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Showdown/All-Star Races
Do RPG's for the Showdown/All-Star races count or are they just fer funsies?
Mike
Do RPG's for the Showdown/All-Star races count or are they just fer funsies?
Mike
Re: Showdown/All-Star Races
On Mon, 12 May 2008 09:10:54 CST, "Mike Simmons" <mikesim@yhti,net > wrote in <XISdnUUDpvwD17XVnZ2dnUVZ_gCdnZ2d@posted.yhti>:
>Do RPG's for the Showdown/All-Star races count or are they just fer funsies?
All RPGs are just for fun.
If you want the respect of the regular players,
you will not mix All-Star points with your
normal tally.
You may, of course, boast as much as you dare
about your picking prowess if, by chance, you
get one right about any aspect of the season. :o)
I'm feelin' good about my prediction that Toyota
would win at least six Cup races this year.
I fell flat on my face last year when I predicted
that they'd win three. Toyota has three now
(2 for KyBu, 1 for Hamlin).
The Toyota execs have to be pleased with landing
Joe Gibbs Racing.
Marty
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On Mon, 12 May 2008 09:10:54 CST, "Mike Simmons" <mikesim@yhti,net > wrote in <XISdnUUDpvwD17XVnZ2dnUVZ_gCdnZ2d@posted.yhti>:
>Do RPG's for the Showdown/All-Star races count or are they just fer funsies?
All RPGs are just for fun.
If you want the respect of the regular players,
you will not mix All-Star points with your
normal tally.
You may, of course, boast as much as you dare
about your picking prowess if, by chance, you
get one right about any aspect of the season. :o)
I'm feelin' good about my prediction that Toyota
would win at least six Cup races this year.
I fell flat on my face last year when I predicted
that they'd win three. Toyota has three now
(2 for KyBu, 1 for Hamlin).
The Toyota execs have to be pleased with landing
Joe Gibbs Racing.
Marty
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Re: Showdown/All-Star Races
"Martin X. Moleski, SJ" <moleski@canisius.edu> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 12 May 2008 09:10:54 CST, "Mike Simmons" <mikesim@yhti,net > wrote
> in <XISdnUUDpvwD17XVnZ2dnUVZ_gCdnZ2d@posted.yhti>:
>
>>Do RPG's for the Showdown/All-Star races count or are they just fer
>>funsies?
>
> All RPGs are just for fun.
<gasp!> just fer fun??!! What about that million bucks I heard about!!??
Heck, I'd settle fer a lousy decoder ring...
>
> If you want the respect of the regular players,
> you will not mix All-Star points with your
> normal tally.
I shan't
>
> You may, of course, boast as much as you dare
> about your picking prowess if, by chance, you
> get one right about any aspect of the season. :o)
With my luck and picking prowess, ain't never gnna happen.. <sigh>
>
> I'm feelin' good about my prediction that Toyota
> would win at least six Cup races this year.
> I fell flat on my face last year when I predicted
> that they'd win three. Toyota has three now
> (2 for KyBu, 1 for Hamlin).
>
> The Toyota execs have to be pleased with landing
> Joe Gibbs Racing.
Yes, it would be interesting to see if you could run parallel seasons with
and without JGR to see what Toy would have done in '08 without JGR... guess
we'll never know, but I have a hunch that JGR is the primary reason for
Toy's success this year. Even the non JGR Toy teams are much improved... a
rising tide lifts all boats...
Mike
"Martin X. Moleski, SJ" <moleski@canisius.edu> wrote in message
news:q5-dnUf0Et7UxLXVnZ2dnUVZ_tLinZ2d@supernews,com ...
> On Mon, 12 May 2008 09:10:54 CST, "Mike Simmons" <mikesim@yhti,net > wrote
> in <XISdnUUDpvwD17XVnZ2dnUVZ_gCdnZ2d@posted.yhti>:
>
>>Do RPG's for the Showdown/All-Star races count or are they just fer
>>funsies?
>
> All RPGs are just for fun.
<gasp!> just fer fun??!! What about that million bucks I heard about!!??
