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Qualifying in France
Qualifying in France
Seemed terribly dull... is it just me, or is there something uninspiring
about knowing that one of the main players is already so far off the
front-row? I just couldn't get excited about what seemed like a fake fight.
Kimbo xx
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Seemed terribly dull... is it just me, or is there something uninspiring
about knowing that one of the main players is already so far off the
front-row? I just couldn't get excited about what seemed like a fake fight.
Kimbo xx
--
w w w .bykimbo . com
Re: Qualifying in France
Kim Andrews wrote:
> Seemed terribly dull... is it just me, or is there something uninspiring
> about knowing that one of the main players is already so far off the
> front-row? I just couldn't get excited about what seemed like a fake fight.
First qualifying I've seen in quite some time, and I have to agree. It
felt like they were battling with one hand behind their backs. I was
surprised how far off the pace the BMWs were, though. I couldn't follow
that part of the Swedish commentary - any reason?
--
Stephen M Baines
* w w w .kitschcamppalace.org.uk
* w w w .alledal.nu
Kim Andrews wrote:
> Seemed terribly dull... is it just me, or is there something uninspiring
> about knowing that one of the main players is already so far off the
> front-row? I just couldn't get excited about what seemed like a fake fight.
First qualifying I've seen in quite some time, and I have to agree. It
felt like they were battling with one hand behind their backs. I was
surprised how far off the pace the BMWs were, though. I couldn't follow
that part of the Swedish commentary - any reason?
--
Stephen M Baines
* w w w .kitschcamppalace.org.uk
* w w w .alledal.nu
Re: Qualifying in France
Stephen M Baines wrote:
> Kim Andrews wrote:
>> Seemed terribly dull... is it just me, or is there something
>> uninspiring about knowing that one of the main players is already so
>> far off the front-row? I just couldn't get excited about what seemed
>> like a fake fight.
>
> First qualifying I've seen in quite some time, and I have to agree. It
> felt like they were battling with one hand behind their backs. I was
> surprised how far off the pace the BMWs were, though. I couldn't follow
> that part of the Swedish commentary - any reason?
>
Not really, the ITV crew were surprised and mystified, and BMW didn't
offer any explanation. Various bits about how the BMW were showing
oversteer going in and understeer coming out of every corner... but not
*why*.
Kimbo xx
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w w w .bykimbo . com
Stephen M Baines wrote:
> Kim Andrews wrote:
>> Seemed terribly dull... is it just me, or is there something
>> uninspiring about knowing that one of the main players is already so
>> far off the front-row? I just couldn't get excited about what seemed
>> like a fake fight.
>
> First qualifying I've seen in quite some time, and I have to agree. It
> felt like they were battling with one hand behind their backs. I was
> surprised how far off the pace the BMWs were, though. I couldn't follow
> that part of the Swedish commentary - any reason?
>
Not really, the ITV crew were surprised and mystified, and BMW didn't
offer any explanation. Various bits about how the BMW were showing
oversteer going in and understeer coming out of every corner... but not
*why*.
Kimbo xx
--
w w w .bykimbo . com
Re: Qualifying in France
Kim Andrews wrote:
> Stephen M Baines wrote:
>> Kim Andrews wrote:
>>> Seemed terribly dull... is it just me, or is there something
>>> uninspiring about knowing that one of the main players is already so
>>> far off the front-row? I just couldn't get excited about what seemed
>>> like a fake fight.
>>
>> First qualifying I've seen in quite some time, and I have to agree. It
>> felt like they were battling with one hand behind their backs. I was
>> surprised how far off the pace the BMWs were, though. I couldn't
>> follow that part of the Swedish commentary - any reason?
>>
>
> Not really, the ITV crew were surprised and mystified, and BMW didn't
> offer any explanation. Various bits about how the BMW were showing
> oversteer going in and understeer coming out of every corner... but not
> *why*.
Steve Matchett said the BMWs seem to be heavily optimized to exploit low
drag when it's appropriate, but are less stellar with medium- to
high-downforce setups. He remarked that their aero guy is rather into
the little details that are so important in minimizing drag, but when it
comes to some other areas "doesn't love it as much."
Note also that in France they'll be running stiffer suspensions and
lower ride heights than anywhere else, so they're into a unique
parameter space when it comes to generating downforce.
