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Tony rips on his own fans

Reply from: Alan Jones
Date: 04 Jul 2008, 23:22
Tony rips on his own fans


STEWART'S DEFENSE: Tony Stewart sharply defended crew chief Greg
Zipadelli's decision to pit late in last weekend's race at New
Hampshire, saying "it's easy to be an armchair quarterback."

Stewart dominated the race but wound up 13th when officials stopped it
17 laps early because of rain. Zipadelli called for the late pit stop
-- most of the leaders followed suit -- and Stewart found himself in
the middle of the pack when the rain started a few minutes later. Many
of Stewart's fans were critical this week of Zipadelli's call.

"You see all of this criticism from people and it's people who can't
even control their own lives and they want to sit here and tell us how
to run race teams on the weekend," Stewart said. "I find that highly
amusing that people think that they've got a better solution all the
time than what we do. It's easy after it's all over to say, 'Well you
should've done this. What was he thinking?'

"If they were that smart, they would be crew chiefs, and obviously
they're not that smart listening to the criticism. It just frustrates
you as a driver knowing that you've got a crew chief that's won two
championships and 30-plus races with you that people think they are a
lot smarter than and they're not."

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Reply from: Damon Hynes
Date: 04 Jul 2008, 23:27
Re: Tony rips on his own fans

On Jul 4, 4:22 pm, Alan Jones <ajo...@intrtek,com > wrote:
> STEWART'S DEFENSE: Tony Stewart sharply defended crew chief Greg
> Zipadelli's decision to pit late in last weekend's race at New
> Hampshire, saying "it's easy to be an armchair quarterback."
>
> Stewart dominated the race but wound up 13th when officials stopped it
> 17 laps early because of rain. Zipadelli called for the late pit stop
> -- most of the leaders followed suit -- and Stewart found himself in
> the middle of the pack when the rain started a few minutes later. Many
> of Stewart's fans were critical this week of Zipadelli's call.
>
> "You see all of this criticism from people and it's people who can't
> even control their own lives and they want to sit here and tell us how
> to run race teams on the weekend," Stewart said. "I find that highly
> amusing that people think that they've got a better solution all the
> time than what we do. It's easy after it's all over to say, 'Well you
> should've done this. What was he thinking?'
>
> "If they were that smart, they would be crew chiefs, and obviously
> they're not that smart listening to the criticism. It just frustrates
> you as a driver knowing that you've got a crew chief that's won two
> championships and 30-plus races with you that people think they are a
> lot smarter than and they're not."
>
> http :// sports,es pn.go,com /espn/wire?section=auto&id=3473091
>
>
>
> DISCUSS THIS TOPIC AT...
> - http :// sports.groups.yahoo,com /group/NASCAR-Group

I didn't see where he was ripping on his fans, though.

Reply from: Peaceful Bill
Date: 04 Jul 2008, 23:36
Re: Tony rips on his own fans

Damon Hynes wrote:
> On Jul 4, 4:22 pm, Alan Jones <ajo...@intrtek,com > wrote:
>> STEWART'S DEFENSE: Tony Stewart sharply defended crew chief Greg
>> Zipadelli's decision to pit late in last weekend's race at New
>> Hampshire, saying "it's easy to be an armchair quarterback."
>>
>> Stewart dominated the race but wound up 13th when officials stopped it
>> 17 laps early because of rain. Zipadelli called for the late pit stop
>> -- most of the leaders followed suit -- and Stewart found himself in
>> the middle of the pack when the rain started a few minutes later. Many
>> of Stewart's fans were critical this week of Zipadelli's call.
>>
>> "You see all of this criticism from people and it's people who can't
>> even control their own lives and they want to sit here and tell us how
>> to run race teams on the weekend," Stewart said. "I find that highly
>> amusing that people think that they've got a better solution all the
>> time than what we do. It's easy after it's all over to say, 'Well you
>> should've done this. What was he thinking?'
>>
>> "If they were that smart, they would be crew chiefs, and obviously
>> they're not that smart listening to the criticism. It just frustrates
>> you as a driver knowing that you've got a crew chief that's won two
>> championships and 30-plus races with you that people think they are a
>> lot smarter than and they're not."
>>
>> http :// sports,es pn.go,com /espn/wire?section=auto&id473091
>>
>>
>>
>> DISCUSS THIS TOPIC AT...
>> - http :// sports.groups.yahoo,com /group/NASCAR-Group
>
> I didn't see where he was ripping on his fans, though.

Try:

"If they were that smart, they would be crew chiefs, and obviously
they're not that smart listening to the criticism."

I think its funny.

He should take diplomacy lessons from Bobby Knight.

(But maybe that's part of TS'S charm.)

