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No comments about NASCAR and Indy strategy
No comments about NASCAR and Indy strategy
I am surprised no one has said anything about NASCAR putting a stop to the
strategy of Mark Martin's team (and others??) pitting one lap prior to each
known caution.
After the first few stops, NASCAR decided to close pit road for about two
laps prior to the caution. The advantage that was gained, through strategy,
was thrown out the door.
To a certain extent, I can understand them doing it, though. Image all 43
cars coming in to pit a lap ahead of the mandated cautions.
--
Larry
http :// larrysnatureshots,com
I am surprised no one has said anything about NASCAR putting a stop to the
strategy of Mark Martin's team (and others??) pitting one lap prior to each
known caution.
After the first few stops, NASCAR decided to close pit road for about two
laps prior to the caution. The advantage that was gained, through strategy,
was thrown out the door.
To a certain extent, I can understand them doing it, though. Image all 43
cars coming in to pit a lap ahead of the mandated cautions.
--
Larry
http :// larrysnatureshots,com
Re: No comments about NASCAR and Indy strategy
On Wed, 30 Jul 2008 11:29:48 CST, "RetiredFF" <lbatter@bogfeet,net > wrote in <jpidnVw3yrgcGA3VnZ2dnUVZ_h3inZ2d@earthlink,com >:
>I am surprised no one has said anything about NASCAR putting a stop to the
>strategy of Mark Martin's team (and others??) pitting one lap prior to each
>known caution.
I was away on retreat last week and completely missed the
whole show. It took me a while to catch up on some of the
gory details.
>After the first few stops, NASCAR decided to close pit road for about two
>laps prior to the caution. The advantage that was gained, through strategy,
>was thrown out the door.
>To a certain extent, I can understand them doing it, though. Image all 43
>cars coming in to pit a lap ahead of the mandated cautions.
I have no idea what they were thinking (they must have had their
tinfoil hats on). Seems to me like allowing people to pit when
they wanted to would be more fun. But they didn't ask my opinion
and I doubt that they care what I think. ;o)
Marty
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On Wed, 30 Jul 2008 11:29:48 CST, "RetiredFF" <lbatter@bogfeet,net > wrote in <jpidnVw3yrgcGA3VnZ2dnUVZ_h3inZ2d@earthlink,com >:
>I am surprised no one has said anything about NASCAR putting a stop to the
>strategy of Mark Martin's team (and others??) pitting one lap prior to each
>known caution.
I was away on retreat last week and completely missed the
whole show. It took me a while to catch up on some of the
gory details.
>After the first few stops, NASCAR decided to close pit road for about two
>laps prior to the caution. The advantage that was gained, through strategy,
>was thrown out the door.
>To a certain extent, I can understand them doing it, though. Image all 43
>cars coming in to pit a lap ahead of the mandated cautions.
I have no idea what they were thinking (they must have had their
tinfoil hats on). Seems to me like allowing people to pit when
they wanted to would be more fun. But they didn't ask my opinion
and I doubt that they care what I think. ;o)
Marty
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Re: No comments about NASCAR and Indy strategy
"RetiredFF" <lbatter@bogfeet,net > wrote in
news:jpidnVw3yrgcGA3VnZ2dnUVZ_h3inZ2d@earthlink,com :
> I am surprised no one has said anything about NASCAR putting a stop to
> the strategy of Mark Martin's team (and others??) pitting one lap
> prior to each known caution.
LOL. With everything else there is to talk about, it's not too
surprising that one's kinda low on the priority list.
> After the first few stops, NASCAR decided to close pit road for about
> two laps prior to the caution. The advantage that was gained, through
> strategy, was thrown out the door.
>
> To a certain extent, I can understand them doing it, though. Image all
> 43 cars coming in to pit a lap ahead of the mandated cautions.
Yes, I agree. The race was enough of a disaster already, without
everyone trying to get a jump on the caution. Basically what they
were saying was "pit on schedule, unless you break something".
John
"RetiredFF" <lbatter@bogfeet,net > wrote in
news:jpidnVw3yrgcGA3VnZ2dnUVZ_h3inZ2d@earthlink,com :
> I am surprised no one has said anything about NASCAR putting a stop to
> the strategy of Mark Martin's team (and others??) pitting one lap
> prior to each known caution.
LOL. With everything else there is to talk about, it's not too
surprising that one's kinda low on the priority list.
> After the first few stops, NASCAR decided to close pit road for about
> two laps prior to the caution. The advantage that was gained, through
> strategy, was thrown out the door.
