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Re: Versus and ABC in new Indy Car TV Deal
On Aug 7, 5:17 pm, KKKen Plotkin
<ElSenadorAsno@NoForeignBornDriversShouldHaveASay.corn> wrote:
> On Thu, 7 Aug 2008 12:29:47 -0700 (PDT), Lenny <hayso...@hotmail,com >
> wrote:
>
> >Ya think???? Nahhhhh. We were told the IRL always got TV money for
> >each and every race and never had to pay. I believe each and every
> >word I read on the internet.
>
> Back when it was IRL, that's how it worked. But now [snip]
It's the IRL now replete with the drug-addled megalomaniac and his
cabal of imbeciles in charge. So you should stop your incessant
whining. In short, why don’t you just sack the fuck up?
On Aug 7, 5:17 pm, KKKen Plotkin
<ElSenadorAsno@NoForeignBornDriversShouldHaveASay.corn> wrote:
> On Thu, 7 Aug 2008 12:29:47 -0700 (PDT), Lenny <hayso...@hotmail,com >
> wrote:
>
> >Ya think???? Nahhhhh. We were told the IRL always got TV money for
> >each and every race and never had to pay. I believe each and every
> >word I read on the internet.
>
> Back when it was IRL, that's how it worked. But now [snip]
It's the IRL now replete with the drug-addled megalomaniac and his
cabal of imbeciles in charge. So you should stop your incessant
whining. In short, why don’t you just sack the fuck up?
Re: Versus and ABC in new Indy Car TV Deal
On Aug 7, 8:17 pm, Ken Plotkin <kplot...@nospam-cox,net > wrote:
> On Thu, 7 Aug 2008 12:29:47 -0700 (PDT), Lenny <hayso...@hotmail,com >
> wrote:
>
> >Ya think???? Nahhhhh. We were told the IRL always got TV money for
> >each and every race and never had to pay. I believe each and every
> >word I read on the internet.
>
> Back when it was IRL, that's how it worked.
That's how we were told it worked. I never saw any contract and don't
remember any official announcement about ABC paying for every race.
They are obviously not happy with the numbers they were producing so I
guess Versus made a better offer.
> But now that it's been
> diluted with "transition teams" they don't quite have the same
> product. Think of this as kind of a middle ground between what IRL
> had and CCWS's last TV deal.
Now that the battle is over I would imagine ABC didn't offer as much
and Versus did.
>
> Once I figured out what Versus is, and found that I have it, I'm
> happy. There'll be more coverage. More pre-race and wrap-up.
> Shouldn't be any more timed races. Repeats during the week, in case
> I'm away over the weekend.
>
> If they hire good announcers, it ought to be like when IRL was on
> Speed.
I hope you are right. Versus has a great Tour de France program with
most of the stuff you are mentioning. I won't miss the local ABC
affiliate showing a weather alert every 10 seconds, either.
On Aug 7, 8:17 pm, Ken Plotkin <kplot...@nospam-cox,net > wrote:
> On Thu, 7 Aug 2008 12:29:47 -0700 (PDT), Lenny <hayso...@hotmail,com >
> wrote:
>
> >Ya think???? Nahhhhh. We were told the IRL always got TV money for
> >each and every race and never had to pay. I believe each and every
> >word I read on the internet.
>
> Back when it was IRL, that's how it worked.
That's how we were told it worked. I never saw any contract and don't
remember any official announcement about ABC paying for every race.
They are obviously not happy with the numbers they were producing so I
guess Versus made a better offer.
> But now that it's been
> diluted with "transition teams" they don't quite have the same
> product. Think of this as kind of a middle ground between what IRL
> had and CCWS's last TV deal.
Now that the battle is over I would imagine ABC didn't offer as much
and Versus did.
>
> Once I figured out what Versus is, and found that I have it, I'm
> happy. There'll be more coverage. More pre-race and wrap-up.
> Shouldn't be any more timed races. Repeats during the week, in case
> I'm away over the weekend.
>
> If they hire good announcers, it ought to be like when IRL was on
> Speed.
