Formula One seems troubled

Re: Formula One seems troubled


"APLer" <APLer@floor.tilde> wrote in message
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> Sir Tim <brooklands@ladyelg.co.uk> wrote in
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>> RickyBobby wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Not even having one race in USA makes F1 irrelevant to sport.
>>
>> Quite right old boy!
>> Baseball, American Football and NASCAR are the only sports that
>> attract the undivided attention of the international community.
>>
>> --
>
> footnote: in order are British, Canadian games and the last created by
> rum runners as a method of distracting the cops. So the question remains
> still - what exactly is the US adding to the world?
>
>

Movies, television programs, and popular music would be a start. You all
want our entertainment so you can learn to be more like us. In some more
advanced countries it is mandatory for school children to learn English. We
are flattered by that bit. We do not mind sharing. Pop on over and see
Disneyland or the Grand Canyon or Yellowstone National Park if you have
time. Some of us will go on over to your lands to see the old castles and
cathedrals and historic sites. It is all good.

Re: Formula One seems troubled


"RickyBobby" <nascar42@cox . net > wrote in message
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> "APLer" <APLer@floor.tilde> wrote in message
> news:Xns9A95B5693C5C1APLer@127.0.0.1...
>> Sir Tim <brooklands@ladyelg.co.uk> wrote in
>> news:rneu14lnb9m6rsrge9nf1sni393dvn117g@4ax . com :
>>
>>> RickyBobby wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Not even having one race in USA makes F1 irrelevant to sport.
>>>
>>> Quite right old boy!
>>> Baseball, American Football and NASCAR are the only sports that
>>> attract the undivided attention of the international community.
>>>
>>> --
>>
>> footnote: in order are British, Canadian games and the last created by
>> rum runners as a method of distracting the cops. So the question remains
>> still - what exactly is the US adding to the world?
>>
>>
>
> Movies, television programs, and popular music would be a start. You all
> want our entertainment so you can learn to be more like us. In some more
> advanced countries it is mandatory for school children to learn English.
> We are flattered by that bit. We do not mind sharing. Pop on over and see
> Disneyland or the Grand Canyon or Yellowstone National Park if you have
> time. Some of us will go on over to your lands to see the old castles and
> cathedrals and historic sites. It is all good.

Fuck me, you really are a piss poor advert for America. I have my issues
with the place, but I could have done so much better than that. For starters
the Internet has American slutty women to thank for its popularity.

AC

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"AC" <xxxx@xxxx.xxx> wrote in message
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> "RickyBobby" <nascar42@cox . net > wrote in message
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>>
>> "APLer" <APLer@floor.tilde> wrote in message
>> news:Xns9A95B5693C5C1APLer@127.0.0.1...
>>> Sir Tim <brooklands@ladyelg.co.uk> wrote in
>>> news:rneu14lnb9m6rsrge9nf1sni393dvn117g@4ax . com :
>>>
>>>> RickyBobby wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Not even having one race in USA makes F1 irrelevant to sport.
>>>>
>>>> Quite right old boy!
>>>> Baseball, American Football and NASCAR are the only sports that
>>>> attract the undivided attention of the international community.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>
>>> footnote: in order are British, Canadian games and the last created by
>>> rum runners as a method of distracting the cops. So the question remains
>>> still - what exactly is the US adding to the world?
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Movies, television programs, and popular music would be a start. You all
>> want our entertainment so you can learn to be more like us. In some more
>> advanced countries it is mandatory for school children to learn English.
>> We are flattered by that bit. We do not mind sharing. Pop on over and
>> see Disneyland or the Grand Canyon or Yellowstone National Park if you
>> have time. Some of us will go on over to your lands to see the old
>> castles and cathedrals and historic sites. It is all good.
>
> Fuck me, you really are a piss poor advert for America. I have my issues
> with the place, but I could have done so much better than that. For
> starters the Internet has American slutty women to thank for its
> popularity.
>
> AC
>

Do you know who invented the internet? Do you know who invented the
computer? Do you know who invented the airplane? Do you know who invented
electricity?

You lot would still be living in the Dark Ages if it were not for the
freedom of Americans to invent important things.

We give you your due and adore your castles and ruins and what not but we
demand some respect in return.

I am ashamed of our warmongering and our recent crusade against the Islams
but we will be having a new government shortly and hopefully that bit will
get sorted out.