Heck, I'd settle fer a lousy decoder ring...
>
> If you want the respect of the regular players,
> you will not mix All-Star points with your
> normal tally.
I shan't
>
> You may, of course, boast as much as you dare
> about your picking prowess if, by chance, you
> get one right about any aspect of the season. :o)
With my luck and picking prowess, ain't never gnna happen.. <sigh>
>
> I'm feelin' good about my prediction that Toyota
> would win at least six Cup races this year.
> I fell flat on my face last year when I predicted
> that they'd win three. Toyota has three now
> (2 for KyBu, 1 for Hamlin).
>
> The Toyota execs have to be pleased with landing
> Joe Gibbs Racing.
Yes, it would be interesting to see if you could run parallel seasons with
and without JGR to see what Toy would have done in '08 without JGR... guess
we'll never know, but I have a hunch that JGR is the primary reason for
Toy's success this year. Even the non JGR Toy teams are much improved... a
rising tide lifts all boats...
Mike
Re: Showdown/All-Star Races
On Mon, 12 May 2008 12:10:54 CST, "Mike Simmons" <mikesim@yhti,net > wrote in <5LmdneaNVbYL67XVnZ2dnUVZ_uCdnZ2d@yhti>:
>> The Toyota execs have to be pleased with landing
>> Joe Gibbs Racing.
>Yes, it would be interesting to see if you could run parallel seasons with
>and without JGR to see what Toy would have done in '08 without JGR... guess
>we'll never know, but I have a hunch that JGR is the primary reason for
>Toy's success this year. Even the non JGR Toy teams are much improved... a
>rising tide lifts all boats...
We won't know in this lifetime how much JGR has shared
with other ToyTeams, but I expect there has to be
some trickle-down effect.
I like Michael Waltrip, as a general rule, and
enjoy his schtick on TV. He and his teams have
to be given due credit, too, for learning from
mistakes and providing Toyota engineers with
lots of data to study. Would JGR be where they
are this year without last year's data?
It's another question to be answered in Some
Other Lifetime.
Marty
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On Mon, 12 May 2008 12:10:54 CST, "Mike Simmons" <mikesim@yhti,net > wrote in <5LmdneaNVbYL67XVnZ2dnUVZ_uCdnZ2d@yhti>:
>> The Toyota execs have to be pleased with landing
>> Joe Gibbs Racing.
>Yes, it would be interesting to see if you could run parallel seasons with
>and without JGR to see what Toy would have done in '08 without JGR... guess
>we'll never know, but I have a hunch that JGR is the primary reason for
>Toy's success this year. Even the non JGR Toy teams are much improved... a
>rising tide lifts all boats...
We won't know in this lifetime how much JGR has shared
with other ToyTeams, but I expect there has to be
some trickle-down effect.
I like Michael Waltrip, as a general rule, and
enjoy his schtick on TV. He and his teams have
to be given due credit, too, for learning from
mistakes and providing Toyota engineers with
lots of data to study. Would JGR be where they
are this year without last year's data?
It's another question to be answered in Some
Other Lifetime.
Marty
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Re: Showdown/All-Star Races
"Mike Simmons" <mikesim@yhti,net > wrote in
news:5LmdneaNVbYL67XVnZ2dnUVZ_uCdnZ2d@yhti:
> Heck, I'd settle fer a lousy decoder ring...
I beleive those are stored in the box on the top of Moral Victory
Mountain.
John
"Mike Simmons" <mikesim@yhti,net > wrote in
news:5LmdneaNVbYL67XVnZ2dnUVZ_uCdnZ2d@yhti:
> Heck, I'd settle fer a lousy decoder ring...
I beleive those are stored in the box on the top of Moral Victory
Mountain.
John
Re: Showdown/All-Star Races
On Mon, 12 May 2008 18:00:53 CST, John McCoy <igopogo@ix,net com,com > wrote in <Xns9A9CC1AFC7FAEpogosupernews@216.168.3.30>:
>"Mike Simmons" <mikesim@yhti,net > wrote in
>news:5LmdneaNVbYL67XVnZ2dnUVZ_uCdnZ2d@yhti:
>> Heck, I'd settle fer a lousy decoder ring...