I hope you are right. Versus has a great Tour de France program with
most of the stuff you are mentioning. I won't miss the local ABC
affiliate showing a weather alert every 10 seconds, either.
Re: Versus and ABC in new Indy Car TV Deal
"Lenny" <haysooce@hotmail,com > wrote in message
news:50d6d461-a479-44f1-a062-832994172dea@f36g2000hsa.googlegroups,com ...
> On Aug 7, 8:17 pm, Ken Plotkin <kplot...@nospam-cox,net > wrote:
>> On Thu, 7 Aug 2008 12:29:47 -0700 (PDT), Lenny <hayso...@hotmail,com >
>> wrote:
>>
>> >Ya think???? Nahhhhh. We were told the IRL always got TV money for
>> >each and every race and never had to pay. I believe each and every
>> >word I read on the internet.
>>
>> Back when it was IRL, that's how it worked.
>
> That's how we were told it worked. I never saw any contract and don't
> remember any official announcement about ABC paying for every race.
> They are obviously not happy with the numbers they were producing so I
> guess Versus made a better offer.
>
>> But now that it's been
>> diluted with "transition teams" they don't quite have the same
>> product. Think of this as kind of a middle ground between what IRL
>> had and CCWS's last TV deal.
>
> Now that the battle is over I would imagine ABC didn't offer as much
> and Versus did.
>
>>
>> Once I figured out what Versus is, and found that I have it, I'm
>> happy. There'll be more coverage. More pre-race and wrap-up.
>> Shouldn't be any more timed races. Repeats during the week, in case
>> I'm away over the weekend.
>>
>> If they hire good announcers, it ought to be like when IRL was on
>> Speed.
>
> I hope you are right. Versus has a great Tour de France program with
> most of the stuff you are mentioning. I won't miss the local ABC
> affiliate showing a weather alert every 10 seconds, either.
Versus does a great job with the Tour de France. They do an excellent job
with it. Really, they should call that network the Tour de France channel
than Versus. It would be nice if Versus would show qualifying, at least for
the road courses.
"Lenny" <haysooce@hotmail,com > wrote in message
news:50d6d461-a479-44f1-a062-832994172dea@f36g2000hsa.googlegroups,com ...
> On Aug 7, 8:17 pm, Ken Plotkin <kplot...@nospam-cox,net > wrote:
>> On Thu, 7 Aug 2008 12:29:47 -0700 (PDT), Lenny <hayso...@hotmail,com >
>> wrote:
>>
>> >Ya think???? Nahhhhh. We were told the IRL always got TV money for
>> >each and every race and never had to pay. I believe each and every
>> >word I read on the internet.
>>
>> Back when it was IRL, that's how it worked.
>
> That's how we were told it worked. I never saw any contract and don't
> remember any official announcement about ABC paying for every race.
> They are obviously not happy with the numbers they were producing so I
> guess Versus made a better offer.
>
>> But now that it's been
>> diluted with "transition teams" they don't quite have the same
>> product. Think of this as kind of a middle ground between what IRL
>> had and CCWS's last TV deal.
>
> Now that the battle is over I would imagine ABC didn't offer as much
> and Versus did.
>
>>
>> Once I figured out what Versus is, and found that I have it, I'm
>> happy. There'll be more coverage. More pre-race and wrap-up.
>> Shouldn't be any more timed races. Repeats during the week, in case
>> I'm away over the weekend.
>>
>> If they hire good announcers, it ought to be like when IRL was on
>> Speed.
>
> I hope you are right. Versus has a great Tour de France program with
> most of the stuff you are mentioning. I won't miss the local ABC
> affiliate showing a weather alert every 10 seconds, either.
Versus does a great job with the Tour de France. They do an excellent job
with it. Really, they should call that network the Tour de France channel
than Versus. It would be nice if Versus would show qualifying, at least for
the road courses.
Re: Versus and ABC in new Indy Car TV Deal
Von Fourche wrote:
> "Lenny" <haysooce@hotmail,com > wrote in message
> news:50d6d461-a479-44f1-a062-832994172dea@f36g2000hsa.googlegroups,com ...
