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Nascar Boneheads Have Done it Again
Nascar Boneheads Have Done it Again
Once again, we have a race start so late in the day that rain moves in
before it (the race) can finish. Sometimes the race can get re-started
once the rain is past, sometimes it can’t be. Unfortunately, today’s
race had to be called because of the rain even though the last 25 laps
or so were shaping up to be one of the most exciting finishes in a
long time.
In my opinion, this is all because the boneheads at Nascar made a
decision a few years ago to move the race start times to later in the
afternoon, instead of starting the pre-race at say 12:00 noon and the
green flag at about 1:00 pm as they used to do. They have moved the
pre-race activities to later in the day (and made things even worse by
making the pre-race crap even longer) and now don’t even drop the
green flag until somewhere around 2:15 pm (or even later, depending on
the location of the track).
Apparently this decision was made so that the races would end closer
to evening prime-time and result in more television revenue for both
Nascar and the networks. Even though more races are now in the western
US, the majority still seem to be in the east. For that reason, and
even though later start times might help more western viewers, I
wouldn’t think helping western viewers would be an overriding
consideration, at least not yet.
Any pilot can tell you that the later you go in the day during warm
weather, the more likely that weather thermals can build-up from the
heat and increase the likelihood of thunderstorms. How many times have
you turned on the pre-race ceremonies and heard the announcer say
something like “there seems to be bad weather moving into the area so
we are speeding up the race start times to try and finish (or get half
the race in) before the weather gets here”. Duh…..guys, if you had
just left the start times earlier in the afternoon as you used to do,
you wouldn’t have to be moving the start times back so often to try
and avoid getting caught in bad weather.
Sure….there were rain delays even when races started earlier in the
afternoon and sure….there are times when if you start a race earlier
you can get hit with storms that started earlier in the day and will
have passed through completely by later in the day. There seem to be
far fewer instances of that happening however and the problem (IMHO
anyway) just seems to be greatly compounded by Nascar’s (and the
networks’) knuckleheaded decision to start races later in the
afternoon.
If Nascar had started today's race at the old start time of a few
years ago, it almost certainly would have completed before the rain
arrived.
Once again, we have a race start so late in the day that rain moves in
before it (the race) can finish. Sometimes the race can get re-started
once the rain is past, sometimes it can’t be. Unfortunately, today’s
race had to be called because of the rain even though the last 25 laps
or so were shaping up to be one of the most exciting finishes in a
long time.
In my opinion, this is all because the boneheads at Nascar made a
decision a few years ago to move the race start times to later in the
afternoon, instead of starting the pre-race at say 12:00 noon and the
green flag at about 1:00 pm as they used to do. They have moved the
pre-race activities to later in the day (and made things even worse by
making the pre-race crap even longer) and now don’t even drop the
green flag until somewhere around 2:15 pm (or even later, depending on
the location of the track).
Apparently this decision was made so that the races would end closer
to evening prime-time and result in more television revenue for both
Nascar and the networks. Even though more races are now in the western
US, the majority still seem to be in the east. For that reason, and
even though later start times might help more western viewers, I
wouldn’t think helping western viewers would be an overriding
consideration, at least not yet.
Any pilot can tell you that the later you go in the day during warm
weather, the more likely that weather thermals can build-up from the
heat and increase the likelihood of thunderstorms. How many times have
you turned on the pre-race ceremonies and heard the announcer say
something like “there seems to be bad weather moving into the area so
we are speeding up the race start times to try and finish (or get half
the race in) before the weather gets here”. Duh…..guys, if you had
just left the start times earlier in the afternoon as you used to do,
you wouldn’t have to be moving the start times back so often to try
and avoid getting caught in bad weather.
Sure….there were rain delays even when races started earlier in the
afternoon and sure….there are times when if you start a race earlier
you can get hit with storms that started earlier in the day and will
have passed through completely by later in the day. There seem to be
far fewer instances of that happening however and the problem (IMHO
anyway) just seems to be greatly compounded by Nascar’s (and the
networks’) knuckleheaded decision to start races later in the
afternoon.