>
> To a certain extent, I can understand them doing it, though. Image all
> 43 cars coming in to pit a lap ahead of the mandated cautions.
Yes, I agree. The race was enough of a disaster already, without
everyone trying to get a jump on the caution. Basically what they
were saying was "pit on schedule, unless you break something".
John
Re: No comments about NASCAR and Indy strategy
"John McCoy" <igopogo@ix,net com,com > wrote in message
news:Xns9AEBC75356D4Apogosupernews@216.168.3.30...
> "RetiredFF" <lbatter@bogfeet,net > wrote in
> news:jpidnVw3yrgcGA3VnZ2dnUVZ_h3inZ2d@earthlink,com :
>
>> I am surprised no one has said anything about NASCAR putting a stop to
>> the strategy of Mark Martin's team (and others??) pitting one lap
>> prior to each known caution.
>
> LOL. With everything else there is to talk about, it's not too
> surprising that one's kinda low on the priority list.
>
>> After the first few stops, NASCAR decided to close pit road for about
>> two laps prior to the caution. The advantage that was gained, through
>> strategy, was thrown out the door.
>>
>> To a certain extent, I can understand them doing it, though. Image all
>> 43 cars coming in to pit a lap ahead of the mandated cautions.
>
> Yes, I agree. The race was enough of a disaster already, without
> everyone trying to get a jump on the caution. Basically what they
> were saying was "pit on schedule, unless you break something".
>
> John
>
Except that they weren't mandatory cautions.
Dave
"John McCoy" <igopogo@ix,net com,com > wrote in message
news:Xns9AEBC75356D4Apogosupernews@216.168.3.30...
> "RetiredFF" <lbatter@bogfeet,net > wrote in
> news:jpidnVw3yrgcGA3VnZ2dnUVZ_h3inZ2d@earthlink,com :
>
>> I am surprised no one has said anything about NASCAR putting a stop to
>> the strategy of Mark Martin's team (and others??) pitting one lap
>> prior to each known caution.
>
> LOL. With everything else there is to talk about, it's not too
> surprising that one's kinda low on the priority list.
>
>> After the first few stops, NASCAR decided to close pit road for about
>> two laps prior to the caution. The advantage that was gained, through
>> strategy, was thrown out the door.
>>
>> To a certain extent, I can understand them doing it, though. Image all
>> 43 cars coming in to pit a lap ahead of the mandated cautions.
>
> Yes, I agree. The race was enough of a disaster already, without
> everyone trying to get a jump on the caution. Basically what they
> were saying was "pit on schedule, unless you break something".
>
> John
>
Except that they weren't mandatory cautions.
Dave
Re: No comments about NASCAR and Indy strategy
"Hairy" <hairy@hotmail,com > wrote in message
news:6fi0tjFbji3rU1@mid.individual,net ...
>
> "John McCoy" <igopogo@ix,net com,com > wrote in message
> news:Xns9AEBC75356D4Apogosupernews@216.168.3.30...
>> "RetiredFF" <lbatter@bogfeet,net > wrote in
>> news:jpidnVw3yrgcGA3VnZ2dnUVZ_h3inZ2d@earthlink,com :
>>
>>> I am surprised no one has said anything about NASCAR putting a stop to
>>> the strategy of Mark Martin's team (and others??) pitting one lap
>>> prior to each known caution.
>>
>> LOL. With everything else there is to talk about, it's not too
>> surprising that one's kinda low on the priority list.
>>
>>> After the first few stops, NASCAR decided to close pit road for about
>>> two laps prior to the caution. The advantage that was gained, through
>>> strategy, was thrown out the door.
>>>
>>> To a certain extent, I can understand them doing it, though. Image all
>>> 43 cars coming in to pit a lap ahead of the mandated cautions.
>>
>> Yes, I agree. The race was enough of a disaster already, without
>> everyone trying to get a jump on the caution. Basically what they
>> were saying was "pit on schedule, unless you break something".
>>
>> John
>>
>
> Except that they weren't mandatory cautions.
>
> Dave
>
Of course they were - all cautions are mandatory.
--
-Mike-
mmarlowREMOVE@alltel,net
"Hairy" <hairy@hotmail,com > wrote in message
news:6fi0tjFbji3rU1@mid.individual,net ...
>
> "John McCoy" <igopogo@ix,net com,com > wrote in message
> news:Xns9AEBC75356D4Apogosupernews@216.168.3.30...
