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Stremme screwed Junior on last lap
Stremme screwed Junior on last lap
Stremme jumped down, leaving Junior out to dry, so he could follow
Stewart to a second place finish. NASCAR is much better when drivers
try to WIN rather than race for second, third, etc.
Stremme jumped down, leaving Junior out to dry, so he could follow
Stewart to a second place finish. NASCAR is much better when drivers
try to WIN rather than race for second, third, etc.
Re: Stremme screwed Junior on last lap
On Apr 27, 6:32 am, D-W <D Du...@hotmail,com > wrote:
> Stremme jumped down, leaving Junior out to dry, so he could follow
> Stewart to a second place finish. NASCAR is much better when drivers
> try to WIN rather than race for second, third, etc.
Junior screwed himself by making his move too early. One has to time
it so that the inertia of the pass is all you need to win. Depending
on someone else to push you is not realistic.
On Apr 27, 6:32 am, D-W <D Du...@hotmail,com > wrote:
> Stremme jumped down, leaving Junior out to dry, so he could follow
> Stewart to a second place finish. NASCAR is much better when drivers
> try to WIN rather than race for second, third, etc.
Junior screwed himself by making his move too early. One has to time
it so that the inertia of the pass is all you need to win. Depending
on someone else to push you is not realistic.
Re: Stremme screwed Junior on last lap
On Sun, 27 Apr 2008 08:23:02 CST, DAVe <smalleyster@gmail,com > wrote:
>On Apr 27, 6:32 am, D-W <D_Du...@hotmail,com > wrote:
>> Stremme jumped down, leaving Junior out to dry, so he could follow
>> Stewart to a second place finish. NASCAR is much better when drivers
>> try to WIN rather than race for second, third, etc.
>
>Junior screwed himself by making his move too early. One has to time
>it so that the inertia of the pass is _all_ you need to win. Depending
>on someone else to push you is not realistic.
No push, no pass 9 times out of 10...
On Sun, 27 Apr 2008 08:23:02 CST, DAVe <smalleyster@gmail,com > wrote:
>On Apr 27, 6:32 am, D-W <D_Du...@hotmail,com > wrote:
>> Stremme jumped down, leaving Junior out to dry, so he could follow
>> Stewart to a second place finish. NASCAR is much better when drivers
>> try to WIN rather than race for second, third, etc.
>
>Junior screwed himself by making his move too early. One has to time
>it so that the inertia of the pass is _all_ you need to win. Depending
>on someone else to push you is not realistic.
No push, no pass 9 times out of 10...
Re: Stremme screwed Junior on last lap
On Sun, 27 Apr 2008 06:32:13 CST, D-W <D_Dubya@hotmail,com > wrote in <l0q714tt417e2l26dnckidn9pd6ceer755@4ax,com >:
>Stremme jumped down, leaving Junior out to dry, so he could follow
>Stewart to a second place finish. NASCAR is much better when drivers
>try to WIN rather than race for second, third, etc.
Choosing the right line is an important skill at the
plate tracks.
Stremme needed to pass both Jr. and TS to get the win.
He had to follow one of them past the other.
If winning is the only thing, then the only person
you can be angry at is TS for beating Jr. None of
the other FOUR people who beat him to the line count.
But if you care about Junior finishing sixth instead
of second, then you can't blame Stremme for trying to
finish second instead of sixth.
There's really only one loser in the race: the guy
bringing up the rear. Everyone else went faster
than somebody and gets some reward for doing so.
Marty
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On Sun, 27 Apr 2008 06:32:13 CST, D-W <D_Dubya@hotmail,com > wrote in <l0q714tt417e2l26dnckidn9pd6ceer755@4ax,com >:
>Stremme jumped down, leaving Junior out to dry, so he could follow
>Stewart to a second place finish. NASCAR is much better when drivers
>try to WIN rather than race for second, third, etc.
Choosing the right line is an important skill at the
plate tracks.
Stremme needed to pass both Jr. and TS to get the win.
He had to follow one of them past the other.
If winning is the only thing, then the only person
you can be angry at is TS for beating Jr. None of
the other FOUR people who beat him to the line count.
But if you care about Junior finishing sixth instead
of second, then you can't blame Stremme for trying to
finish second instead of sixth.