If Nascar had started today's race at the old start time of a few
years ago, it almost certainly would have completed before the rain
arrived.
Re: Nascar Boneheads Have Done it Again
"Bruin" <go4itttt@yahoo,com > wrote in message
news:1d50f6ba-303c-43d2-8efc-bfbebe351196@d45g2000hsc.googlegroups,com ...
Once again, we have a race start so late in the day that rain moves in
before it (the race) can finish. Sometimes the race can get re-started
once the rain is past, sometimes it can’t be. Unfortunately, today’s
race had to be called because of the rain even though the last 25 laps
or so were shaping up to be one of the most exciting finishes in a
long time.
In my opinion, this is all because the boneheads at Nascar made a
decision a few years ago to move the race start times to later in the
afternoon, instead of starting the pre-race at say 12:00 noon and the
green flag at about 1:00 pm as they used to do. They have moved the
pre-race activities to later in the day (and made things even worse by
making the pre-race crap even longer) and now don’t even drop the
green flag until somewhere around 2:15 pm (or even later, depending on
the location of the track).
Apparently this decision was made so that the races would end closer
to evening prime-time and result in more television revenue for both
Nascar and the networks. Even though more races are now in the western
US, the majority still seem to be in the east. For that reason, and
even though later start times might help more western viewers, I
wouldn’t think helping western viewers would be an overriding
consideration, at least not yet.
Any pilot can tell you that the later you go in the day during warm
weather, the more likely that weather thermals can build-up from the
heat and increase the likelihood of thunderstorms. How many times have
you turned on the pre-race ceremonies and heard the announcer say
something like “there seems to be bad weather moving into the area so
we are speeding up the race start times to try and finish (or get half
the race in) before the weather gets here”. Duh…..guys, if you had
just left the start times earlier in the afternoon as you used to do,
you wouldn’t have to be moving the start times back so often to try
and avoid getting caught in bad weather.
Sure….there were rain delays even when races started earlier in the
afternoon and sure….there are times when if you start a race earlier
you can get hit with storms that started earlier in the day and will
have passed through completely by later in the day. There seem to be
far fewer instances of that happening however and the problem (IMHO
anyway) just seems to be greatly compounded by Nascar’s (and the
networks’) knuckleheaded decision to start races later in the
afternoon.
If Nascar had started today's race at the old start time of a few
years ago, it almost certainly would have completed before the rain
arrived.
LOL Tell me, do hats fashioned out of aluminum foil work as well as those
fashioned out of tin foil?
"Bruin" <go4itttt@yahoo,com > wrote in message
news:1d50f6ba-303c-43d2-8efc-bfbebe351196@d45g2000hsc.googlegroups,com ...
Once again, we have a race start so late in the day that rain moves in
before it (the race) can finish. Sometimes the race can get re-started
once the rain is past, sometimes it can’t be. Unfortunately, today’s
race had to be called because of the rain even though the last 25 laps
or so were shaping up to be one of the most exciting finishes in a
long time.
In my opinion, this is all because the boneheads at Nascar made a
decision a few years ago to move the race start times to later in the
afternoon, instead of starting the pre-race at say 12:00 noon and the
green flag at about 1:00 pm as they used to do. They have moved the
pre-race activities to later in the day (and made things even worse by
making the pre-race crap even longer) and now don’t even drop the
green flag until somewhere around 2:15 pm (or even later, depending on
the location of the track).
Apparently this decision was made so that the races would end closer
to evening prime-time and result in more television revenue for both
Nascar and the networks. Even though more races are now in the western
US, the majority still seem to be in the east. For that reason, and
even though later start times might help more western viewers, I
wouldn’t think helping western viewers would be an overriding
consideration, at least not yet.
Any pilot can tell you that the later you go in the day during warm
weather, the more likely that weather thermals can build-up from the
heat and increase the likelihood of thunderstorms. How many times have
you turned on the pre-race ceremonies and heard the announcer say
something like “there seems to be bad weather moving into the area so
we are speeding up the race start times to try and finish (or get half
the race in) before the weather gets here”. Duh…..guys, if you had
just left the start times earlier in the afternoon as you used to do,
you wouldn’t have to be moving the start times back so often to try
and avoid getting caught in bad weather.
