Bernie admits talks with Donington Park

Re: Bernie admits talks with Donington Park

Mark Jackson wrote:
> Kim Andrews wrote:
>> Not so sure about that. They could easily lease back 2010 to
>> Silverstone for the right price. Seems the likeliest outcome to me,
>> thus far.
>
> You may be right - although Bernie says they're never going back to
> Silverstone after 2009 this can of course be discounted (the Magny-Cours
> precedent).

Bernie was shown on ITV saying that Donington and Silverstone could do a
deal that passed the raced back to Silverstone, and that would be a
commercial decision for the two circuits and nothing to do with him.
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Re: Bernie admits talks with Donington Park


"Kim Andrews" <bykimbo@hotmail,com > wrote in message
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>
> The little I've picked up (and I admit I haven't gone looking) seems to be
> based around a fan-based debenture issue? I remain utterly unconvinced by
> the potential of that, if it's right.

Two words: MasterCard Lola.

regards
Ian

Re: Bernie admits talks with Donington Park

Ian Hill wrote:
> "Kim Andrews" <bykimbo@hotmail,com > wrote in message
> news:6dsj9vF4678tU1@mid.individual,net ...
>> The little I've picked up (and I admit I haven't gone looking) seems to be
>> based around a fan-based debenture issue? I remain utterly unconvinced by
>> the potential of that, if it's right.
>
> Two words: MasterCard Lola.
>

<guffaw> Well played!

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Re: Bernie admits talks with Donington Park

[Default] Thus spake Mark Jackson <mjackson@alumni.caltech.edu>:

>Mark Jackson wrote:
>
>> Never will happen. Watkins Glen has a better chance of hosting the 2009
>> USGP.
>
>Still can't see how this makes sense - if Silverstone would lose money
>paying the full FOM fee how would Donington do better? - but I am
>checking the state of my camping equipment. The Glen is just down the
>road from Rochester. . . .

Yeah, I'll be there. The Fit can handle the whole load and gets 35
MPG doing 75 MPH on a road trip. I have the new brake pedal to left
foot brake, just have to install the sucker.

Re: Bernie admits talks with Donington Park

Stephen M Baines <usenet@localhost.kitschcamppalace.org.uk> wrote in
news:1tssi5-gtv.ln1@ascari.gasny.homeip,net :

> Typical, eh?
>
> "We are discussing the possibility of reaching an agreement with
> Donington to host the British Grand Prix," Ecclestone was quoted as
> saying.
>
> "We are trying to save the British Grand Prix and we want it to be
> staged at a venue which befits an event of its stature. I've been in
> negotiations for a long time and whether or not we're going to do a
> deal with Donington or Silverstone, I don't know.
>
> "Donington have said they are going to build everything we want. Have
> they got the money? Only time will tell. But I think there is more
> chance of Donington having the money than the BRDC."
>
Germany has two venues, why not the UK? Seems to me as a strong
possibility.

Re: Bernie admits talks with Donington Park

APLer wrote:

> Germany has two venues, why not the UK? Seems to me as a strong
> possibility.

Not even a remote possibility these days. One GP max. The talk is
Donington replacing Silverstone.

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Stephen M Baines <usenet@localhost.kitschcamppalace.org.uk> wrote in
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> APLer wrote:
>
>> Germany has two venues, why not the UK? Seems to me as a strong
>> possibility.
>
> Not even a remote possibility these days. One GP max. The talk is
> Donington replacing Silverstone.
>
I'm not so sure. Do you have some evidence of such? I would say the
possibility of Australia being dropped is much more likely.

Re: Bernie admits talks with Donington Park

APLer wrote:
> Stephen M Baines <usenet@localhost.kitschcamppalace.org.uk> wrote in
> news:thkui5-256.ln1@ascari.gasny.homeip,net :
>
>> APLer wrote:
>>
>>> Germany has two venues, why not the UK? Seems to me as a strong
>>> possibility.
>> Not even a remote possibility these days. One GP max. The talk is
>> Donington replacing Silverstone.
>>
> I'm not so sure. Do you have some evidence of such? I would say the
> possibility of Australia being dropped is much more likely.

Yeah, all the articles quoting Bernie in The Times, Autosport, etc.

If any countries were getting a spare GP it would not be in the UK
today. We don't have a supportive enough government. Heck, even the
French can't keep their GP!

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"Stephen M Baines" <usenet@localhost.kitschcamppalace.org.uk> wrote in
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> "We are trying to save the British Grand Prix and we want it to be staged
> at a venue which befits an event of its stature.


<guffaw>

With the best will in the world... Donington?

Paul

Re: Bernie admits talks with Donington Park

Paul Ian Harman wrote:
> "Stephen M Baines" <usenet@localhost.kitschcamppalace.org.uk> wrote in
> message news:1tssi5-gtv.ln1@ascari.gasny.homeip,net ...
>> "We are trying to save the British Grand Prix and we want it to be staged
>> at a venue which befits an event of its stature.
>
>
> <guffaw>
>
> With the best will in the world... Donington?