Re: Formula One seems troubled

RickyBobby wrote:
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> "AC" <xxxx@xxxx.xxx> wrote in message
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>> "RickyBobby" <nascar42@cox . net > wrote in message
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>>>
>>> "APLer" <APLer@floor.tilde> wrote in message
>>> news:Xns9A95B5693C5C1APLer@127.0.0.1...
>>>> Sir Tim <brooklands@ladyelg.co.uk> wrote in
>>>> news:rneu14lnb9m6rsrge9nf1sni393dvn117g@4ax . com :
>>>>
>>>>> RickyBobby wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Not even having one race in USA makes F1 irrelevant to sport.
>>>>>
>>>>> Quite right old boy!
>>>>> Baseball, American Football and NASCAR are the only sports that
>>>>> attract the undivided attention of the international community.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> footnote: in order are British, Canadian games and the last created by
>>>> rum runners as a method of distracting the cops. So the question
>>>> remains
>>>> still - what exactly is the US adding to the world?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Movies, television programs, and popular music would be a start. You
>>> all want our entertainment so you can learn to be more like us. In
>>> some more advanced countries it is mandatory for school children to
>>> learn English. We are flattered by that bit. We do not mind sharing.
>>> Pop on over and see Disneyland or the Grand Canyon or Yellowstone
>>> National Park if you have time. Some of us will go on over to your
>>> lands to see the old castles and cathedrals and historic sites. It
>>> is all good.
>>
>> Fuck me, you really are a piss poor advert for America. I have my
>> issues with the place, but I could have done so much better than that.
>> For starters the Internet has American slutty women to thank for its
>> popularity.
>>
>> AC
>>
>
> Do you know who invented the internet? Do you know who invented the
> computer? Do you know who invented the airplane? Do you know who
> invented electricity?

The computer was invented by Babbage, and the electronic computer was
invented and developed by British scientists working independently of
the US. The airplane was not invented by the Wright brothers, they
simply hold the most verifiable claim to have got it vaguely right first
- several other inventors were doing the same thing at the same time,
for example Dumont in Brazil. Electricity wasn't invented, it was
discovered.

> You lot would still be living in the Dark Ages if it were not for the
> freedom of Americans to invent important things.

Rubbish. The rest of the world has been freely inventing things since
well before the US existed and continues to do so.

> We give you your due and adore your castles and ruins and what not but
> we demand some respect in return.

What? You've just posted, variously, that we'd be living in the dark
ages, and that F1 outside the US runs in front of barefoot peasants. A
wise man once told me that to get respect, you have to give respect -
you give none, you get none back. Even MJF gets more respect from me
than you do, and he's gone a bit bonkers in recent years.

--
Phil

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Re: Formula One seems troubled


"Phil Newnham" <pnewnham@yahoo . com > wrote in message
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> RickyBobby wrote:
>>
>> "AC" <xxxx@xxxx.xxx> wrote in message
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>>> "RickyBobby" <nascar42@cox . net > wrote in message
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>>>> "APLer" <APLer@floor.tilde> wrote in message
>>>> news:Xns9A95B5693C5C1APLer@127.0.0.1...
>>>>> Sir Tim <brooklands@ladyelg.co.uk> wrote in
>>>>> news:rneu14lnb9m6rsrge9nf1sni393dvn117g@4ax . com :
>>>>>
>>>>>> RickyBobby wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Not even having one race in USA makes F1 irrelevant to sport.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Quite right old boy!
>>>>>> Baseball, American Football and NASCAR are the only sports that
>>>>>> attract the undivided attention of the international community.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>
>>>>> footnote: in order are British, Canadian games and the last created by
>>>>> rum runners as a method of distracting the cops. So the question
>>>>> remains
>>>>> still - what exactly is the US adding to the world?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Movies, television programs, and popular music would be a start. You
>>>> all want our entertainment so you can learn to be more like us. In
>>>> some more advanced countries it is mandatory for school children to
>>>> learn English. We are flattered by that bit. We do not mind sharing.
>>>> Pop on over and see Disneyland or the Grand Canyon or Yellowstone
>>>> National Park if you have time. Some of us will go on over to your
>>>> lands to see the old castles and cathedrals and historic sites. It is
>>>> all good.
>>>
>>> Fuck me, you really are a piss poor advert for America. I have my issues
>>> with the place, but I could have done so much better than that. For
>>> starters the Internet has American slutty women to thank for its
>>> popularity.
>>>
>>> AC
>>>
>>
>> Do you know who invented the internet? Do you know who invented the
>> computer? Do you know who invented the airplane? Do you know who
>> invented electricity?
>
> The computer was invented by Babbage, and the electronic computer was
> invented and developed by British scientists working independently of the
> US. The airplane was not invented by the Wright brothers, they simply hold
> the most verifiable claim to have got it vaguely right first - several
> other inventors were doing the same thing at the same time, for example
> Dumont in Brazil. Electricity wasn't invented, it was discovered.
>
>> You lot would still be living in the Dark Ages if it were not for the
>> freedom of Americans to invent important things.
>
> Rubbish. The rest of the world has been freely inventing things since well
> before the US existed and continues to do so.
>
>> We give you your due and adore your castles and ruins and what not but we
>> demand some respect in return.
>
> What? You've just posted, variously, that we'd be living in the dark ages,
> and that F1 outside the US runs in front of barefoot peasants. A wise man
> once told me that to get respect, you have to give respect - you give
> none, you get none back. Even MJF gets more respect from me than you do,
> and he's gone a bit bonkers in recent years.
>
>
We respect England a lot. England is both our parents. There are plenty of
castle and ruins and historic sites in England. Small country but it packs
a wallop. They are not much good at cooking with all of their turnips and
such but we can depend on Italy and France for dinner. We also depend on
Germany for high quality machinery and Sweden for good furniture.