Reply from: Mike Marlow
Date: 05 Jul 2008, 05:55
Re: Tony rips on his own fans


"Peaceful Bill" <snails.pace@highspeedturtles,net > wrote in message
news:KIwbk.887$zv7.804@flpi143.ffdc.sbc,com ...
> Damon Hynes wrote:

>>
>> I didn't see where he was ripping on his fans, though.
>
> Try:
>
> "If they were that smart, they would be crew chiefs, and obviously they're
> not that smart listening to the criticism."
>
> I think its funny.
>
> He should take diplomacy lessons from Bobby Knight.
>
> (But maybe that's part of TS'S charm.)

You cannot tell the difference between a general comment directed to fans at
large and his own fans? Please show me where he ripped his own fans. Don't
bother - you can't.

--

-Mike-
mmarlowREMOVE@alltel,net



Reply from: Peaceful Bill
Date: 05 Jul 2008, 06:06
Re: Tony rips on his own fans

Mike Marlow wrote:
> "Peaceful Bill" <snails.pace@highspeedturtles,net > wrote in message
> news:KIwbk.887$zv7.804@flpi143.ffdc.sbc,com ...
>> Damon Hynes wrote:
>
>>> I didn't see where he was ripping on his fans, though.
>> Try:
>>
>> "If they were that smart, they would be crew chiefs, and obviously they're
>> not that smart listening to the criticism."
>>
>> I think its funny.
>>
>> He should take diplomacy lessons from Bobby Knight.
>>
>> (But maybe that's part of TS'S charm.)
>
> You cannot tell the difference between a general comment directed to fans at
> large and his own fans? Please show me where he ripped his own fans. Don't
> bother - you can't.
>

Good point. He ripped the Monday morning quarterbacks. That may
include his fans, but its not specific.


Reply from: Carey Akin
Date: 05 Jul 2008, 01:39
Re: Tony rips on his own fans


"Damon Hynes" <damonhynes@gmail,com > wrote in message
news:cfc1dc7d-4512-4dc4-b941-96cdb4fc1e2e@k37g2000hsf.googlegroups,com ...

I didn't see where he was ripping on his fans, though.

That is because you are intelligent and don't have an anti-Stewart bias.

Carey in Manvel



Reply from: DAVe
Date: 05 Jul 2008, 00:16
Re: Tony rips on his own fans

Give me a break!

Tiny was ripping on his critics not his fans .

Sheesh!

Reply from: Mike Marlow
Date: 05 Jul 2008, 05:57
Re: Tony rips on his own fans


"DAVe" <smalleyster@gmail,com > wrote in message
news:9d8f21da-56ec-4acd-af9f-115c5edb62a3@i76g2000hsf.googlegroups,com ...
> Give me a break!
>
> Tiny was ripping on his _critics_ not his _fans_.
>
> Sheesh!

Sit down DAVe. You're doing battle with the illiterate. No way to win that
battle.

--

-Mike-
mmarlowREMOVE@alltel,net



Reply from: Wayne Mann
Date: 05 Jul 2008, 00:37
Re: Tony rips on his own fans

On Fri, 04 Jul 2008 17:22:34 -0400, Alan Jones <ajones@intrtek,com >
wrote:

>
>DISCUSS THIS TOPIC AT...
>- http :// sports.groups.yahoo,net /group/NASCAR-Group


Hey Jalan, STOP running your spam ads her! We are NOT
interested in your immature, childish site that has about 3 people
going to it! Go away!

Reply from: Mike Marlow
Date: 05 Jul 2008, 05:58
Re: Tony rips on his own fans


"Wayne Mann" <tpdl@charter,net > wrote in message
news:1d9t64lls4billp16tub98g0pelpvdbpq0@4ax,com ...
> On Fri, 04 Jul 2008 17:22:34 -0400, Alan Jones <ajones@intrtek,com >
> wrote:
>
>>
>>DISCUSS THIS TOPIC AT...
>>- http :// sports.groups.yahoo,net /group/NASCAR-Group
>
>
> Hey Jalan, STOP running your spam ads her! We are NOT
> interested in your immature, childish site that has about 3 people
> going to it! Go away!

Wayne - stop being so timid. Let yourself go man and tell that imbecile
exactly what you think.

--

-Mike-
mmarlowREMOVE@alltel,net



Reply from: Mike Marlow
Date: 05 Jul 2008, 05:53
Re: Tony rips on his own fans


"Alan Jones" <ajones@intrtek,com > wrote in message
news:fr4t6492c3sq4je4h1e690s2to23vabo52@4ax,com ...

<snip yet another jones re-post of someone else's writing>

No jones, you perpetual bonehead - he ripped any fan who (like you)
attempted to armchair quarterback a decision by a crew chief. Not just his
fans - anyone.


