Delayed Monaco Stats

Delayed Monaco Stats

I was away on holiday for a couple of weeks, and although I was back in
time for Canada I've had little time to catch up with the statistics.

I'm also still struggling with Windows Live Mail (spit), and have reverted
to OE to post these.

I'll work through them in the usual order, posting them as replies to this
thread. When I finish Monaco I'll start a new thread for Canada.

I might not catch up before Magny-Cours :-)

--

Brian W Lawrence
Wantage,
Oxfordshire, UK
Brian_W_Lawrence@msn,com

Qualifying Statistics #6 - Monte Carlo

Average Starting Position 2008 - after Monte Carlo, Qualifying #6
=================================================================

2008 2008 2007 2006 2005 2004 2003
Pos. ASP Pos. ASP Pos. ASP Pos. ASP Pos. ASP Pos. ASP
==================================================================================
1. 2.00 (-0.20) F Massa 4 4.24 2 6.67 17 11.89 18 13.50 - -
2. 3.50 (+0.30) R Kubica 6 7.00 9 8.83 - - - - - -
3. 4.00 (-0.20) L Hamilton 1 2.59 - - - - - - - -
4. 4.67 (-0.13) H Kovalainen 10 10.71 - - - - - - - -
(5) 4.67 (-0.53) K Räikkönen 3 3.53 4 5.83 2 5.68 9 8.22 6 6.81
6. 6.67 (+0.27) J Trulli 8 9.24 14 10.28 5 6.11 6 6.71 7 7.31
7. (8) 7.33 (-0.07) F Alonso 2 3.18 1 4.28 1 3.95 7 7.56 8 7.88
8. (7) 7.67 (+0.87) N Heidfeld 5 5.41 10 10.17 12 9.57 21 16.00 15 12.31
9. 8.83 (+0.03) M Webber 7 9.06 7 11.06 8 8.00 13 9.72 11 9.88
10. 10.50 (-0.90) N Rosberg 9 9.88 12 13.33 - - - - - -
11. 11.50 (-0.10) J Button 14 13.94 3 7.78 4 5.94 3 5.50 13 11.33
12. 12.17 (+0.37) R Barrichello 16 15.00 6 7.61 13 10.53 2 4.56 1 3.63
13. 13.17 (+0.37) D Coulthard 13 13.35 13 14.17 16 11.00 10 9.39 9 8.50
14. 13.50 (-0.70) T Glock - - - - - - 22 16.50 - -
15(=15) 15.33 (+0.33) N Piquet - - - - - - - - - -
(17) 15.33 (-0.47) S Nakajima 22 19.00 - - - - - - - -
17(=15) 15.67 (+0.67) S Vettel 15 14.38 - - - - - - - -
18. 16.67 (-0.13) S Bourdais - - - - - - - - - -
19. 18.33 (+0.33) G Fisichella 11 10.82 3 5.61 3 5.74 17 12.33 19 13.88
20. 19.17 (-0.23) A Sutil 23 20.29 - - - - - - - -
21. 20.75 T Sato 20 17.29 20 19.67 14 10.88 8 8.06 16 13.00
22. 21.25 A Davidson 19 16.06 - - 22 15.00 - - - -

Averages include all demotions such as engine change penalties, but not last minute
changes.


Average Team Starting Position 2008 - after Monte Carlo, Qualifying #6
======================================================================

2008 2007 2006 2005 2004 2003 2002
Pos. ASP Pos. ASP Pos. ASP Pos. ASP Pos. ASP Pos. ASP Pos. ASP
=======================================================================================
1. 3.33 (-0.37) Ferrari 2. 3.88 2. 6.06 6. 9.37 1. 4.25 1. 3.94 1. 2.35
2. 4.33 (-0.17) McLaren 1. 2.88 3. 6.89 2. 6.61 5. 8.81 4. 7.66 3. 5.62
3. 5.58 (+0.58) BMW-Sauber 3. 6.18 6. 10.81 8. 11.95 8. 12.92 8. 12.81 5. 10.97*
4. 10.08 (-0.22) Toyota 4. 10.79 5. 10.11 3. 7.47 7. 11.81 5. 10.09 8. 14.59
5. 11.00 (+0.20) Red Bull 6. 11.21 8. 14.65 7. 11.24 6. 11.69 7. 11.84 9. 15.79*
6. 11.33 (+0.13) Renault 5. 10.82 1. 4.94 1. 4.84 4. 7.47 3. 7.59 4. 9.50
7. 11.83 (+0.13) Honda 8. 14.47 4. 7.75 4. 8.53 3. 6.78 6. 11.48 6. 12.71*
8. 12.92 (-0.68) Williams 7. 12.65 7. 12.19 5. 9.32 2. 6.39 2. 5.03 2. 3.21
9. 16.17 (+0.27) T Rosso 9. 16.21 9. 15.83 10. 17.50 10. 18.53 10. 18.66 11. 20.32*
10. 18.75 (+0.05) F India 11. 20.82 10. 18.06 9. 16.97 9. 16.36 9. 15.53 7. 13.33*
11. 21.00 S Aguri 10. 16.68 11. 20.14 - - - - - - - -

* Red Bull = Jaguar (2002-04), Honda = BAR (2002-05), BMW-Sauber = Sauber (2002-05),
Force India = Spyker (2007) = Midland (2006) = Jordan (2002-05), Toro Rosso = Minardi
(2002-05)

Note: Throughout the 2007 season the data in the 2006 columns was incorrect.


Team-mates Head-to-Head 2008 - after Monte Carlo, Qualifying #6
===============================================================

Team Driver-1 Driver-2 Posn.
================================================
Renault Alonso 6-0 Piquet +48
Toyota Trulli 6-0 Glock +41
BMW-Sauber Kubica 6-0 Heidfeld +25

Williams Rosberg 5-1 Nakajima +29
Red Bull Webber 5-1 Coulthard +26
Ferrari Massa 5-1 Räikkönen +16

Force India Fisichella 4-2 Sutil +5
McLaren Hamilton 4-2 Kovalainen +4

Toro Rosso Vettel 3-3 Bourdais +6
Honda Barrichello 3-3 Button -4

S Aguri Sato 2-2 Davidson +2

Notes: "Posn." shows the advantage in qualifying positions to date. A
positive number shows the driver on the left has the advantage and a
negative number the driver on the right.


Appearances in Each Qualifying Session
======================================

Q-1 Q-2 Q-3
=============================
L Hamilton 6 6 6
H Kovalainen 6 6 6
R Kubica 6 6 6
F Massa 6 6 6
J Trulli 6 6 6

F Alonso 6 6 5
N Heidfeld 6 6 5
K Räikkönen 6 6* 5 AUS (0 laps)

M Webber 6 6* 4 AUS (2 laps)

N Rosberg 6 6 3
D Coulthard 6 4 3* MON (0 laps)

T Glock 6 6 2

J Button 6 6 1
N Piquet 6 3 1
S Vettel 6 3 1* AUS (2 laps)

R Barrichello 6 6 0
K Nakajima 6 4 0
S Bourdais 6 2 0

G Fisichella 6 0 0
A Sutil 6 0 0
T Sato 4 0 0
A Davidson 4 0 0

* Set no time in one or more sessions.


Best Qualifying Performances (Current Drivers)
==============================================

Best in 2008 Best in Best in Best before 2006
Driver Posn.(#) GP(s) 2007 (#) 2006 (#) Posn. (#) First - Last
=============================================================================
F Massa Pole (3) . . . Pole (6) Pole (3) 4th (3) AUT 02 - BRA 04
L Hamilton Pole (1) AUS Pole (6) --- ---
R Kubica Pole (1) BRN 4th (1) 6th (1) ---
K Räikkönen Pole (1) ESP Pole (3) Pole (3) Pole (8) Eur 03 - TUR 05

F Alonso 2nd (1) ESP Pole (2) Pole (6) Pole (9) MAL 03 - CHN 05
H Kovalainen 2nd (1) TUR 6th (2) --- ---
J Trulli 3rd (1) MAL 6th (1) 3rd (1) Pole (3) MON 04 - USA 05
N Heidfeld 5th (2) AUS/MAL 2nd (1) 3rd (1) Pole (1) Eur 05
M Webber 6th (2) MAL/TUR 5th (1) 2nd (1) 2nd (2) MAL 04 - ESP 05
N Rosberg 6th (1) MON 4th (1) 3rd (1) ---
D Coulthard 8th (1) AUS 5th (1) 7th (1) Pole (12) ARG 95 - MON 01
S Vettel 9th (1) AUS 7th (1) --- ---
J Button 9th (1) BRN 6th (1) Pole (1) Pole (2) RSM 04 - CDN 05
T Glock 10th (2) MAL/MON --- --- 16th (2) CDN 04 - CHN 04
R Barrichello 10th (1) AUS 9th (1) 3rd (2) Pole (13) BEL 94 - BRA 04
N Piquet 10th (1) ESP --- --- ---

K Nakajima 12th (1) ESP 19th (1) --- ---
S Bourdais 15th (1) BRN --- --- ---
G Fisichella 16th (1) AUS 4th (1) Pole (1) Pole (2) AUT 98 - AUS 05
A Sutil 18th (2) AUS/MON 19th (3) --- ---
T Sato 19th (1) MAL 10th (1) 17th (2) 2nd (1) Eur 04
A Davidson 21st (3) . . . 11th (2) --- 15th (1) MAL 05