>> "RetiredFF" <lbatter@bogfeet,net > wrote in
>> news:jpidnVw3yrgcGA3VnZ2dnUVZ_h3inZ2d@earthlink,com :
>>
>>> I am surprised no one has said anything about NASCAR putting a stop to
>>> the strategy of Mark Martin's team (and others??) pitting one lap
>>> prior to each known caution.
>>
>> LOL. With everything else there is to talk about, it's not too
>> surprising that one's kinda low on the priority list.
>>
>>> After the first few stops, NASCAR decided to close pit road for about
>>> two laps prior to the caution. The advantage that was gained, through
>>> strategy, was thrown out the door.
>>>
>>> To a certain extent, I can understand them doing it, though. Image all
>>> 43 cars coming in to pit a lap ahead of the mandated cautions.
>>
>> Yes, I agree. The race was enough of a disaster already, without
>> everyone trying to get a jump on the caution. Basically what they
>> were saying was "pit on schedule, unless you break something".
>>
>> John
>>
>
> Except that they weren't mandatory cautions.
>
> Dave
>
Of course they were - all cautions are mandatory.
--
-Mike-
mmarlowREMOVE@alltel,net
Re: No comments about NASCAR and Indy strategy
Run that by me again? Sounds like you're saying the "competition cautions"
at Indy were optional in some way?
--pig
On 8/2/08 12:32 AM, in article 6fi0tjFbji3rU1@mid.individual,net , "Hairy"
<hairy@hotmail,com > wrote:
> Except that they weren't mandatory cautions.
Run that by me again? Sounds like you're saying the "competition cautions"
at Indy were optional in some way?
--pig
On 8/2/08 12:32 AM, in article 6fi0tjFbji3rU1@mid.individual,net , "Hairy"
<hairy@hotmail,com > wrote:
> Except that they weren't mandatory cautions.
Re: No comments about NASCAR and Indy strategy
Megan Zurawicz <listpig@sbcglobal,net > wrote in
news:C4B96104.539F%listpig@sbcglobal,net :
> Run that by me again? Sounds like you're saying the "competition
> cautions" at Indy were optional in some way?
They were. Teams did not have to come in, and those which had
pitted before the caution were allowed to, and did, stay out.
NASCAR did start closing the pits 2 or 3 laps before the caution,
once teams had figured it out, to stop them taking advantage of
the situation.
John
Megan Zurawicz <listpig@sbcglobal,net > wrote in
news:C4B96104.539F%listpig@sbcglobal,net :
> Run that by me again? Sounds like you're saying the "competition
> cautions" at Indy were optional in some way?
They were. Teams did not have to come in, and those which had
pitted before the caution were allowed to, and did, stay out.
NASCAR did start closing the pits 2 or 3 laps before the caution,
once teams had figured it out, to stop them taking advantage of
the situation.
John
Re: No comments about NASCAR and Indy strategy
"John McCoy" <igopogo@ix,net com,com > wrote in message
news:Xns9AEE6D68E2387pogosupernews@216.168.3.30...
> Megan Zurawicz <listpig@sbcglobal,net > wrote in
> news:C4B96104.539F%listpig@sbcglobal,net :
>
>> Run that by me again? Sounds like you're saying the "competition
>> cautions" at Indy were optional in some way?
>
> They were. Teams did not have to come in, and those which had
> pitted before the caution were allowed to, and did, stay out.
>
> NASCAR did start closing the pits 2 or 3 laps before the caution,
> once teams had figured it out, to stop them taking advantage of
> the situation.
>
I think we were all playing on the phrase mandatory caution. The cautions
were indeed mandatory, but the pit stops weren't.
--
-Mike-
mmarlowREMOVE@alltel,net
"John McCoy" <igopogo@ix,net com,com > wrote in message
news:Xns9AEE6D68E2387pogosupernews@216.168.3.30...
> Megan Zurawicz <listpig@sbcglobal,net > wrote in
> news:C4B96104.539F%listpig@sbcglobal,net :
>
>> Run that by me again? Sounds like you're saying the "competition
>> cautions" at Indy were optional in some way?
>
> They were. Teams did not have to come in, and those which had
> pitted before the caution were allowed to, and did, stay out.
>
> NASCAR did start closing the pits 2 or 3 laps before the caution,
> once teams had figured it out, to stop them taking advantage of
> the situation.
>
I think we were all playing on the phrase mandatory caution. The cautions
were indeed mandatory, but the pit stops weren't.