--

-Mike-
mmarlowREMOVE@alltel,net



Reply from: Chad
Date: 05 Jul 2008, 06:21
Re: Tony rips on his own fans

"Mike Marlow" <mmarlowREMOVE@alltel,net > wrote in message
news:8433a$486ef053$6215af99$31713@ALLTEL,net ...
>
> "Alan Jones" <ajones@intrtek,com > wrote in message
> news:fr4t6492c3sq4je4h1e690s2to23vabo52@4ax,com ...
>
> <snip yet another jones re-post of someone else's writing>
>
> No jones, you perpetual bonehead - he ripped any fan who (like you)
> attempted to armchair quarterback a decision by a crew chief. Not just
> his fans - anyone.
>

Wow you guys are very 'precious' over Tony!!

Or maybe someone handed out the rose colored glasses here earlier.

Tony rips on his own fans might be a 'sensational' way to read that
story.... but to try and say he wasn't ripping his own fans makes you all
sound in denial.

Who's fans do you actually reckon would complain "what was he thinking" if
not Stewart's?? DOH

Chad

PS.. I like Tony!




Reply from: Mike Marlow
Date: 05 Jul 2008, 14:46
Re: Tony rips on his own fans


"Chad" <cbstun@safemail,com > wrote in message
news:486ef6bc$0$1025$afc38c87@news.optusnet,com .au...
> "Mike Marlow" <mmarlowREMOVE@alltel,net > wrote in message
> news:8433a$486ef053$6215af99$31713@ALLTEL,net ...
>>
>> "Alan Jones" <ajones@intrtek,com > wrote in message
>> news:fr4t6492c3sq4je4h1e690s2to23vabo52@4ax,com ...
>>
>> <snip yet another jones re-post of someone else's writing>
>>
>> No jones, you perpetual bonehead - he ripped any fan who (like you)
>> attempted to armchair quarterback a decision by a crew chief. Not just
>> his fans - anyone.
>>
>
> Wow you guys are very 'precious' over Tony!!

Nah - most folks are probably more responsive to janal's antics posting
these things than anything to do with Tony.

>
> Or maybe someone handed out the rose colored glasses here earlier.

Rose colored glasses?

>
> Tony rips on his own fans might be a 'sensational' way to read that
> story.... but to try and say he wasn't ripping his own fans makes you all
> sound in denial.
>

You'd have to really stretch anything that has been said in response to the
original post to construe any denial. Everyone has simply said that
Stewart's comments were directed to second guessing armchair quarterbacks
and not at his own fans, as stated in the subject line. How do you get
denial out of that?

> Who's fans do you actually reckon would complain "what was he thinking" if
> not Stewart's?? DOH
>

Lots of people who watch racing without getting all gooey over being
so-and-so's fan. Lots of folks watch racing for the sport of racing and not
so much for the following of a driver. "What was he thinking" might quite
naturally be a question in anybody's mind, as would the opposite - the
understanding of what Zippy was trying to setup. No need to be a fan of
Stewart, or a "hater" to entertain those thoughts.

--

-Mike-
mmarlowREMOVE@alltel,net



Reply from: DAVe
Date: 05 Jul 2008, 15:48
Re: Tony rips on his own fans

On Jul 5, 6:46 am, "Mike Marlow" <mmarlowREM...@alltel,net > wrote:

> Lots of people who watch racing without getting all gooey over being
> so-and-so's fan. Lots of folks watch racing for the sport of racing and not
> so much for the following of a driver.

Ka Ching!

Guilty here. I care much more about the sport than any specific
driver. Yes there are drivers that I care about more than others, but
it's the sport that draws me week after week and year after year.

Reply from: TS02_05champ
Date: 05 Jul 2008, 18:25
Re: Tony rips on his own fans

On Jul 5, 12:21 am, "Chad" <cbs...@safemail,com > wrote:
> "Mike Marlow" <mmarlowREM...@alltel,net > wrote in message
>
> news:8433a$486ef053$6215af99$31713@ALLTEL,net ...
>
>
>
> > "Alan Jones" <ajo...@intrtek,com > wrote in message
> >news:fr4t6492c3sq4je4h1e690s2to23vabo52@4ax,com ...
>
> > <snip yet another jones re-post of someone else's writing>
>
> > No jones, you perpetual bonehead - he ripped any fan who (like you)
> > attempted to armchair quarterback a decision by a crew chief.  Not just
> > his fans - anyone.
>
> Wow you guys are very 'precious' over Tony!!
>
> Or maybe someone handed out the rose colored glasses here earlier.
>
> Tony rips on his own fans might be a 'sensational' way to read that
> story.... but to try and say he wasn't ripping his own fans makes you all
> sound in denial.
>
> Who's fans do you actually reckon would complain "what was he thinking" if
> not Stewart's?? DOH
>
> Chad
>
> PS.. I like Tony!

Yes, TS ripped me and I'm so hurt by it I will never root for him
again, after he wins tonight.




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