Personal Bests set at Monte Carlo
=================================

Career 2008 Season
======================================
Pole F Massa (12) F Massa (3)
6th N Rosberg
10th T Glock (2) T Glock (2)
18th A Sutil (2) A Sutil (2)


All-Time Top 20 Poles
=====================

1. A Senna 65
2. M Schumacher 50 + 14 in 2003-05 [1] + 4 in '06 [3]
3. A Prost 34
4. J Clark 33
5. N Mansell 32
6. JM Fangio 29
7. M Häkkinen 26
8. N Lauda 24
N Piquet 24
10. D Hill 20
11. M Andretti 18
12. J Stewart 17
R Arnoux 17
14. S Moss 16
15. F Alonso 0 + 7 in 2003-05 [1] + 2 in '05 [2] + 6 in '06 [3]
K Räikkönen 0 + 5 in 2003-05 [1] + 3 in '05 [2] + 7 in '06-08 [3]
17. A Ascari 14
R Peterson 14
J Hunt 14
20. J Brabham 13
G Hill 13
J Ickx 13
J Villeneuve 13 + 0 in 2003-04 [1] + 0 in '05 [2]
JP Montoya 10 + 3 in 2003-04 [1] + 0 in '05 [2]

1. Single lap qualifying (2003-05, except for AUS-MON '05)
2. Two single-lap sessions aggregated (AUS-MON '05 only)
3. Knockout, 3-period, race fuel


The Recent Record of Pole Position Holders at Monte Carlo
=========================================================

Year Time Driver Chassis Rslt Winner Grd
=======================================================================
1998 1'19.798 M Häkkinen McLaren MP4/13 1st
1999 1'20.547 M Häkkinen McLaren MP4/14 3rd M Schumacher 2nd
----
2000 1'19.475 M Schumacher Ferrari F1-2000 DNF Coulthard 3rd
2001 1'17.430 D Coulthard McLaren MP4/16 5th M Schumacher 2nd
2002 1'16.676 JP Montoya Williams FW24 DNF Coulthard 2nd
----
2003 1'15.529 R Schumacher Williams FW25 4th Montoya 3rd
2004 1'13.985 J Trulli Renault R24 1st
2005 [2'30.323] K Räikkönen McLaren MP4/20 1st
2006 1'13.962 F Alonso Renault R26 1st
2007 1'15.726 F Alonso McLaren MP4/22 1st
2008 1'15.787 F Massa Ferrari F2008 3rd Hamilton 3rd

---- Indicates changes in track length and/or layout.

Note: In 2005 the grid was decided using two-session aggregate qualifying.
Since 2006 it has been decided on a three-period knockout system.

There have been 54 Grands Prix at Monte Carlo,
21 have been won from pole position (last was Alonso in 2007),
13 from second position (Coulthard in 2002),
10 from third (Hamilton in 2008),
three from fourth (Beltoise in 1972),
four from fifth (Prost in 1985),
and three from lower positions (Rindt in 1970 [8th], Trintignant 1955 [9th],
and Panis in 1996 [14th]).

Average Starting Position of race winner = 2.592.

--

Brian W Lawrence
Wantage,
Oxfordshire, UK
Brian_W_Lawrence@msn,com

Top Speed Comparison - Monte Carlo

I posted these comparisons throughout the 2006 & 2007 seasons to illustrate
changes in top speeds as measured through the speed traps. In previous years
I restricted the comparison to speeds recorded during the three segments of
qualifying, since the best laps are usually recorded in those sessions. For
2008 I propose to consider the top speeds recorded in the other sessions
(free practice and the race).

The first table compares the 2007 team/driver combination with the equivalent
2008 team/driver - the same driver if possible, otherwise the 2007 driver is
compared to his 2008 replacement. This comparison is intended as a team
comparison, but the first (driver) table is also of some interest - but
should be read with care.

Notes

All teams have retained their names except for Spyker-Ferrari which has become
Force India-Ferrari.

'S#' Session in which the top speed was recorded (P1/P2/P3/Q/R)
'Diff' difference in top speed (km/hr)
'%Dif' difference in top speed (as percentage of 2007 speed)

Since the Turkish GP the FIA website has changed and I can no longer locate
speed trap data from the race - I didn't have the speed trap data for the
2007 race either, but until now the 2008 data was available.

Monaco GP 2007/08

2007 2008
Team-Engine Driver S# km/h Driver S# km/h Dif. %Dif.
========================================================================
Spyker-Ferrari Albers Q1 274.4 Fisichella Q1 283.5 +9.1 +3.32
Spyker-Ferrari Sutil Q1 278.5 Sutil Q1 283.7 +5.2 +1.87
T Rosso-Ferrari Speed Q1 283.3 Vettel Q1 288.4 +5.1 +1.80
Honda Button P2 279.7 Button Q1 284.5 +4.8 +1.72
Red Bull-Renault Webber P2 283.3 Webber Q1 287.8 +4.5 +1.59
Toyota Schumacher Q1 282.5 Glock Q1 286.9 +4.4 +1.56
Honda Barrichello Q1 280.7 Barrichello Q1 284.6 +3.9 +1.39
Red Bull-Renault Coulthard P2 283.3 Coulthard Q1 287.2 +3.9 +1.38
T Rosso-Ferrari Liuzzi Q1 285.1 Bourdais Q1 288.4 +3.3 +1.16
Renault Kovalainen Q1 286.7 Alonso Q2 289.6 +2.9 +1.01
McLaren-Mercedes Hamilton Q1 288.4 Hamilton P2 291.2 +2.8 +0.97
Ferrari Massa P2 285.6 Massa Q2 288.3 +2.7 +0.95
Ferrari Räikkönen Q1 285.6 Räikkönen Q2 288.3 +2.7 +0.95
BMW Sauber-BMW Heidfeld Q2 286.0 Heidfeld Q1 288.7 +2.7 +0.94
Renault Fisichella Q1 286.1 Piquet Q1 288.7 +2.6 +0.91
McLaren-Mercedes Alonso Q1 289.2 Kovalainen Q1 291.4 +2.2 +0.76
Williams-Toyota Wurz Q1 283.9 Nakajima Q2 286.0 +2.1 +0.74
Toyota Trulli Q1 283.4 Trulli Q2 285.4 +2.0 +0.71
BMW Sauber-BMW Kubica Q1 287.0 Kubica Q3 288.6 +1.6 +0.56
Williams-Toyota Rosberg Q1 285.4 Rosberg Q1 286.1 +0.7 +0.25

S Aguri-Honda Sato Q1 280.2
S Aguri-Honda Davidson Q1 279.8

All 20 driver combinations were faster than in 2007. Fisichella and Sutil
fill the top two places yet again.


The second table compares the best speed achieved by each team (IE the top
speed of both drivers), and as such is a better comparison.

2007 2008
Team-Engine Driver S# km/h Driver S# km/h Dif. %Dif.
========================================================================
Spyker-Ferrari Sutil Q1 278.5 Sutil Q1 283.7 +5.2 +1.87
Red Bull-Renault Webber P2 283.3 Webber Q1 287.8 +4.5 +1.59
Honda Barrichello Q1 280.7 Barrichello Q1 284.6 +3.9 +1.39
Toyota Trulli Q1 283.4 Glock Q1 286.9 +3.5 +1.24
T Rosso-Ferrari Liuzzi Q1 285.1 Bourdais Q1 288.4 +3.3 +1.16
Renault Kovalainen Q1 286.7 Alonso Q2 289.6 +2.9 +1.01
Ferrari [both] P2 285.6 [both] Q2 288.3 +2.7 +0.95
McLaren-Mercedes Alonso Q1 289.2 Kovalainen Q1 291.4 +2.2 +0.76
BMW Sauber-BMW Kubica Q1 287.0 Heidfeld Q1 288.7 +1.7 +0.59
Williams-Toyota Rosberg Q1 285.4 Rosberg Q1 286.1 +0.7 +0.25

S Aguri-Honda Sato Q1 280.2

All ten teams improved. Note that both Räikkönen and Massa set the same
top speeds in 2007 and 2008.

All data from www .formula1,com

--

Brian W Lawrence
Wantage,
Oxfordshire, UK
Brian_W_Lawrence@msn,com

Top Speed Comparison - Updated

"Brian Lawrence" <Brian_W_Lawrence@msn,com > wrote:

> Since the Turkish GP the FIA website has changed and I can no longer locate
> speed trap data from the race - I didn't have the speed trap data for the
> 2007 race either, but until now the 2008 data was available.