--
Mark Jackson - * w w w .alumni.caltech.edu/~mjackson
Men become civilized, not in proportion to their
willingness to believe, but in proportion to their
readiness to doubt. - H. L. Mencken
Kim Andrews wrote:
> Stephen M Baines wrote:
>> Kim Andrews wrote:
>>> Seemed terribly dull... is it just me, or is there something
>>> uninspiring about knowing that one of the main players is already so
>>> far off the front-row? I just couldn't get excited about what seemed
>>> like a fake fight.
>>
>> First qualifying I've seen in quite some time, and I have to agree. It
>> felt like they were battling with one hand behind their backs. I was
>> surprised how far off the pace the BMWs were, though. I couldn't
>> follow that part of the Swedish commentary - any reason?
>>
>
> Not really, the ITV crew were surprised and mystified, and BMW didn't
> offer any explanation. Various bits about how the BMW were showing
> oversteer going in and understeer coming out of every corner... but not
> *why*.
Steve Matchett said the BMWs seem to be heavily optimized to exploit low
drag when it's appropriate, but are less stellar with medium- to
high-downforce setups. He remarked that their aero guy is rather into
the little details that are so important in minimizing drag, but when it
comes to some other areas "doesn't love it as much."
Note also that in France they'll be running stiffer suspensions and
lower ride heights than anywhere else, so they're into a unique
parameter space when it comes to generating downforce.
--
Mark Jackson - * w w w .alumni.caltech.edu/~mjackson
Men become civilized, not in proportion to their
willingness to believe, but in proportion to their
readiness to doubt. - H. L. Mencken
Re: Qualifying in France
Mark Jackson wrote:
> Steve Matchett said the BMWs seem to be heavily optimized to exploit low
> drag when it's appropriate, but are less stellar with medium- to
> high-downforce setups. He remarked that their aero guy is rather into
> the little details that are so important in minimizing drag, but when it
> comes to some other areas "doesn't love it as much."
Sounds like he may need a steering hand, a bit like Newey seemed to
benefit from at Williams.
--
Stephen M Baines
* w w w .kitschcamppalace.org.uk
* w w w .alledal.nu
Mark Jackson wrote:
> Steve Matchett said the BMWs seem to be heavily optimized to exploit low
> drag when it's appropriate, but are less stellar with medium- to
> high-downforce setups. He remarked that their aero guy is rather into
> the little details that are so important in minimizing drag, but when it
> comes to some other areas "doesn't love it as much."
Sounds like he may need a steering hand, a bit like Newey seemed to
benefit from at Williams.
--
Stephen M Baines
* w w w .kitschcamppalace.org.uk
* w w w .alledal.nu
Re: Qualifying in France
Mark Jackson wrote:
> Steve Matchett said the BMWs seem to be heavily optimized to exploit low
> drag when it's appropriate, but are less stellar with medium- to
> high-downforce setups. He remarked that their aero guy is rather into
> the little details that are so important in minimizing drag, but when it
> comes to some other areas "doesn't love it as much."
>
> Note also that in France they'll be running stiffer suspensions and
> lower ride heights than anywhere else, so they're into a unique
> parameter space when it comes to generating downforce.
And now I've just posted the last message, I've just remembered what it
reminded me of! It's a Reverse March! The gorgeous little Adrian Newey
Leyton House March that failed to qualify the previous race, and then
almost won the French GP the following race.
--
Stephen M Baines
* w w w .kitschcamppalace.org.uk
* w w w .alledal.nu
Mark Jackson wrote:
> Steve Matchett said the BMWs seem to be heavily optimized to exploit low
> drag when it's appropriate, but are less stellar with medium- to
> high-downforce setups. He remarked that their aero guy is rather into
> the little details that are so important in minimizing drag, but when it
> comes to some other areas "doesn't love it as much."
>
> Note also that in France they'll be running stiffer suspensions and
> lower ride heights than anywhere else, so they're into a unique
> parameter space when it comes to generating downforce.
And now I've just posted the last message, I've just remembered what it
reminded me of! It's a Reverse March! The gorgeous little Adrian Newey
Leyton House March that failed to qualify the previous race, and then
almost won the French GP the following race.
--
Stephen M Baines
* w w w .kitschcamppalace.org.uk
* w w w .alledal.nu
Re: Qualifying in France
Kim Andrews wrote:
> Not really, the ITV crew were surprised and mystified, and BMW didn't
> offer any explanation. Various bits about how the BMW were showing
> oversteer going in and understeer coming out of every corner... but not
> *why*.