Sure….there were rain delays even when races started earlier in the
afternoon and sure….there are times when if you start a race earlier
you can get hit with storms that started earlier in the day and will
have passed through completely by later in the day. There seem to be
far fewer instances of that happening however and the problem (IMHO
anyway) just seems to be greatly compounded by Nascar’s (and the
networks’) knuckleheaded decision to start races later in the
afternoon.
If Nascar had started today's race at the old start time of a few
years ago, it almost certainly would have completed before the rain
arrived.
LOL Tell me, do hats fashioned out of aluminum foil work as well as those
fashioned out of tin foil?
Re: Nascar Boneheads Have Done it Again
Amen Brother, Preach It for us Eastern Time Zone folk!
I'd be willing to bet that fewer races were rained out
when starting times were earlier.
--
Crusader
"Bruin" <go4itttt@yahoo,com > wrote in message
news:1d50f6ba-303c-43d2-8efc-bfbebe351196@d45g2000hsc.googlegroups,com ...
Once again, we have a race start so late in the day that rain moves in
before it (the race) can finish. Sometimes the race can get re-started
once the rain is past, sometimes it can’t be. Unfortunately, today’s
race had to be called because of the rain even though the last 25 laps
or so were shaping up to be one of the most exciting finishes in a
long time.
In my opinion, this is all because the boneheads at Nascar made a
decision a few years ago to move the race start times to later in the
afternoon, instead of starting the pre-race at say 12:00 noon and the
green flag at about 1:00 pm as they used to do. They have moved the
pre-race activities to later in the day (and made things even worse by
making the pre-race crap even longer) and now don’t even drop the
green flag until somewhere around 2:15 pm (or even later, depending on
the location of the track).
Apparently this decision was made so that the races would end closer
to evening prime-time and result in more television revenue for both
Nascar and the networks. Even though more races are now in the western
US, the majority still seem to be in the east. For that reason, and
even though later start times might help more western viewers, I
wouldn’t think helping western viewers would be an overriding
consideration, at least not yet.
Any pilot can tell you that the later you go in the day during warm
weather, the more likely that weather thermals can build-up from the
heat and increase the likelihood of thunderstorms. How many times have
you turned on the pre-race ceremonies and heard the announcer say
something like “there seems to be bad weather moving into the area so
we are speeding up the race start times to try and finish (or get half
the race in) before the weather gets here”. Duh…..guys, if you had
just left the start times earlier in the afternoon as you used to do,
you wouldn’t have to be moving the start times back so often to try
and avoid getting caught in bad weather.
Sure….there were rain delays even when races started earlier in the
afternoon and sure….there are times when if you start a race earlier
you can get hit with storms that started earlier in the day and will
have passed through completely by later in the day. There seem to be
far fewer instances of that happening however and the problem (IMHO
anyway) just seems to be greatly compounded by Nascar’s (and the
networks’) knuckleheaded decision to start races later in the
afternoon.
If Nascar had started today's race at the old start time of a few
years ago, it almost certainly would have completed before the rain
arrived.
Amen Brother, Preach It for us Eastern Time Zone folk!
I'd be willing to bet that fewer races were rained out
when starting times were earlier.
--
Crusader
"Bruin" <go4itttt@yahoo,com > wrote in message
news:1d50f6ba-303c-43d2-8efc-bfbebe351196@d45g2000hsc.googlegroups,com ...
Once again, we have a race start so late in the day that rain moves in
before it (the race) can finish. Sometimes the race can get re-started
once the rain is past, sometimes it can’t be. Unfortunately, today’s
race had to be called because of the rain even though the last 25 laps
or so were shaping up to be one of the most exciting finishes in a
long time.
In my opinion, this is all because the boneheads at Nascar made a
decision a few years ago to move the race start times to later in the
afternoon, instead of starting the pre-race at say 12:00 noon and the
green flag at about 1:00 pm as they used to do. They have moved the
pre-race activities to later in the day (and made things even worse by
making the pre-race crap even longer) and now don’t even drop the
green flag until somewhere around 2:15 pm (or even later, depending on
the location of the track).