I have obtained the race speed trap data - it's still on the FIA website, but
it's hidden. Four drivers - Vettel, Glock, Räikkönen & Nakajima went faster
during the race. Their top speeds improved more than originally posted as
did those of their teams (Toro Rosso, Ferrari, Toyota & Williams). Here are
revised tables:


Monaco GP 2007/08

2007 2008
Team-Engine Driver S# km/h Driver S# km/h Dif. %Dif.
========================================================================
[Spyker-Ferrari] Albers Q1 274.4 Fisichella Q1 283.5 +9.1 +3.32
T Rosso-Ferrari Speed Q1 283.3 Vettel R 289.4 +6.1 +2.15
Toyota Schumacher Q1 282.5 Glock R 288.0 +5.5 +1.95
[Spyker-Ferrari] Sutil Q1 278.5 Sutil Q1 283.7 +5.2 +1.87
Honda Button P2 279.7 Button Q1 284.5 +4.8 +1.72
Red Bull-Renault Webber P2 283.3 Webber Q1 287.8 +4.5 +1.59
Honda Barrichello Q1 280.7 Barrichello Q1 284.6 +3.9 +1.39
Red Bull-Renault Coulthard P2 283.3 Coulthard Q1 287.2 +3.9 +1.38
T Rosso-Ferrari Liuzzi Q1 285.1 Bourdais Q1 288.4 +3.3 +1.16
Williams-Toyota Wurz Q1 283.9 Nakajima R 286.9 +3.0 +1.06
Ferrari Räikkönen Q1 285.6 Räikkönen R 288.6 +3.0 +1.05
Renault Kovalainen Q1 286.7 Alonso Q2 289.6 +2.9 +1.01
McLaren-Mercedes Hamilton Q1 288.4 Hamilton P2 291.2 +2.8 +0.97
Ferrari Massa P2 285.6 Massa Q2 288.3 +2.7 +0.95
BMW Sauber-BMW Heidfeld Q2 286.0 Heidfeld Q1 288.7 +2.7 +0.94
Renault Fisichella Q1 286.1 Piquet Q1 288.7 +2.6 +0.91
McLaren-Mercedes Alonso Q1 289.2 Kovalainen Q1 291.4 +2.2 +0.76
Toyota Trulli Q1 283.4 Trulli Q2 285.4 +2.0 +0.71
BMW Sauber-BMW Kubica Q1 287.0 Kubica Q3 288.6 +1.6 +0.56
Williams-Toyota Rosberg Q1 285.4 Rosberg Q1 286.1 +0.7 +0.25

S Aguri-Honda Sato Q1 280.2
S Aguri-Honda Davidson Q1 279.8

All 20 driver combinations were faster than in 2007.


The second table compares the best speed achieved by each team (IE the top
speed of both drivers), and as such is a better comparison.

2007 2008
Team-Engine Driver S# km/h Driver S# km/h Dif. %Dif.
========================================================================
Spyker-Ferrari Sutil Q1 278.5 Sutil Q1 283.7 +5.2 +1.87
Toyota Trulli Q1 283.4 Glock R 288.0 +4.6 +1.62
Red Bull-Renault Webber P2 283.3 Webber Q1 287.8 +4.5 +1.59
T Rosso-Ferrari Liuzzi Q1 285.1 Vettel R 289.4 +4.3 +1.51
Honda Barrichello Q1 280.7 Barrichello Q1 284.6 +3.9 +1.39
Ferrari [both] P2 285.6 Räikkönen R 288.6 +3.0 +1.05
Renault Kovalainen Q1 286.7 Alonso Q2 289.6 +2.9 +1.01
McLaren-Mercedes Alonso Q1 289.2 Kovalainen Q1 291.4 +2.2 +0.76
BMW Sauber-BMW Kubica Q1 287.0 Heidfeld Q1 288.7 +1.7 +0.59
Williams-Toyota Rosberg Q1 285.4 Nakajima R 286.9 +1.5 +0.52

S Aguri-Honda Sato Q1 280.2

All ten teams improved. Note that both Räikkönen and Massa set the same
top speeds in 2007.

All data from www .formula1,com

--

Brian W Lawrence
Wantage,
Oxfordshire, UK
Brian_W_Lawrence@msn,com

Engine Usage after 6 events - Monte Carlo

E# - Number of engines used by driver/team/engine supplier in 2008
Km. - Distance covered in practice/qualifying/race in 2008
Avg. - Average distance per engine in 2008
NENGP - New Engine at Next GP
FCNGP - "Free" engine Change at Next GP

Averages in [] indicate that the driver/team/engine supplier is halfway
through a two-race cycle.

All data from the FIA website and/or FORIX.

C# Driver(s) Engine E# Km. Avg. Next
==================================================================
18 Takuma Sato Honda RA808E 2 1,548 [774] -----
19 Anthony Davidson Honda RA808E 2 1,145 [573] -----
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
3 Nick Heidfeld BMW P86/8 3 2,804 935 NENGP
22 Lewis Hamilton Mercedes FO108V 3 2,685 895 NENGP
7 Nico Rosberg Toyota RVX-08 3 2,620 873 NENGP
5 Fernando Alonso Renault RS27 3 2,581 860 NENGP
17 Rubens Barrichello Honda RA808E 3 2,461 820 NENGP
23 Heikki Kovalainen Mercedes FO108V 3 2,449 816 NENGP
10 Mark Webber Renault RS27 3 2,371 790 NENGP
8 Kazuki Nakajima Toyota RVX-08 3 2,320 773 NENGP
16 Jenson Button Honda RA808E 3 2,239 746 NENGP
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
4 Robert Kubica BMW P86/8 4 2,729 [682]
11 Jarno Trulli Toyota RVX-08 4 2,671 [668]
1 Kimi Räikkönen Ferrari 056 4 2,622 [656]
12 Timo Glock Toyota RVX-08 4 2,502 [626]
2 Felipe Massa Ferrari 056 4 2,427 [607]
9 David Coulthard Renault RS27 4 2,208 [552] FCNGP
6 Nelsinho Piquet Renault RS27 4 1,981 [495] FCNGP
21 G Fisichella Ferrari 056 4 1,837 [459] FCNGP
20 Adrian Sutil Ferrari 056 4 1,740 435 NENGP
15 Sebastian Vettel Ferrari 056 4 1,708 [427]
14 Sebastien Bourdais Ferrari 056 4 1,595 [399] FCNGP
------------------------------------------------------------------
75 49,243 [657]


Team Engine E# Km. Avg.
==================================================
Super Aguri Honda RA808E 4 2,693 [673] -----
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
McLaren Mercedes FO108V 6 5,134 856
Williams Toyota RVX-08 6 4,940 823
Honda Honda RA808E 6 4,700 783
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
BMW Sauber BMW P86/8 7 5,533 [790]
Red Bull Renault RS27 7 4,579 [654]
Renault Renault RS27 7 4,562 [652]
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Toyota Toyota RVX-08 8 5,173 [647]
Ferrari Ferrari 056 8 5,049 [631]
Force India Ferrari 056 8 3,577 [447]
Toro Rosso Ferrari 056 8 3,303 [413]
--------------------------------------------------
75 49,243 [657]


Engine E# Km. Avg. Team(s)
============================================================
Mercedes FO108V 6 5,134 856 McLaren
BMW P86/8 7 5,533 [790] BMW Sauber
Honda RA808E 10 7,393 739 Honda, [Super Aguri]
Toyota RVX-08 14 10,113 [722] Toyota, Williams
Renault RS27 14 9,141 [653] Renault, Red Bull
Ferrari 056 24 11,929 [497] Ferrari, Toro Rosso, Force India
------------------------------------------------------------
75 49,243 [657]



Forced Engine Changes (Incurring 10-place penalty)
==================================================

Note: For 2008 the penalty is waived for the first such change of the season for
each driver. The waiver will not apply in the last event of the season. Waivers
are indicated below by a * before the car number.

GP Engine C# Team Driver When
====================================================================
01 AUS Ferrari 056 * 20 Force India A Sutil After Qual

02 MAL Ferrari 056 * 14 Toro Rosso S Bourdais After P3

Number of forced changes
========================
Ferrari 2 (both penalty free)
Honda 0
BMW 0
Mercedes 0
Renault 0
Toyota 0
--------------
2


'Free' Engine Changes (No penalty - driver failed to finish)
============================================================

GP Engine C# Team Driver
=======================================================
02 MAL Ferrari 056 1 Ferrari K Räikkönen
02 MAL Ferrari 056 2 Ferrari F Massa
02 MAL BMW P86/8 4 BMW Sauber R Kubica
02 MAL Renault RS27 6 Renault N Piquet
02 MAL Renault RS27 9 Red Bull D Coulthard
02 MAL Toyota RVX-08 11 Toyota J Trulli
02 MAL Toyota RVX-08 12 Toyota T Glock

04 ESP Ferrari 056 17 Toro Rosso S Vettel

06 MON Ferrari 056 21 Force India G Fisichella

Number of 'free' changes
========================
Ferrari 4
Renault 2
Toyota 2
BMW 1
Honda 0
Mercedes 0
--------------
9


Gearbox Usage
=============

Jo Bauer's Technical Report (click on 'Scrutineering Reports' on this page):

" http :// www .fia,com /en-GB/mediacentre/pressinformation/f1pressinfo/monaco/Pages/monaco.aspx"

says that Räikkönen, Massa, Coulthard, Bourdais and Fisichella started the
event with new gearboxes. All had completed four events with their previous
'boxes.

Sebastian Vettel had not completed four events with the same 'box, but was
forced to use a new one for Monaco because the new STR3 car does not accept
the previous gearbox. He was penalised by a 5-place grid demotion.

After Saturday practice it was necessary to change Giancarlo Fisichella's
gearbox resulting in another 5-place demotion.