>I beleive those are stored in the box on the top of Moral Victory
>Mountain.
Among many other treasures accessible only to
those willing to ascend the heights.
Marty
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On Mon, 12 May 2008 18:00:53 CST, John McCoy <igopogo@ix,net com,com > wrote in <Xns9A9CC1AFC7FAEpogosupernews@216.168.3.30>:
>"Mike Simmons" <mikesim@yhti,net > wrote in
>news:5LmdneaNVbYL67XVnZ2dnUVZ_uCdnZ2d@yhti:
>> Heck, I'd settle fer a lousy decoder ring...
>I beleive those are stored in the box on the top of Moral Victory
>Mountain.
Among many other treasures accessible only to
those willing to ascend the heights.
Marty
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Re: Showdown/All-Star Races
"Martin X. Moleski, SJ" <moleski@canisius.edu> wrote in message
news:9NCdnU6VS_LKTrXVnZ2dnUVZ_r7inZ2d@supernews,com ...
> On Mon, 12 May 2008 18:00:53 CST, John McCoy <igopogo@ix,net com,com > wrote
> in <Xns9A9CC1AFC7FAEpogosupernews@216.168.3.30>:
>
>>"Mike Simmons" <mikesim@yhti,net > wrote in
>>news:5LmdneaNVbYL67XVnZ2dnUVZ_uCdnZ2d@yhti:
>
>>> Heck, I'd settle fer a lousy decoder ring...
>
>>I beleive those are stored in the box on the top of Moral Victory
>>Mountain.
>
> Among many other treasures accessible only to
> those willing to ascend the heights.
Yes, I'm willing to make the ascent, and even showed up one weekend with
cold brewski's and pork rinds but alas I was spurned by the elders.... :^(
"Not humble enuf", said they... well haruumpf!
Mike
"Martin X. Moleski, SJ" <moleski@canisius.edu> wrote in message
news:9NCdnU6VS_LKTrXVnZ2dnUVZ_r7inZ2d@supernews,com ...
> On Mon, 12 May 2008 18:00:53 CST, John McCoy <igopogo@ix,net com,com > wrote
> in <Xns9A9CC1AFC7FAEpogosupernews@216.168.3.30>:
>
>>"Mike Simmons" <mikesim@yhti,net > wrote in
>>news:5LmdneaNVbYL67XVnZ2dnUVZ_uCdnZ2d@yhti:
>
>>> Heck, I'd settle fer a lousy decoder ring...
>
>>I beleive those are stored in the box on the top of Moral Victory
>>Mountain.
>
> Among many other treasures accessible only to
> those willing to ascend the heights.
Yes, I'm willing to make the ascent, and even showed up one weekend with
cold brewski's and pork rinds but alas I was spurned by the elders.... :^(
"Not humble enuf", said they... well haruumpf!
Mike
Re: Showdown/All-Star Races
On Mon, 12 May 2008 19:21:43 CST, "Mike Simmons" <mikesim@yhti,net > wrote in <VoOdnSfqQaGUQrXVnZ2dnUVZ_r6rnZ2d@yhti>:
>Yes, I'm willing to make the ascent, and even showed up one weekend with
>cold brewski's and pork rinds but alas I was spurned by the elders.... :^(
>"Not humble enuf", said they... well haruumpf!
Someone has to maintain standards. :-P
Marty
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On Mon, 12 May 2008 19:21:43 CST, "Mike Simmons" <mikesim@yhti,net > wrote in <VoOdnSfqQaGUQrXVnZ2dnUVZ_r6rnZ2d@yhti>:
>Yes, I'm willing to make the ascent, and even showed up one weekend with
>cold brewski's and pork rinds but alas I was spurned by the elders.... :^(
>"Not humble enuf", said they... well haruumpf!