There's really only one loser in the race: the guy
bringing up the rear. Everyone else went faster
than somebody and gets some reward for doing so.
Marty
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Re: Stremme screwed Junior on last lap
On Sun, 27 Apr 2008 08:45:11 CST, "Martin X. Moleski, SJ"
<moleski@canisius.edu> wrote:
>On Sun, 27 Apr 2008 06:32:13 CST, D-W <D_Dubya@hotmail,com > wrote in <l0q714tt417e2l26dnckidn9pd6ceer755@4ax,com >:
>
>>Stremme jumped down, leaving Junior out to dry, so he could follow
>>Stewart to a second place finish. NASCAR is much better when drivers
>>try to WIN rather than race for second, third, etc.
>
>Choosing the right line is an important skill at the
>plate tracks.
>
>Stremme needed to pass both Jr. and TS to get the win.
>
>He had to follow one of them past the other.
>
>If winning is the only thing, then the only person
>you can be angry at is TS for beating Jr. None of
>the other FOUR people who beat him to the line count.
>
>But if you care about Junior finishing sixth instead
>of second, then you can't blame Stremme for trying to
>finish second instead of sixth.
>
>There's really only one loser in the race: the guy
>bringing up the rear. Everyone else went faster
>than somebody and gets some reward for doing so.
I think that Stremme could have followed Junior around Stewart and
then slid past Junior as well. As for where Junior finished, I do not
particularly care. I just want to see good racing, it does not matter
to me WHO is doing the racing.
However, Tony Stewart and Jeff Gordon are both from my neck of the
woods, and I prefer either of them to win. These are just three among
my favorite drivers, and that is because they usually provide good
entertainment.
On Sun, 27 Apr 2008 08:45:11 CST, "Martin X. Moleski, SJ"
<moleski@canisius.edu> wrote:
>On Sun, 27 Apr 2008 06:32:13 CST, D-W <D_Dubya@hotmail,com > wrote in <l0q714tt417e2l26dnckidn9pd6ceer755@4ax,com >:
>
>>Stremme jumped down, leaving Junior out to dry, so he could follow
>>Stewart to a second place finish. NASCAR is much better when drivers
>>try to WIN rather than race for second, third, etc.
>
>Choosing the right line is an important skill at the
>plate tracks.
>
>Stremme needed to pass both Jr. and TS to get the win.
>
>He had to follow one of them past the other.
>
>If winning is the only thing, then the only person
>you can be angry at is TS for beating Jr. None of
>the other FOUR people who beat him to the line count.
>
>But if you care about Junior finishing sixth instead
>of second, then you can't blame Stremme for trying to
>finish second instead of sixth.
>
>There's really only one loser in the race: the guy
>bringing up the rear. Everyone else went faster
>than somebody and gets some reward for doing so.
I think that Stremme could have followed Junior around Stewart and
then slid past Junior as well. As for where Junior finished, I do not
particularly care. I just want to see good racing, it does not matter
to me WHO is doing the racing.
However, Tony Stewart and Jeff Gordon are both from my neck of the
woods, and I prefer either of them to win. These are just three among
my favorite drivers, and that is because they usually provide good
entertainment.
Re: Stremme screwed Junior on last lap
On Mon, 28 Apr 2008 07:10:53 CST, D-W <D_Dubya@hotmail,com > wrote in <kmma14tnlinf8rjar4nik7devbqkrihr98@4ax,com >:
>I think that Stremme could have followed Junior around Stewart and
>then slid past Junior as well.
Perhaps.
We won't know in this lifetime if you're right, so
I'll grant you the freedom to think differently
from me. For now, anyway. :o)
Stremme (apparently) judged othewise. He had to
make his decision in a fraction of a second.
Who knows what he was able to "think" about in
that time?
>As for where Junior finished, I do not
>particularly care. I just want to see good racing, it does not matter
>to me WHO is doing the racing.
OK.
>However, Tony Stewart and Jeff Gordon are both from my neck of the
>woods, and I prefer either of them to win. These are just three among
>my favorite drivers, and that is because they usually provide good
>entertainment.
I like TS a lot. I respect JG, but I don't like him.
I really felt bad when TS hit the wall. I hate
when that happens!
