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Jr Crash Mysterious
Re: Jr Crash Mysterious
Tom Duwe wrote:
>
> Another question when switching from one Hotpass channel to the other, do
> you open 'List' and switch there or just use the 'Prev' channel button? I
> used 'Prev' and wonder if that's why Junior's channel quit recording? I was
> still able to make the switches back and forth live, but later discovered
> only a partial recording for Junior.
>
I have found this action (switching HP channels) will piss the wife off
as much as anything I do TV remote wise... :-) We will always miss some
team communication or track action with the channel switch lag.
--
>G< ©
Tom Duwe wrote:
>
> Another question when switching from one Hotpass channel to the other, do
> you open 'List' and switch there or just use the 'Prev' channel button? I
> used 'Prev' and wonder if that's why Junior's channel quit recording? I was
> still able to make the switches back and forth live, but later discovered
> only a partial recording for Junior.
>
I have found this action (switching HP channels) will piss the wife off
as much as anything I do TV remote wise... :-) We will always miss some
team communication or track action with the channel switch lag.
--
>G< ©
Re: Jr Crash Mysterious
> > So, how you liking that HotPass deal Tom? I dig it. Lotsa info, and by
> > tuning to the "team radio" during commercials, you don't even have to
> > deal with extraneous audio from TNT or whomever.
>
> Yeppers..,it 's met all expectations..I've even switched to network audio a
> couple time to get Kyle's perspective on sumpin and then quickly back before
> Weber opened his yap! LOL Was disappointed they swapped Smoke for Edwards
> yesterday, tho...oh, well.
According to DTV, they choose the 5 drivers each week according to
what the fans say. I told them I wanted JG every week, but did they
listen? No! LOL.
I'm waiting to sign up for it again when the Chase starts. Before
that, I'm not interested enough in other drivers' channels to pay the $
$.
Last year, Hermie Sadler had the JG channel in the pits, along with
the Pemberton guy in the booth. It was pretty good commentary, I
thought.
N.
> > So, how you liking that HotPass deal Tom? I dig it. Lotsa info, and by
> > tuning to the "team radio" during commercials, you don't even have to
> > deal with extraneous audio from TNT or whomever.
>
> Yeppers..,it 's met all expectations..I've even switched to network audio a
> couple time to get Kyle's perspective on sumpin and then quickly back before
> Weber opened his yap! LOL Was disappointed they swapped Smoke for Edwards
> yesterday, tho...oh, well.
According to DTV, they choose the 5 drivers each week according to
what the fans say. I told them I wanted JG every week, but did they
listen? No! LOL.
I'm waiting to sign up for it again when the Chase starts. Before
that, I'm not interested enough in other drivers' channels to pay the $
$.
Last year, Hermie Sadler had the JG channel in the pits, along with
the Pemberton guy in the booth. It was pretty good commentary, I
thought.
N.
Re: Jr Crash Mysterious
"Nancy2" <nancy-dooley@uiowa.edu> wrote in message
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<snip>
> According to DTV, they choose the 5 drivers each week according to
> what the fans say. I told them I wanted JG every week, but did they
> listen? No! LOL.
Just 4 drivers this year, Nancy...seems to me they don't have *nearly* enuff
Blue Oval pilots!
> I'm waiting to sign up for it again when the Chase starts. Before
> that, I'm not interested enough in other drivers' channels to pay the $
> $.
>
Good plan.
> Last year, Hermie Sadler had the JG channel in the pits, along with
> the Pemberton guy in the booth. It was pretty good commentary, I
> thought.
Hermie's cool...met him at the NASCAR speed park thingie in Myrtle Beach
last summer. He was good enuff to spend time yakking with us while Elliott
did the autograph thang.
--
Tom in Bristol
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<snip>
> According to DTV, they choose the 5 drivers each week according to
> what the fans say. I told them I wanted JG every week, but did they
> listen? No! LOL.
Just 4 drivers this year, Nancy...seems to me they don't have *nearly* enuff
Blue Oval pilots!
> I'm waiting to sign up for it again when the Chase starts. Before
> that, I'm not interested enough in other drivers' channels to pay the $
> $.
>
Good plan.
> Last year, Hermie Sadler had the JG channel in the pits, along with
> the Pemberton guy in the booth. It was pretty good commentary, I
> thought.
Hermie's cool...met him at the NASCAR speed park thingie in Myrtle Beach
last summer. He was good enuff to spend time yakking with us while Elliott
did the autograph thang.