Someone has to maintain standards. :-P
Marty
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Re: Showdown/All-Star Races
On May 12, 12:40 pm, "Martin X. Moleski, SJ" <mole...@canisius.edu>
wrote:
> On Mon, 12 May 2008 09:10:54 CST, "Mike Simmons" <mike...@yhti,net > wrote in <XISdnUUDpvwD17XVnZ2dnUVZ gCdn...@posted.yhti>:
>
> >Do RPG's for the Showdown/All-Star races count or are they just fer funsies?
>
> All RPGs are just for fun.
>
> If you want the respect of the regular players,
> you will not mix All-Star points with your
> normal tally.
>
> You may, of course, boast as much as you dare
> about your picking prowess if, by chance, you
> get one right about any aspect of the season. :o)
>
> I'm feelin' good about my prediction that Toyota
> would win at least six Cup races this year.
> I fell flat on my face last year when I predicted
> that they'd win three. Toyota has three now
> (2 for KyBu, 1 for Hamlin).
>
> The Toyota execs have to be pleased with landing
> Joe Gibbs Racing.
>
> Marty
One little nitpick. Toyota's tally is actually at four right now, with
three wins for Kyle: Atlanta, Talladega, and of course Darlington.
I rather suspect you're both right about the impact of JGR on Toyota's
efforts this year though. Without them, the wins column would be
considerably thinner by season's end. I do think that Team Red Bull is
fielding a pretty competent driver in the form of Brian Vickers,
although whether he had the ability or the equipment to keep that car
at or near the front of the field for the entire duration of a race is
up for debate. He's in 17th with one 9th and one 5th place finish on
the year, so he's not doing *poorly, just not exceptionally well.
Personally, I'm a bit more curious at the moment as to just how much
longer MWR is going to be able to keep NAPA on board. Michael's
frustration is starting to show through a little more than I think he
and NAPA would prefer, and I have to wonder just how much value is
lost when you're lovable field filler is becoming, well, less
lovable.
-Steven
On May 12, 12:40 pm, "Martin X. Moleski, SJ" <mole...@canisius.edu>
wrote:
> On Mon, 12 May 2008 09:10:54 CST, "Mike Simmons" <mike...@yhti,net > wrote in <XISdnUUDpvwD17XVnZ2dnUVZ gCdn...@posted.yhti>:
>
> >Do RPG's for the Showdown/All-Star races count or are they just fer funsies?
>
> All RPGs are just for fun.
>
> If you want the respect of the regular players,
> you will not mix All-Star points with your
> normal tally.
>
> You may, of course, boast as much as you dare
> about your picking prowess if, by chance, you
> get one right about any aspect of the season. :o)
>
> I'm feelin' good about my prediction that Toyota
> would win at least six Cup races this year.
> I fell flat on my face last year when I predicted
> that they'd win three. Toyota has three now
> (2 for KyBu, 1 for Hamlin).
>
> The Toyota execs have to be pleased with landing
> Joe Gibbs Racing.
>
> Marty
One little nitpick. Toyota's tally is actually at four right now, with
three wins for Kyle: Atlanta, Talladega, and of course Darlington.
I rather suspect you're both right about the impact of JGR on Toyota's
efforts this year though. Without them, the wins column would be
considerably thinner by season's end. I do think that Team Red Bull is
fielding a pretty competent driver in the form of Brian Vickers,
although whether he had the ability or the equipment to keep that car
at or near the front of the field for the entire duration of a race is
up for debate. He's in 17th with one 9th and one 5th place finish on
the year, so he's not doing *poorly, just not exceptionally well.
Personally, I'm a bit more curious at the moment as to just how much
longer MWR is going to be able to keep NAPA on board. Michael's
frustration is starting to show through a little more than I think he
and NAPA would prefer, and I have to wonder just how much value is
lost when you're lovable field filler is becoming, well, less
lovable.
-Steven
Re: Showdown/All-Star Races
On Mon, 12 May 2008 21:14:59 CST, Seven <sevensks@chek,com > wrote in
<6e60dc2d-4536-4dcf-90c7-08c126e95c16@d45g2000hsc.googlegroups,com >:
>One little nitpick. Toyota's tally is actually at four right now, with
>three wins for Kyle: Atlanta, Talladega, and of course Darlington.