There are also nations such as Ireland and Scotland who make exemplary
distilled spirits. And more countries than I care to name make better beer
than the low cost swill we make over here.

In the old days a nation was rated on how well it made weapons and fought a
war. In these modern gentler time a nation is more likely to be rated on
how well they cook and distill and brew.

We are a giving sort and we gave you the motion picture and the telly and
the computer and the internet so we are doing our share.

You can keep your Linux all to yourselves. That stuff is pants.

And lastly, there is football. We are sort of lacking in that because most
of our sports minded children trend to baseball or basketball or American
football. But as we absorb more of the teeming refuse of lesser nations
that is changing. It may not be tomorrow but at some point in time we will
be able to compete in the world's game.

While we are waiting for that to happen we will continue to provide lots of
movies and telly and pop music for your entertainment. If you continue to
send us distilled spirits, beer, and furniture it will all be good.

Re: Formula One seems troubled


"RickyBobby" <nascar42@cox . net > wrote in message
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>
<snip>
> And lastly, there is football. We are sort of lacking in that because
> most of our sports minded children trend to baseball or basketball or
> American football. But as we absorb more of the teeming refuse of lesser
> nations that is changing. It may not be tomorrow but at some point in time
> we will be able to compete in the world's game.

Soccer is the most popular youth sport in the U.S., participation-wise. Has
been for years.

But in that aspect, it is like golf. Lots of participants, rather few
spectators.

Re: Formula One seems troubled

armpit wrote:
> "RickyBobby" <nascar42@cox . net > wrote in message
> news:1FWTj.112596$497.108953@newsfe14.phx...
> <snip>
>> And lastly, there is football. We are sort of lacking in that because
>> most of our sports minded children trend to baseball or basketball or
>> American football. But as we absorb more of the teeming refuse of lesser
>> nations that is changing. It may not be tomorrow but at some point in time
>> we will be able to compete in the world's game.
>
> Soccer is the most popular youth sport in the U.S., participation-wise. Has
> been for years.
>

...and has led to a wonderful demographic phenomenon: a proliferation of
Soccer Moms. God bless the sport.

--
"We always have hope of winning, because the others might lose..."

Monsieur Orgini - The Grand Prix of Gibraltar

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"forty" <cforteR3M0V3@THISgmail . com > wrote in message
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> armpit wrote:
>> "RickyBobby" <nascar42@cox . net > wrote in message
>> news:1FWTj.112596$497.108953@newsfe14.phx...
>> <snip>
>>> And lastly, there is football. We are sort of lacking in that because
>>> most of our sports minded children trend to baseball or basketball or
>>> American football. But as we absorb more of the teeming refuse of
>>> lesser nations that is changing. It may not be tomorrow but at some
>>> point in time we will be able to compete in the world's game.
>>
>> Soccer is the most popular youth sport in the U.S., participation-wise.
>> Has been for years.
>>
>
> ...and has led to a wonderful demographic phenomenon: a proliferation of
> Soccer Moms. God bless the sport.
>


You misplet "Soccer Milfs"

Re: Formula One seems troubled

"RickyBobby" <nascar42@cox . net > wrote in
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>
> "AC" <xxxx@xxxx.xxx> wrote in message
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>
> Do you know who invented the internet? Do you know who invented the
> computer? Do you know who invented the airplane? Do you know who
> invented electricity?
>

A scientist working at Bell Labs - which was founded by a Canadian. The
computer was invented in Germany - the Zeus Z3 (see reference). If you mean
with a *real* takeoff then it's Alexander Graham Bell in Cape Breton Along
with Curtis. Anyone can make a projectile - Which is all the Wright Bros
did their first flight. Electricity was invented by Nature and discovered
by Volta. Hence the unit of measure.

* en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer

Re: Formula One seems troubled

APLer wrote:
> "RickyBobby" <nascar42@cox . net > wrote in
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>> "AC" <xxxx@xxxx.xxx> wrote in message
>> news:5 NTj.297$JK1.135@newsfe3-gui.ntli . net ...
>>
>> Do you know who invented the internet? Do you know who invented the
>> computer? Do you know who invented the airplane? Do you know who
>> invented electricity?
>>
>
> A scientist working at Bell Labs - which was founded by a Canadian. The
> computer was invented in Germany - the Zeus Z3 (see reference). If you mean
> with a *real* takeoff then it's Alexander Graham Bell in Cape Breton Along
> with Curtis. Anyone can make a projectile - Which is all the Wright Bros
> did their first flight. Electricity was invented by Nature and discovered
> by Volta. Hence the unit of measure.
>
> * en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer
>

Easy, now - don't confuse him with facts

--
"We always have hope of winning, because the others might lose..."

