Toyota is here to stay

Toyota is here to stay


Toyota through this point of the season has made it clear to the Big 3
there is a new dominant force on the block. I think Toyota has made
it clear they are kicking ass and taking no names.

Re: Toyota is here to stay

Roger Hamilton wrote:
> Toyota through this point of the season has made it clear to the Big 3
> there is a new dominant force on the block. I think Toyota has made
> it clear they are kicking ass and taking no names.

They are kicking ass in the showrooms. Why not the race track too?

Re: Toyota is here to stay


"Roger Hamilton" <noemail@deademail.tyx> wrote in message
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>
> Toyota through this point of the season has made it clear to the Big 3
> there is a new dominant force on the block. I think Toyota has made
> it clear they are kicking ass and taking no names.

Rah, rah, and all that. Does it not seem at all odd to you that last year
Toyota sucked wind and all of a sudden this year Toyota is kicking butt?
After only what - a couple months of off season, they come out of the chute
a whole different racing organization. Meanwhile, Ford, Chevy and (until
Kahne made a couple of good showings...), Dodge pretty much suck wind by
comparison. Granted, a lot can be attributed to things like Kyle Busch's
drive to win, but Toys are doing way too good this year.

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-Mike-
mmarlowREMOVE@alltel,net

Re: Toyota is here to stay

"Mike Marlow" <mmarlowREMOVE@alltel,net > wrote in
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> Rah, rah, and all that. Does it not seem at all odd to you that last
> year Toyota sucked wind and all of a sudden this year Toyota is
> kicking butt?

Aside from the Gibbs cars, which Toyotas are kicking butt?

My guess is that the Gibbs cars would be up front as Toyotas,
Chevies, Fords, Dodges, or Hudsons.

John

Re: Toyota is here to stay

On Jul 4, 11:20 pm, "Mike Marlow" <mmarlowREM...@alltel,net > wrote:
> "Roger Hamilton" <noem...@deademail.tyx> wrote in message
>
> news:4pmt64tm2mncmr8qul59f371se0f2cn2ta@4ax,com ...
>
>
>
> > Toyota through this point of the season has made it clear to the Big 3
> > there is a new dominant force on the block.  I think Toyota has made
> > it clear they are kicking ass and taking no names.
>
> Rah, rah, and all that.  Does it not seem at all odd to you that last year
> Toyota sucked wind and all of a sudden this year Toyota is kicking butt?
> After only what - a couple months of off season, they come out of the chute
> a whole different racing organization.  Meanwhile, Ford, Chevy and (until
> Kahne made a couple of good showings...), Dodge pretty much suck wind by
> comparison.  Granted, a lot can be attributed to things like Kyle Busch's
> drive to win, but Toys are doing way too good this year.
>
> --
>
> -Mike-
> mmarlowREM...@alltel,net

Doesn't seem odd at all. One yr of growing pains, then added JGR
racing, an established organization, with 3 very good drivers to the
mix...sounds like a recipe for success to me.

By comparison, Toyota in the CTS had 3 wins in their first yr in '04,
8 in '05, 11 in '06,10 in '07 and have won 5 out of 12 this yr.

Re: Toyota is here to stay


"TS02_05champ" <tonystewart02_05champ@yahoo,com > wrote in message
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On Jul 4, 11:20 pm, "Mike Marlow" <mmarlowREM...@alltel,net > wrote:


Doesn't seem odd at all. One yr of growing pains, then added JGR
racing, an established organization, with 3 very good drivers to the
mix...sounds like a recipe for success to me.

By comparison, Toyota in the CTS had 3 wins in their first yr in '04,
8 in '05, 11 in '06,10 in '07 and have won 5 out of 12 this yr.

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Here's why that does seem odd to me:

The one year of growing pains was with some marginal teams. More learned
about what was wrong there than what they had done that worked. That's not
a lot of learning. Throw the JGR thing in the mix and it causes even more
questions. While everyone else (to varying degrees) is having trouble
enough figuring out the COT, somehow JGR comes out of the gate with a brand
new car (engine), all figured out and racing strong. After only two months.
Like I said - I do believe some of that owes to the competitiveness of the
drivers at JGR, but it doesn't all settle with that for me.