--
Tom in Bristol
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Re: Jr Crash Mysterious
On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 20:20:18 -0400, "Tom Duwe"
<tomd88SPAMLESS@bvunet,net > wrote:
>"SimRacer" <NOsimracer68@yahoo,com SPAM> wrote in message
>news:jlfi64hs5l1apcs2kggvnqlljge7ihdc67@4ax,com ...
>
><snip>
>
>> So, how you liking that HotPass deal Tom? I dig it. Lotsa info, and by
>> tuning to the "team radio" during commercials, you don't even have to
>> deal with extraneous audio from TNT or whomever.
>
>Yeppers..,it 's met all expectations..I've even switched to network audio a
>couple time to get Kyle's perspective on sumpin and then quickly back before
>Weber opened his yap! LOL Was disappointed they swapped Smoke for Edwards
>yesterday, tho...oh, well.
>
>I tossed this question at'cha earlier and don't remember seeing the
>answer...
>
>Another question when switching from one Hotpass channel to the other, do
>you open 'List' and switch there or just use the 'Prev' channel button? I
>used 'Prev' and wonder if that's why Junior's channel quit recording? I was
>still able to make the switches back and forth live, but later discovered
>only a partial recording for Junior.
Sorry for missing the original question. My answer: Dunno. I can
record 2 things at once, but must watch at least one of them live if I
want to also watch live TV. I could watch a 3rd source live and record
2 channels at the same time with the old box, but that 3rd source had
to be OTA HD or SD locals. My new box does not have an OTA tuner in
it, just "2" satellite tuners. That said, I can usually setup a
station to be recorded, let's say 796 (Dale Junior HotPass in HD), and
can bounce back and forth using "Previous" between it and say TNT's
national broadcast, and the Junior channel continues to record. No
problems. When I land on the recording channel, I can rewind into the
past to see anything I missed while away on the other channel. The
other, non-recording channel, sometimes will stay in the replay
buffer, sometimes not. I think it is supposed to continue the "live TV
buffer" when I change away to a channel that is actively recording,
but find it to get confused sometimes and restarts the buffer every
time I go back to it. So you got me.
Usually, if I definitely want to be able to pause and back up BOTH
channels, I set the one I know I want kept to be recorded...then
immediately change to the "other" tuner, say for TNT, and from there
bring up the List and start the replay of the other channel I am
recording (you can watch a program in List while it is recording).
Then I can pause, rewind and fast forward it as much as I want, even
forward all the way back up to "live/real time" and that ALWAYS leaves
the replay buffer on the "other" channel alone so I can also back it
up if I miss something. I think it is this way since "technically" I
never change tuners with this method. One stays dedicated to TNT (Fox,
ABC whatever), the other is actively recording the HotPass channel and
when I go to watch it, the primary live/pause/replay buffer on the
primary channel stays intact. FYI: If you are using this method, the
"Previous" button will take you back to the List-Current
Recording-Current Stop/Pause point, just like it would another tuner
or channel.
Whew. Lotsa info I know. If they had just left the firmware in the new
HD box I got (HD20-250) like the way it was in the old Tivo box
(HD10-250), things would be great. Each tuner had its own replay
buffer, and as I said, it also had an OTA HD/SD tuner so I could at
least watch locals as a 3rd option while recording 2 channels off the
other tuners...and could actively switch back and forth between the
discreet sat tuners and both of them maintain a half hour replay
buffer...Not so with the "newer, better and improved" model. :-( It
only has 1 replay buffer (you know, "pause" live TV) but they upped it
to 90 minutes, which is the only upgrade I have discovered from the
old Tivo unit to this newer DTV-branded DVR unit.
>
>> I REALLY like having Phil Parsons as the HP pit reporter for Junior
>> most weeks. The (88 pit) guys talk to Phil as one of their own, so we
>> get some good stuff from his interviews and the racing insight he
>> brings just from being who he is/what he has done.
>
>He and Rick do a great job. I've been surprised how little chatter there is
>on Junior's channel, mostly TJ calling 'door...bumper...clear' and hardly
>ever doing lap times for the leader and Junior.
TJ started out the year more verbose, but Junior has beat him down a
few tiems about talking too much, and they missed a pit stop early in
the year because TJ and Junior were yapping...so they've cooled off on
extraneous chatter of late.
Watch them THIS WEEK tho...TJ goes through several radio battery packs
during plate races he yaps so much - for obvious reasons of course.
On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 20:20:18 -0400, "Tom Duwe"
<tomd88SPAMLESS@bvunet,net > wrote:
>"SimRacer" <NOsimracer68@yahoo,com SPAM> wrote in message
>news:jlfi64hs5l1apcs2kggvnqlljge7ihdc67@4ax,com ...