After qualifying it was necessary to change David Coulthard's gearbox leading
to the third 5-place penalty. Suddenly after five races with only a single
gearbox change there were three in one event - presumably all Ferrari 'boxes?

Penalties
=========

AUS Timo Glock Toyota after P3

MON Sebastian Vettel Toro Rosso pre-event
MON G Fisichella Force India after P3
MON David Coulthard Red Bull after qual

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Brian W Lawrence
Wantage,
Oxfordshire, UK
Brian_W_Lawrence@msn,com

Re: Delayed Monaco Stats

[Default] Thus spake "Brian Lawrence" <Brian_W_Lawrence@msn,com >:

>I was away on holiday for a couple of weeks, and although I was back in
>time for Canada I've had little time to catch up with the statistics.
>
>I'm also still struggling with Windows Live Mail (spit), and have reverted
>to OE to post these.

Agent is your friend. Unfortunately, you can not longer get Eudora,
so I'd recommend TBird. I'd also recommend Linux, but I suspect that,
like me, you have some disgusting requirements for the Beast's
software.

>
>I'll work through them in the usual order, posting them as replies to this
>thread. When I finish Monaco I'll start a new thread for Canada.
>
>I might not catch up before Magny-Cours :-)

Bless you, my son, for your dedication to the one true religion.
Speed.

Re: Delayed Monaco Stats

On Sun, 15 Jun 2008 06:30:13 +0100,when reading
"rec.autos.sport.f1.moderated", I'm certain I caught a glimpse of
"Dillon Pyron <invaliddmpyron@austin.rr,com >" saying:

>[Default] Thus spake "Brian Lawrence" <Brian_W_Lawrence@msn,com >:
>
>>I was away on holiday for a couple of weeks, and although I was back in
>>time for Canada I've had little time to catch up with the statistics.
>>
>>I'm also still struggling with Windows Live Mail (spit), and have reverted
>>to OE to post these.
>
>Agent is your friend. Unfortunately, you can not longer get Eudora,

I run Agent and Eudora. The Final Eudora can still be downloaded.
--

Erik.

Re: Delayed Monaco Stats

[Default] Thus spake Erik Vastmasd <erik.vastm@sd.invalid>:

>On Sun, 15 Jun 2008 06:30:13 +0100,when reading
>"rec.autos.sport.f1.moderated", I'm certain I caught a glimpse of
>"Dillon Pyron <invaliddmpyron@austin.rr,com >" saying:
>
>>[Default] Thus spake "Brian Lawrence" <Brian_W_Lawrence@msn,com >:
>>
>>>I was away on holiday for a couple of weeks, and although I was back in
>>>time for Canada I've had little time to catch up with the statistics.
>>>
>>>I'm also still struggling with Windows Live Mail (spit), and have reverted
>>>to OE to post these.
>>
>>Agent is your friend. Unfortunately, you can not longer get Eudora,
>
>I run Agent and Eudora. The Final Eudora can still be downloaded.

I'm only licensed through 7.0.1.0. I think 7.1 would require that I
use it in "sponsored mode", which now means no ads, but some limits in
functionality.

But I don't care. I have what I want.

Re: Delayed Monaco Stats

Dillon Pyron wrote:
> [Default] Thus spake Erik Vastmasd <erik.vastm@sd.invalid>:
>
>> On Sun, 15 Jun 2008 06:30:13 +0100,when reading
>> "rec.autos.sport.f1.moderated", I'm certain I caught a glimpse of
>> "Dillon Pyron <invaliddmpyron@austin.rr,com >" saying:
>>
>>> [Default] Thus spake "Brian Lawrence" <Brian W Lawrence@msn,com >:
>>>
>>>> I was away on holiday for a couple of weeks, and although I was back in
>>>> time for Canada I've had little time to catch up with the statistics.
>>>>
>>>> I'm also still struggling with Windows Live Mail (spit), and have reverted
>>>> to OE to post these.
>>> Agent is your friend. Unfortunately, you can not longer get Eudora,
>> I run Agent and Eudora. The Final Eudora can still be downloaded.
>
> I'm only licensed through 7.0.1.0. I think 7.1 would require that I
> use it in "sponsored mode", which now means no ads, but some limits in
> functionality.
>
> But I don't care. I have what I want.

I use Thunderbird for both mail and news. Unfortunately, under the
guise of eliminating a small number of child porn groups many US ISPs
are cutting way back on newsgroup availability. My own provider, Time
Warner, is eliminating them entirely.

Fortunately I can still run an X server on my Windows laptop and tunnel
through SSH from the Caltech alumni server. Shortly I'll be using
xvnews to post from there (rather than just appearing to do so).

Oh, yeah, relevance: Either Bernie is clueless about how to handle
having mortally offended Max, or he's playing a game that's too subtle
for *me* to figure out.

--
Mark Jackson - http :// www .alumni.caltech.edu/~mjackson
Men become civilized, not in proportion to their
willingness to believe, but in proportion to their
readiness to doubt. - H. L. Mencken

Re: Delayed Monaco Stats

[Default] Thus spake Mark Jackson <mjackson@alumni.caltech.edu>:

>Dillon Pyron wrote:
>> [Default] Thus spake Erik Vastmasd <erik.vastm@sd.invalid>:
>>
>>> On Sun, 15 Jun 2008 06:30:13 +0100,when reading
>>> "rec.autos.sport.f1.moderated", I'm certain I caught a glimpse of
>>> "Dillon Pyron <invaliddmpyron@austin.rr,com >" saying:
>>>
>>>> [Default] Thus spake "Brian Lawrence" <Brian_W_Lawrence@msn,com >:
>>>>
>>>>> I was away on holiday for a couple of weeks, and although I was back in
>>>>> time for Canada I've had little time to catch up with the statistics.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm also still struggling with Windows Live Mail (spit), and have reverted
>>>>> to OE to post these.
>>>> Agent is your friend. Unfortunately, you can not longer get Eudora,
>>> I run Agent and Eudora. The Final Eudora can still be downloaded.
>>
>> I'm only licensed through 7.0.1.0. I think 7.1 would require that I
>> use it in "sponsored mode", which now means no ads, but some limits in
>> functionality.
>>
>> But I don't care. I have what I want.
>
>I use Thunderbird for both mail and news. Unfortunately, under the
>guise of eliminating a small number of child porn groups many US ISPs
>are cutting way back on newsgroup availability. My own provider, Time
>Warner, is eliminating them entirely.

Yeah, I'm a TW (RR). They haven't told me anything. But (if you look
at the headers) you'll notice that I'm using a 10 euro a year
provider. Although when I first signed up with them that was $9.82
and is now almost $20. But still worth it. And if I wanted binaries
(read: porn), I could get that.

>
>Fortunately I can still run an X server on my Windows laptop and tunnel
>through SSH from the Caltech alumni server. Shortly I'll be using
>xvnews to post from there (rather than just appearing to do so).
>
Used to use xrn, multiple eons ago. Talk about a resource hog!! But
I had a sierra hotel HP-UX box with 512 MB and a 10 GB SCSI disk. Two,
actually.

>Oh, yeah, relevance: Either Bernie is clueless about how to handle
>having mortally offended Max, or he's playing a game that's too subtle
>for *me* to figure out.

Ditto. Of course, I thought Max was mortally wounded three weeks ago,
so I have even less of an idea as to what's going on. Maybe they will
have simultaneous strokes and Tony George will step in to save open
wheel racing.

Okay, stop choking, get up off the floor, clean the puke off your
keyboards and monitors. That was supposed to be a joke.

Re: Delayed Monaco Stats

On Thu, 19 Jun 2008 23:25:04 +0100,when reading
"rec.autos.sport.f1.moderated", I'm certain I caught a glimpse of
"Dillon Pyron <invaliddmpyron@austin.rr,com >" saying:

>[Default] Thus spake Erik Vastmasd <erik.vastm@sd.invalid>:
>
>>I run Agent and Eudora. The Final Eudora can still be downloaded.
>
>I'm only licensed through 7.0.1.0. I think 7.1 would require that I
>use it in "sponsored mode", which now means no ads, but some limits in
>functionality.
>
>But I don't care. I have what I want.

Fair enough but I read the following in the newgroup:
<comp.mail.eudora.ms-windows>

On Sun, 15 Jun 2008 14:49:23 -0500, Pantyhoseman
<pantyhose@kneehighs.hosiery> wrote:

>Here is a code for Eudora 7
>First Name: notme
>Last Name: notme
>Code: 9496464745102270
--

Erik.

Best Lap Comparison - Monte Carlo

These are the fastest laps set by each driver over the whole event.

Monaco GP 25 June 2008

Team Driver Sess Time
============================================
Ferrari Massa Q2 1'15.110
McLaren-Mercedes Hamilton P2 1'15.140
Williams-Toyota Rosberg Q2 1'15.287
McLaren-Mercedes Kovalainen Q1 1'15.295
Ferrari Räikkönen Q2 1'15.404
BMW Sauber-BMW Kubica Q2 1'15.483
Toyota Trulli Q2 1'15.598
Red Bull-Renault Webber Q2 1'15.745
Renault Alonso Q2 1'15.827
Red Bull-Renault Coulthard Q2 1'15.839
Toyota Glock Q2 1'15.907
Honda Button Q2 1'16.101

Williams-Toyota Nakajima P2 1'16.372
Honda Barrichello Q1 1'16.208
Renault Piquet Q1 1'16.933
T Rosso-Ferrari Vettel Q1 1'16.955
T Rosso-Ferrari Bourdais Q1 1'16.806
BMW Sauber-BMW Heidfeld P2 1'16.426

F India-Ferrari Sutil Q1 1'17.225
F India-Ferrari Fisichella P2 1'17.251


How does the fastest lap of the whole weekend (3 practice sessions, 3 qualifying
segments and the race) compare to the fastest lap of the weekend in 2007?