Apparently this decision was made so that the races would end closer
to evening prime-time and result in more television revenue for both
Nascar and the networks. Even though more races are now in the western
US, the majority still seem to be in the east. For that reason, and
even though later start times might help more western viewers, I
wouldn’t think helping western viewers would be an overriding
consideration, at least not yet.
Any pilot can tell you that the later you go in the day during warm
weather, the more likely that weather thermals can build-up from the
heat and increase the likelihood of thunderstorms. How many times have
you turned on the pre-race ceremonies and heard the announcer say
something like “there seems to be bad weather moving into the area so
we are speeding up the race start times to try and finish (or get half
the race in) before the weather gets here”. Duh…..guys, if you had
just left the start times earlier in the afternoon as you used to do,
you wouldn’t have to be moving the start times back so often to try
and avoid getting caught in bad weather.
Sure….there were rain delays even when races started earlier in the
afternoon and sure….there are times when if you start a race earlier
you can get hit with storms that started earlier in the day and will
have passed through completely by later in the day. There seem to be
far fewer instances of that happening however and the problem (IMHO
anyway) just seems to be greatly compounded by Nascar’s (and the
networks’) knuckleheaded decision to start races later in the
afternoon.
If Nascar had started today's race at the old start time of a few
years ago, it almost certainly would have completed before the rain
arrived.
Re: Nascar Boneheads Have Done it Again
On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 15:40:56 -0400, "Crusader" <cru357@sbcglobal,net >
wrote:
>Amen Brother, Preach It for us Eastern Time Zone folk!
>I'd be willing to bet that fewer races were rained out
>when starting times were earlier.
Yeah, but...You and I both know we have to cater to those particular
West Coasters that like to watch their races from under the stands
while buying their concessions and souvenirs. ;-) lol
Really though, if the later start times are to be equitable to people
across the US's time zones, fine...But the FIA doesn't do this for F1,
and that series has CRAZY fans that get up all hours of the night to
watch their racing here in the US. Even GO OUT TO BARS that open just
for airing the races on Speed... (Kuala Lumpur is my fav late night F1
race)
Here's a clue NASCAR: Time the events to work out best for the track's
LOCAL AUDIENCE. Anyone else that is interested will do what they have
to do to see, hear or record the race.
On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 15:40:56 -0400, "Crusader" <cru357@sbcglobal,net >
wrote:
>Amen Brother, Preach It for us Eastern Time Zone folk!
>I'd be willing to bet that fewer races were rained out
>when starting times were earlier.
Yeah, but...You and I both know we have to cater to those particular
West Coasters that like to watch their races from under the stands
while buying their concessions and souvenirs. ;-) lol
Really though, if the later start times are to be equitable to people
across the US's time zones, fine...But the FIA doesn't do this for F1,
and that series has CRAZY fans that get up all hours of the night to
watch their racing here in the US. Even GO OUT TO BARS that open just
for airing the races on Speed... (Kuala Lumpur is my fav late night F1
race)
Here's a clue NASCAR: Time the events to work out best for the track's
LOCAL AUDIENCE. Anyone else that is interested will do what they have
to do to see, hear or record the race.
Re: Nascar Boneheads Have Done it Again
On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 16:38:38 -0400, SimRacer
<NOsimracer68@yahoo,com SPAM> wrote:
>On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 15:40:56 -0400, "Crusader" <cru357@sbcglobal,net >
>wrote:
>
>>Amen Brother, Preach It for us Eastern Time Zone folk!
>>I'd be willing to bet that fewer races were rained out
>>when starting times were earlier.
>
>Yeah, but...You and I both know we have to cater to those particular
>West Coasters that like to watch their races from under the stands
>while buying their concessions and souvenirs. ;-) lol
>
>Really though, if the later start times are to be equitable to people
>across the US's time zones, fine...But the FIA doesn't do this for F1,
>and that series has CRAZY fans that get up all hours of the night to
>watch their racing here in the US. Even GO OUT TO BARS that open just
>for airing the races on Speed... (Kuala Lumpur is my fav late night F1
>race)
>
>Here's a clue NASCAR: Time the events to work out best for the track's
>LOCAL AUDIENCE. Anyone else that is interested will do what they have
>to do to see, hear or record the race.