>> On Aug 7, 8:17 pm, Ken Plotkin <kplot...@nospam-cox,net > wrote:
>>> On Thu, 7 Aug 2008 12:29:47 -0700 (PDT), Lenny <hayso...@hotmail,com >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Ya think???? Nahhhhh. We were told the IRL always got TV money for
>>>> each and every race and never had to pay. I believe each and every
>>>> word I read on the internet.
>>> Back when it was IRL, that's how it worked.
>> That's how we were told it worked. I never saw any contract and don't
>> remember any official announcement about ABC paying for every race.
>> They are obviously not happy with the numbers they were producing so I
>> guess Versus made a better offer.
>>
>>> But now that it's been
>>> diluted with "transition teams" they don't quite have the same
>>> product. Think of this as kind of a middle ground between what IRL
>>> had and CCWS's last TV deal.
>> Now that the battle is over I would imagine ABC didn't offer as much
>> and Versus did.
>>
>>> Once I figured out what Versus is, and found that I have it, I'm
>>> happy. There'll be more coverage. More pre-race and wrap-up.
>>> Shouldn't be any more timed races. Repeats during the week, in case
>>> I'm away over the weekend.
>>>
>>> If they hire good announcers, it ought to be like when IRL was on
>>> Speed.
>> I hope you are right. Versus has a great Tour de France program with
>> most of the stuff you are mentioning. I won't miss the local ABC
>> affiliate showing a weather alert every 10 seconds, either.
>
>
>
> Versus does a great job with the Tour de France. They do an excellent job
> with it. Really, they should call that network the Tour de France channel
> than Versus. It would be nice if Versus would show qualifying, at least for
> the road courses.
>
>
Versus hopes to win over Indy-car fans with more coverage. In addition
to guaranteeing each race a minimum of three hours of airtime, Versus
will offer one-hour shows the day before races (generally qualification
days) plus specialty programs throughout the season.
http :// www .indystar,com /apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080808/SPORTS0107/808080439/1052/SPORTS01
Von Fourche wrote:
> "Lenny" <haysooce@hotmail,com > wrote in message
> news:50d6d461-a479-44f1-a062-832994172dea@f36g2000hsa.googlegroups,com ...
>> On Aug 7, 8:17 pm, Ken Plotkin <kplot...@nospam-cox,net > wrote:
>>> On Thu, 7 Aug 2008 12:29:47 -0700 (PDT), Lenny <hayso...@hotmail,com >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Ya think???? Nahhhhh. We were told the IRL always got TV money for
>>>> each and every race and never had to pay. I believe each and every
>>>> word I read on the internet.
>>> Back when it was IRL, that's how it worked.
>> That's how we were told it worked. I never saw any contract and don't
>> remember any official announcement about ABC paying for every race.
>> They are obviously not happy with the numbers they were producing so I
>> guess Versus made a better offer.
>>
>>> But now that it's been
>>> diluted with "transition teams" they don't quite have the same
>>> product. Think of this as kind of a middle ground between what IRL
>>> had and CCWS's last TV deal.
>> Now that the battle is over I would imagine ABC didn't offer as much
>> and Versus did.
>>
>>> Once I figured out what Versus is, and found that I have it, I'm
>>> happy. There'll be more coverage. More pre-race and wrap-up.
>>> Shouldn't be any more timed races. Repeats during the week, in case
>>> I'm away over the weekend.
>>>
>>> If they hire good announcers, it ought to be like when IRL was on
>>> Speed.
>> I hope you are right. Versus has a great Tour de France program with
>> most of the stuff you are mentioning. I won't miss the local ABC
>> affiliate showing a weather alert every 10 seconds, either.
>
>
>
> Versus does a great job with the Tour de France. They do an excellent job
> with it. Really, they should call that network the Tour de France channel
> than Versus. It would be nice if Versus would show qualifying, at least for
> the road courses.