--

-Mike-
mmarlowREMOVE@alltel,net

Re: Toyota is here to stay

On Jul 5, 9:02 am, "Mike Marlow" <mmarlowREM...@alltel,net > wrote:
> "TS02 05champ" <tonystewart02 05ch...@yahoo,com > wrote in message
>
> news:8c60234b-2bba-4e3a-aa47-3964cb528599@m45g2000hsb.googlegroups,com ...
> On Jul 4, 11:20 pm, "Mike Marlow" <mmarlowREM...@alltel,net > wrote:
>
> Doesn't seem odd at all. One yr of growing pains, then added JGR
> racing, an established organization, with 3 very good drivers to the
> mix...sounds like a recipe for success to me.
>
> By comparison, Toyota in the CTS had 3 wins in their first yr in '04,
> 8 in '05, 11 in '06,10 in '07 and have won 5 out of 12 this yr.
>
> *******************************************************************************
>
> Here's why that does seem odd to me:
>
> The one year of growing pains was with some marginal teams.  More learned
> about what was wrong there than what they had done that worked.  That's not
> a lot of learning.  Throw the JGR thing in the mix and it causes even more
> questions.  While everyone else (to varying degrees) is having trouble
> enough figuring out the COT, somehow JGR comes out of the gate with a brand
> new car (engine), all figured out and racing strong.  After only two months.
> Like I said - I do believe some of that owes to the competitiveness of the
> drivers at JGR, but it doesn't all settle with that for me.
>
> --
>
> -Mike-
> mmarlowREM...@alltel,net

Yeah, but all of the info learned last yr was given to JGR, so between
TRD and JGR racing they were able to figure out some things and I'm
sure that info was shared with the other Toyota teams. It was at least
shared with Brian Vickers...lol

And, it seemed that MWR already had some things figured out at the
fall Dega race when his cars qualified well and didn't blow up during
the race.

Don't forget, JGR was good in the CoT last yr. They had a couple of
fuel pump problems, and TS had an engine problem on one of the road
courses. (that should have been 3 wins) And TS got punked by JG in
another race that TS should have won. So JGR should of had at least 4
more wins in the CoT last yr between TS and DH.

Re: Toyota is here to stay

"TS02_05champ" <tonystewart02_05champ@yahoo,com > wrote in message
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<snip>

Yeah, but all of the info learned last yr was given to JGR, so between
TRD and JGR racing they were able to figure out some things and I'm
sure that info was shared with the other Toyota teams. It was at least
shared with Brian Vickers...lol

And, it seemed that MWR already had some things figured out at the
fall Dega race when his cars qualified well and didn't blow up during
the race.

Don't forget, JGR was good in the CoT last yr. They had a couple of
fuel pump problems, and TS had an engine problem on one of the road
courses. (that should have been 3 wins) And TS got punked by JG in
another race that TS should have won. So JGR should of had at least 4
more wins in the CoT last yr between TS and DH.

My reply to yer post ain't marking your text with the '>' thingies...sure ya
didn't get all contaminated with that Japanese language pack?? LOL

Me-thinks the 'yota's latest engine iteration has got the torgue jusssst
right fer diggin outta the turns and is makin' beau-coo HP.

--
Tom in Bristol




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Re: Toyota is here to stay

Tom Duwe wrote:
> "TS02 05champ" <tonystewart02 05champ@yahoo,com > wrote in message
> news:9494de5a-6523-4bfb-9fee-76029053f74e@t54g2000hsg.googlegroups,com ...
>
> <snip>
>
> Yeah, but all of the info learned last yr was given to JGR, so between
> TRD and JGR racing they were able to figure out some things and I'm
> sure that info was shared with the other Toyota teams. It was at least
> shared with Brian Vickers...lol
>
> And, it seemed that MWR already had some things figured out at the
> fall Dega race when his cars qualified well and didn't blow up during
> the race.
>
> Don't forget, JGR was good in the CoT last yr. They had a couple of
> fuel pump problems, and TS had an engine problem on one of the road
> courses. (that should have been 3 wins) And TS got punked by JG in
> another race that TS should have won. So JGR should of had at least 4
> more wins in the CoT last yr between TS and DH.
>
> My reply to yer post ain't marking your text with the '>' thingies...sure ya
> didn't get all contaminated with that Japanese language pack?? LOL
>
> Me-thinks the 'yota's latest engine iteration has got the torgue jusssst
> right fer diggin outta the turns and is makin' beau-coo HP.
>

Tom, you have that Google filter installed don't you?

This is through Thunderbird, any difference?

Re: Toyota is here to stay

"TS02_05champ" <tonystewart02_05champ@yahoo,com > wrote in message
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<snip>

> Tom, you have that Google filter installed don't you?

Yeppers.

> This is through Thunderbird, any difference?

Yeppers.

--
Tom in Bristol...an appropriate number of '>' thingies.




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Re: Toyota is here to stay

On Jul 4, 7:26 pm, Roger Hamilton <noem...@deademail.tyx> wrote:
> Toyota through this point of the season has made it clear to the Big 3
> there is a new dominant force on the block.  I think Toyota has made
> it clear they are kicking ass and taking no names.

They got the bucks. Honda is coming next.