--
-Mike-
mmarlowREMOVE@alltel,net
Re: No comments about NASCAR and Indy strategy
Yeah, I think that's where I got lost.....the whole idea of an "optional
caution". Didn't make it past that to whether pit stop was what was meant
rather than caution.....mind was too busy boggling at the whole image of
"Ok, we're going to have an optional caution: your choice, drive 80 mph or
180 mph. Whichever one tickles your fancy."
--pig
On 8/2/08 1:29 PM, in article c2f24$48947ffe$452896a2$29516@ALLTEL,net ,
"Mike Marlow" <mmarlowREMOVE@alltel,net > wrote:
> I think we were all playing on the phrase mandatory caution. The cautions
> were indeed mandatory, but the pit stops weren't.
Yeah, I think that's where I got lost.....the whole idea of an "optional
caution". Didn't make it past that to whether pit stop was what was meant
rather than caution.....mind was too busy boggling at the whole image of
"Ok, we're going to have an optional caution: your choice, drive 80 mph or
180 mph. Whichever one tickles your fancy."
--pig
On 8/2/08 1:29 PM, in article c2f24$48947ffe$452896a2$29516@ALLTEL,net ,
"Mike Marlow" <mmarlowREMOVE@alltel,net > wrote:
> I think we were all playing on the phrase mandatory caution. The cautions
> were indeed mandatory, but the pit stops weren't.
Re: No comments about NASCAR and Indy strategy
"Megan Zurawicz" <listpig@sbcglobal,net > wrote in message
news:C4BA2525.53D8%listpig@sbcglobal,net ...
> Yeah, I think that's where I got lost.....the whole idea of an "optional
> caution". Didn't make it past that to whether pit stop was what was meant
> rather than caution.....mind was too busy boggling at the whole image of
> "Ok, we're going to have an optional caution: your choice, drive 80 mph or
> 180 mph. Whichever one tickles your fancy."
>
> --pig
<sigh>... I haven't had my fancy tickled in years... but that's another
story...
;^)
Mike
>
>
> On 8/2/08 1:29 PM, in article c2f24$48947ffe$452896a2$29516@ALLTEL,net ,
> "Mike Marlow" <mmarlowREMOVE@alltel,net > wrote:
>
>> I think we were all playing on the phrase mandatory caution. The
>> cautions
>> were indeed mandatory, but the pit stops weren't.
>
"Megan Zurawicz" <listpig@sbcglobal,net > wrote in message
news:C4BA2525.53D8%listpig@sbcglobal,net ...
> Yeah, I think that's where I got lost.....the whole idea of an "optional
> caution". Didn't make it past that to whether pit stop was what was meant
> rather than caution.....mind was too busy boggling at the whole image of
> "Ok, we're going to have an optional caution: your choice, drive 80 mph or
> 180 mph. Whichever one tickles your fancy."
>
> --pig
<sigh>... I haven't had my fancy tickled in years... but that's another
story...
;^)
Mike
>
>
> On 8/2/08 1:29 PM, in article c2f24$48947ffe$452896a2$29516@ALLTEL,net ,
> "Mike Marlow" <mmarlowREMOVE@alltel,net > wrote:
>
>> I think we were all playing on the phrase mandatory caution. The
>> cautions
>> were indeed mandatory, but the pit stops weren't.
>
Re: No comments about NASCAR and Indy strategy
"Megan Zurawicz" <listpig@sbcglobal,net > wrote in message
news:C4B96104.539F%listpig@sbcglobal,net ...
> Run that by me again? Sounds like you're saying the "competition
> cautions"
> at Indy were optional in some way?
>
> --pig
>
My bad. The cautions weren't optional, but pitting was.
Dave
>
> On 8/2/08 12:32 AM, in article 6fi0tjFbji3rU1@mid.individual,net , "Hairy"
> <hairy@hotmail,com > wrote:
>
>> Except that they weren't mandatory cautions.
>
"Megan Zurawicz" <listpig@sbcglobal,net > wrote in message
news:C4B96104.539F%listpig@sbcglobal,net ...
> Run that by me again? Sounds like you're saying the "competition
> cautions"
> at Indy were optional in some way?
>
> --pig
>
My bad. The cautions weren't optional, but pitting was.
Dave
>
> On 8/2/08 12:32 AM, in article 6fi0tjFbji3rU1@mid.individual,net , "Hairy"
> <hairy@hotmail,com > wrote:
>
>> Except that they weren't mandatory cautions.
>
