
actually try and support any of the gobbledygook you post.

>> It isn't even vaguely appropriate for cars.
>
> You're having a laugh. Actually no, I think I read another one of your
> posts where you mentioned something equally dim-witted about drag or
> speed ......

You can learn something about how power, drag, rolling resistance and speed
are related from the technical articles on my website if you want.

* w w w .pumaracing.co.uk/TOPSPEED.htm

* w w w .pumaracing.co.uk/trans.htm

* w w w .pumaracing.co.uk/simulate.htm

Try not to get a headache. I'm sure it'll be a struggle understanding it
all.
--
Dave Baker
Puma Race Engines



Reply from: Kimi Fan
Date: 28 Apr 2008, 14:17
Re: Qualy times adjusted for fuel load

On Apr 28, 11:58 pm, "Dave Baker" <N...@null . com > wrote:
> "Kimi Fan" <kimisb...@gmail . com > wrote in message
>
> news:54e1699a-bcc2-4856-8622-62941373878d@y22g2000prd.googlegroups . com ...
>
>
>
> > Stoke's drag is used in the derivation of the formula for drag at high
> > velocity, but it's rusty for me so I really don't want to try to get
> > into it.
>
> Why doesn't that surprise me? One of my areas of expertise is fluid
> mechanics and flow bench testing so by all means get into it if you want to
> actually try and support any of the gobbledygook you post.


Is "fluid mechanics and flow bench testing" the fancy name for a three
day course on how to use a flow bench? I would accept fluid mechanics
as being an area in which someone could have expertise but the chances
that you've never studied that are almost nil.

>
> >> It isn't even vaguely appropriate for cars.
>
> > You're having a laugh. Actually no, I think I read another one of your
> > posts where you mentioned something equally dim-witted about drag or
> > speed ......
>
> You can learn something about how power, drag, rolling resistance and speed
> are related from the technical articles on my website if you want.
>
> * w w w .pumaracing.co.uk/TOPSPEED.htm
>
> * w w w .pumaracing.co.uk/trans.htm
>
> * w w w .pumaracing.co.uk/simulate.htm
>
> Try not to get a headache. I'm sure it'll be a struggle understanding it
> all.
> --
> Dave Baker
> Puma Race Engines

How's the view from up there? Up on your high horse looking down onll
a the little people. Look at me! I have a website!

You're pathetic.

Reply from: gs
Date: 28 Apr 2008, 22:07
Re: Qualy times adjusted for fuel load

> You're pathetic.

The last resort of someone who has lost an argument - abuse....



Reply from: Bigbird
Date: 28 Apr 2008, 22:45
Re: Qualy times adjusted for fuel load

gs wrote:

> > You're pathetic.
>
> The last resort of someone who has lost an argument - abuse....

Rubbish, it's barely even an argument until the abuse flies, fuckwit! ;)

--
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to develop the team to get on the top podium position! Pitwall is
entirely free! No sh*t!
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Reply from: AC
Date: 30 Apr 2008, 03:00
Re: Qualy times adjusted for fuel load


"Bigbird" <Bigbird.UsenetREMOVTHS@Gmail . com > wrote in message
news:xn0fphcc2rqy2v00g@news.individual . net ...
> gs wrote:
>
>> > You're pathetic.
>>
>> The last resort of someone who has lost an argument - abuse....
>
> Rubbish, it's barely even an argument until the abuse flies, fuckwit! ;)
>
> --

I thought you were meant to mention Hitler to finish an argument.

AC



Reply from: Ian Rawlings
Date: 30 Apr 2008, 08:15
Re: Qualy times adjusted for fuel load

On 2008-04-30, AC <xxxx@xxxx.xxx> wrote:

> I thought you were meant to mention Hitler to finish an argument.

That doesn't work any more since the Max saga, it just starts off a
round of double-entendre gags until one party submits.

--
Blast off and strike the evil Bydo empire!
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Reply from: gs
Date: 30 Apr 2008, 15:05
Re: Qualy times adjusted for fuel load


"Ian Rawlings" <news06@tarcus.org.uk> wrote in message
news:48180f3a$0$6431$834e42db@reader.greatnowhere . com ...
> On 2008-04-30, AC <xxxx@xxxx.xxx> wrote:
>
>> I thought you were meant to mention Hitler to finish an argument.
>
> That doesn't work any more since the Max saga, it just starts off a
> round of double-entendre gags until one party submits.

I thought Max was the one submitting for most of the video ;-)



Reply from: gs
Date: 30 Apr 2008, 15:06
Re: Qualy times adjusted for fuel load


"Bigbird" <Bigbird.UsenetREMOVTHS@Gmail . com > wrote in message
news:xn0fphcc2rqy2v00g@news.individual . net ...
> gs wrote:
>
>> > You're pathetic.
>>
>> The last resort of someone who has lost an argument - abuse....
>
> Rubbish, it's barely even an argument until the abuse flies, fuckwit! ;)
>

In that case...... you're so ugly that when you were born the doctor slapped
your mother ;-)



Reply from: Bigbird
Date: 30 Apr 2008, 16:09
Re: Qualy times adjusted for fuel load

gs wrote:

>
> "Bigbird" <Bigbird.UsenetREMOVTHS@Gmail . com > wrote in message
> news:xn0fphcc2rqy2v00g@news.individual . net ...
> > gs wrote:
> >
> >>> You're pathetic.
> > >
> > > The last resort of someone who has lost an argument - abuse....
> >
> > Rubbish, it's barely even an argument until the abuse flies,
> > fuckwit! ;)
> >
>
> In that case...... you're so ugly that when you were born the doctor
> slapped your mother ;-)

Been peeking on facebook? Most people think I'm cute.

They gave your mother a bone and a pat on the head ;)

--
Pitwall is an online F1 manager game where you receive a team and need
to develop the team to get on the top podium position! Pitwall is
entirely free! No sh*t!
* tinyurl . com /5y6ls3


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