Exactly!!! Make it as easy as possible on the people that actually go
to the races. The rest of us can record them if we have to.
On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 16:38:38 -0400, SimRacer
<NOsimracer68@yahoo,com SPAM> wrote:
>On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 15:40:56 -0400, "Crusader" <cru357@sbcglobal,net >
>wrote:
>
>>Amen Brother, Preach It for us Eastern Time Zone folk!
>>I'd be willing to bet that fewer races were rained out
>>when starting times were earlier.
>
>Yeah, but...You and I both know we have to cater to those particular
>West Coasters that like to watch their races from under the stands
>while buying their concessions and souvenirs. ;-) lol
>
>Really though, if the later start times are to be equitable to people
>across the US's time zones, fine...But the FIA doesn't do this for F1,
>and that series has CRAZY fans that get up all hours of the night to
>watch their racing here in the US. Even GO OUT TO BARS that open just
>for airing the races on Speed... (Kuala Lumpur is my fav late night F1
>race)
>
>Here's a clue NASCAR: Time the events to work out best for the track's
>LOCAL AUDIENCE. Anyone else that is interested will do what they have
>to do to see, hear or record the race.
Exactly!!! Make it as easy as possible on the people that actually go
to the races. The rest of us can record them if we have to.
Re: Nascar Boneheads Have Done it Again
"Rick" <PP@2K,com > wrote in message
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> On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 16:38:38 -0400, SimRacer
> <NOsimracer68@yahoo,com SPAM> wrote:
<snip>
>>Here's a clue NASCAR: Time the events to work out best for the track's
>>LOCAL AUDIENCE. Anyone else that is interested will do what they have
>>to do to see, hear or record the race.
>
> Exactly!!! Make it as easy as possible on the people that actually go
> to the races. The rest of us can record them if we have to.
That'd get my vote.
--
Tom in Bristol
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> On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 16:38:38 -0400, SimRacer
> <NOsimracer68@yahoo,com SPAM> wrote:
<snip>
>>Here's a clue NASCAR: Time the events to work out best for the track's
>>LOCAL AUDIENCE. Anyone else that is interested will do what they have
>>to do to see, hear or record the race.
>
> Exactly!!! Make it as easy as possible on the people that actually go
> to the races. The rest of us can record them if we have to.
That'd get my vote.
--
Tom in Bristol
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Re: Nascar Boneheads Have Done it Again
"Tom Duwe" <tomd88SPAMLESS@bvunet,net > wrote in message
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> "Rick" <PP@2K,com > wrote in message
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>> On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 16:38:38 -0400, SimRacer
>> <NOsimracer68@yahoo,com SPAM> wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
>>>Here's a clue NASCAR: Time the events to work out best for the track's
>>>LOCAL AUDIENCE. Anyone else that is interested will do what they have
>>>to do to see, hear or record the race.
>>
>> Exactly!!! Make it as easy as possible on the people that actually go
>> to the races. The rest of us can record them if we have to.
>
> That'd get my vote.
>
> --
> Tom in Bristol
Mulhern has that same clue:
http :// www 2.journalnow,com /content/2008/jul/01/nascar-needs-to-change-its-approach-to-avoid-rain-/?sports-professional
What was learned from Sunday's rain fiasco?
Two things: That every NASCAR track needs full lighting. Loudon has no
lights. And that these 2 p.m. starting times are for the birds.
Putting in lights everywhere and moving starting times back to no later than
1 p.m. local time would give NASCAR officials a lot more leeway on race day
when confronted by rain.
He also nails NASCAR down re the CoT needing help. Open testing the answer?