>
>
Versus hopes to win over Indy-car fans with more coverage. In addition
to guaranteeing each race a minimum of three hours of airtime, Versus
will offer one-hour shows the day before races (generally qualification
days) plus specialty programs throughout the season.
http :// www .indystar,com /apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080808/SPORTS0107/808080439/1052/SPORTS01
Re: Versus and ABC in new Indy Car TV Deal
"Ken Plotkin" <kplotkin@nospam-cox,net > wrote in message
news:ps3n945l15otj62b1jdnu7ji14qugvjkct@4ax,com ...
>
> Back when it was IRL, that's how it worked. But now that it's been
> diluted with "transition teams" they don't quite have the same
> product. Think of this as kind of a middle ground between what IRL
> had and CCWS's last TV deal.
>
> Once I figured out what Versus is, and found that I have it, I'm
> happy. There'll be more coverage. More pre-race and wrap-up.
> Shouldn't be any more timed races. Repeats during the week, in case
> I'm away over the weekend.
>
> If they hire good announcers, it ought to be like when IRL was on
> Speed.
>
Versus is the old Outdoor Life Network (OLN).
Carey in Manvel
"Ken Plotkin" <kplotkin@nospam-cox,net > wrote in message
news:ps3n945l15otj62b1jdnu7ji14qugvjkct@4ax,com ...
>
> Back when it was IRL, that's how it worked. But now that it's been
> diluted with "transition teams" they don't quite have the same
> product. Think of this as kind of a middle ground between what IRL
> had and CCWS's last TV deal.
>
> Once I figured out what Versus is, and found that I have it, I'm
> happy. There'll be more coverage. More pre-race and wrap-up.
> Shouldn't be any more timed races. Repeats during the week, in case
> I'm away over the weekend.
>
> If they hire good announcers, it ought to be like when IRL was on
> Speed.
>
Versus is the old Outdoor Life Network (OLN).
Carey in Manvel
Re: Versus and ABC in new Indy Car TV Deal
Fine print, for those of you who are setting up your DVRs:
"The agreement also gives Versus the rights to carry all of the Indy
500 qualifying."
Fine print, for those of you who are setting up your DVRs:
"The agreement also gives Versus the rights to carry all of the Indy
500 qualifying."
Re: Versus and ABC in new Indy Car TV Deal
"forty" <cforteR3M0V3@THISgmail,com > wrote in message
news:6g0iq5Fd66dqU14@mid.individual,net ...
> ABC to air the Indy 500 and 4 other races. The rest will be on Versus.
>
> http :// www .autosport,com /news/report.php/id/69707
>
What a complete disaster this is for the IRL. I can't believe it - they
could not get a deal done to put this on at least ESPN2? This is a complete
disaster. I can't belie it - unification and now this? Ugh. What a
disaster.
"forty" <cforteR3M0V3@THISgmail,com > wrote in message
news:6g0iq5Fd66dqU14@mid.individual,net ...
> ABC to air the Indy 500 and 4 other races. The rest will be on Versus.
>
> http :// www .autosport,com /news/report.php/id/69707
>
What a complete disaster this is for the IRL. I can't believe it - they
could not get a deal done to put this on at least ESPN2? This is a complete
disaster. I can't belie it - unification and now this? Ugh. What a
disaster.
Re: Versus and ABC in new Indy Car TV Deal
"Von Fourche" <khonakong@hotmail,com > wrote in message
news:0pOdnaTQN9_zLwHVnZ2dnUVZ_tfinZ2d@earthlink,com ...
>
>
>
>
> What a complete disaster this is for the IRL. I can't believe it - they
> could not get a deal done to put this on at least ESPN2? This is a
> complete disaster. I can't belie it - unification and now this? Ugh.
> What a disaster.
ESPN2 is the Poker Channel. It looks like ESPN is drifting away from sports
the same way MTV drifted away from music.
Carey in Manvel
>
"Von Fourche" <khonakong@hotmail,com > wrote in message
news:0pOdnaTQN9_zLwHVnZ2dnUVZ_tfinZ2d@earthlink,com ...
>
>
>
>
> What a complete disaster this is for the IRL. I can't believe it - they
> could not get a deal done to put this on at least ESPN2? This is a
> complete disaster. I can't belie it - unification and now this? Ugh.
> What a disaster.