>
><snip>
>
>> So, how you liking that HotPass deal Tom? I dig it. Lotsa info, and by
>> tuning to the "team radio" during commercials, you don't even have to
>> deal with extraneous audio from TNT or whomever.
>
>Yeppers..,it 's met all expectations..I've even switched to network audio a
>couple time to get Kyle's perspective on sumpin and then quickly back before
>Weber opened his yap! LOL Was disappointed they swapped Smoke for Edwards
>yesterday, tho...oh, well.
>
>I tossed this question at'cha earlier and don't remember seeing the
>answer...
>
>Another question when switching from one Hotpass channel to the other, do
>you open 'List' and switch there or just use the 'Prev' channel button? I
>used 'Prev' and wonder if that's why Junior's channel quit recording? I was
>still able to make the switches back and forth live, but later discovered
>only a partial recording for Junior.
Sorry for missing the original question. My answer: Dunno. I can
record 2 things at once, but must watch at least one of them live if I
want to also watch live TV. I could watch a 3rd source live and record
2 channels at the same time with the old box, but that 3rd source had
to be OTA HD or SD locals. My new box does not have an OTA tuner in
it, just "2" satellite tuners. That said, I can usually setup a
station to be recorded, let's say 796 (Dale Junior HotPass in HD), and
can bounce back and forth using "Previous" between it and say TNT's
national broadcast, and the Junior channel continues to record. No
problems. When I land on the recording channel, I can rewind into the
past to see anything I missed while away on the other channel. The
other, non-recording channel, sometimes will stay in the replay
buffer, sometimes not. I think it is supposed to continue the "live TV
buffer" when I change away to a channel that is actively recording,
but find it to get confused sometimes and restarts the buffer every
time I go back to it. So you got me.
Usually, if I definitely want to be able to pause and back up BOTH
channels, I set the one I know I want kept to be recorded...then
immediately change to the "other" tuner, say for TNT, and from there
bring up the List and start the replay of the other channel I am
recording (you can watch a program in List while it is recording).
Then I can pause, rewind and fast forward it as much as I want, even
forward all the way back up to "live/real time" and that ALWAYS leaves
the replay buffer on the "other" channel alone so I can also back it
up if I miss something. I think it is this way since "technically" I
never change tuners with this method. One stays dedicated to TNT (Fox,
ABC whatever), the other is actively recording the HotPass channel and
when I go to watch it, the primary live/pause/replay buffer on the
primary channel stays intact. FYI: If you are using this method, the
"Previous" button will take you back to the List-Current
Recording-Current Stop/Pause point, just like it would another tuner
or channel.
Whew. Lotsa info I know. If they had just left the firmware in the new
HD box I got (HD20-250) like the way it was in the old Tivo box
(HD10-250), things would be great. Each tuner had its own replay
buffer, and as I said, it also had an OTA HD/SD tuner so I could at
least watch locals as a 3rd option while recording 2 channels off the
other tuners...and could actively switch back and forth between the
discreet sat tuners and both of them maintain a half hour replay
buffer...Not so with the "newer, better and improved" model. :-( It
only has 1 replay buffer (you know, "pause" live TV) but they upped it
to 90 minutes, which is the only upgrade I have discovered from the
old Tivo unit to this newer DTV-branded DVR unit.
>
>> I REALLY like having Phil Parsons as the HP pit reporter for Junior
>> most weeks. The (88 pit) guys talk to Phil as one of their own, so we
>> get some good stuff from his interviews and the racing insight he
>> brings just from being who he is/what he has done.
>
>He and Rick do a great job. I've been surprised how little chatter there is
>on Junior's channel, mostly TJ calling 'door...bumper...clear' and hardly
>ever doing lap times for the leader and Junior.
TJ started out the year more verbose, but Junior has beat him down a
few tiems about talking too much, and they missed a pit stop early in
the year because TJ and Junior were yapping...so they've cooled off on
extraneous chatter of late.
Watch them THIS WEEK tho...TJ goes through several radio battery packs
during plate races he yaps so much - for obvious reasons of course.
Re: Jr Crash Mysterious
"SimRacer" <NOsimracer68@yahoo,com SPAM> wrote in message
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<snip>
> Sorry for missing the original question. My answer: Dunno.
Fair enough.
> Usually, if I definitely want to be able to pause and back up BOTH
> channels, I set the one I know I want kept to be recorded...then
> immediately change to the "other" tuner, say for TNT, and from there
> bring up the List and start the replay of the other channel I am
> recording (you can watch a program in List while it is recording).