Monsieur Orgini - The Grand Prix of Gibraltar

Re: Formula One seems troubled

On May 5, 10:17 am, Jimbo <jfro...@gmail . com > wrote:
> On May 4, 6:18 pm, "RickyBobby" <nasca...@cox . net > wrote:
>
> > Lots of different things going on this season and none of them are good.=

> > Half of the races are run on rubbish courses and half of the teams are i=
n
> > disarray.  These cannot be good developments.
>
> I agree.  F1 has lost it's way.  Bernie's pursuit of even greater
> riches has caused him to focus on new markets away from the
> traditional fan base.  However, my thought is that this is just a
> cyclical downturn and will pass.   The history and tradition of F1
> will sustain it - along with a little tweaking of the product to keep
> it attractive to newer fans.

The "new" Tilke tracks in developing nations are absolute crap. They
just pay mega upfront fees for hosting races. The next one will
probably be the GP of (Chinese occupied) Tibet followed by the GP of
(chi-com occupied) Dafur.

The tweaking needed will be the grim reaper paying a visit to Bernie's
mansion and Max getting sacked.

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"RickyBobby" <nascar42@cox . net > wrote in message
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> Lots of different things going on this season and none of them are good.
> Half of the races are run on rubbish courses and half of the teams are in
> disarray. These cannot be good developments.

The old guys think it's broken while plenty of new fans have come along and
find it fascinating.

I'm an old guy who is thinks its lost the plot and I should stop paying
attention but I keep watching Speed's abysmal coverage in 4:3 SD just
because I really like listening to old Hobbs and crew.

Re: Formula One seems troubled

"just bob" <kilbyfan@aol . com > wrote in
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>
> "RickyBobby" <nascar42@cox . net > wrote in message
> news:9DqTj.112070$497.62924@newsfe14.phx...
>> Lots of different things going on this season and none of them are
>> good. Half of the races are run on rubbish courses and half of the
>> teams are in disarray. These cannot be good developments.
>
> The old guys think it's broken while plenty of new fans have come
> along and find it fascinating.
>
> I'm an old guy who is thinks its lost the plot and I should stop
> paying attention but I keep watching Speed's abysmal coverage in 4:3
> SD just because I really like listening to old Hobbs and crew.
>
Yeah, it gets agravating doesn't it: I can watch either the (brainless
in comparison) ITV coverage on TSN or get to watch Hobbs and spend half
the time waiting through commercials.

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"APLer" <APLer@floor.tilde> wrote in message
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> "just bob" <kilbyfan@aol . com > wrote in
> news:481f4ba5$0$34526$742ec2ed@news.sonic . net :
>
>>
>> "RickyBobby" <nascar42@cox . net > wrote in message
>> news:9DqTj.112070$497.62924@newsfe14.phx...
>>> Lots of different things going on this season and none of them are
>>> good. Half of the races are run on rubbish courses and half of the
>>> teams are in disarray. These cannot be good developments.
>>
>> The old guys think it's broken while plenty of new fans have come
>> along and find it fascinating.
>>
>> I'm an old guy who is thinks its lost the plot and I should stop
>> paying attention but I keep watching Speed's abysmal coverage in 4:3
>> SD just because I really like listening to old Hobbs and crew.
>>
> Yeah, it gets agravating doesn't it: I can watch either the (brainless
> in comparison) ITV coverage on TSN or get to watch Hobbs and spend half
> the time waiting through commercials.

I used to download the torrents of ITV because I like the long pre-show and
the widescreen format but I can't stomach James Allen anymore during the
race.

Re: Formula One seems troubled

On Mon, 5 May 2008 11:02:03 -0700, "just bob" <kilbyfan@aol . com >
wrote:

>
>"RickyBobby" <nascar42@cox . net > wrote in message
>news:9DqTj.112070$497.62924@newsfe14.phx...
>> Lots of different things going on this season and none of them are good.
>> Half of the races are run on rubbish courses and half of the teams are in
>> disarray. These cannot be good developments.
>
>The old guys think it's broken while plenty of new fans have come along and
>find it fascinating.
>
>I'm an old guy who is thinks its lost the plot and I should stop paying
>attention but I keep watching Speed's abysmal coverage in 4:3 SD just
>because I really like listening to old Hobbs and crew.
>
Hey "old guy", you should be happy it's in colour. Depending on your
age, you should also be happy it has a picture tube and doesn't take
two laps to start up the green eye. ;-)

--

Regards, Frank