Ok, so if everyone is mystified, I'm happy ;)
--
Stephen M Baines
* w w w .kitschcamppalace.org.uk
* w w w .alledal.nu
Kim Andrews wrote:
> Not really, the ITV crew were surprised and mystified, and BMW didn't
> offer any explanation. Various bits about how the BMW were showing
> oversteer going in and understeer coming out of every corner... but not
> *why*.
Ok, so if everyone is mystified, I'm happy ;)
--
Stephen M Baines
* w w w .kitschcamppalace.org.uk
* w w w .alledal.nu
Re: Qualifying in France
Kim Andrews <bykimbo@hotmail . com > wrote in
news:6c4nadF3eanvaU1@mid.individual . net :
> Seemed terribly dull... is it just me, or is there something
> uninspiring about knowing that one of the main players is already so
> far off the front-row? I just couldn't get excited about what seemed
> like a fake fight.
>
Yeah, it was pretty uneventful - except for Ham's near wipeout. But he
*could* have made 10th/temporary pole apparently. They were a full
second slower than 2nd round and he said he could have got 2 or 3 tenths
- perhaps bravado that as it's just what he missed it by. But only two
laps in Q3 is nonsence. Might as well go back to two lap single car - no
blocking problems either.
Kim Andrews <bykimbo@hotmail . com > wrote in
news:6c4nadF3eanvaU1@mid.individual . net :
> Seemed terribly dull... is it just me, or is there something
> uninspiring about knowing that one of the main players is already so
> far off the front-row? I just couldn't get excited about what seemed
> like a fake fight.
>
Yeah, it was pretty uneventful - except for Ham's near wipeout. But he
*could* have made 10th/temporary pole apparently. They were a full
second slower than 2nd round and he said he could have got 2 or 3 tenths
- perhaps bravado that as it's just what he missed it by. But only two
laps in Q3 is nonsence. Might as well go back to two lap single car - no
blocking problems either.
Re: Qualifying in France
APLer wrote:
> Yeah, it was pretty uneventful - except for Ham's near wipeout. But he
> *could* have made 10th/temporary pole apparently. They were a full
> second slower than 2nd round and he said he could have got 2 or 3 tenths
> - perhaps bravado that as it's just what he missed it by. But only two
> laps in Q3 is nonsence. Might as well go back to two lap single car - no
> blocking problems either.
And you get to see every car on the track. There seemed to be an
inordinate amount of coverage of Massa's car even when it wasn't really
doing anything.
--
Stephen M Baines
* w w w .kitschcamppalace.org.uk
* w w w .alledal.nu
APLer wrote:
> Yeah, it was pretty uneventful - except for Ham's near wipeout. But he
> *could* have made 10th/temporary pole apparently. They were a full
> second slower than 2nd round and he said he could have got 2 or 3 tenths
> - perhaps bravado that as it's just what he missed it by. But only two
> laps in Q3 is nonsence. Might as well go back to two lap single car - no
> blocking problems either.
And you get to see every car on the track. There seemed to be an
inordinate amount of coverage of Massa's car even when it wasn't really
doing anything.
--
Stephen M Baines
* w w w .kitschcamppalace.org.uk
* w w w .alledal.nu
Re: Qualifying in France
On Sat, 21 Jun 2008 10:10:08 -0600, Kim Andrews wrote
(in article <6c4nadF3eanvaU1@mid.individual . net >):
> Seemed terribly dull... is it just me, or is there something uninspiring
> about knowing that one of the main players is already so far off the
> front-row? I just couldn't get excited about what seemed like a fake fight.
Speaking of fights, we get some free ones tonight. But back on topic I
figure Lewis will definitely win this one and show that he's not one to be
ignored. The penalty isn't all that bad as it is valid yet I still figure
we'll see him on the podium and likely at the top. How's that for faith?
xxx to yourself :-)
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Cheers!
Dennis
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On Sat, 21 Jun 2008 10:10:08 -0600, Kim Andrews wrote
(in article <6c4nadF3eanvaU1@mid.individual . net >):
> Seemed terribly dull... is it just me, or is there something uninspiring
> about knowing that one of the main players is already so far off the
> front-row? I just couldn't get excited about what seemed like a fake fight.
Speaking of fights, we get some free ones tonight. But back on topic I
figure Lewis will definitely win this one and show that he's not one to be
ignored. The penalty isn't all that bad as it is valid yet I still figure
we'll see him on the podium and likely at the top. How's that for faith?
xxx to yourself :-)
--
Cheers!
Dennis
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