That's what I figgered out last weekend, too. Mine (not HD...yet ;-) )
seems to allow me to switch via 'List' back and forth between two Hot Pass
channels being recorded with no losses. When I used the 'Prev' button the
first weekend, that screwed the pooch.
> Whew. Lotsa info I know.
S'all right...nobuddy's reading all this stuff but you and me! LOL
> TJ started out the year more verbose, but Junior has beat him down a
> few tiems about talking too much, and they missed a pit stop early in
> the year because TJ and Junior were yapping...so they've cooled off on
> extraneous chatter of late.
I remembered that episode, too.
>
> Watch them THIS WEEK tho...TJ goes through several radio battery packs
> during plate races he yaps so much - for obvious reasons of course.
I'll prolly go with Junior again (no Fords...grrrrr!) and for the other one,
will record the multi-driver audio one, now that I know they're
all-embedded-all-the-time!
--
Tom in Bristol...thanx fer the sounding board
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<snip>
> Sorry for missing the original question. My answer: Dunno.
Fair enough.
> Usually, if I definitely want to be able to pause and back up BOTH
> channels, I set the one I know I want kept to be recorded...then
> immediately change to the "other" tuner, say for TNT, and from there
> bring up the List and start the replay of the other channel I am
> recording (you can watch a program in List while it is recording).
That's what I figgered out last weekend, too. Mine (not HD...yet ;-) )
seems to allow me to switch via 'List' back and forth between two Hot Pass
channels being recorded with no losses. When I used the 'Prev' button the
first weekend, that screwed the pooch.
> Whew. Lotsa info I know.
S'all right...nobuddy's reading all this stuff but you and me! LOL
> TJ started out the year more verbose, but Junior has beat him down a
> few tiems about talking too much, and they missed a pit stop early in
> the year because TJ and Junior were yapping...so they've cooled off on
> extraneous chatter of late.
I remembered that episode, too.
>
> Watch them THIS WEEK tho...TJ goes through several radio battery packs
> during plate races he yaps so much - for obvious reasons of course.
I'll prolly go with Junior again (no Fords...grrrrr!) and for the other one,
will record the multi-driver audio one, now that I know they're
all-embedded-all-the-time!
--
Tom in Bristol...thanx fer the sounding board
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Re: Jr Crash Mysterious
On Tue, 1 Jul 2008 22:04:05 -0400, "Tom Duwe"
<tomd88SPAMLESS@bvunet,net > wrote:
>"SimRacer" <NOsimracer68@yahoo,com SPAM> wrote in message
>news:k92l64180unhlo5va1qe105l8293r4ekii@4ax,com ...
>
><snip>
>
>> Sorry for missing the original question. My answer: Dunno.
>
>Fair enough.
>
>> Usually, if I definitely want to be able to pause and back up BOTH
>> channels, I set the one I know I want kept to be recorded...then
>> immediately change to the "other" tuner, say for TNT, and from there
>> bring up the List and start the replay of the other channel I am
>> recording (you can watch a program in List while it is recording).
>
>That's what I figgered out last weekend, too. Mine (not HD...yet ;-) )
>seems to allow me to switch via 'List' back and forth between two Hot Pass
>channels being recorded with no losses. When I used the 'Prev' button the
>first weekend, that screwed the pooch.
On their older systems, each tuner had the buffer, and Previous didn't
cause you to lose what had already been buffered...I wish the newer
stuff still worked that way personally.
It took me a little trial and error to "stumble" onto watching a
"recording" of one channel while leaving the tuner on 1 channel all
the time in order keep the replay buffer working on it...a cheesy
workaround to a problem that should'nt exist IMO, but at least there
is one workaround.
>
>> Whew. Lotsa info I know.
>
>S'all right...nobuddy's reading all this stuff but you and me! LOL
>
>> TJ started out the year more verbose, but Junior has beat him down a
>> few tiems about talking too much, and they missed a pit stop early in
>> the year because TJ and Junior were yapping...so they've cooled off on
>> extraneous chatter of late.
>
>I remembered that episode, too.
>>
>> Watch them THIS WEEK tho...TJ goes through several radio battery packs
>> during plate races he yaps so much - for obvious reasons of course.
>
>I'll prolly go with Junior again (no Fords...grrrrr!) and for the other one,
>will record the multi-driver audio one, now that I know they're
>all-embedded-all-the-time!
