N is about to feel Detroit's chill

N is about to feel Detroit's chill

This author may be able to see into the future, altho I don't necessarily agree,
but it's certainly a topic that fans might want to debate.
CRU

NASCAR is about to feel Detroit's chill.
http :// www .autoextremist,com /fumes1/
June 25, 2008 By Peter M. De Lorenzo
--
Crusader

Re: N is about to feel Detroit's chill

On Wed, 25 Jun 2008 14:32:17 -0400, "Crusader" <cru357@sbcglobal,net >
wrote:

>This author may be able to see into the future, altho I don't necessarily agree,
>but it's certainly a topic that fans might want to debate.
>CRU
>
>NASCAR is about to feel Detroit's chill.
> http :// www .autoextremist,com /fumes1/
>June 25, 2008 By Peter M. De Lorenzo

I've read Mr. De Lorenzo for quite some time now, Despain even has him
on Wind Tunnel occasionally. Yes, his ideas can sound pie-in-the-sky
sometimes, but he was the one that said Toyota was coming, to NASCAR,
to Cup, several years before they ever moved into the CTS. He's the
one that also keeps saying that Ford is going to withdraw from NASCAR
at some future point (and that Ford will then eventually be replaced
in the paddock by Honda if Toyota had any Cup success - which has come
to pass this season).

His last big proclamation was similar to this one you've posted, but
it was centered on how "not like" any production cars the CoT looked,
and how that was going to turn off the Detroit automakers...He started
saying then (late 2006, early 2007?) that Detroit was going to retract
their blank check status from the big teams, starting over how
automakers wanted more brand identity than just a few decals on the
new cars. It appears he is sticking to his guns, and simply updates or
augments his arguments as new situations arise, like the current
losses/low sales beating the US auto industry is undergoing. Now is
definitely the time to buy bigger cars and trucks, they're cheap...if
you can afford the gas or diesel for them after you drive them off the
car lot.

Re: N is about to feel Detroit's chill

Time for a name change. I'd suggest IASCAR


"SimRacer" <NOsimracer68@yahoo,com SPAM> wrote in message
news:1j55649s470cmblk9tap6cgc133gicqap8@4ax,com ...
> On Wed, 25 Jun 2008 14:32:17 -0400, "Crusader" <cru357@sbcglobal,net >
> wrote:
>
>>This author may be able to see into the future, altho I don't necessarily
>>agree,
>>but it's certainly a topic that fans might want to debate.
>>CRU
>>
>>NASCAR is about to feel Detroit's chill.
>> http :// www .autoextremist,com /fumes1/
>>June 25, 2008 By Peter M. De Lorenzo
>
> I've read Mr. De Lorenzo for quite some time now, Despain even has him
> on Wind Tunnel occasionally. Yes, his ideas can sound pie-in-the-sky
> sometimes, but he was the one that said Toyota was coming, to NASCAR,
> to Cup, several years before they ever moved into the CTS. He's the
> one that also keeps saying that Ford is going to withdraw from NASCAR
> at some future point (and that Ford will then eventually be replaced
> in the paddock by Honda if Toyota had any Cup success - which has come
> to pass this season).
>
> His last big proclamation was similar to this one you've posted, but
> it was centered on how "not like" any production cars the CoT looked,
> and how that was going to turn off the Detroit automakers...He started
> saying then (late 2006, early 2007?) that Detroit was going to retract
> their blank check status from the big teams, starting over how
> automakers wanted more brand identity than just a few decals on the
> new cars. It appears he is sticking to his guns, and simply updates or
> augments his arguments as new situations arise, like the current
> losses/low sales beating the US auto industry is undergoing. Now is
> definitely the time to buy bigger cars and trucks, they're cheap...if
> you can afford the gas or diesel for them after you drive them off the
> car lot.

Re: N is about to feel Detroit's chill

SimRacer <NOsimracer68@yahoo,com SPAM> wrote in
news:1j55649s470cmblk9tap6cgc133gicqap8@4ax,com :

> His last big proclamation was similar to this one you've posted, but
> it was centered on how "not like" any production cars the CoT looked,
> and how that was going to turn off the Detroit automakers.

Can't say as I disagree with that idea. It would solve a lot of
NASCAR's problems if they went back to stock body outlines.

Of course, that would both mean having to do some work, and
admitting everything they've done for the past decade was wrong,
and neither is likely to be an attractive idea for the folk
running NASCAR.

John

Re: N is about to feel Detroit's chill


"Crusader" <cru357@sbcglobal,net > wrote in message
news:6cfhb5F3g51o4U1@mid.individual,net ...
> This author may be able to see into the future, altho I don't necessarily
> agree,
> but it's certainly a topic that fans might want to debate.
> CRU
>
> NASCAR is about to feel Detroit's chill.
> http :// www .autoextremist,com /fumes1/
> June 25, 2008 By Peter M. De Lorenzo
> --
> Crusader
>

No wonder that I have been reading this same stuff for years. The same guy
has been predicting it for years. If he lives long enough he will one day
be right about something.

Is this guy related to Robin Miller or did they just go to auto race hating
school together?