If they are going to put the money in, which it seems they are, why not?
Silverstone was just a converted airfield. Why not a 1st class facility
at Donington? It's not reliant on just Tom Wheatcroft's money any more.
And it needs the work to make sure it keeps the motoGP etc, too.

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Re: Bernie admits talks with Donington Park

Stephen M Baines wrote:

> Paul Ian Harman wrote:
> >"Stephen M Baines" <usenet@localhost.kitschcamppalace.org.uk> wrote
> in message news:1tssi5-gtv.ln1@ascari.gasny.homeip,net ...
> > > "We are trying to save the British Grand Prix and we want it to
> > > be staged at a venue which befits an event of its stature.
> >
> >
> > <guffaw>
> >
> > With the best will in the world... Donington?
>
> If they are going to put the money in, which it seems they are, why
> not? Silverstone was just a converted airfield. Why not a 1st class
> facility at Donington? It's not reliant on just Tom Wheatcroft's
> money any more. And it needs the work to make sure it keeps the
> motoGP etc, too.

I'd hate to see Donington ruined. F1-style runoffs at Druids, for
instance, would spoil the view for many of us who like to get
reasonably close to the action.

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Re: Bernie admits talks with Donington Park

Paul-B wrote:
> Stephen M Baines wrote:
>
>> Paul Ian Harman wrote:
>>> "Stephen M Baines" <usenet@localhost.kitschcamppalace.org.uk> wrote
>> in message news:1tssi5-gtv.ln1@ascari.gasny.homeip,net ...
>>>> "We are trying to save the British Grand Prix and we want it to
>>>> be staged at a venue which befits an event of its stature.
>>>
>>> <guffaw>
>>>
>>> With the best will in the world... Donington?
>> If they are going to put the money in, which it seems they are, why
>> not? Silverstone was just a converted airfield. Why not a 1st class
>> facility at Donington? It's not reliant on just Tom Wheatcroft's
>> money any more. And it needs the work to make sure it keeps the
>> motoGP etc, too.
>
> I'd hate to see Donington ruined. F1-style runoffs at Druids, for
> instance, would spoil the view for many of us who like to get
> reasonably close to the action.

Sadly, I agree, but I think it's inevitable these days that circuits
either F1-Up or get sold for housing in the UK.

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"Stephen M Baines" <usenet@localhost.kitschcamppalace.org.uk> wrote in
message news:67c6j5-nvt.ln1@ascari.gasny.homeip,net ...
> If they are going to put the money in, which it seems they are, why not?
> Silverstone was just a converted airfield. Why not a 1st class facility at
> Donington? It's not reliant on just Tom Wheatcroft's money any more. And
> it needs the work to make sure it keeps the motoGP etc, too.


It's got to be less money to get Silverstone up to scratch than pretty much
any other facility, and that way we only need to Tilkefy one UK race track.

If not Silverstone, then plough the money into Brands, which has to be the
next closest (the money would mostly need using telling the new housing
estate to stop whining).

Paul

Re: Bernie admits talks with Donington Park

Paul Ian Harman wrote:
> "Stephen M Baines" <usenet@localhost.kitschcamppalace.org.uk> wrote in
> message news:67c6j5-nvt.ln1@ascari.gasny.homeip,net ...
>> If they are going to put the money in, which it seems they are, why not?
>> Silverstone was just a converted airfield. Why not a 1st class facility at
>> Donington? It's not reliant on just Tom Wheatcroft's money any more. And
>> it needs the work to make sure it keeps the motoGP etc, too.
>
>
> It's got to be less money to get Silverstone up to scratch than pretty much
> any other facility, and that way we only need to Tilkefy one UK race track.

But Donington now has a far richer owner than Silverstone has, plus they
haven't spent the last few years whining and whining to Bernie and
generally winding him up.

> If not Silverstone, then plough the money into Brands, which has to be the
> next closest (the money would mostly need using telling the new housing
> estate to stop whining).

Which is why it won't happen. Brands lost it's chances when Nicola
Foulston sold the family jewels to property developers and beefed up
anti-terror rules make radio a major issue.

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Stephen M Baines wrote:
> Paul Ian Harman wrote:
>> "Stephen M Baines" <usenet@localhost.kitschcamppalace.org.uk> wrote in
>> message news:67c6j5-nvt.ln1@ascari.gasny.homeip,net ...
>>> If they are going to put the money in, which it seems they are, why
>>> not? Silverstone was just a converted airfield. Why not a 1st class
>>> facility at Donington? It's not reliant on just Tom Wheatcroft's
>>> money any more. And it needs the work to make sure it keeps the
>>> motoGP etc, too.
>>
>>
>> It's got to be less money to get Silverstone up to scratch than pretty
>> much any other facility, and that way we only need to Tilkefy one UK
>> race track.
>
> But Donington now has a far richer owner than Silverstone has, plus they
> haven't spent the last few years whining and whining to Bernie and
> generally winding him up.

Hate to say "told you so", but...

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