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Hey Nascar tells them to Fix it.
Re: Hey Nascar tells them to Fix it.
armpit wrote: Chad Knaus's dad ran a fiberglass monoleaf spring in the right
rear of his late model for a season or two back in the 80's.<<<<
A fiberglass monoleaf would cut down the unsprung weight 10-15 pounds, which
is a lot.
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JerryD(upstateNY)
armpit wrote: Chad Knaus's dad ran a fiberglass monoleaf spring in the right
rear of his late model for a season or two back in the 80's.<<<<
A fiberglass monoleaf would cut down the unsprung weight 10-15 pounds, which
is a lot.
--
JerryD(upstateNY)
Re: Hey Nascar tells them to Fix it.
"JerryD(upstateNY)" <jerryd@rochester.rr,com > wrote in message
news:483ace25$0$30199$4c368faf@roadrunner,com ...
> armpit wrote: Chad Knaus's dad ran a fiberglass monoleaf spring in the
> right rear of his late model for a season or two back in the 80's.<<<<
>
>
> A fiberglass monoleaf would cut down the unsprung weight 10-15 pounds,
> which is a lot.
>
I think they were experimenting with getting rear steer caused by the spring
flex/twist under acceleration & braking.
"JerryD(upstateNY)" <jerryd@rochester.rr,com > wrote in message
news:483ace25$0$30199$4c368faf@roadrunner,com ...
> armpit wrote: Chad Knaus's dad ran a fiberglass monoleaf spring in the
> right rear of his late model for a season or two back in the 80's.<<<<
>
>
> A fiberglass monoleaf would cut down the unsprung weight 10-15 pounds,
> which is a lot.
>
I think they were experimenting with getting rear steer caused by the spring
flex/twist under acceleration & braking.
Re: Hey Nascar tells them to Fix it.
"Mike Simmons" <mikesim@yhti,net > wrote in
news:2cidnc3jw_NGCKvVnZ2dnUVZ_o3inZ2d@posted.yhti:
> Im actually somewhat annoyed that NASCAR is stepping in to regulate
> this. Anymore, there are so darned few things that teams can do to try
> to gain an edge it seems that NASCAR is overtly attempting to stifle
> innovation. AFAIK, the "crabbyness" does not affect the safety of the
> vehicle, so why not let 'em experiment?
I think it's reasonable for NASCAR to make the rule now, altho
I wish they'd let them have a little more than 1 degree.
The problem with the extreme adjustment that a few cars, like
Hornish, were doing is it puts too much angle between the axle
and the drive plate, and eventually if they kept going down that
path, they'd start seeing a problem with broken axles. Already
the Penske cars were making special axles with rounded ends to
allow the amount of angle they were using.
This is very analogous to when Leo Jackson & Harry Gant discovered
rear end camber back in the 90's. First it was good, then people
started overdoing it, axles started breaking, and eventually
NASCAR made a rule that limited everyone to a "safe" value where
the axles weren't at risk. The only real difference here is that
they made the rule before people started breaking axles.
(n.b. I'm guessing they picked 1 degree as the limit because
that's, as far as I know, the allowed limit for camber, and
that's known to work OK with the axles)
John
"Mike Simmons" <mikesim@yhti,net > wrote in
news:2cidnc3jw_NGCKvVnZ2dnUVZ_o3inZ2d@posted.yhti:
> Im actually somewhat annoyed that NASCAR is stepping in to regulate
> this. Anymore, there are so darned few things that teams can do to try
> to gain an edge it seems that NASCAR is overtly attempting to stifle
> innovation. AFAIK, the "crabbyness" does not affect the safety of the
> vehicle, so why not let 'em experiment?
I think it's reasonable for NASCAR to make the rule now, altho
I wish they'd let them have a little more than 1 degree.
The problem with the extreme adjustment that a few cars, like
Hornish, were doing is it puts too much angle between the axle
and the drive plate, and eventually if they kept going down that
path, they'd start seeing a problem with broken axles. Already
the Penske cars were making special axles with rounded ends to
allow the amount of angle they were using.
This is very analogous to when Leo Jackson & Harry Gant discovered
rear end camber back in the 90's. First it was good, then people
started overdoing it, axles started breaking, and eventually
NASCAR made a rule that limited everyone to a "safe" value where
the axles weren't at risk. The only real difference here is that
they made the rule before people started breaking axles.
(n.b. I'm guessing they picked 1 degree as the limit because
that's, as far as I know, the allowed limit for camber, and
that's known to work OK with the axles)
John