ESPN2 is the Poker Channel. It looks like ESPN is drifting away from sports
the same way MTV drifted away from music.
Carey in Manvel
>
Re: Versus and ABC in new Indy Car TV Deal
Carey Akin wrote:
> "Von Fourche" <khonakong@hotmail,com > wrote in message
> news:0pOdnaTQN9 zLwHVnZ2dnUVZ tfinZ2d@earthlink,com ...
>>
>>
>>
>> What a complete disaster this is for the IRL. I can't believe it - they
>> could not get a deal done to put this on at least ESPN2? This is a
>> complete disaster. I can't belie it - unification and now this? Ugh.
>> What a disaster.
> ESPN2 is the Poker Channel. It looks like ESPN is drifting away from sports
> the same way MTV drifted away from music.
>
> Carey in Manvel
>
>
not to pick nits, but the E has always stood for entertainment
Entertainment and Sports Programming Network
but yeah, I agree with your sentiment
Carey Akin wrote:
> "Von Fourche" <khonakong@hotmail,com > wrote in message
> news:0pOdnaTQN9 zLwHVnZ2dnUVZ tfinZ2d@earthlink,com ...
>>
>>
>>
>> What a complete disaster this is for the IRL. I can't believe it - they
>> could not get a deal done to put this on at least ESPN2? This is a
>> complete disaster. I can't belie it - unification and now this? Ugh.
>> What a disaster.
> ESPN2 is the Poker Channel. It looks like ESPN is drifting away from sports
> the same way MTV drifted away from music.
>
> Carey in Manvel
>
>
not to pick nits, but the E has always stood for entertainment
Entertainment and Sports Programming Network
but yeah, I agree with your sentiment
Re: Versus and ABC in new Indy Car TV Deal
"SG" <spaamtrapper@yahoo,com > wrote in message
news:j6GdnexzR9oFdgHVnZ2dnUVZ_qSdnZ2d@comcast,com ...
> Carey Akin wrote:
>> "Von Fourche" <khonakong@hotmail,com > wrote in message
>> news:0pOdnaTQN9_zLwHVnZ2dnUVZ_tfinZ2d@earthlink,com ...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> What a complete disaster this is for the IRL. I can't believe it -
>>> they could not get a deal done to put this on at least ESPN2? This is a
>>> complete disaster. I can't belie it - unification and now this? Ugh.
>>> What a disaster.
>> ESPN2 is the Poker Channel. It looks like ESPN is drifting away from
>> sports the same way MTV drifted away from music.
>>
>> Carey in Manvel
>>
>>
>
>
> not to pick nits, but the E has always stood for entertainment
>
> Entertainment and Sports Programming Network
>
> but yeah, I agree with your sentiment
And the regular ESPN channel has Sportscenter from early morning to 2pm or
so. I can't believe it - a 24 hour sports network that would rather
broadcast sports news during the day than showing the actual sporting
events. And they already have ESPN News.
"SG" <spaamtrapper@yahoo,com > wrote in message
news:j6GdnexzR9oFdgHVnZ2dnUVZ_qSdnZ2d@comcast,com ...
> Carey Akin wrote:
>> "Von Fourche" <khonakong@hotmail,com > wrote in message
>> news:0pOdnaTQN9_zLwHVnZ2dnUVZ_tfinZ2d@earthlink,com ...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> What a complete disaster this is for the IRL. I can't believe it -
>>> they could not get a deal done to put this on at least ESPN2? This is a
>>> complete disaster. I can't belie it - unification and now this? Ugh.
>>> What a disaster.
>> ESPN2 is the Poker Channel. It looks like ESPN is drifting away from
>> sports the same way MTV drifted away from music.
>>
>> Carey in Manvel
>>
>>
>
>
> not to pick nits, but the E has always stood for entertainment
>
> Entertainment and Sports Programming Network
>
> but yeah, I agree with your sentiment
And the regular ESPN channel has Sportscenter from early morning to 2pm or
so. I can't believe it - a 24 hour sports network that would rather
broadcast sports news during the day than showing the actual sporting
events. And they already have ESPN News.