This is why the Benevolent Dictator got rid of the old
-1 system in RPG. Math is not his strong suit. :o(
I also wonder whether nascar,com hadn't posted last weekend's result
when I tried to count? Won't be able to answer that question
in this lifetime ...
>Personally, I'm a bit more curious at the moment as to just how much
>longer MWR is going to be able to keep NAPA on board. Michael's
>frustration is starting to show through a little more than I think he
>and NAPA would prefer, and I have to wonder just how much value is
>lost when you're lovable field filler is becoming, well, less
>lovable.
It's got to be pretty draining for MW.
I think we were watching a kind of breakdown
when he let loose and ramrodded the poor fellow
who hit him.
I hope he keeps NAPA and regains his sense of
good humor and perspective.
More power to him--and to all the owners and
drivers.
Marty
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On Mon, 12 May 2008 21:14:59 CST, Seven <sevensks@chek,com > wrote in
<6e60dc2d-4536-4dcf-90c7-08c126e95c16@d45g2000hsc.googlegroups,com >:
>One little nitpick. Toyota's tally is actually at four right now, with
>three wins for Kyle: Atlanta, Talladega, and of course Darlington.
This is why the Benevolent Dictator got rid of the old
-1 system in RPG. Math is not his strong suit. :o(
I also wonder whether nascar,com hadn't posted last weekend's result
when I tried to count? Won't be able to answer that question
in this lifetime ...
>Personally, I'm a bit more curious at the moment as to just how much
>longer MWR is going to be able to keep NAPA on board. Michael's
>frustration is starting to show through a little more than I think he
>and NAPA would prefer, and I have to wonder just how much value is
>lost when you're lovable field filler is becoming, well, less
>lovable.
It's got to be pretty draining for MW.
I think we were watching a kind of breakdown
when he let loose and ramrodded the poor fellow
who hit him.
I hope he keeps NAPA and regains his sense of
good humor and perspective.
More power to him--and to all the owners and
drivers.
Marty
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Re: Showdown/All-Star Races
Seven <sevensks@chek,com > wrote in
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> Personally, I'm a bit more curious at the moment as to just how much
> longer MWR is going to be able to keep NAPA on board. Michael's
> frustration is starting to show through a little more than I think he
> and NAPA would prefer, and I have to wonder just how much value is
> lost when you're lovable field filler is becoming, well, less
> lovable.
My guess is there's not too much risk there. NAPA must have known
when they left DEI that they weren't going to be with a front
runner, and I imagine they factored that into the price. Waltrip
still makes good commercials for them, so they're probably happy.
I'd wonder more about Aaron's. They've been with Waltrip for a
long time, but lately you don't see him in the commercials. And
I don't think financially they're really in the league of companies
that can afford a Cup sponsorship.
And by all accounts UPS is gone next year. Between that and Aarons,
MWR might really be in a bit of a bind next year.
There is also an odd (and probably false) rumor over at the lake
that Toyota is intending to drop MWR at the end of 2009.
John
Seven <sevensks@chek,com > wrote in
news:6e60dc2d-4536-4dcf-90c7-08c126e95c16@d45g2000hsc.googlegroups,com :
> Personally, I'm a bit more curious at the moment as to just how much
> longer MWR is going to be able to keep NAPA on board. Michael's
> frustration is starting to show through a little more than I think he
> and NAPA would prefer, and I have to wonder just how much value is
> lost when you're lovable field filler is becoming, well, less
> lovable.
My guess is there's not too much risk there. NAPA must have known
when they left DEI that they weren't going to be with a front
runner, and I imagine they factored that into the price. Waltrip
still makes good commercials for them, so they're probably happy.
I'd wonder more about Aaron's. They've been with Waltrip for a
long time, but lately you don't see him in the commercials. And
I don't think financially they're really in the league of companies
that can afford a Cup sponsorship.
And by all accounts UPS is gone next year. Between that and Aarons,
MWR might really be in a bit of a bind next year.
There is also an odd (and probably false) rumor over at the lake
that Toyota is intending to drop MWR at the end of 2009.
John