And then getting caught up in the Big One. Finishing
38th when he could have been up front out of the way ...
It doesn't get much worse than that. :o(
Marty
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On Mon, 28 Apr 2008 07:10:53 CST, D-W <D_Dubya@hotmail,com > wrote in <kmma14tnlinf8rjar4nik7devbqkrihr98@4ax,com >:
>I think that Stremme could have followed Junior around Stewart and
>then slid past Junior as well.
Perhaps.
We won't know in this lifetime if you're right, so
I'll grant you the freedom to think differently
from me. For now, anyway. :o)
Stremme (apparently) judged othewise. He had to
make his decision in a fraction of a second.
Who knows what he was able to "think" about in
that time?
>As for where Junior finished, I do not
>particularly care. I just want to see good racing, it does not matter
>to me WHO is doing the racing.
OK.
>However, Tony Stewart and Jeff Gordon are both from my neck of the
>woods, and I prefer either of them to win. These are just three among
>my favorite drivers, and that is because they usually provide good
>entertainment.
I like TS a lot. I respect JG, but I don't like him.
I really felt bad when TS hit the wall. I hate
when that happens!
And then getting caught up in the Big One. Finishing
38th when he could have been up front out of the way ...
It doesn't get much worse than that. :o(
Marty
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Re: Stremme screwed Junior on last lap
On Mon, 28 Apr 2008 08:40:42 CST, "Martin X. Moleski, SJ"
<moleski@canisius.edu> wrote:
>On Mon, 28 Apr 2008 07:10:53 CST, D-W <D_Dubya@hotmail,com > wrote in <kmma14tnlinf8rjar4nik7devbqkrihr98@4ax,com >:
>
>>I think that Stremme could have followed Junior around Stewart and
>>then slid past Junior as well.
>
>Perhaps.
>
>We won't know in this lifetime if you're right, so
>I'll grant you the freedom to think differently
>from me. For now, anyway. :o)
True.
>Stremme (apparently) judged othewise. He had to
>make his decision in a fraction of a second.
>Who knows what he was able to "think" about in
>that time?
Granted. Not a lot. And could be his spotter told him to follow
Stewart.
>>As for where Junior finished, I do not
>>particularly care. I just want to see good racing, it does not matter
>>to me WHO is doing the racing.
>
>OK.
>
>>However, Tony Stewart and Jeff Gordon are both from my neck of the
>>woods, and I prefer either of them to win. These are just three among
>>my favorite drivers, and that is because they usually provide good
>>entertainment.
>
>I like TS a lot. I respect JG, but I don't like him.
>
>I really felt bad when TS hit the wall. I hate
>when that happens!
>
>And then getting caught up in the Big One. Finishing
>38th when he could have been up front out of the way ...
>It doesn't get much worse than that. :o(
Agreed.
On Mon, 28 Apr 2008 08:40:42 CST, "Martin X. Moleski, SJ"
<moleski@canisius.edu> wrote:
>On Mon, 28 Apr 2008 07:10:53 CST, D-W <D_Dubya@hotmail,com > wrote in <kmma14tnlinf8rjar4nik7devbqkrihr98@4ax,com >:
>
>>I think that Stremme could have followed Junior around Stewart and
>>then slid past Junior as well.
>
>Perhaps.
>
>We won't know in this lifetime if you're right, so
>I'll grant you the freedom to think differently
>from me. For now, anyway. :o)
True.
>Stremme (apparently) judged othewise. He had to
>make his decision in a fraction of a second.
>Who knows what he was able to "think" about in
>that time?
Granted. Not a lot. And could be his spotter told him to follow
Stewart.
>>As for where Junior finished, I do not
>>particularly care. I just want to see good racing, it does not matter
>>to me WHO is doing the racing.
>
>OK.
>
>>However, Tony Stewart and Jeff Gordon are both from my neck of the
>>woods, and I prefer either of them to win. These are just three among
>>my favorite drivers, and that is because they usually provide good
>>entertainment.
>
>I like TS a lot. I respect JG, but I don't like him.
>
>I really felt bad when TS hit the wall. I hate
>when that happens!
>
>And then getting caught up in the Big One. Finishing
>38th when he could have been up front out of the way ...
>It doesn't get much worse than that. :o(
Agreed.