--
Tom in Bristol...disregarding netiquette once again
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> "Rick" <PP@2K,com > wrote in message
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>> On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 16:38:38 -0400, SimRacer
>> <NOsimracer68@yahoo,com SPAM> wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
>>>Here's a clue NASCAR: Time the events to work out best for the track's
>>>LOCAL AUDIENCE. Anyone else that is interested will do what they have
>>>to do to see, hear or record the race.
>>
>> Exactly!!! Make it as easy as possible on the people that actually go
>> to the races. The rest of us can record them if we have to.
>
> That'd get my vote.
>
> --
> Tom in Bristol
Mulhern has that same clue:
http :// www 2.journalnow,com /content/2008/jul/01/nascar-needs-to-change-its-approach-to-avoid-rain-/?sports-professional
What was learned from Sunday's rain fiasco?
Two things: That every NASCAR track needs full lighting. Loudon has no
lights. And that these 2 p.m. starting times are for the birds.
Putting in lights everywhere and moving starting times back to no later than
1 p.m. local time would give NASCAR officials a lot more leeway on race day
when confronted by rain.
He also nails NASCAR down re the CoT needing help. Open testing the answer?
--
Tom in Bristol...disregarding netiquette once again
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Re: Nascar Boneheads Have Done it Again
"Tom Duwe" <tomd88SPAMLESS@bvunet,net > wrote in message news:1214965980_11084@isp.n...
> "Tom Duwe" <tomd88SPAMLESS@bvunet,net > wrote in message news:1214963795_11081@isp.n...
>> "Rick" <PP@2K,com > wrote in message news:b9kj64lgv82ib3uo3chr87kplpub3cqnil@4ax,com ...
>>> On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 16:38:38 -0400, SimRacer
>>> <NOsimracer68@yahoo,com SPAM> wrote:
>> <snip>
>>>>Here's a clue NASCAR: Time the events to work out best for the track's
>>>>LOCAL AUDIENCE. Anyone else that is interested will do what they have
>>>>to do to see, hear or record the race.
>>>
>>> Exactly!!! Make it as easy as possible on the people that actually go
>>> to the races. The rest of us can record them if we have to.
>>
>> That'd get my vote.
>>
>> --
>> Tom in Bristol
That'd get my vote too! Are u listening to RASNers NA$CAr? ;)
CRU
>
> Mulhern has that same clue:
>
> http :// www 2.journalnow,com /content/2008/jul/01/nascar-needs-to-change-its-approach-to-avoid-rain-/?sports-professional
> What was learned from Sunday's rain fiasco?
>
> Two things: That every NASCAR track needs full lighting. Loudon has no lights. And that
> these 2 p.m. starting times are for the birds.
>
> Putting in lights everywhere and moving starting times back to no later than 1 p.m.
> local time would give NASCAR officials a lot more leeway on race day when confronted by
> rain.
>
> He also nails NASCAR down re the CoT needing help. Open testing the answer?
>
> --
> Tom in Bristol...disregarding netiquette once again
>
>
>
>
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> "Tom Duwe" <tomd88SPAMLESS@bvunet,net > wrote in message news:1214963795_11081@isp.n...
>> "Rick" <PP@2K,com > wrote in message news:b9kj64lgv82ib3uo3chr87kplpub3cqnil@4ax,com ...
>>> On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 16:38:38 -0400, SimRacer
>>> <NOsimracer68@yahoo,com SPAM> wrote:
>> <snip>
>>>>Here's a clue NASCAR: Time the events to work out best for the track's
>>>>LOCAL AUDIENCE. Anyone else that is interested will do what they have
>>>>to do to see, hear or record the race.
>>>
>>> Exactly!!! Make it as easy as possible on the people that actually go
>>> to the races. The rest of us can record them if we have to.
>>
>> That'd get my vote.
>>
>> --
>> Tom in Bristol
That'd get my vote too! Are u listening to RASNers NA$CAr? ;)
CRU
>
> Mulhern has that same clue:
>
> http :// www 2.journalnow,com /content/2008/jul/01/nascar-needs-to-change-its-approach-to-avoid-rain-/?sports-professional
> What was learned from Sunday's rain fiasco?
