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Safety Car nonsense will continue
In article <2008050218133550073-president@whitehousegov>,
president@whitehouse.gov says...
> What is the 'mad dash' to the pits?
> so what? they all come in at the same time, has this caused a problem before?
> Why is this all of a sudden very dangerous?
>
One would assume the purpose of the safety car is to slow things down.
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Alan LeHun
president@whitehouse.gov says...
> What is the 'mad dash' to the pits?
> so what? they all come in at the same time, has this caused a problem before?
> Why is this all of a sudden very dangerous?
>
One would assume the purpose of the safety car is to slow things down.
--
Alan LeHun
Alan LeHun wrote:
> In article <2008050218133550073-president@whitehousegov>,
> president@whitehouse.gov says...
>
>>What is the 'mad dash' to the pits?
>>so what? they all come in at the same time, has this caused a problem before?
>>Why is this all of a sudden very dangerous?
>>
>
>
> One would assume the purpose of the safety car is to slow things down.
>
Good illustration of the Law of Unintended Consequences.
Jonathan Peirce wrote:
> On 2008-05-02 10:57:07 -0400, forty <cforteR3M0V3@THISgmail . com > said:
>
>> Who Needs Fenders? wrote:
>>> Jon wrote:
>>>> The driver would still have to pit twice. You're replacing the 10
>>>> second stop/start with a 7-8 second refueling stop/start. HTF is
>>>> that going to put someone back in his race position?
>>>
>>> Actually, this is better than a penalty. With a penalty, they must
>>> serve it once the track goes back to green, dropping them back
>>> considerably. Allowing them to pit with everyone else when the pits
>>> open (1) the driver will be with the pack at the restart and (2) has
>>> the chance to make up some positions in the pits.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Ah, I see that you do watch racing. Bravo.
>
> What is the 'mad dash' to the pits?
When the SC is deployed, the cars dash back to the pits to make their
stops, often blasting by incidents at full race speed.
> so what? they all come in at the same time, has this caused a problem
> before?
Cars failing to slow their pace around the scene of an incident is a
problem. I don't recall the last time it caused a problem in F1, but it
has resulted in dangerous incidents in other road racing series. We had
two cars hit an ambulance at Lime Rock a few years ago.
> Why is this all of a sudden very dangerous?
> JP
The rule was introduced a little while ago (last season?) but the danger
has always been there.
--
"We always have hope of winning, because the others might lose..."
Monsieur Orgini - The Grand Prix of Gibraltar
> On 2008-05-02 10:57:07 -0400, forty <cforteR3M0V3@THISgmail . com > said:
>
>> Who Needs Fenders? wrote:
>>> Jon wrote:
>>>> The driver would still have to pit twice. You're replacing the 10
>>>> second stop/start with a 7-8 second refueling stop/start. HTF is
>>>> that going to put someone back in his race position?
>>>
>>> Actually, this is better than a penalty. With a penalty, they must
>>> serve it once the track goes back to green, dropping them back
>>> considerably. Allowing them to pit with everyone else when the pits
>>> open (1) the driver will be with the pack at the restart and (2) has
>>> the chance to make up some positions in the pits.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Ah, I see that you do watch racing. Bravo.
>
> What is the 'mad dash' to the pits?
When the SC is deployed, the cars dash back to the pits to make their
stops, often blasting by incidents at full race speed.
> so what? they all come in at the same time, has this caused a problem
> before?
Cars failing to slow their pace around the scene of an incident is a
problem. I don't recall the last time it caused a problem in F1, but it
has resulted in dangerous incidents in other road racing series. We had
two cars hit an ambulance at Lime Rock a few years ago.
> Why is this all of a sudden very dangerous?
> JP
The rule was introduced a little while ago (last season?) but the danger
has always been there.
--
"We always have hope of winning, because the others might lose..."
Monsieur Orgini - The Grand Prix of Gibraltar
Who Needs Fenders? wrote...
> Jon wrote:
> > The driver would still have to pit twice. You're replacing the 10
> > second stop/start with a 7-8 second refueling stop/start. HTF is that
> > going to put someone back in his race position?
>
> Actually, this is better than a penalty. With a penalty, they must
> serve it once the track goes back to green, dropping them back
> considerably. Allowing them to pit with everyone else when the pits
> open (1) the driver will be with the pack at the restart and (2) has the
> chance to make up some positions in the pits.
>
>
>
Doh ....
If they are pitting with everyone else, they are out of fuel or they're
all out of fuel.
If they are amongst the last to need fuel, none of the other cars will
need to come in.
Things will change overnight when a Ferrari is nobbled by the current SC
rulz.
> Jon wrote:
> > The driver would still have to pit twice. You're replacing the 10
> > second stop/start with a 7-8 second refueling stop/start. HTF is that
> > going to put someone back in his race position?
>
> Actually, this is better than a penalty. With a penalty, they must
> serve it once the track goes back to green, dropping them back
> considerably. Allowing them to pit with everyone else when the pits
> open (1) the driver will be with the pack at the restart and (2) has the
> chance to make up some positions in the pits.
>
>
>
Doh ....
If they are pitting with everyone else, they are out of fuel or they're
all out of fuel.
If they are amongst the last to need fuel, none of the other cars will
need to come in.
Things will change overnight when a Ferrari is nobbled by the current SC
rulz.
On Wed, 30 Apr 2008 14:54:34 +0100, Jon <me@privvy . net > wrote:
> * w w w .autosport . com /news/report.php/id/67018
>
>"Ferrari's team principal Stefano Domenicali was less optimistic and
>said the change may not come until next season.
>"Well, I think that realistically speaking I don't know if this will be
>possible to be changed before the end of the season," Domenicali
>admitted."
>
>
>It's pointless asking why Ferrari are in a position to know/decide when
>the rulz are changing.
>
>
>WTF can't teams tell Charlie Whiting/FIA which lap they've fueled their
>cars to after the start(& during the race), so those which are genuinely
>going to run out of fuel can go to the pits?
>
>F1 being murdered by a thousand cuts.
Lap 1: "We now bring you this product placement from Mercedes:
Mercedes, when nothing but genocide will do!"
--
"Holy Jesus! What are these goddamn animals?"
> * w w w .autosport . com /news/report.php/id/67018
>
>"Ferrari's team principal Stefano Domenicali was less optimistic and
>said the change may not come until next season.
>"Well, I think that realistically speaking I don't know if this will be
>possible to be changed before the end of the season," Domenicali
>admitted."
>
>
>It's pointless asking why Ferrari are in a position to know/decide when
>the rulz are changing.
>
>
>WTF can't teams tell Charlie Whiting/FIA which lap they've fueled their
>cars to after the start(& during the race), so those which are genuinely
>going to run out of fuel can go to the pits?
>
>F1 being murdered by a thousand cuts.
Lap 1: "We now bring you this product placement from Mercedes:
Mercedes, when nothing but genocide will do!"
--
"Holy Jesus! What are these goddamn animals?"