Here are two tables - one compares driver with driver; easy enough if the same
driver remains in the same team. If not, compare the 2007 driver with the guy
who replaced him.

'S' is the session when the best lap was achieved (P1/P2/P3/Q1/Q2/Q3/R)
'Lps' are the total laps in all sessions (2007 excludes any third drivers)
'Diff' is the gain/loss in seconds
'%Diff' is the difference in time as a percentage of the 2007 time

A negative Diff/%Diff mean that the driver/team improved. Positive means they
got worse.

There can be several reasons for the variations seen.

Apologies if the tables wrap - save it and reformat if you are interested.

Note: Spyker-Ferrari was renamed to Force India-Ferrari, all other team names
remain the same.

2007 Team 2007 Driver S Lps Time 2008 Driver S Lps Time Diff. %Diff
=========================================================================================
Toyota Schumacher R 164 1'17.231 Glock Q2 189 1'15.907 -1.324 -1.71
Ferrari Massa Q3 183 1'15.967 Massa Q2 185 1'15.110 -0.857 -1.13
Williams-Toyota Rosberg Q2 177 1'16.100 Rosberg Q2 175 1'15.287 -0.813 -1.07
Ferrari Räikkönen P2 172 1'16.215 Räikkönen Q2 184 1'15.404 -0.811 -1.06
Toyota Trulli P2 173 1'16.354 Trulli Q2 165 1'15.598 -0.756 -0.99
Red Bull-Renault Webber Q2 90 1'16.420 Webber Q2 179 1'15.745 -0.675 -0.88
Red Bull-Renault Coulthard Q2 130 1'16.319 Coulthard Q2 84 1'15.839 -0.480 -0.63
Spyker-Ferrari Sutil R 121 1'17.678 Sutil Q1 158 1'17.225 -0.453 -0.58
Spyker-Ferrari Albers R 127 1'17.689 Fisichella P2 113 1'17.251 -0.438 -0.56
Honda Button Q2 189 1'16.457 Button Q2 186 1'16.101 -0.356 -0.47
Williams-Toyota Wurz R 170 1'16.658 Nakajima P2 186 1'16.372 -0.286 -0.37
McLaren-Mercedes Hamilton R 148 1'15.372 Hamilton P2 178 1'15.140 -0.232 -0.31
Honda Barrichello Q2 180 1'16.454 Barrichello Q1 165 1'16.208 -0.246 -0.32
Renault Fisichella Q2 185 1'16.054 Alonso Q2 171 1'15.827 -0.227 -0.30
Renault Kovalainen R 175 1'17.100 Piquet Q1 147 1'16.933 -0.167 -0.22
BMW Sauber-BMW Kubica Q2 190 1'15.576 Kubica Q2 173 1'15.483 -0.093 -0.12

McLaren-Mercedes Alonso R 189 1'15.284 Kovalainen Q1 179 1'15.295 +0.011 +0.01
T Rosso-Ferrari Speed R 166 1'16.867 Vettel Q1 189 1'16.955 +0.088 +0.11
T Rosso-Ferrari Liuzzi Q2 92 1'16.703 Bourdais Q1 100 1'16.806 +0.103 +0.13
BMW Sauber-BMW Heidfeld Q2 193 1'15.733 Heidfeld P2 166 1'16.426 +0.693 +0.92

S Aguri-Honda Sato R 174 1'17.183
S Aguri-Honda Davidson R 147 1'17.223

Notes
=====
Timo Glock heads the table this week, gaining 1.3s on Ralf Schumacher's best lap from
2007. Four drivers failed to improve on the equivalent 2007 best lap - Kovalainen,
Heidfeld, and the Toro Rosso duo. The latter pair may have 'suffered' because of the
introduction of the new car.


The second table takes the best lap time from both drivers in each team and compares
with the equivalent team last season. Probably a better comparison.


2007 Team 2007 Driver S Lps Time 2008 Driver S Lps Time Diff. %Diff
=========================================================================================
Ferrari Massa Q3 355 1'15.967 Massa Q2 369 1'15.110 -0.857 -1.13
Williams-Toyota Rosberg Q2 347 1'16.100 Rosberg Q2 361 1'15.287 -0.813 -1.07
Toyota Trulli P2 337 1'16.354 Trulli Q2 354 1'15.598 -0.756 -0.99
Red Bull-Renault Coulthard Q2 220 1'16.319 Webber Q2 263 1'15.745 -0.574 -0.75
Spyker-Ferrari Sutil R 248 1'17.678 Sutil Q1 271 1'17.225 -0.453 -0.58
Honda Barrichello Q2 369 1'16.454 Button Q2 351 1'16.101 -0.353 -0.46
Renault Fisichella Q2 360 1'16.054 Alonso Q2 318 1'15.827 -0.227 -0.30
McLaren-Mercedes Alonso R 337 1'15.284 Hamilton P2 357 1'15.140 -0.144 -0.19
BMW Sauber-BMW Kubica Q2 383 1'15.576 Kubica Q2 339 1'15.483 -0.093 -0.12

T Rosso-Ferrari Liuzzi Q2 258 1'16.703 Bourdais Q1 289 1'16.806 +0.103 +0.13

S Aguri-Honda Sato R 174 1'17.183

Ferrari made the biggest gain, helped, in part, by a poor performance in 2007. The other
teams all improved except for Toro Rosso (with a new car).

--

Brian W Lawrence
Wantage,
Oxfordshire, UK
Brian_W_Lawrence@msn,com

Overtaking Statistics #6 - Monte Carlo

Introduction for New Readers
============================

2008 is the 11th season that I have posted these amateur overtaking
analyses. My intention was to allow easier comparisons between Grands
Prix, seasons, circuits, drivers, etc.

In order to make any meaningful and/or useful observations it is essential
to produce the stats in as consistent a way as possible. To do this I have
devised several "rules" that I try to follow for each event. Please note
before posting to complain that I missed an obvious passing manoeuvre that
it has probably been excluded because of one of my "rules". The rules are
outlined in the "Disclaimer" below - please read it.


This analysis was mainly derived from the official FIA lap chart, which is
usually available from www .fia,com , http :// forix.autosport,com or
www .autosport,com /f1/ on race day or the following day. The original charts
remain copyright of the FIA.

Other excellent Formula One websites are available. This analysis is
completely and totally unofficial.


Disclaimer
==========

For the purposes of this analysis, I only count what I will term "genuine"
passing manoeuvres, which means that I always exclude:

a) any place changes made during pit stops
b) all lapping or unlapping manoeuvres
c) any place changes made during the first lap

Hopefully, a) & b) are obvious. c) is because although lap one is often the
best opportunity to make up places, it is also not typical of the rest of
the race, and so, for the purpose of comparing races with other races and
seasons with other seasons, it is simpler to exclude lap one completely. I
do summarise the changes on lap one later in the post.

For the purposes of this analysis a "pit stop" encompasses the slowing down
lap and the out lap, since any passes during those laps MIGHT be due to the
driver slowing down or speeding up.

Passes are not counted in these stats UNLESS the gained position is held
until the start/finish line is next crossed and so gets recorded onto the
lap chart. I try to ignore anything that isn't recorded in the lap chart,
even if it was seen on TV.

These are the passes I read for the 2008 Monaco Grand Prix:

Lap Place Passer (Passed)
==========================================
2 10 Webber (Nakjima)
2 15 Sutil (Piquet)
3 13 Sutil (Bourdais)
4 14 Vettel (Piquet)

First Safety Car period (laps 9-10)

11 10 Piquet (Sutil)
11 14 Kovalainen (Fisichella)
12 6 Alonso (Webber)
12 15 Rosberg (Fisichella)
12 16 Glock (Fisichella)
13 17 Vettel (Fisichella)
15 9 Trulli (Barrichello)
17 7 Trulli (Nakajima)
17 8 Barrichello (Nakajima)
21 10 Vettel (Piquet)
23 11 Kovalainen (Piquet)
23 10 Kovalainen (Vettel)
24 11 Piquet (Vettel)
36 10 Vettel (Piquet)
42 11 Rosberg (Button)
53 11 Kovalainen (Button)
54 14 Glock (Trulli) [team-mates]

That's 21 passes in total, compared to 2 last season.

Most: Kovalainen & Vettel 4


The Last 10 Seasons
===================

To save space I have removed the columns for 1997-98 from this table. I
have included the data from those seasons in the Total & Avg. columns.
The number of passes for each GP in 1997-98 is summarised below the table.