>
> Two things: That every NASCAR track needs full lighting. Loudon has no lights. And that
> these 2 p.m. starting times are for the birds.
>
> Putting in lights everywhere and moving starting times back to no later than 1 p.m.
> local time would give NASCAR officials a lot more leeway on race day when confronted by
> rain.
>
> He also nails NASCAR down re the CoT needing help. Open testing the answer?
>
> --
> Tom in Bristol...disregarding netiquette once again
>
>
>
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Re: Nascar Boneheads Have Done it Again
Crusader wrote:
> "Tom Duwe" <tomd88SPAMLESS@bvunet,net > wrote in message news:1214965980 11084@isp.n...
>> "Tom Duwe" <tomd88SPAMLESS@bvunet,net > wrote in message news:1214963795 11081@isp.n...
>>> "Rick" <PP@2K,com > wrote in message news:b9kj64lgv82ib3uo3chr87kplpub3cqnil@4ax,com ...
>>>> On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 16:38:38 -0400, SimRacer
>>>> <NOsimracer68@yahoo,com SPAM> wrote:
>>> <snip>
>>>>> Here's a clue NASCAR: Time the events to work out best for the track's
>>>>> LOCAL AUDIENCE. Anyone else that is interested will do what they have
>>>>> to do to see, hear or record the race.
>>>> Exactly!!! Make it as easy as possible on the people that actually go
>>>> to the races. The rest of us can record them if we have to.
>>> That'd get my vote.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Tom in Bristol
>
> That'd get my vote too! Are u listening to RASNers NA$CAr? ;)
> CRU
>
ya think they hear anything other than all that TV money lining their
pockets, lol
Crusader wrote:
> "Tom Duwe" <tomd88SPAMLESS@bvunet,net > wrote in message news:1214965980 11084@isp.n...
>> "Tom Duwe" <tomd88SPAMLESS@bvunet,net > wrote in message news:1214963795 11081@isp.n...
>>> "Rick" <PP@2K,com > wrote in message news:b9kj64lgv82ib3uo3chr87kplpub3cqnil@4ax,com ...
>>>> On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 16:38:38 -0400, SimRacer
>>>> <NOsimracer68@yahoo,com SPAM> wrote:
>>> <snip>
>>>>> Here's a clue NASCAR: Time the events to work out best for the track's
>>>>> LOCAL AUDIENCE. Anyone else that is interested will do what they have
>>>>> to do to see, hear or record the race.
>>>> Exactly!!! Make it as easy as possible on the people that actually go
>>>> to the races. The rest of us can record them if we have to.
>>> That'd get my vote.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Tom in Bristol
>
> That'd get my vote too! Are u listening to RASNers NA$CAr? ;)
> CRU
>
ya think they hear anything other than all that TV money lining their
pockets, lol
Re: Nascar Boneheads Have Done it Again
On Tue, 1 Jul 2008 22:07:07 -0400, "Tom Duwe"
<tomd88SPAMLESS@bvunet,net > wrote:
>"Rick" <PP@2K,com > wrote in message
>news:b9kj64lgv82ib3uo3chr87kplpub3cqnil@4ax,com ...
>> On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 16:38:38 -0400, SimRacer
>> <NOsimracer68@yahoo,com SPAM> wrote:
>
><snip>
>
>>>Here's a clue NASCAR: Time the events to work out best for the track's
>>>LOCAL AUDIENCE. Anyone else that is interested will do what they have
>>>to do to see, hear or record the race.
>>
>> Exactly!!! Make it as easy as possible on the people that actually go
>> to the races. The rest of us can record them if we have to.
>
>That'd get my vote.
Well, at the end of the day, the butts in the seats are paying the
most $$ to see each event. I therefore figger that *they* should be
the ones catered to week in and week out. Yes, I know, what should
happen and what does happen are often 2 different things...certainly
in auto racing.
For us TV viewers...we can find it and watch it on the tube at the
appointed time or simply record it...starting time is of little
consequence to me anymore. I watch very few races "live" today.