Re: N is about to feel Detroit's chill

RickyBobby wrote:
> "Crusader" <cru357@sbcglobal,net > wrote in message
> news:6cfhb5F3g51o4U1@mid.individual,net ...
>> This author may be able to see into the future, altho I don't
>> necessarily agree,
>> but it's certainly a topic that fans might want to debate.
>> CRU
>>
>> NASCAR is about to feel Detroit's chill.
>> http :// www .autoextremist,com /fumes1/
>> June 25, 2008 By Peter M. De Lorenzo
>> --
>> Crusader
>>
>
> No wonder that I have been reading this same stuff for years. The
> same guy has been predicting it for years. If he lives long enough
> he will one day be right about something.


????
It's happened before.
AMA - 1957
GM - 1963
(Yes, I know about the "back door", but the major
portion of the money allocated dried up)
It's no logical stretch to think that the return isn't worth
the money invested.

Re: N is about to feel Detroit's chill


"YooperBoyka" <cjdont@likeno.spam> wrote in message
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> RickyBobby wrote:
>> "Crusader" <cru357@sbcglobal,net > wrote in message
>> news:6cfhb5F3g51o4U1@mid.individual,net ...
>>> This author may be able to see into the future, altho I don't
>>> necessarily agree,
>>> but it's certainly a topic that fans might want to debate.
>>> CRU
>>>
>>> NASCAR is about to feel Detroit's chill.
>>> http :// www .autoextremist,com /fumes1/
>>> June 25, 2008 By Peter M. De Lorenzo
>>> --
>>> Crusader
>>>
>>
>> No wonder that I have been reading this same stuff for years. The
>> same guy has been predicting it for years. If he lives long enough
>> he will one day be right about something.
>
>
> ????
> It's happened before.
> AMA - 1957
> GM - 1963
> (Yes, I know about the "back door", but the major
> portion of the money allocated dried up)
> It's no logical stretch to think that the return isn't worth
> the money invested.

Nobody is holding a gun to their heads.

I still do not see why this writer wants to be a prophet of doom over
something that he just dreamed up.

The sky is falling! The sky is falling!

Re: N is about to feel Detroit's chill

RickyBobby wrote:
> "YooperBoyka" <cjdont@likeno.spam> wrote in message
> news:R mdnUT1OsbLOf7VnZ2dnUVZ j6dnZ2d@comcast,com ...
>> RickyBobby wrote:
>>> "Crusader" <cru357@sbcglobal,net > wrote in message
>>> news:6cfhb5F3g51o4U1@mid.individual,net ...
>>>> This author may be able to see into the future, altho I don't
>>>> necessarily agree,
>>>> but it's certainly a topic that fans might want to debate.
>>>> CRU
>>>>
>>>> NASCAR is about to feel Detroit's chill.
>>>> http :// www .autoextremist,com /fumes1/
>>>> June 25, 2008 By Peter M. De Lorenzo
>>>> --
>>>> Crusader
>>>>
>>>
>>> No wonder that I have been reading this same stuff for years. The
>>> same guy has been predicting it for years. If he lives long enough
>>> he will one day be right about something.
>>
>>
>> ????
>> It's happened before.
>> AMA - 1957
>> GM - 1963
>> (Yes, I know about the "back door", but the major
>> portion of the money allocated dried up)
>> It's no logical stretch to think that the return isn't worth
>> the money invested.
>
> Nobody is holding a gun to their heads.

...as if that was a point.

>
> I still do not see why this writer wants to be a prophet of doom over
> something that he just dreamed up.

Yeah, silly stuff like looking toward the future is pointless.
The sandbox isn't flooded yet, don't worry about the rain.

>
> The sky is falling! The sky is falling!

Not the sky perhaps, but maybe The Sword of Damocles?
Nah,...couldn't be.
The money will come, right?
Manna will fall from heaven and all will be saved.
Seriously, why would you think that racing would be immune
from economic trouble?
The entire damn racing industry grew by convincing manufacturers
of the "Win on Sunday, sell on Monday" concept.
They have before, and seem likely again to detach from the idea.
The death of motorsports?
I think not, but it would behoove those in power to get their
heads out of their asses long enough to make financial
contingency plans in case the domestic makers decide to spend
their coin on "more important" things.
How many "good ol' boys" you think will show up at Charlotte
if the three makes were Toyota, Honda, and Daiwoo?

Re: N is about to feel Detroit's chill

"YooperBoyka" <cjdont@likeno.spam> wrote in message
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<snip>

I agree, Yooper.

> How many "good ol' boys" you think will show up at Charlotte
> if the three makes were Toyota, Honda, and Daiwoo?

...or with only a NASCAR logo on the hood?

--
Tom in Bristol...wondering what style headlight decals they would create?




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Re: N is about to feel Detroit's chill

Tom Duwe wrote:


> ...wondering what style headlight decals they would create?

Little "happy faces"?

Re: N is about to feel Detroit's chill


"YooperBoyka" <cjdont@likeno.spam> wrote in message
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> Tom Duwe wrote:
>
>
>> ...wondering what style headlight decals they would create?
>
> Little "happy faces"?

>>Slanted cats'eyes?

Re: N is about to feel Detroit's chill

"taltos" <paulft1atcomcast,net > wrote in message
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>
> "YooperBoyka" <cjdont@likeno.spam> wrote in message
> news:NZCdnSPckbH1Vf7VnZ2dnUVZ_r7inZ2d@comcast,com ...
>> Tom Duwe wrote:
>>
>>
>>> ...wondering what style headlight decals they would create?
>>
>> Little "happy faces"?
>
> Slanted cats'eyes?

"Blinders" might be more fitting.

--
Tom in Bristol




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