1997-2008
Grand Prix 2008 '07 '06 '05 '04 '03 '02 '01 '00 '99 Total Avg.
===================================================================
1. Australia 11 11 23 5 9 38 19 18 13 41 198 18.4
2. Malaysia 11 12 16 7 20 16 27 47 31 11 199 19.8
3. Bahrain 14 20 39 14 15 -- -- -- -- -- 102 20.4
4. Spain 3 5 7 3 7 19 10 10 4 4 120 10.0
5. Turkey 11 15 25 30 -- -- -- -- -- -- 81 20.2
6. Monaco 21 2 19 10 5 0 9 6 2 5 83 7.5
7. Canada .. 21 9 12 19 8 15 13 14 14 157 14.3
8. France .. 6 5 5 14 12 3 8 17 43 137 12.4
9. Britain .. 16 6 8 11 49 47 7 8 13 216 19.6
10. Germany .. -- 21 9 29 14 25 15 42 16 195 19.5
11. Hungary .. 5 32 12 6 25 1 5 10 7 142 12.9
12. Europe-3 .. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- - ---
13. Belgium .. 15 -- 28 22 -- 5 8 16 15 171 19.0
14. Italy .. 10 12 14 38 5 20 19 18 14 182 16.6
15. Singapore .. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- - ---
16. Japan-2 .. 46 -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- 46 46.0
17. China .. 40 51 20 17 -- -- -- -- -- 128 32.0
18. Brazil .. 20 18 6 41 48 30 26 22 27 274 24.9
-------------------------------------------------------------------
-- Austria -- -- -- -- -- 20 18 17 20 30 155 22.1
-- Europe-2 -- 18 13 24 11 8 27 7 28 33 186 16.9
-- Japan-1 -- -- 13 12 21 20 2 17 8 4 125 12.5
-- San Marino -- -- 4 7 6 4 6 13 7 11 71 7.1
-- USA -- 14 5 0 16 36 21 21 51 - 164 20.5
-------------------------------------------------------------------
Totals 71 276 318 226 307 322 285 257 311 288 3233 16.7
No. GP 6 17 18 19 18 16 17 17 17 16 194
Race Avg. 12 16 18 12 17 20 17 15 18 18 17

1997-98
=======

Year Tot AUS BRA ARG RSM MON ESP CDN FRA GBR GER HUN BEL ITA AUT LUX JPN Eur
============================================================================
1997 331 3 32 39 5 29 36 22 7 7 14 28 51 4 21 11 9 13
1998 240 7 13 11 8 4 12 10 17 44 10 11 11 28 29 6 19 --

Note: In 1997-98 the Luxembourg GP [LUX] was held at the Nürburgring, and is
considered as equivalent to the European GP (1999-2007) - Europe-2. Europe-3
is the new Valencia venue. The 1997 European GP took place at Jerez (Europe-1),
and is a one-off event in the era covered by this table.


Top 30 Races for Overtaking (1997-2008)
=======================================

# Year GP Wet SC
===========================================
1. 51 1997 - Belgium Wet SC (1)
51 2000 - USA Wet
51 2006 - China Wet
4. 49 2003 - Britain SC (2)
5. 48 2003 - Brazil Wet SC (4) Race stopped
6. 47 1999 - Australia SC (2)
47 2001 - Malaysia Wet SC (1)
47 2002 - Britain Showers
9. 46 2007 - Japan Wet SC (2)
10. 44 1998 - Britain Wet SC (1)

11. 43 1999 - France Wet SC (1)
12. 42 2000 - Germany Wet SC (2)
13. 41 2004 - Brazil Wet track
14. 40 2007 - China Wet
15. 39 1997 - Argentine SC (1)
39 2006 - Bahrain
17. 38 2003 - Australia SC (2)
38 2004 - Italy
19. 36 1997 - Spain
36 2003 - USA Wet
21. 33 1999 - Europe Wet

22. 32 1997 - Brazil
32 2006 - Hungary Wet SC (1)
24. 30 1999 - Austria
30 2002 - Brazil
30 2005 - Turkey
27. 29 1997 - Monaco Wet
29 1998 - Austria SC (1)
29 2004 - Germany
30. 28 1997 - Hungary
28 1998 - Italy
28 2000 - Europe Wet
28 2005 - Belgium


Top 20 'Dry' Races (Not wet & no Safety Car)
============================================

1. 39 2006 - Bahrain
2. 38 2004 - Italy
3. 36 1997 - Spain
4. 32 1997 - Brazil
5. 30 1999 - Austria
30 2002 - Brazil
30 2005 - Turkey
8. 29 2004 - Germany
9. 28 1997 - Hungary
28 1998 - Italy
28 2005 - Belgium

12. 27 1999 - Brazil
27 2002 - Malaysia
27 2002 - Europe
15. 25 2002 - Germany
25 2003 - Hungary
17. 24 2005 - Europe
18. 22 2000 - Brazil
19. 21 1997 - Austria
21 2001 - USA
21 2002 - USA
21 2004 - Japan
21 2006 - Germany


Drivers' Season Total
=====================

AUS MAL BRN ESP TUR MON
=========================================
13 Kovalainen 1 - - - 8 4
6 Piquet - - 3 - 1 2
5 Nakajima 1 2 2 - - -
5 Heidfeld - 2 2 1 - -
4 Hamilton - - 3 - 1 -
4 Alonso 2 1 - - - 1
4 Vettel - - - - - 4
4 Rosberg - 2 - - - 2
3 Massa 3 - - - - -
3 [Davidson] - 2 1 - - -
3 Räikkönen 1 - 1 - 1 -
3 Sutil 1 - - - - 2
3 Glock 1 - - - - 2
2 Fisichella - 1 1 - - -
2 Coulthard 1 - - 1 - -
2 [Sato] - 1 - 1 - -
2 Webber - - 1 - - 1
2 Trulli - - - - - 2
1 Barrichello - - - - - 1

0 Button - - - - - -
0 Kubica - - - - - -
0 Bourdais - - - - - -
----------------------------------------
71 11 11 14 3 11 21


No. of Times Overtaken
======================

AUS MAL BRN ESP TUR MON
=========================================
10 Nakajima 1 4 2 - - 3
8 [Sato] 2 2 3 1 - -
8 Piquet 2 - - - 1 5
5 Fisichella - - - 1 - 4
4 [Davidson] - - 3 1 - -
4 Alonso 1 1 1 - 1 -
4 Barrichello 1 1 1 - - 1
4 Vettel - 1 - - - 2
4 Button - - - - 2 2
3 Coulthard - 2 - - 1 -
3 Bourdais 1 - 1 - - 1
2 Räikkönen 2 - - - - -
2 Kovalainen 1 - 1 - - -
2 Glock - - - - 2 -
2 Sutil - - - - 1 1
2 Trulli - - 1 - - 1
1 Kubica - - 1 - - -
1 Massa - - - - 1 -
1 Rosberg - - - - 1 -
1 Webber - - - - - 1

0 Hamilton - - - - - -
0 Heidfeld - - - - - -
-----------------------------------------
71 11 11 14 3 11 21


Gains/Losses on Lap One
=======================

Plus 1: Hamilton, Alonso, Glock, Heidfeld, Nakajima, Coulthard

No change: Massa, Kubica, Trulli, Bourdais, Piquet, Sutil, Vettel, Fisichella

Minus 1: Räikkönen, Rosberg, Barrichello
Minus 3: Webber

Notes: Button pitted at the end of lap one. Kovalainen stalled on the grid
and started from the pit lane.


Gains/Losses on Lap One in 2008
===============================

Driver Total (ASP) AUS MAL BRN ESP TUR MON CDN FRA
=======================================================
Rosberg +9 (10.5) +2 +1 +1 +4 +2 -1
Piquet +4 (15.3) +3 0 +2 0 -1 0
[Sato] +4 (20.8) +3 -2 +3 0 - -
Fisichella +3 (18.3) - -2 +3 +2 - 0
Sutil +3 (19.2) - +3 - - - 0
Massa +2 (2.0) - 0 +1 +1 0 0
Kubica +1 (3.5) 0 +1 -1 -1 +2 0
Vettel +1 (15.7) - +1 - - - 0
Hamilton +1 (4.0) 0 +4 -6 +1 +1 +1
Alonso +1 (7.3) 0 -2 +1 -1 +2 +1
Coulthard +1 (13.2) -3 +3 -1 +1 0 +1

Räikkönen 0 (4.7) +2 0 +1 0 -2 -1
Kovalainen 0 (4.7) 0 +1 +1 0 -2 -
Button 0 (11.5) - -1 - 0 +1 -

Nakajima -1 (15.3) - +3 -3 -2 - +1
[Davidson] -2 (21.2) - -1 -1 0 - -
Heidfeld -2 (7.7) -1 -5 0 +2 +1 +1
Webber -3 (8.8) - +2 0 -1 -1 -3
Glock -3 (13.5) 0 - 0 -3 -1 +1
Bourdais -5 (16.7) -3 0 -1 -2 +1 0
Trulli -6 (6.7) -1 -3 +2 -1 -3 0
Barrichello -7 (12.2) +1 -3 -2 -1 -1 -1

Note: The number in brackets (ASP) is the average starting position in 2008
(grid position after any penalties have been applied).

Obviously, a driver who often starts from pole position has very little chance
to gain places while one who usually starts at the back of the grid has a good
chance of gaining places.