On Tue, 1 Jul 2008 22:07:07 -0400, "Tom Duwe"
<tomd88SPAMLESS@bvunet,net > wrote:
>"Rick" <PP@2K,com > wrote in message
>news:b9kj64lgv82ib3uo3chr87kplpub3cqnil@4ax,com ...
>> On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 16:38:38 -0400, SimRacer
>> <NOsimracer68@yahoo,com SPAM> wrote:
>
><snip>
>
>>>Here's a clue NASCAR: Time the events to work out best for the track's
>>>LOCAL AUDIENCE. Anyone else that is interested will do what they have
>>>to do to see, hear or record the race.
>>
>> Exactly!!! Make it as easy as possible on the people that actually go
>> to the races. The rest of us can record them if we have to.
>
>That'd get my vote.
Well, at the end of the day, the butts in the seats are paying the
most $$ to see each event. I therefore figger that *they* should be
the ones catered to week in and week out. Yes, I know, what should
happen and what does happen are often 2 different things...certainly
in auto racing.
For us TV viewers...we can find it and watch it on the tube at the
appointed time or simply record it...starting time is of little
consequence to me anymore. I watch very few races "live" today.
Re: Nascar Boneheads Have Done it Again
When do you think Na$car will be smart enough to be like F1 and have
commercials with screen inside of screen?
Fox and TNT are a joke with these commercials every 7 laps or so.
You are right about F1 fans, they are nuts and will do what it takes.
Before Na$car had there popularity rise America watched open wheel racing it
seems more often. Why did open wheel lose it's appeal? Any ideas?
"SimRacer" <NOsimracer68@yahoo,com SPAM> wrote in message
news:5mgi64dqnftj7oajqbl5v0iee9obh0i1hp@4ax,com ...
> On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 15:40:56 -0400, "Crusader" <cru357@sbcglobal,net >
> wrote:
>
>>Amen Brother, Preach It for us Eastern Time Zone folk!
>>I'd be willing to bet that fewer races were rained out
>>when starting times were earlier.
>
> Yeah, but...You and I both know we have to cater to those particular
> West Coasters that like to watch their races from under the stands
> while buying their concessions and souvenirs. ;-) lol
>
> Really though, if the later start times are to be equitable to people
> across the US's time zones, fine...But the FIA doesn't do this for F1,
> and that series has CRAZY fans that get up all hours of the night to
> watch their racing here in the US. Even GO OUT TO BARS that open just
> for airing the races on Speed... (Kuala Lumpur is my fav late night F1
> race)
>
> Here's a clue NASCAR: Time the events to work out best for the track's
> LOCAL AUDIENCE. Anyone else that is interested will do what they have
> to do to see, hear or record the race.
>
When do you think Na$car will be smart enough to be like F1 and have
commercials with screen inside of screen?
Fox and TNT are a joke with these commercials every 7 laps or so.
You are right about F1 fans, they are nuts and will do what it takes.
Before Na$car had there popularity rise America watched open wheel racing it
seems more often. Why did open wheel lose it's appeal? Any ideas?
"SimRacer" <NOsimracer68@yahoo,com SPAM> wrote in message
news:5mgi64dqnftj7oajqbl5v0iee9obh0i1hp@4ax,com ...
> On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 15:40:56 -0400, "Crusader" <cru357@sbcglobal,net >
> wrote:
>
>>Amen Brother, Preach It for us Eastern Time Zone folk!
>>I'd be willing to bet that fewer races were rained out
>>when starting times were earlier.
>
> Yeah, but...You and I both know we have to cater to those particular
> West Coasters that like to watch their races from under the stands
> while buying their concessions and souvenirs. ;-) lol
>
> Really though, if the later start times are to be equitable to people
> across the US's time zones, fine...But the FIA doesn't do this for F1,
> and that series has CRAZY fans that get up all hours of the night to
> watch their racing here in the US. Even GO OUT TO BARS that open just
> for airing the races on Speed... (Kuala Lumpur is my fav late night F1
> race)
>
> Here's a clue NASCAR: Time the events to work out best for the track's
> LOCAL AUDIENCE. Anyone else that is interested will do what they have
> to do to see, hear or record the race.
>