Yeah, they seem to love the Chevys and Toyotas on the main HP
channels, that's for sure...Matt Kenseth and Carl Edwards have had
their time on there in the past though. Maybe with Matt making such a
good move up the points recently, he'll get another weekend or 2 on HP
hisself.
And yes, I have been able to scroll through all the audio options from
a recording...But I have not tried that on the Super Channel with all
the extra driver audio yet. I have no reason to believe it would
behave any differently tho.
On Tue, 1 Jul 2008 22:04:05 -0400, "Tom Duwe"
<tomd88SPAMLESS@bvunet,net > wrote:
>"SimRacer" <NOsimracer68@yahoo,com SPAM> wrote in message
>news:k92l64180unhlo5va1qe105l8293r4ekii@4ax,com ...
>
><snip>
>
>> Sorry for missing the original question. My answer: Dunno.
>
>Fair enough.
>
>> Usually, if I definitely want to be able to pause and back up BOTH
>> channels, I set the one I know I want kept to be recorded...then
>> immediately change to the "other" tuner, say for TNT, and from there
>> bring up the List and start the replay of the other channel I am
>> recording (you can watch a program in List while it is recording).
>
>That's what I figgered out last weekend, too. Mine (not HD...yet ;-) )
>seems to allow me to switch via 'List' back and forth between two Hot Pass
>channels being recorded with no losses. When I used the 'Prev' button the
>first weekend, that screwed the pooch.
On their older systems, each tuner had the buffer, and Previous didn't
cause you to lose what had already been buffered...I wish the newer
stuff still worked that way personally.
It took me a little trial and error to "stumble" onto watching a
"recording" of one channel while leaving the tuner on 1 channel all
the time in order keep the replay buffer working on it...a cheesy
workaround to a problem that should'nt exist IMO, but at least there
is one workaround.
>
>> Whew. Lotsa info I know.
>
>S'all right...nobuddy's reading all this stuff but you and me! LOL
>
>> TJ started out the year more verbose, but Junior has beat him down a
>> few tiems about talking too much, and they missed a pit stop early in
>> the year because TJ and Junior were yapping...so they've cooled off on
>> extraneous chatter of late.
>
>I remembered that episode, too.
>>
>> Watch them THIS WEEK tho...TJ goes through several radio battery packs
>> during plate races he yaps so much - for obvious reasons of course.
>
>I'll prolly go with Junior again (no Fords...grrrrr!) and for the other one,
>will record the multi-driver audio one, now that I know they're
>all-embedded-all-the-time!
Yeah, they seem to love the Chevys and Toyotas on the main HP
channels, that's for sure...Matt Kenseth and Carl Edwards have had
their time on there in the past though. Maybe with Matt making such a
good move up the points recently, he'll get another weekend or 2 on HP
hisself.
And yes, I have been able to scroll through all the audio options from
a recording...But I have not tried that on the Super Channel with all
the extra driver audio yet. I have no reason to believe it would
behave any differently tho.
Re: Jr Crash Mysterious
On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 08:56:58 -0700, "Blake S" <steamer35@aol,com >
wrote:
>Was listening to Jr's radio on the TNT broadcast. It seems that Jr. made a
>last minute decision to pit, beacause he radioed "OK, I'm coming in!" right
>before he headed to pit lane. Was there some sort of problem with Jr.'s
>car? And why would he pit with about 30 laps to go when no one else was
>pitting? McMurray said that he had no idea Jr was pitting, leading me to
>believe that this was an unscheduled stop.
>
>Does anyone have any more information about this incident? What did Jr.
>have to say about it? I'm guessing there's more to this story than just
>McMurray recklessly crashing into Jr.
>
Not sure what race you were watching, Jr was low and headed into pit
lane commitment line, McFuckup drilled Jr. Jr was already low and in
position to pit. McFuckup's fault all the way.
On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 08:56:58 -0700, "Blake S" <steamer35@aol,com >
wrote:
>Was listening to Jr's radio on the TNT broadcast. It seems that Jr. made a
>last minute decision to pit, beacause he radioed "OK, I'm coming in!" right
>before he headed to pit lane. Was there some sort of problem with Jr.'s
>car? And why would he pit with about 30 laps to go when no one else was
>pitting? McMurray said that he had no idea Jr was pitting, leading me to
>believe that this was an unscheduled stop.
>
>Does anyone have any more information about this incident? What did Jr.
>have to say about it? I'm guessing there's more to this story than just
>McMurray recklessly crashing into Jr.
>
Not sure what race you were watching, Jr was low and headed into pit
lane commitment line, McFuckup drilled Jr. Jr was already low and in
position to pit. McFuckup's fault all the way.