Most Passes 1998-2008
=====================

Using only the data from my statistics these are all drivers who have achieved
50 or more passes.

198 R Barrichello *
154 M Schumacher
154 R Schumacher

147 D Coulthard *
126 J Button *
124 G Fisichella *
108 J Villeneuve
103 O Panis
101 J Trulli *

98 F Massa *
95 JP Montoya
90 K Räikkönen *
89 J Alesi
78 F Alonso *
78 T Sato
76 N Heidfeld *
73 H-H Frentzen
72 M Webber *
67 E Irvine
54 J Verstappen
50 M Salo

* Current drivers

Two other drivers who just missed getting on the list - Mika Häkkinen & Pedro
de la Rosa (both 49).

The totals for the other current drivers are:

39 R Kubica
35 N Rosberg
23 H Kovalainen
20 L Hamilton
17 A Sutil
9 S Vettel
7 K Nakajima
6 N Piquet
3 T Glock
0 S Bourdais


It's not unusual for me to make an occasional mistake or to omit something in
the above. I do, of course, take full responsibility for any errors. I would
be grateful to anyone for pointing them out, and will incorporate any
corrections in later posts.

--

Brian Lawrence
Wantage, Oxfordshire, UK
Brian_W_Lawrence@msn,com

Driver Rankings after Monte Carlo

Numbers in brackets () in second column indicate table positions before
adding the most recent GP (IE the change in table position).

GPs - number of GPs counted for each driver (from the last 100)

[-1] [+1], etc. - number of GPs deleted/added to driver's record since
the last event
PP - number of Pole Positions (in the last 100)
W - number of Wins (in the last 100)
FL - number of Fastest Laps (in the last 100)
Points - these are 'my' points, allocated for many & various things, not
just wins, poles, f.laps, etc.
[Change] - the change in points after adding the most recent GP data
** - current drivers


The Last 100 GPs (~6 years)
===========================

First race (#1) - German GP, 28 July 2002 (GP #692)
Last race (#100) - Monaco GP, 25 May 2008 (GP #791)

Headlines
=========

The only change in the top half of the table is Kovalainen passing Rosberg
to take 17th place. Robert Kubica reaches 1000 points after just 27 races.
In the lower reaches the 'rookies' mostly move up a place or two.

Driver GPs [Ch] PP W FL Points [Change]
===================================================================
1 Fernando Alonso 93 [+1] 17 19 11 5330.57 [-69.69] **
2 Kimi Räikkönen 99 15 17 27 5142.42 [-14.40] **
3 Felipe Massa 81 12 7 8 4095.90 [+101.72] **
4 Michael Schumacher 77 [-1] 22 30 29 3774.68 [-111.32]
5 Lewis Hamilton 23 [+1] 7 6 2 2635.93 [+126.52] **
6 Rubens Barrichello 99 [+1] 8 7 9 1984.53 [-19.34] **
7 Giancarlo Fisichella 98 [+1] 2 3 1 1911.70 [-27.20] **
8 Jenson Button 95 3 1 - 1758.76 [-14.86] **
9 Nick Heidfeld 94 1 - 1 1695.67 [-8.45] **
10 Jarno Trulli 98 2 1 - 1487.04 [-11.08] **

11 Juan Pablo Montoya 63 [-1] 4 6 6 1397.89 [-43.53]
12 Ralf Schumacher 85 [-1] 4 2 2 1293.58 [-34.11]
13 David Coulthard 99 - 1 - 1223.36 [-25.01] **
14 Mark Webber 99 - - - 1182.07 [+25.77] **
15 Robert Kubica 27 [+1] 1 - - 1054.69 [+76.65] **
16 Takuma Sato 76 [-1] - - - 932.71 [-17.73]
17 (18) Heikki Kovalainen 23 [+1] - - 2 786.86 [+18.48] **
18 (17) Nico Rosberg 41 [+1] - - 1 778.46 [+3.85] **
19 Vitantonio Liuzzi 39 - - - 544.83 [-7.36]
20 Christijan Albers 45 - - - 514.23 [-8.19]

21 Jacques Villeneuve 53 [-1] - - - 463.70 [-11.55]
22 Christian Klien 46 - - - 453.31 [-9.39]
23 Tiago Monteiro 36 - - - 446.15 [-7.82]
24 Alexander Wurz 17 - - - 365.37 [-4.57]
25 Scott Speed 28 - - - 346.72 [-4.81]
26 Anthony Davidson 24 - - - 334.96 [-4.07]
27 Adrian Sutil 23 [+1] - - - 324.17 [+11.14] **
28 (29) Sebastian Vettel 14 [+1] - - - 254.63 [+40.70] **
29 (28) Pedro de la Rosa 15 [-1] - - 1 231.68 [-4.34]
30 Narain Karthikeyan 19 - - - 192.24 [-3.83]

31 Sakon Yamamoto 14 - - - 183.42 [-2.18]
32 (33) Kazuki Nakajima 7 [+1] - - - 177.02 [+30.80] **
33 (32) Olivier Panis 38 [-1] - - - 153.88 [-7.49]
34 (35) Timo Glock 10 [+1] - - - 146.96 [+19.49] **
35 (34) Robert Doornbos 11 - - - 141.34 [-2.28]
36 Cristiano da Matta 27 - - - 115.68 [-5.92]
37 Antonio Pizzonia 20 - - - 111.96 [-3.80]
38 Zsolt Baumgartner 20 - - - 110.51 [-3.59]
39 Gianmaria Bruni 18 - - - 88.95 [-2.80]
40 (41) Nelson Piquet 6 [+1] - - - 87.32 [+10.29] **

41 (40) Patrick Friesacher 11 - - - 80.29 [-1.72]
42 Sébastien Bourdais 6 [+1] - - - 76.38 [+3.17] **
43 Giorgio Pantano 14 - - - 60.58 [-2.07]
44 Franck Montagny 7 - - - 59.72 [-0.89]
45 Heinz-Harald Frentzen 17 - - - 45.89 [-3.41]
46 Jos Verstappen 16 - - - 40.78 [-2.77]
47 Justin Wilson 16 - - - 36.87 [-2.43]
48 (49) Yuji Ide 4 - - - 34.63 [-0.56]
49 (50) Ricardo Zonta 5 - - - 34.16 [-0.91]
50 (48) Ralph Firman 14 - - - 32.85 [-2.35]

51 Marc Gené 3 - - - 24.09 [-0.91]
52 Nicholas Kiesa 5 - - - 22.42 [-1.13]
53 Markus Winkelhock 1 - - - 11.09 [-0.13]
54 Eddie Irvine 6 [-1] - - - 6.08 [-1.75]
55 Mika Salo 6 [-1] - - - 5.18 [-1.60]
56 Alan McNish 5 [-1] - - - 2.38 [-1.00]
57 Alex Yoong 3 [-1] - - - 1.86 [-0.63]
58 Enrique Bernoldi 1 - - - 0.14 [-0.13]

Fifty eight drivers have driven in the last 100 GPs.


The last 156 weeks (3 years)
============================

First race (#1) - European GP, 29 May 2005 (GP #738)
Last race (#54) - Monaco GP, 25 May 2008 (GP #791)

Headlines
=========

Robert Kubica reaches 1000 points and moves into the top 10.

Driver GPs PP W FL Points [Change]
==================================================================
1 Fernando Alonso 53 12 15 9 4525.26 [-77.03] **
2 Kimi Räikkönen 53 9 13 21 4305.24 [-112.61] **
3 Felipe Massa 52 12 7 8 3892.68 [+98.60] **
4 Lewis Hamilton 23 [+1] 7 6 2 2635.93 [+126.52] **
5 Michael Schumacher 31 [-1] 5 8 8 2167.58 [-60.80]
6 Giancarlo Fisichella 52 1 1 - 1536.88 [-23.20] **
7 Nick Heidfeld 48 1 - 1 1427.45 [-34.33] **
8 Jenson Button 53 [+1] 2 1 - 1342.50 [+1.99] **
9 Rubens Barrichello 53 - - - 1060.85 [+10.32] **
10 (11) Robert Kubica 27 [+1] 1 - - 1054.69 [+76.65] **

11 (10) Jarno Trulli 53 - - - 986.46 [-1.78] **
12 Ralf Schumacher 47 [-1] 1 - 1 901.94 [-30.80]
13 (14) Mark Webber 53 - - - 898.52 [+9.65] **
14 (13) David Coulthard 53 - - - 890.55 [-11.35] **
15 Juan Pablo Montoya 21 [-1] 2 3 1 800.54 [-34.01]
16 (17) Heikki Kovalainen 23 [+1] - - 2 786.86 [+18.48] **
17 (16) Nico Rosberg 41 [+1] - - 1 778.46 [+3.85] **
18 Takuma Sato 49 - - - 727.71 [-9.85]
19 Vitantonio Liuzzi 36 [-1] - - - 524.06 [-12.93]
20 Christijan Albers 39 [-1] - - - 475.97 [-16.93]

26 (27) Adrian Sutil 23 [+1] - - - 324.17 [+11.14] **

28 Sebastian Vettel 14 [+1] - - - 254.63 [+40.70] **

31 (32) Kazuki Nakajima 7 [+1] - - - 177.02 [+30.80] **

34 Timo Glock 6 [+1] - - - 109.99 [+20.52] **
35 Nelson Piquet 6 [+1] - - - 87.32 [+10.29] **
36 Sébastien Bourdais 6 [+1] - - - 76.38 [+3.17] **

Forty one drivers have driven in the last three years (156 weeks).


The last 104 weeks (2 years)
============================

First race (#1) - Monaco GP, 28 May 2006 (GP #757)
Last race (#35) - Monaco GP, 25 May 2008 (GP #791)

Headlines
=========

Kimi Räikkönen moves ahead of Fernando Alonso into second place. Lower
down Kovalainen passes Button.

Driver GPs PP W FL Points [Change]
==================================================================
1 Felipe Massa 34 12 7 7 3552.54 [63.99] **
2 (3) Kimi Räikkönen 35 7 8 11 3197.11 [8.76] **
3 (2) Fernando Alonso 35 6 8 6 3048.74 [-184.94] **
4 Lewis Hamilton 23 [+1] 7 6 2 2635.93 [+126.52] **
5 Michael Schumacher 12 [-1] 2 5 6 1252.80 [-78.54]
6 Nick Heidfeld 35 - - 1 1179.68 [-11.90] **
7 Robert Kubica 27 [+1] 1 - - 1054.69 [+76.65] **
8 Giancarlo Fisichella 34 - - - 898.18 [-60.19] **
9 (10) Heikki Kovalainen 23 [+1] - - 2 786.86 [+18.48] **
10 (9) Jenson Button 35 - 1 - 782.42 [-14.23] **

11 Jarno Trulli 35 - - - 731.30 [-2.80] **
12 Nico Rosberg 35 - - - 685.03 [-10.26] **
13 (14) Rubens Barrichello 34 - - - 683.75 [+7.13] **
14 (13) David Coulthard 35 - - - 669.42 [-19.85] **
15 Mark Webber 35 - - - 642.84 [+25.70] **
16 Takuma Sato 32 [-1] - - - 533.90 [-21.53]
17 Ralf Schumacher 29 [-1] - - - 501.18 [-13.02]
18 Vitantonio Liuzzi 29 [-1] - - - 444.41 [-20.85]
19 Alexander Wurz 16 - - - 338.92 [-3.97]
20 Anthony Davidson 21 - - - 333.09 [-3.81]

21 Adrian Sutil 23 [+1] - - - 324.17 [+11.14] **

24 Sebastian Vettel 14 [+1] - - - 254.63 [+40.70] **

27 Kazuki Nakajima 7 [+1] - - - 177.02 [+30.80] **

30 (32) Timo Glock 6 [+1] - - - 109.99 [+20.52] **
31 (33) Nelson Piquet 6 [+1] - - - 87.32 [+10.29] **

33 (34) Sébastien Bourdais 6 [+1] - - - 76.38 [+3.17] **

Thirty seven drivers have driven in the last two years (104 weeks).


The last 52 weeks (1 year)
==========================

First race (#1) - Monaco GP, 27 May 2007 (GP #773)
Last race (#19) - Monaco GP, 25 May 2008 (GP #791)

Headlines
=========

In the 52-weeks table Räikkönen moves ahead of team-mate Massa to 2nd
place. Kubica overhauls his team-mate Heidfeld. Webber moves ahead of
Trulli. Sebastian Vettel moves into the top 20.

Driver GPs PP W FL Points [Change]
==================================================================
1 Lewis Hamilton 19 7 6 1 2338.57 [+56.31] **
2 (3) Kimi Räikkönen 19 3 7 8 2141.10 [+48.54] **
3 (2) Felipe Massa 18 6 3 4 1981.97 [-142.01] **
4 Fernando Alonso 19 2 3 3 1529.92 [-67.52] **
5 (6) Robert Kubica 18 1 - - 834.34 [+38.11] **
6 (5) Nick Heidfeld 19 - - 1 809.49 [-0.91] **
7 Heikki Kovalainen 19 - - 2 701.96 [-8.81] **
8 Nico Rosberg 19 - - - 484.92 [-24.66] **
9 (10) Mark Webber 19 - - - 455.10 [+40.30] **
10 (9) Jarno Trulli 19 - - - 429.67 [+13.17] **

11 David Coulthard 19 - - - 372.88 [-37.18] **
12 (15) Rubens Barrichello 18 - - - 362.91 [+14.59] **
13 (12) Giancarlo Fisichella 18 - - - 359.55 [-14.29] **
14 Jenson Button 19 - - - 350.69 [-1.66] **
15 (13) Takuma Sato 17 [-1] - - - 336.23 [-27.55]
16 Alexander Wurz 12 [-1] - - - 289.47 [-5.72]
17 (18) Adrian Sutil 19 - - - 270.68 [-7.45] **
18 (17) Anthony Davidson 17 [-1] - - - 262.90 [-22.40]
19 (21) Sebastian Vettel 14 [+1] - - - 254.63 [+40.70] **
20 (19) Ralf Schumacher 13 [-1] - - - 225.38 [-13.64]

22 Kazuki Nakajima 7 [+1] - - - 177.02 [+30.80] **

24 (25) Timo Glock 6 [+1] - - - 109.99 [+20.52] **
25 (26) Nelson Piquet 6 [+1] - - - 87.32 [+10.29] **
26 (27) Sébastien Bourdais 6 [+1] - - - 76.38 [+3.17] **

Twenty nine drivers have driven in the last year (52 weeks).


All-time Top 60
===============

The addition of the 2008 Monaco results changes the averages for the six
current drivers in the all-time top 60. Lewis Hamilton's win adds a
significant amount to his average - even though he is still only counting
75% of his full race average. Before Monaco he was ranked 22 with an
average of 60.36. Adding his Monaco haul pushes his average to 91.30
and elevates him to 10th. Alonso and Räikkönen remain static, but drop
one place as Hamilton moves up. Felipe Massa's pole position and second
place are enough to move him up two place at the expense of Tony Brooks
and James Hunt. David Coulthard's average falls slightly, but not enough
to lose places. Rubens Barrichello's average also falls a fraction, but
in his case, enough to drop below Jacques Villeneuve.

Current drivers are indicated by a '*'. Their averages are volatile and
will fluctuate from race to race.

Drivers with a limited number of starts are indicated by '%1', '%2' or
'%3' showing those with 25%, 50% and 75% of their respective averages.

Laps Laps Total Race
GPs PP W FL Led Raced Points Avg. WDC
====================================================================
1. Juan Manuel Fangio 51 30 23 23 1348 3031 9707 190.33 5
2. Alberto Ascari 31 14 13 13 925 1650 5455 175.98 2
3. Jim Clark 72 33 25 28 1943 3923 10622 147.53 2
4. Michael Schumacher 246 67 91 76 4996 13788 31350 127.44 7
5. Ayrton Senna 158 63 41 20 2967 8054 18243 115.46 3
6. Stirling Moss 64 16 16 18 1181 3304 6666 104.15 0
7. Giuseppe Farina 33 5 5 5 338 1827 3427 103.83 1
8. Jackie Stewart 99 17 27 15 1921 5216 9875 99.75 3
9. Alain Prost 198 33 51 41 2680 10485 19547 98.72 4
10. Lewis Hamilton %3 * 23 7 6 2 427 1407 2800 91.30 0

11. Damon Hill 114 20 22 19 1358 5778 9747 85.50 1
12. Fernando Alonso * 108 17 19 11 1159 6107 8999 83.32 2
13. Froilan González %3 26 3 2 6 272 1273 2058 79.15 0
14. Nigel Mansell 185 32 31 29 2077 8705 13827 74.74 1
15. Kimi Räikkönen * 126 15 17 28 949 6360 9212 73.11 1
16. Mike Hawthorn 44 4 3 6 223 2341 3165 71.92 1
17. Mika Häkkinen 160 25 20 25 1479 7654 11277 70.48 2
18. Juan Pablo Montoya 91 13 7 12 595 4726 6219 68.34 0
19. Niki Lauda 167 24 25 24 1592 8033 11167 66.87 3
20. Nelson Piquet 202 24 23 23 1566 9773 12809 63.41 3

21. Jack Brabham 125 13 14 12 818 6109 7765 62.12 3
22. Phil Hill 48 6 3 6 171 2413 2958 61.62 1
23. Felipe Massa * 92 12 7 8 584 5056 5431 59.03 0
24. James Hunt 92 14 10 8 634 3890 5385 58.53 1
25. Tony Brooks 38 3 6 3 133 1601 2216 58.30 0
26. Jochen Rindt 60 10 6 3 387 2516 3384 56.40 1
27. Jacky Ickx 115 13 8 14 529 5646 6174 53.69 0
28. Wolfgang von Trips 27 1 2 0 156 1341 1448 53.61 0
29. Jody Scheckter 111 3 10 5 675 6034 5778 52.06 1
30. Ronnie Peterson 123 14 10 9 704 5686 6282 51.08 0

31. Carlos Reutemann 144 6 12 6 645 6943 7322 50.84 0
32. Graham Hill 176 13 14 10 1102 8759 8888 50.50 2
33. Denny Hulme 112 1 8 9 435 6231 5642 50.38 1
34. David Coulthard * 233 12 13 18 896 11767 11622 49.88 0
35. Mario Andretti